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Lowest turnout in UK general election since universal suffrage, report shows
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By *deepdive OP Man 19 weeks ago
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Just over half of the British adults voted at the 2024 general election, making it the lowest turnout by share of population since universal suffrage, according to a report.
The Institute for Public Policy Research thinktank found that just 52% of UK adults cast their ballots on 4 July, which is the lowest since the vote was extended to all adults over 21 in 1928.
Taken from the Guardian 12th July, 2024
With just over half of British adults voting, people will find it hard to complain about Labour being in power.
Some say that not voting is a vote and perhaps it is but; the current system does not account for this and only counts the votes that have been made.
We have a party in power that won in an election in which only 52% of British adults partook.
This is the choice of the people.
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The IPPR are, to put it politely, estimating that figure. They are including their estimate of the number of people that are eligible to vote but are not registered.
It might be better to wait till the official figures come out, and we can see how they compare to all the previous official figures. |
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"Just over half of the British adults voted at the 2024 general election, making it the lowest turnout by share of population since universal suffrage, according to a report.
The Institute for Public Policy Research thinktank found that just 52% of UK adults cast their ballots on 4 July, which is the lowest since the vote was extended to all adults over 21 in 1928.
Taken from the Guardian 12th July, 2024
With just over half of British adults voting, people will find it hard to complain about Labour being in power.
Some say that not voting is a vote and perhaps it is but; the current system does not account for this and only counts the votes that have been made.
We have a party in power that won in an election in which only 52% of British adults partook.
This is the choice of the people.
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I see no point in a two party system, so I will not support it.
When politics serves the people then I will vote, but my vote is not for serving business or the self serving.
People not voting is getting higher and higher and for me it is the sleeze and corruption and labour will be no different imo. |
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"We should remove the voter ID requirements. More public money wasted to make government less representative "
agreed .... although it was almost worth it for the comedy value to see voter ID and the constituancy boundry gerrymandering completely backfire for the conservatives  |
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"We should remove the voter ID requirements. More public money wasted to make government less representative
Or introduce compulsory voting.  "
What would the introduction of compulsory voting achieve?
People who don’t wish to support any of the candidates in their constituency will simply leave the voting paper blank, fold it up and put it in the box.
It just wastes the time of the person voting and the people counting them. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple 19 weeks ago
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From the research:
"Impact of compulsory voting on political engagement it is clear from the available evidence that compulsory voting both increases aggregate turnout and reduces the variation in turnout rates among different groups."
Political engagement - imagine that? |
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"From the research:
"Impact of compulsory voting on political engagement it is clear from the available evidence that compulsory voting both increases aggregate turnout and reduces the variation in turnout rates among different groups."
Political engagement - imagine that?"
Of course the turnout will be higher, it’s compulsory ffs.
Just because people are forced to turnout, that does not equate to Political engagement.
If you count not filling in your voting paper and putting it in the box blank as Political engagement then it doesn’t say much for politics. |
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We have a party in power that won in an election in which only 52% of British adults partook.
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Think it’s nearer to 60%
ons says 46,560,452 we’re eligible in 2019, allowing for discrepancies 2024 won’t be vastly different
Main parties Labour 9.8m, Tory 6.7m, reform 4.2m, libdem 3.7m, greens 3m, add snp plaid etc looks nearer 29m total votes, about 61/62% turnout
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We have a party in power that won in an election in which only 52% of British adults partook.
Think it’s nearer to 60%
ons says 46,560,452 we’re eligible in 2019, allowing for discrepancies 2024 won’t be vastly different
Main parties Labour 9.8m, Tory 6.7m, reform 4.2m, libdem 3.7m, greens 3m, add snp plaid etc looks nearer 29m total votes, about 61/62% turnout
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I've seen 50pc quoted when it's a percentage of those who could vote including those who aren't on the register. |
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By *deepdive OP Man 19 weeks ago
France / Birmingham |
"Tories or Tory lite? Not really surprising it was a low turnout."
Surely, the only way to change that is to vote for a party that will change the system?
Not voting doesn't mean anything other than people (and politicians)trying to guess what that means as per on here.
The current system doesn't work as well as it should. It doesn't represent everyone but, to change that, a party which will bring change is required.
To not vote simply allows the status quo to continue (assuming people think that Tory or Labour are so similar).
You can only change the system by using the system to do so. |
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"Tories or Tory lite? Not really surprising it was a low turnout."
How the country is?
Blair held power by being more centre than left and parties like reform will never hold power in my opinion..
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"Tories or Tory lite? Not really surprising it was a low turnout.
Surely, the only way to change that is to vote for a party that will change the system?
Not voting doesn't mean anything other than people (and politicians)trying to guess what that means as per on here.
The current system doesn't work as well as it should. It doesn't represent everyone but, to change that, a party which will bring change is required.
To not vote simply allows the status quo to continue (assuming people think that Tory or Labour are so similar).
You can only change the system by using the system to do so."
No political party offering any meaningful change will be allowed anywhere near power. Look what they did to destroy Corbyn, and he just wanted to implement a few policies to benefit British people. Boom, he's gone. |
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By *deepdive OP Man 19 weeks ago
France / Birmingham |
Imagine had those who decided to abstain, all voted for the Greens or Reform or the Raving Lunatic party.
Had they all cast their vote for the same party, they would have won.
Don't tell me you can't change politics, if there is a will there is a way.
Not voting is a gift to the main parties.
Little point in complaining afterwards. |
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"Imagine had those who decided to abstain, all voted for the Greens or Reform or the Raving Lunatic party.
Had they all cast their vote for the same party, they would have won.
Don't tell me you can't change politics, if there is a will there is a way.
Not voting is a gift to the main parties.
Little point in complaining afterwards."
I agree it would be good. But never going to happen, never going to be allowed to happen. |
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I didn’t vote because there was nobody standing in my constituency that I wanted to vote for. I’m sure that many others felt the same. It’s not ideal, but it is my right to decide whether or not to vote. If they make it compulsory, and there is nobody I want to support, I will simply spoil my ballot paper. So what would be the point? Too many inconveniences imho. |
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By *deepdive OP Man 19 weeks ago
France / Birmingham |
"I didn’t vote because there was nobody standing in my constituency that I wanted to vote for. I’m sure that many others felt the same. It’s not ideal, but it is my right to decide whether or not to vote. If they make it compulsory, and there is nobody I want to support, I will simply spoil my ballot paper. So what would be the point? Too many inconveniences imho."
And a tactical vote to keep someone out? |
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"I didn’t vote because there was nobody standing in my constituency that I wanted to vote for. I’m sure that many others felt the same. It’s not ideal, but it is my right to decide whether or not to vote. If they make it compulsory, and there is nobody I want to support, I will simply spoil my ballot paper. So what would be the point? Too many inconveniences imho.
And a tactical vote to keep someone out?"
I believe they were all as bad as each other, not only that, there is only ever one winner in my ward. Visiting students vote here and it is always Labour in this side of Brighton & Hove. |
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"I didn’t vote because there was nobody standing in my constituency that I wanted to vote for. I’m sure that many others felt the same. It’s not ideal, but it is my right to decide whether or not to vote. If they make it compulsory, and there is nobody I want to support, I will simply spoil my ballot paper. So what would be the point? Too many inconveniences imho."
This exactly. I'm politically homeless and I don't want part of a system where the only option is 'the lesser evil' |
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By *irldnCouple 19 weeks ago
Brighton |
"I didn’t vote because there was nobody standing in my constituency that I wanted to vote for. I’m sure that many others felt the same. It’s not ideal, but it is my right to decide whether or not to vote. If they make it compulsory, and there is nobody I want to support, I will simply spoil my ballot paper. So what would be the point? Too many inconveniences imho.
And a tactical vote to keep someone out?
I believe they were all as bad as each other, not only that, there is only ever one winner in my ward. Visiting students vote here and it is always Labour in this side of Brighton & Hove."
Same on the other side of B&H only here it is champagne socialists.
B&H has a green filling between two red slices of bread |
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"I didn’t vote because there was nobody standing in my constituency that I wanted to vote for. I’m sure that many others felt the same. It’s not ideal, but it is my right to decide whether or not to vote. If they make it compulsory, and there is nobody I want to support, I will simply spoil my ballot paper. So what would be the point? Too many inconveniences imho."
given the number of paper candidates reform may have out forward, do you know why they didn't out anyone up in your area ?
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"How many were turned away because of the wrong forms of ID?"
The ID requirements have been published for so long, and free ID has been available for long enough, that those who turned up without it don't deserve to be able to vote. |
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I support voting for 16 and 17 year olds. Get young people interested and engaged whilst still at school and college.
Add the option of online voting.
Either abolish the ID requirements, or expand the ID options to include young persons ID cards, although the present requirements have backfired on the Tories, who seem to be incompetent at everything lol. |
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If you haven't got any form of ID then you shouldn't be able to vote. People under the age of 18 have no idea about anything, I'd raise the voting age to 25.
If we had politicians who wanted to improve the lives of their constituents then maybe they'd get votes but the liblabcon uniparty is deliberately ruining our lives so what's the point of voting? |
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"I didn’t vote because there was nobody standing in my constituency that I wanted to vote for. I’m sure that many others felt the same. It’s not ideal, but it is my right to decide whether or not to vote. If they make it compulsory, and there is nobody I want to support, I will simply spoil my ballot paper. So what would be the point? Too many inconveniences imho.given the number of paper candidates reform may have out forward, do you know why they didn't out anyone up in your area ? "
They were advertising for candidates here, so I would guess that nobody suitable applied. I’m confident that with five years of a Labour run national disaster, there will be people in place well before 2029. |
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"If you haven't got any form of ID then you shouldn't be able to vote. People under the age of 18 have no idea about anything, I'd raise the voting age to 25.
If we had politicians who wanted to improve the lives of their constituents then maybe they'd get votes but the liblabcon uniparty is deliberately ruining our lives so what's the point of voting? "
I agree, it would stop students from flooding university towns with loony left MPs. You are also correct about the liblabcon. None of them give a flying fuck about working people. |
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"If you haven't got any form of ID then you shouldn't be able to vote. People under the age of 18 have no idea about anything, I'd raise the voting age to 25.
If we had politicians who wanted to improve the lives of their constituents then maybe they'd get votes but the liblabcon uniparty is deliberately ruining our lives so what's the point of voting?
I agree, it would stop students from flooding university towns with loony left MPs. You are also correct about the liblabcon. None of them give a flying fuck about working people."
Which MPs are "loony left"? |
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"If you haven't got any form of ID then you shouldn't be able to vote. People under the age of 18 have no idea about anything, I'd raise the voting age to 25.
If we had politicians who wanted to improve the lives of their constituents then maybe they'd get votes but the liblabcon uniparty is deliberately ruining our lives so what's the point of voting?
I agree, it would stop students from flooding university towns with loony left MPs. You are also correct about the liblabcon. None of them give a flying fuck about working people.
Which MPs are "loony left"?"
Those in Brighton & Hove, especially the Green Party one. |
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"If you haven't got any form of ID then you shouldn't be able to vote. People under the age of 18 have no idea about anything, I'd raise the voting age to 25.
If we had politicians who wanted to improve the lives of their constituents then maybe they'd get votes but the liblabcon uniparty is deliberately ruining our lives so what's the point of voting?
I agree, it would stop students from flooding university towns with loony left MPs. You are also correct about the liblabcon. None of them give a flying fuck about working people.
Which MPs are "loony left"?
Those in Brighton & Hove, especially the Green Party one."
Interesting. Do you have an example of their "loony left" policies or rhetoric or anything? |
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Actually it does result in more engagement . Iif have to do it they tend to be learning why they should.
Research also supports that. 