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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds

Should she come clean about her involvement in PIE ?

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By *onica-mayhemWoman 3 weeks ago

Belfast/dublin


"Should she come clean about her involvement in PIE ?"

I thought it was common knowledge.

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By *irldnCouple 3 weeks ago

Brighton

Steak & Kidney or Chicken & Leak?

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 3 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Steak & Kidney or Chicken & Leak?"

Shepherds?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 3 weeks ago

golden fields


"Steak & Kidney or Chicken & Leak?

Shepherds?"

Rhubarb and apple crumble. If "crumble" is still technically a pie, legally speaking.

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds

Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 3 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??"

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

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By *irldnCouple 3 weeks ago

Brighton


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??"

Actually now knowing what it refers to, apologies. But the OP should perhaps have been clearer.

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By *atEvolutionCouple 3 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club Stoke


"[Removed by poster at 10/07/24 13:27:00]"

I removed this message - as I really don't think it has a place on this adult forum.

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?"

Google it

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 3 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??"

That's news indeed, even the full might and resources of the mail ten years ago didn't find that to be the case so just tried to smear her..

What's your source in making the allegations?

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By *melie LALWoman 3 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Steak & Kidney or Chicken & Leak?"

Steak and ale, yummy

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 3 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it "

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know.

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know."

Really

Funny when I do it all over internet.

A few references

BBC

Independent

Telegraph

London Standard

Wiki

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know."

Do you have internet in Cumbri ???

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By *melie LALWoman 3 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Peadophile information exchange"

Obvious no-one knew.

Also, isn't subject matter banned from any of the fora?

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 3 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know.

Do you have internet in Cumbri ???"

Yes, we can spell too .

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds


"Peadophile information exchange

Obvious no-one knew.

Also, isn't subject matter banned from any of the fora?"

Or didn’t what to know???

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know.

Do you have internet in Cumbri ???

Yes, we can spell too ."

Sorry Typo Cumbria

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 3 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know.

Really

Funny when I do it all over internet.

A few references

BBC

Independent

Telegraph

London Standard

Wiki

"

I’m not sure you understand what is meant by the word evidence. I could make a statement that _ravelmanxxx is not a sex offender, and then if I did a google search for ‘_ravelmanxxx sex offender’ there would be a reference. It wouldn’t mean _ravelmanxxx was a sex offender though.

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By *astandFeistyCouple 3 weeks ago

Bournemouth

I didn't know but googling Harriet Harman PIE brings it up.

Don't got involved in something with an acronym if you don't know or aren't willing to find out what it means.

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know."

Strange one though isn’t it. Little Lefty bang on about equality and human rights etc,etc,etc . And they didn’t know one of their own advocated for a Peadophile group

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By *atEvolutionCouple 3 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club Stoke

Usual case of grab half the story, then bang on about half of the truth.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 3 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know.

Strange one though isn’t it. Little Lefty bang on about equality and human rights etc,etc,etc . And they didn’t know one of their own advocated for a Peadophile group "

You’ve still not produced any evidence she did.

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know.

Strange one though isn’t it. Little Lefty bang on about equality and human rights etc,etc,etc . And they didn’t know one of their own advocated for a Peadophile group

You’ve still not produced any evidence she did."

Harriet Harman has said she "regrets" a civil liberties group she once worked for had links to pro-paedophile campaigners in the 1970s but insisted she has "nothing to apologise for". Source BBC

Harriet must be lying about herself than??

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By *melie LALWoman 3 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Peadophile information exchange

Obvious no-one knew.

Also, isn't subject matter banned from any of the fora?

Or didn’t what to know???"

If you get a ban, then you'll know I'm right.

Or perhaps this particular forum gets away with a lot of shit.

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds


"Peadophile information exchange

Obvious no-one knew.

Also, isn't subject matter banned from any of the fora?

Or didn’t what to know???

If you get a ban, then you'll know I'm right.

Or perhaps this particular forum gets away with a lot of shit."

Only discussing what is common knowledge and reported on for over 40 years.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 3 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know.

Strange one though isn’t it. Little Lefty bang on about equality and human rights etc,etc,etc . And they didn’t know one of their own advocated for a Peadophile group

You’ve still not produced any evidence she did.

Harriet Harman has said she "regrets" a civil liberties group she once worked for had links to pro-paedophile campaigners in the 1970s but insisted she has "nothing to apologise for". Source BBC

Harriet must be lying about herself than??"

You said she advocated and supported them, that does not say she advocated and supported them.

That says she was once part of a group that had links to them.

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know.

Strange one though isn’t it. Little Lefty bang on about equality and human rights etc,etc,etc . And they didn’t know one of their own advocated for a Peadophile group

You’ve still not produced any evidence she did.

Harriet Harman has said she "regrets" a civil liberties group she once worked for had links to pro-paedophile campaigners in the 1970s but insisted she has "nothing to apologise for". Source BBC

Harriet must be lying about herself than??

You said she advocated and supported them, that does not say she advocated and supported them.

That says she was once part of a group that had links to them."

Liberty, formerly, and still formally, called the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL),[1] is an advocacy group and membership organisation based in the United Kingdom, which challenges unjust laws, protects civil liberties and promotes human rights.

Where Harriet started her political career.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 3 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know.

Strange one though isn’t it. Little Lefty bang on about equality and human rights etc,etc,etc . And they didn’t know one of their own advocated for a Peadophile group

You’ve still not produced any evidence she did.

Harriet Harman has said she "regrets" a civil liberties group she once worked for had links to pro-paedophile campaigners in the 1970s but insisted she has "nothing to apologise for". Source BBC

Harriet must be lying about herself than??

You said she advocated and supported them, that does not say she advocated and supported them.

That says she was once part of a group that had links to them.

Liberty, formerly, and still formally, called the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL),[1] is an advocacy group and membership organisation based in the United Kingdom, which challenges unjust laws, protects civil liberties and promotes human rights.

Where Harriet started her political career.

"

Still doesn’t prove that she advocated for, or supported the PIE.

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know.

Strange one though isn’t it. Little Lefty bang on about equality and human rights etc,etc,etc . And they didn’t know one of their own advocated for a Peadophile group

You’ve still not produced any evidence she did.

Harriet Harman has said she "regrets" a civil liberties group she once worked for had links to pro-paedophile campaigners in the 1970s but insisted she has "nothing to apologise for". Source BBC

Harriet must be lying about herself than??

You said she advocated and supported them, that does not say she advocated and supported them.

That says she was once part of a group that had links to them.

Liberty, formerly, and still formally, called the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL),[1] is an advocacy group and membership organisation based in the United Kingdom, which challenges unjust laws, protects civil liberties and promotes human rights.

Where Harriet started her political career.

Still doesn’t prove that she advocated for, or supported the PIE."

Thing you need to research Liberty and their purpose before you come to that conclusion. PIE were involved with Liberty for over nine years. Helping PIE secure £70,000 to fund their course.

Do some research please. It’s easy to find.

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By *irldnCouple 3 weeks ago

Brighton


"I didn't know but googling Harriet Harman PIE brings it up.

Don't got involved in something with an acronym if you don't know or aren't willing to find out what it means. "

With hindsight I agree except why make things so difficult or opaque in the first place. Just say what it is all about in the OP instead of either assuming people know what the post is about or forcing people to reaearch.

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By *astandFeistyCouple 3 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"I didn't know but googling Harriet Harman PIE brings it up.

Don't got involved in something with an acronym if you don't know or aren't willing to find out what it means.

With hindsight I agree except why make things so difficult or opaque in the first place. Just say what it is all about in the OP instead of either assuming people know what the post is about or forcing people to reaearch."

I would agree but it was a clear acronym.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 3 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Peadophile information exchange.

Hartman advocated and support a group wanting to legalise sex with children and have child porn on sale same as adult porn. Hardly a laughing matter unless the above think it’s ok to have sex with children??

She advocated for, and supported the paedophile information exchange?

Google it

I did, but couldn’t find any evidence, so I’m wondering what it is that you know.

Strange one though isn’t it. Little Lefty bang on about equality and human rights etc,etc,etc . And they didn’t know one of their own advocated for a Peadophile group

You’ve still not produced any evidence she did.

Harriet Harman has said she "regrets" a civil liberties group she once worked for had links to pro-paedophile campaigners in the 1970s but insisted she has "nothing to apologise for". Source BBC

Harriet must be lying about herself than??

You said she advocated and supported them, that does not say she advocated and supported them.

That says she was once part of a group that had links to them.

Liberty, formerly, and still formally, called the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL),[1] is an advocacy group and membership organisation based in the United Kingdom, which challenges unjust laws, protects civil liberties and promotes human rights.

Where Harriet started her political career.

Still doesn’t prove that she advocated for, or supported the PIE.

Thing you need to research Liberty and their purpose before you come to that conclusion. PIE were involved with Liberty for over nine years. Helping PIE secure £70,000 to fund their course.

Do some research please. It’s easy to find.

"

If this is the level of proof you consider sufficient then I assume you would convict people who know people who know murderers as accessories.

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By *irldnCouple 3 weeks ago

Brighton


"I didn't know but googling Harriet Harman PIE brings it up.

Don't got involved in something with an acronym if you don't know or aren't willing to find out what it means.

With hindsight I agree except why make things so difficult or opaque in the first place. Just say what it is all about in the OP instead of either assuming people know what the post is about or forcing people to reaearch.

I would agree but it was a clear acronym. "

Doesn’t matter. The OP should be clearer and not assume either knowledge or willingness/desire to research.

It is really quite easy to provide context in one’s posts.

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By *unner6969Man 3 weeks ago

Herts/Bucks


"Should she come clean about her involvement in PIE ?"

She did not support PIE. Her involvement as legal officer with the National Council for Civil Liberties came after PIE had been allowed to affiliate with it.

She has consistently denied any support for PIE or its objectives. NCCL campaigned on a wide range of civil liberties and PIE was tiny and below the radar - unnoticed.

Media spin.

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By *usybee73Man 3 weeks ago

in the sticks

Link to the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378

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By *ravelmanxxx OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Durham/ Leeds


"Should she come clean about her involvement in PIE ?

She did not support PIE. Her involvement as legal officer with the National Council for Civil Liberties came after PIE had been allowed to affiliate with it.

She has consistently denied any support for PIE or its objectives. NCCL campaigned on a wide range of civil liberties and PIE was tiny and below the radar - unnoticed.

Media spin."

Antonia Molloy ???

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By *astandFeistyCouple 3 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"I didn't know but googling Harriet Harman PIE brings it up.

Don't got involved in something with an acronym if you don't know or aren't willing to find out what it means.

With hindsight I agree except why make things so difficult or opaque in the first place. Just say what it is all about in the OP instead of either assuming people know what the post is about or forcing people to reaearch.

I would agree but it was a clear acronym.

Doesn’t matter. The OP should be clearer and not assume either knowledge or willingness/desire to research.

It is really quite easy to provide context in one’s posts. "

It's also really easy to research an acronym you don't understand. As I said, either research it or don't get involved (or even ask what the acronym means). Nothing will make me change my mind on that.

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By *oolyCoolyCplCouple 3 weeks ago

Newcastle under Lyme

There is an article from Guardian in 2014 that explains it best. The short answer is that she didn't help PIE from the sound of it.

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By *irldnCouple 3 weeks ago

Brighton


"I didn't know but googling Harriet Harman PIE brings it up.

Don't got involved in something with an acronym if you don't know or aren't willing to find out what it means.

With hindsight I agree except why make things so difficult or opaque in the first place. Just say what it is all about in the OP instead of either assuming people know what the post is about or forcing people to reaearch.

I would agree but it was a clear acronym.

Doesn’t matter. The OP should be clearer and not assume either knowledge or willingness/desire to research.

It is really quite easy to provide context in one’s posts.

It's also really easy to research an acronym you don't understand. As I said, either research it or don't get involved (or even ask what the acronym means). Nothing will make me change my mind on that. "

“research it or don't get involved” oh the irony

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By *astandFeistyCouple 3 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"I didn't know but googling Harriet Harman PIE brings it up.

Don't got involved in something with an acronym if you don't know or aren't willing to find out what it means.

With hindsight I agree except why make things so difficult or opaque in the first place. Just say what it is all about in the OP instead of either assuming people know what the post is about or forcing people to reaearch.

I would agree but it was a clear acronym.

Doesn’t matter. The OP should be clearer and not assume either knowledge or willingness/desire to research.

It is really quite easy to provide context in one’s posts.

It's also really easy to research an acronym you don't understand. As I said, either research it or don't get involved (or even ask what the acronym means). Nothing will make me change my mind on that.

“research it or don't get involved” oh the irony"

Did you come just to argue with me about my opinion on this?

I'm not the one having to apologise for being a dick. Maybe you should just give up on this one mate.

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By *irldnCouple 3 weeks ago

Brighton


"I didn't know but googling Harriet Harman PIE brings it up.

Don't got involved in something with an acronym if you don't know or aren't willing to find out what it means.

With hindsight I agree except why make things so difficult or opaque in the first place. Just say what it is all about in the OP instead of either assuming people know what the post is about or forcing people to reaearch.

I would agree but it was a clear acronym.

Doesn’t matter. The OP should be clearer and not assume either knowledge or willingness/desire to research.

It is really quite easy to provide context in one’s posts.

It's also really easy to research an acronym you don't understand. As I said, either research it or don't get involved (or even ask what the acronym means). Nothing will make me change my mind on that.

“research it or don't get involved” oh the irony

Did you come just to argue with me about my opinion on this?

I'm not the one having to apologise for being a dick. Maybe you should just give up on this one mate. "

I was happy to pull up my big boy pants and apologise for a jokey post when I realised context. That was several posts before your first post but you felt the need to say something and have a dig. So if the cap fits

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By *astandFeistyCouple 3 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"I didn't know but googling Harriet Harman PIE brings it up.

Don't got involved in something with an acronym if you don't know or aren't willing to find out what it means.

With hindsight I agree except why make things so difficult or opaque in the first place. Just say what it is all about in the OP instead of either assuming people know what the post is about or forcing people to reaearch.

I would agree but it was a clear acronym.

Doesn’t matter. The OP should be clearer and not assume either knowledge or willingness/desire to research.

It is really quite easy to provide context in one’s posts.

It's also really easy to research an acronym you don't understand. As I said, either research it or don't get involved (or even ask what the acronym means). Nothing will make me change my mind on that.

“research it or don't get involved” oh the irony

Did you come just to argue with me about my opinion on this?

I'm not the one having to apologise for being a dick. Maybe you should just give up on this one mate.

I was happy to pull up my big boy pants and apologise for a jokey post when I realised context. That was several posts before your first post but you felt the need to say something and have a dig. So if the cap fits "

I didn't 'have a dig', it was a general view that you shouldn't get involved in something if you don't know or aren't willing to research. That's just basic 'common' sense. And it definitely wasn't aimed at you in particular.

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By *irldnCouple 3 weeks ago

Brighton


"I didn't know but googling Harriet Harman PIE brings it up.

Don't got involved in something with an acronym if you don't know or aren't willing to find out what it means.

With hindsight I agree except why make things so difficult or opaque in the first place. Just say what it is all about in the OP instead of either assuming people know what the post is about or forcing people to reaearch.

I would agree but it was a clear acronym.

Doesn’t matter. The OP should be clearer and not assume either knowledge or willingness/desire to research.

It is really quite easy to provide context in one’s posts.

It's also really easy to research an acronym you don't understand. As I said, either research it or don't get involved (or even ask what the acronym means). Nothing will make me change my mind on that.

“research it or don't get involved” oh the irony

Did you come just to argue with me about my opinion on this?

I'm not the one having to apologise for being a dick. Maybe you should just give up on this one mate.

I was happy to pull up my big boy pants and apologise for a jokey post when I realised context. That was several posts before your first post but you felt the need to say something and have a dig. So if the cap fits

I didn't 'have a dig', it was a general view that you shouldn't get involved in something if you don't know or aren't willing to research. That's just basic 'common' sense. And it definitely wasn't aimed at you in particular. "

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