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By (user no longer on site) OP 23 weeks ago
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In before Fabio 
Among the promises we expect in the 70-ish-page document are:
Cutting National Insurance by another 2p for employees, as part of an ambition to get rid of it entirely
Abolish stamp duty for most first-time buyers by lifting permanently the threshold where the tax on buying a home kicks in to £425,000
A Help to Buy scheme. First-time buyers would be offered a 20% government equity loan, meaning people could buy with just a 5% deposit they have saved up for
Landlords would also get capital gains tax relief if they sold their property to the existing tenants.
But, it doesn’t look like there will be much in the document on inheritance tax |
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By *abioMan 23 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"The NI give away looks good on the surface but how are they clawing the cost of that back? Frozen thresholds (when we have inflation) seems to be the favoured way of both Cons and Labs."
Whilst we are looking at glossy things… the stamp duty thing abolishment for 1st buyers under 425k from 300k may sound good…. But the ifs found that actually it does help that many people… the phrase they used is “handful of thousands” |
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By *irldnCouple 23 weeks ago
Brighton |
"The NI give away looks good on the surface but how are they clawing the cost of that back? Frozen thresholds (when we have inflation) seems to be the favoured way of both Cons and Labs.
Whilst we are looking at glossy things… the stamp duty thing abolishment for 1st buyers under 425k from 300k may sound good…. But the ifs found that actually it does help that many people… the phrase they used is “handful of thousands”"
Is that because the £425k is actually out of reach of the vast majority of first time buyers anyway? |
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The problem with any government that has been in power for the length of time they have is the glaringly obvious 'why haven't you already done that's in relation to some issues..
On issues where they failed to deliver in this parliament they are also open to criticism on the last manifesto..
And yes 'events dear boy' has a part..
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By *abioMan 23 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"The NI give away looks good on the surface but how are they clawing the cost of that back? Frozen thresholds (when we have inflation) seems to be the favoured way of both Cons and Labs.
Whilst we are looking at glossy things… the stamp duty thing abolishment for 1st buyers under 425k from 300k may sound good…. But the ifs found that actually it does help that many people… the phrase they used is “handful of thousands”
Is that because the £425k is actually out of reach of the vast majority of first time buyers anyway?"
Kinda… 2 reasons…. If you don’t live in the south east… you are not really buying anything up to 300k already.. so the move up is moot
The deposit you need to find anyway on a 300-425k house means savings a couple hundred quid isn’t really making a huge difference anyway |
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By *irldnCouple 23 weeks ago
Brighton |
"The NI give away looks good on the surface but how are they clawing the cost of that back? Frozen thresholds (when we have inflation) seems to be the favoured way of both Cons and Labs.
Whilst we are looking at glossy things… the stamp duty thing abolishment for 1st buyers under 425k from 300k may sound good…. But the ifs found that actually it does help that many people… the phrase they used is “handful of thousands”
Is that because the £425k is actually out of reach of the vast majority of first time buyers anyway?
Kinda… 2 reasons…. If you don’t live in the south east… you are not really buying anything up to 300k already.. so the move up is moot
The deposit you need to find anyway on a 300-425k house means savings a couple hundred quid isn’t really making a huge difference anyway "
 makes sense. It is eye candy but ultimately meaningless. Now if it had not been restricted to first time buyers it could have helped stimulate the housing market! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 23 weeks ago
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"The NI give away looks good on the surface but how are they clawing the cost of that back? Frozen thresholds (when we have inflation) seems to be the favoured way of both Cons and Labs.
Whilst we are looking at glossy things… the stamp duty thing abolishment for 1st buyers under 425k from 300k may sound good…. But the ifs found that actually it does help that many people… the phrase they used is “handful of thousands”"
you can get their loan for that. |
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"The NI give away looks good on the surface but how are they clawing the cost of that back? Frozen thresholds (when we have inflation) seems to be the favoured way of both Cons and Labs.
Whilst we are looking at glossy things… the stamp duty thing abolishment for 1st buyers under 425k from 300k may sound good…. But the ifs found that actually it does help that many people… the phrase they used is “handful of thousands”
Is that because the £425k is actually out of reach of the vast majority of first time buyers anyway?"
Anyone with a cash deposit on a £425k house is almost certainly getting it from the bank of mater and pater. |
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By *irldnCouple 23 weeks ago
Brighton |
"I can’t help but notice a lot of people who were big supporters of the Tories have gone very quiet of late."
Ominous. They’ve circled the wagons and are plotting a strategy. And probably also waiting for Suella’s alternative fascist, ooops Tory, manifesto! |
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There 17 billion cuts their promising have been looked at by 'independant' think tanks and they've been criticised as implausible.
The whole manifesto has been described as benefitting the wealthy much more than the lower income families, how unexpected haha.
And on a separate note, Sunak is telling the population he is a man of the people, despite being described by the presenter as being 'richer than the King'. Poor Rishi is going to let everyone know that he really wanted Sky TV but his parents didn't let him have this, choosing to send him to Wellington College instead.
So Sunaks parents could afford the thousands of pounds a term to send him to Wellington College but couldn't afford £20 a month for Sky TV. He'll be yelling us next that this has been 'independently verified and signed off' by somebody official.
Had to go without as a child, his parents were a GP and a Pharmacist.... yeah right, and he does have more money than the King, so he can definitely relate to the lives of us ordinary folk.
Mrs x |
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"I can’t help but notice a lot of people who were big supporters of the Tories have gone very quiet of late.
Ominous. They’ve circled the wagons and are plotting a strategy. And probably also waiting for Suella’s alternative fascist, ooops Tory, manifesto!"
Pat is poised.. |
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He will tell people on the interview tonight, the pre recorded interview he left D-Day for.
Hope they show the bit we're he first walks in. He greets the presenter warmly, before apologising for being a bit late. He goes on to explain he's been at the D-Day commemorative services but they 'over ran', honestly that's what he said... 'over ran'. The man has no morals or empathy for those brave servicemen.
He's just a lying twat.
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"There 17 billion cuts their promising have been looked at by 'independant' think tanks and they've been criticised as implausible.
The whole manifesto has been described as benefitting the wealthy much more than the lower income families, how unexpected haha.
And on a separate note, Sunak is telling the population he is a man of the people, despite being described by the presenter as being 'richer than the King'. Poor Rishi is going to let everyone know that he really wanted Sky TV but his parents didn't let him have this, choosing to send him to Wellington College instead.
So Sunaks parents could afford the thousands of pounds a term to send him to Wellington College but couldn't afford £20 a month for Sky TV. He'll be yelling us next that this has been 'independently verified and signed off' by somebody official.
Had to go without as a child, his parents were a GP and a Pharmacist.... yeah right, and he does have more money than the King, so he can definitely relate to the lives of us ordinary folk.
Mrs x"
Not having Sky..
His attempt at 'i have been there' with the rise in people who under his parties governance have to use food banks..
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"There 17 billion cuts their promising have been looked at by 'independant' think tanks and they've been criticised as implausible.
The whole manifesto has been described as benefitting the wealthy much more than the lower income families, how unexpected haha.
And on a separate note, Sunak is telling the population he is a man of the people, despite being described by the presenter as being 'richer than the King'. Poor Rishi is going to let everyone know that he really wanted Sky TV but his parents didn't let him have this, choosing to send him to Wellington College instead.
So Sunaks parents could afford the thousands of pounds a term to send him to Wellington College but couldn't afford £20 a month for Sky TV. He'll be yelling us next that this has been 'independently verified and signed off' by somebody official.
Had to go without as a child, his parents were a GP and a Pharmacist.... yeah right, and he does have more money than the King, so he can definitely relate to the lives of us ordinary folk.
Mrs x
Not having Sky..
His attempt at 'i have been there' with the rise in people who under his parties governance have to use food banks..
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He went without Sky yet expects kids to go without breakfast, dinner and tea, cunt.
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"There 17 billion cuts their promising have been looked at by 'independant' think tanks and they've been criticised as implausible.
The whole manifesto has been described as benefitting the wealthy much more than the lower income families, how unexpected haha.
And on a separate note, Sunak is telling the population he is a man of the people, despite being described by the presenter as being 'richer than the King'. Poor Rishi is going to let everyone know that he really wanted Sky TV but his parents didn't let him have this, choosing to send him to Wellington College instead.
So Sunaks parents could afford the thousands of pounds a term to send him to Wellington College but couldn't afford £20 a month for Sky TV. He'll be yelling us next that this has been 'independently verified and signed off' by somebody official.
Had to go without as a child, his parents were a GP and a Pharmacist.... yeah right, and he does have more money than the King, so he can definitely relate to the lives of us ordinary folk.
Mrs x
Not having Sky..
His attempt at 'i have been there' with the rise in people who under his parties governance have to use food banks..
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using food banks, but do they have Sky? |
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By *irldnCouple 23 weeks ago
Brighton |
"There 17 billion cuts their promising have been looked at by 'independant' think tanks and they've been criticised as implausible.
The whole manifesto has been described as benefitting the wealthy much more than the lower income families, how unexpected haha.
And on a separate note, Sunak is telling the population he is a man of the people, despite being described by the presenter as being 'richer than the King'. Poor Rishi is going to let everyone know that he really wanted Sky TV but his parents didn't let him have this, choosing to send him to Wellington College instead.
So Sunaks parents could afford the thousands of pounds a term to send him to Wellington College but couldn't afford £20 a month for Sky TV. He'll be yelling us next that this has been 'independently verified and signed off' by somebody official.
Had to go without as a child, his parents were a GP and a Pharmacist.... yeah right, and he does have more money than the King, so he can definitely relate to the lives of us ordinary folk.
Mrs x
Not having Sky..
His attempt at 'i have been there' with the rise in people who under his parties governance have to use food banks..
using food banks, but do they have Sky?"
A lot on here at least have the Sky remote. And a can of Lynx  |
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"There 17 billion cuts their promising have been looked at by 'independant' think tanks and they've been criticised as implausible.
The whole manifesto has been described as benefitting the wealthy much more than the lower income families, how unexpected haha.
And on a separate note, Sunak is telling the population he is a man of the people, despite being described by the presenter as being 'richer than the King'. Poor Rishi is going to let everyone know that he really wanted Sky TV but his parents didn't let him have this, choosing to send him to Wellington College instead.
So Sunaks parents could afford the thousands of pounds a term to send him to Wellington College but couldn't afford £20 a month for Sky TV. He'll be yelling us next that this has been 'independently verified and signed off' by somebody official.
Had to go without as a child, his parents were a GP and a Pharmacist.... yeah right, and he does have more money than the King, so he can definitely relate to the lives of us ordinary folk.
Mrs x
Not having Sky..
His attempt at 'i have been there' with the rise in people who under his parties governance have to use food banks..
using food banks, but do they have Sky?"
Given the spread of the use of food banks across many of the so called social classes it's entirely possible some do yes, especially if they signed a contract before their circumstances changed..
I would guess that not many attending schools such as rishi, Boris etc did have used food banks but they also might have sky.. |
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"There 17 billion cuts their promising have been looked at by 'independant' think tanks and they've been criticised as implausible.
The whole manifesto has been described as benefitting the wealthy much more than the lower income families, how unexpected haha.
And on a separate note, Sunak is telling the population he is a man of the people, despite being described by the presenter as being 'richer than the King'. Poor Rishi is going to let everyone know that he really wanted Sky TV but his parents didn't let him have this, choosing to send him to Wellington College instead.
So Sunaks parents could afford the thousands of pounds a term to send him to Wellington College but couldn't afford £20 a month for Sky TV. He'll be yelling us next that this has been 'independently verified and signed off' by somebody official.
Had to go without as a child, his parents were a GP and a Pharmacist.... yeah right, and he does have more money than the King, so he can definitely relate to the lives of us ordinary folk.
Mrs x
Not having Sky..
His attempt at 'i have been there' with the rise in people who under his parties governance have to use food banks..
using food banks, but do they have Sky?
Given the spread of the use of food banks across many of the so called social classes it's entirely possible some do yes, especially if they signed a contract before their circumstances changed..
I would guess that not many attending schools such as rishi, Boris etc did have used food banks but they also might have sky.."
That's kinda my point - there is such a thing as priorities. |
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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago
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"I can’t help but notice a lot of people who were big supporters of the Tories have gone very quiet of late."
Very different from the smug arrogance of 2010-I hope they are eating cat food myself. |
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"There 17 billion cuts their promising have been looked at by 'independant' think tanks and they've been criticised as implausible.
The whole manifesto has been described as benefitting the wealthy much more than the lower income families, how unexpected haha.
And on a separate note, Sunak is telling the population he is a man of the people, despite being described by the presenter as being 'richer than the King'. Poor Rishi is going to let everyone know that he really wanted Sky TV but his parents didn't let him have this, choosing to send him to Wellington College instead.
So Sunaks parents could afford the thousands of pounds a term to send him to Wellington College but couldn't afford £20 a month for Sky TV. He'll be yelling us next that this has been 'independently verified and signed off' by somebody official.
Had to go without as a child, his parents were a GP and a Pharmacist.... yeah right, and he does have more money than the King, so he can definitely relate to the lives of us ordinary folk.
Mrs x
Not having Sky..
His attempt at 'i have been there' with the rise in people who under his parties governance have to use food banks..
using food banks, but do they have Sky?
Given the spread of the use of food banks across many of the so called social classes it's entirely possible some do yes, especially if they signed a contract before their circumstances changed..
I would guess that not many attending schools such as rishi, Boris etc did have used food banks but they also might have sky..
That's kinda my point - there is such a thing as priorities."
If you’re tied into a contract that you signed before your circumstances changed then priorities have very little to do with it. |
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"There 17 billion cuts their promising have been looked at by 'independant' think tanks and they've been criticised as implausible.
The whole manifesto has been described as benefitting the wealthy much more than the lower income families, how unexpected haha.
And on a separate note, Sunak is telling the population he is a man of the people, despite being described by the presenter as being 'richer than the King'. Poor Rishi is going to let everyone know that he really wanted Sky TV but his parents didn't let him have this, choosing to send him to Wellington College instead.
So Sunaks parents could afford the thousands of pounds a term to send him to Wellington College but couldn't afford £20 a month for Sky TV. He'll be yelling us next that this has been 'independently verified and signed off' by somebody official.
Had to go without as a child, his parents were a GP and a Pharmacist.... yeah right, and he does have more money than the King, so he can definitely relate to the lives of us ordinary folk.
Mrs x
Not having Sky..
His attempt at 'i have been there' with the rise in people who under his parties governance have to use food banks..
using food banks, but do they have Sky?
Given the spread of the use of food banks across many of the so called social classes it's entirely possible some do yes, especially if they signed a contract before their circumstances changed..
I would guess that not many attending schools such as rishi, Boris etc did have used food banks but they also might have sky..
That's kinda my point - there is such a thing as priorities."
'Let them eat cake'? Mrs x |
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"There 17 billion cuts their promising have been looked at by 'independant' think tanks and they've been criticised as implausible.
The whole manifesto has been described as benefitting the wealthy much more than the lower income families, how unexpected haha.
And on a separate note, Sunak is telling the population he is a man of the people, despite being described by the presenter as being 'richer than the King'. Poor Rishi is going to let everyone know that he really wanted Sky TV but his parents didn't let him have this, choosing to send him to Wellington College instead.
So Sunaks parents could afford the thousands of pounds a term to send him to Wellington College but couldn't afford £20 a month for Sky TV. He'll be yelling us next that this has been 'independently verified and signed off' by somebody official.
Had to go without as a child, his parents were a GP and a Pharmacist.... yeah right, and he does have more money than the King, so he can definitely relate to the lives of us ordinary folk.
Mrs x
Not having Sky..
His attempt at 'i have been there' with the rise in people who under his parties governance have to use food banks..
using food banks, but do they have Sky?
Given the spread of the use of food banks across many of the so called social classes it's entirely possible some do yes, especially if they signed a contract before their circumstances changed..
I would guess that not many attending schools such as rishi, Boris etc did have used food banks but they also might have sky..
That's kinda my point - there is such a thing as priorities.'Let them eat cake'? Mrs x"
Laudable, but who's buying the cakes Marie? |
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By *otMe66Man 23 weeks ago
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"I can’t help but notice a lot of people who were big supporters of the Tories have gone very quiet of late.
Ominous. They’ve circled the wagons and are plotting a strategy. And probably also waiting for Suella’s alternative fascist, ooops Tory, manifesto!"
It could be recent threads have become more like echo chambers |
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By *irldnCouple 23 weeks ago
Brighton |
"I can’t help but notice a lot of people who were big supporters of the Tories have gone very quiet of late.
Ominous. They’ve circled the wagons and are plotting a strategy. And probably also waiting for Suella’s alternative fascist, ooops Tory, manifesto!
It could be recent threads have become more like echo chambers"
You mean a self fulfilling prophecy? If people with different views stop posting then it is inevitable that those with similar views posting will lead to echo chambers. So it is all the fault of the Tories (supporters) |
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By *irldnCouple 23 weeks ago
Brighton |
"I can’t help but notice a lot of people who were big supporters of the Tories have gone very quiet of late.
Ominous. They’ve circled the wagons and are plotting a strategy. And probably also waiting for Suella’s alternative fascist, ooops Tory, manifesto!
It could be recent threads have become more like echo chambers
You mean a self fulfilling prophecy? If people with different views stop posting then it is inevitable that those with similar views posting will lead to echo chambers. So it is all the fault of the Tories (supporters) "
Oh and let’s be honest here…Sunak and his team are the gift that keeps on giving  |
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"There 17 billion cuts their promising have been looked at by 'independant' think tanks and they've been criticised as implausible.
The whole manifesto has been described as benefitting the wealthy much more than the lower income families, how unexpected haha.
And on a separate note, Sunak is telling the population he is a man of the people, despite being described by the presenter as being 'richer than the King'. Poor Rishi is going to let everyone know that he really wanted Sky TV but his parents didn't let him have this, choosing to send him to Wellington College instead.
So Sunaks parents could afford the thousands of pounds a term to send him to Wellington College but couldn't afford £20 a month for Sky TV. He'll be yelling us next that this has been 'independently verified and signed off' by somebody official.
Had to go without as a child, his parents were a GP and a Pharmacist.... yeah right, and he does have more money than the King, so he can definitely relate to the lives of us ordinary folk.
Mrs x
Not having Sky..
His attempt at 'i have been there' with the rise in people who under his parties governance have to use food banks..
using food banks, but do they have Sky?
Given the spread of the use of food banks across many of the so called social classes it's entirely possible some do yes, especially if they signed a contract before their circumstances changed..
I would guess that not many attending schools such as rishi, Boris etc did have used food banks but they also might have sky..
That's kinda my point - there is such a thing as priorities.'Let them eat cake'? Mrs x
Laudable, but who's buying the cakes Marie?"
Anyone, just don't let me bake them, they'll be inedible,
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By *irldnCouple 23 weeks ago
Brighton |
"I can’t help but notice a lot of people who were big supporters of the Tories have gone very quiet of late.
Ominous. They’ve circled the wagons and are plotting a strategy. And probably also waiting for Suella’s alternative fascist, ooops Tory, manifesto!
It could be recent threads have become more like echo chambers
You mean a self fulfilling prophecy? If people with different views stop posting then it is inevitable that those with similar views posting will lead to echo chambers. So it is all the fault of the Tories (supporters)
Oh and let’s be honest here…Sunak and his team are the gift that keeps on giving "
And another one…
“Rishi Sunak’s closest parliamentary aide placed a £100 bet on a July election just three days before the prime minister named the date, the Guardian can reveal.
The Gambling Commission is understood to have launched an inquiry after Craig Williams, the prime minister’s parliamentary private secretary, who became an MP in 2019, placed a bet with the bookmaker Ladbrokes on Sunday 19 May in his local constituency of Montgomeryshire.”
Couldn’t make this shit up! |
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By *otMe66Man 23 weeks ago
Terra Firma |
"I can’t help but notice a lot of people who were big supporters of the Tories have gone very quiet of late.
Ominous. They’ve circled the wagons and are plotting a strategy. And probably also waiting for Suella’s alternative fascist, ooops Tory, manifesto!
It could be recent threads have become more like echo chambers
You mean a self fulfilling prophecy? If people with different views stop posting then it is inevitable that those with similar views posting will lead to echo chambers. So it is all the fault of the Tories (supporters)
Oh and let’s be honest here…Sunak and his team are the gift that keeps on giving
And another one…
“Rishi Sunak’s closest parliamentary aide placed a £100 bet on a July election just three days before the prime minister named the date, the Guardian can reveal.
The Gambling Commission is understood to have launched an inquiry after Craig Williams, the prime minister’s parliamentary private secretary, who became an MP in 2019, placed a bet with the bookmaker Ladbrokes on Sunday 19 May in his local constituency of Montgomeryshire.”
Couldn’t make this shit up!"
there is nobody supporting bad agendas, bad management or wrong doing, however it seems every thread simply goes the same way, all tories are twats, bash bash bash, and an echo chamber pops up. |
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By *otMe66Man 23 weeks ago
Terra Firma |
"I can’t help but notice a lot of people who were big supporters of the Tories have gone very quiet of late.
Ominous. They’ve circled the wagons and are plotting a strategy. And probably also waiting for Suella’s alternative fascist, ooops Tory, manifesto!
It could be recent threads have become more like echo chambers
You mean a self fulfilling prophecy? If people with different views stop posting then it is inevitable that those with similar views posting will lead to echo chambers. So it is all the fault of the Tories (supporters)
Oh and let’s be honest here…Sunak and his team are the gift that keeps on giving
And another one…
“Rishi Sunak’s closest parliamentary aide placed a £100 bet on a July election just three days before the prime minister named the date, the Guardian can reveal.
The Gambling Commission is understood to have launched an inquiry after Craig Williams, the prime minister’s parliamentary private secretary, who became an MP in 2019, placed a bet with the bookmaker Ladbrokes on Sunday 19 May in his local constituency of Montgomeryshire.”
Couldn’t make this shit up!"
Your last point, ref betting on the election date. There should be a criminal investigation and suspend.
I expect to see a harsh penalty if proven he used inside knowledge to gain financially.
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