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Cheers from crowds yesterday for Zelenskiy at D Day celebrations. Embraced by a US veteran in a wheelchair
France will transfer Mirage-2000 fighter jets to Ukraine and train Ukrainian pilots, the French president, Emmanuel Macron, has announced.
“You need normally between five-six months. So by the end of the year there will be pilots. The pilots will be trained in France,” said Macron.
France would also equip and train an entire brigade of 4,500 Ukrainian soldiers, Macron said. Amid speculation that Macron could swiftly announce the sending of French instructors to Ukraine
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By *deepdiveMan 4 weeks ago
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"All hot air as usual from Macron. The truth is, France lags Canada, Denmark, Netherlands, Poland with military support to Ukraine.UK is third after US and Germany. "
According to a recent article in US News (Feb 23rd, 2024) and a recent report..
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/these-countries-have-committed-the-most-aid-to-ukraine
you are incorrect with your figures.
Could you perhaps quote your source? |
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"All hot air as usual from Macron. The truth is, France lags Canada, Denmark, Netherlands, Poland with military support to Ukraine.UK is third after US and Germany.
According to a recent article in US News (Feb 23rd, 2024) and a recent report..
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/these-countries-have-committed-the-most-aid-to-ukraine
you are incorrect with your figures.
Could you perhaps quote your source?"
Ukraine Support Tracker |
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By *deepdiveMan 4 weeks ago
France / Birmingham |
"All hot air as usual from Macron. The truth is, France lags Canada, Denmark, Netherlands, Poland with military support to Ukraine.UK is third after US and Germany.
According to a recent article in US News (Feb 23rd, 2024) and a recent report..
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/these-countries-have-committed-the-most-aid-to-ukraine
you are incorrect with your figures.
Could you perhaps quote your source?
Ukraine Support Tracker"
They obviously use a different data source from the US report as the figures are quite different. |
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"All hot air as usual from Macron. The truth is, France lags Canada, Denmark, Netherlands, Poland with military support to Ukraine.UK is third after US and Germany.
According to a recent article in US News (Feb 23rd, 2024) and a recent report..
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/these-countries-have-committed-the-most-aid-to-ukraine
you are incorrect with your figures.
Could you perhaps quote your source?
Ukraine Support Tracker
They obviously use a different data source from the US report as the figures are quite different."
Yes. I think the difference lies in the share of EU funding, to which France has committed more. |
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"All hot air as usual from Macron. The truth is, France lags Canada, Denmark, Netherlands, Poland with military support to Ukraine.UK is third after US and Germany.
According to a recent article in US News (Feb 23rd, 2024) and a recent report..
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/these-countries-have-committed-the-most-aid-to-ukraine
you are incorrect with your figures.
Could you perhaps quote your source?
Ukraine Support Tracker
They obviously use a different data source from the US report as the figures are quite different."
But the article you posted, mentions its source has the Ukraine aid tracker. So surely it should be the same.  |
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Switching from Soviet Era aircraft to Western made ones is a complication, on top of all their other disadvantages, it could take years to integrate into their military.
Same with tanks. They can't take these tanks or planes to the Soviet era workshop, it's useless to them now, there's no infrastructure. They need to change so much, it can't be done, it takes more than even one or to years.
On top of the fact that they need a new army, they need a whole new military design, new equipment, foreign starting with NATO surplus supplies, the sponsors of this conflict are risking escalation with Russia and that will be even harsher for Ukraine.
The last escalation saw Russia go after the power grid and now direct talks with the Ukrainians are off the table Russia will only talk to the sponsor nations.
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"Switching from Soviet Era aircraft to Western made ones is a complication, on top of all their other disadvantages, it could take years to integrate into their military.
Same with tanks. They can't take these tanks or planes to the Soviet era workshop, it's useless to them now, there's no infrastructure. They need to change so much, it can't be done, it takes more than even one or to years.
On top of the fact that they need a new army, they need a whole new military design, new equipment, foreign starting with NATO surplus supplies, the sponsors of this conflict are risking escalation with Russia and that will be even harsher for Ukraine.
The last escalation saw Russia go after the power grid and now direct talks with the Ukrainians are off the table Russia will only talk to the sponsor nations.
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Very true as need the expertise to maintain them, repair and service ... isn't exactly an oil change!
Though notice he's made the pledge and half resigned. Typical politician |
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"Switching from Soviet Era aircraft to Western made ones is a complication, on top of all their other disadvantages, it could take years to integrate into their military.
Same with tanks. They can't take these tanks or planes to the Soviet era workshop, it's useless to them now, there's no infrastructure. They need to change so much, it can't be done, it takes more than even one or to years.
On top of the fact that they need a new army, they need a whole new military design, new equipment, foreign starting with NATO surplus supplies, the sponsors of this conflict are risking escalation with Russia and that will be even harsher for Ukraine.
The last escalation saw Russia go after the power grid and now direct talks with the Ukrainians are off the table Russia will only talk to the sponsor nations.
Very true as need the expertise to maintain them, repair and service ... isn't exactly an oil change!
Though notice he's made the pledge and half resigned. Typical politician "
I should catch up, I didn't see about the pledge. |
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