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"As an independent? They begrudgingly have her back but consider her a liability no,?" Yes she could. She is 70 years old. Been an MP for 37 years. Has a big fan club and is viewed as a trail blazer. Had an affair with Jeremy Corbyn. I hope she stands down and retires. Probably not suited to the current Labour party. Sadly often people in all walks of life go on too long... | |||
"As an independent? They begrudgingly have her back but consider her a liability no,?" I think she would be an asset to a labour government, one of the few people with real ministerial experience & a recognizable public image. yes she has made a few mistakes in a long career but who has not? | |||
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"she's barley numerate, "ha, yes I'm barely literate ....but I'm not an MP either (yet). | |||
"she's barley numerate,
ha, yes I'm barely literate ....but I'm not an MP either (yet)."You could start the 'Barley Numerate Party'. 'Count on our Current Crop of Members' 'We won't leave you blowing in the Wind' Can I do your PR? | |||
"As an independent? They begrudgingly have her back but consider her a liability no,?" Absolutely she could! In fact as a backbencher campaigning on local issues she is one of the better MPs across the house on either side It’s not the greatest look in the world… I think her plan was to announce she would retire on her own terms.. being forced out whilst welcoming in the likes of elphicke isn’t helping! | |||
"she's barley numerate,
ha, yes I'm barely literate ....but I'm not an MP either (yet).
You could start the 'Barley Numerate Party'.
'Count on our Current Crop of Members'
'We won't leave you blowing in the Wind'
Can I do your PR?"The jobs yours!! Harvest as many votes as you can. | |||
"she's barley numerate,
ha, yes I'm barely literate ....but I'm not an MP either (yet).
You could start the 'Barley Numerate Party'.
'Count on our Current Crop of Members'
'We won't leave you blowing in the Wind'
Can I do your PR?
The jobs yours!! Harvest as many votes as you can."lol | |||
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"As an independent? They begrudgingly have her back but consider her a liability no,?" Her original comments were crass and insensitive, and she deserves to be thrown out of the party, but I'm not sure actually they were meant to be anti-semitic. That debacle showed that she's not suitable for public office. | |||
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"She can certainly stand but Labour are not going to care about potentially missing 1 seat when public opinion about Conservatives is in the crapper." She didn't look well yesterday... if nothing else, I do admire the woman for never giving up. | |||
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"How she ever became an MP is a wonder or testament to politics.... She should go and crawl under a rock and know when to go rather than cling on ... The labour equivalent of Sunak ...the Tories must be willing her to spew more bile with them so far behind in the poles. She is as irrelevant as Corbyn is now ..both relevant to a different era ..the Worlds moved on ..." See… this is the problem You only see them both for example as national figures….. but as local mp’s both of them actually get a hell of a lot done.. and as local mps they are very effective and good at their jobs Even the bigger detractors in their constituencies will have a hard time conceding the they aren’t good at representing their constituents! There is a big reason why the local parties want to keep them! | |||
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"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party" There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable. | |||
"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable." You could blame Labour for moving so close to the Tories to make them electable that they're offing basically nothing new. Just a less self serving version of the same shit. It's the entire system that doesn't work in my opinion. No party offering any real change will be allowed anywhere near power. | |||
"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable." It does seem that way. Just seen that Angela rayner says there is no reason why Abbott can't stand in the election. Potential conflict with the boss if he does want a purge. | |||
"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable. You could blame Labour for moving so close to the Tories to make them electable that they're offing basically nothing new. Just a less self serving version of the same shit. It's the entire system that doesn't work in my opinion. No party offering any real change will be allowed anywhere near power. " Yes, you could criticise Labour for betraying their socialist roots, but then do the general public want pure socialism? Look what befell Corbyn. | |||
"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable. You could blame Labour for moving so close to the Tories to make them electable that they're offing basically nothing new. Just a less self serving version of the same shit. It's the entire system that doesn't work in my opinion. No party offering any real change will be allowed anywhere near power. Yes, you could criticise Labour for betraying their socialist roots, but then do the general public want pure socialism? Look what befell Corbyn." Labour have never offered pure socialism in my lifetime. Corbyn is a great example. He offered some real change, had a huge groundswell of supper, then the smear campaign destroyed him. No party offering any meaningful change will be allowed near power. | |||
"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable. You could blame Labour for moving so close to the Tories to make them electable that they're offing basically nothing new. Just a less self serving version of the same shit. It's the entire system that doesn't work in my opinion. No party offering any real change will be allowed anywhere near power. Yes, you could criticise Labour for betraying their socialist roots, but then do the general public want pure socialism? Look what befell Corbyn. Labour have never offered pure socialism in my lifetime. Corbyn is a great example. He offered some real change, had a huge groundswell of supper, then the smear campaign destroyed him. No party offering any meaningful change will be allowed near power." Corbyn did not need a smear campaign...he was definitely electable in a different country but not here.. | |||
"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable. You could blame Labour for moving so close to the Tories to make them electable that they're offing basically nothing new. Just a less self serving version of the same shit. It's the entire system that doesn't work in my opinion. No party offering any real change will be allowed anywhere near power. Yes, you could criticise Labour for betraying their socialist roots, but then do the general public want pure socialism? Look what befell Corbyn. Labour have never offered pure socialism in my lifetime. Corbyn is a great example. He offered some real change, had a huge groundswell of supper, then the smear campaign destroyed him. No party offering any meaningful change will be allowed near power." Corbyn destroyed Corbyn! He wasn't a leader or strategist, if he was he would have had a much better understanding of the mess the labour party were in, and yet he denied it and he fell | |||
"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable. You could blame Labour for moving so close to the Tories to make them electable that they're offing basically nothing new. Just a less self serving version of the same shit. It's the entire system that doesn't work in my opinion. No party offering any real change will be allowed anywhere near power. Yes, you could criticise Labour for betraying their socialist roots, but then do the general public want pure socialism? Look what befell Corbyn. Labour have never offered pure socialism in my lifetime. Corbyn is a great example. He offered some real change, had a huge groundswell of supper, then the smear campaign destroyed him. No party offering any meaningful change will be allowed near power. Corbyn destroyed Corbyn! He wasn't a leader or strategist, if he was he would have had a much better understanding of the mess the labour party were in, and yet he denied it and he fell" If you are interested, I'm guessing you're not, but you can read some good analysis of the smear campaign on medialens which is a great website. | |||
"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable. It does seem that way. Just seen that Angela rayner says there is no reason why Abbott can't stand in the election. Potential conflict with the boss if he does want a purge. " I find it strange Rayner is taking so many risks this close to the election. She is a loose canon and somebody Starmer should think of putting on the back benches, before she puts him there. | |||
"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable. You could blame Labour for moving so close to the Tories to make them electable that they're offing basically nothing new. Just a less self serving version of the same shit. It's the entire system that doesn't work in my opinion. No party offering any real change will be allowed anywhere near power. Yes, you could criticise Labour for betraying their socialist roots, but then do the general public want pure socialism? Look what befell Corbyn. Labour have never offered pure socialism in my lifetime. Corbyn is a great example. He offered some real change, had a huge groundswell of supper, then the smear campaign destroyed him. No party offering any meaningful change will be allowed near power. Corbyn destroyed Corbyn! He wasn't a leader or strategist, if he was he would have had a much better understanding of the mess the labour party were in, and yet he denied it and he fell If you are interested, I'm guessing you're not, but you can read some good analysis of the smear campaign on medialens which is a great website." There is always going to be campaigns against opponents, the problem was Corbyn gave them ammunition in many ways. I will take a look, I think I may have come across it before.  | |||
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"Could she stand? Can she stand? Its a lot to ask .. weight and see" Charming. | |||
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"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable. It does seem that way. Just seen that Angela rayner says there is no reason why Abbott can't stand in the election. Potential conflict with the boss if he does want a purge. " She's on a roll after being cleared and taking anyone on like a d*unk staggering out the pub, arms swinging wildly, shooting her mouth off. Her 83 year old neighbour is talking rubbish, the Tories are scum, Starmer is purging the left. It could get very messy! | |||
"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable. You could blame Labour for moving so close to the Tories to make them electable that they're offing basically nothing new. Just a less self serving version of the same shit. It's the entire system that doesn't work in my opinion. No party offering any real change will be allowed anywhere near power. Yes, you could criticise Labour for betraying their socialist roots, but then do the general public want pure socialism? Look what befell Corbyn. Labour have never offered pure socialism in my lifetime. Corbyn is a great example. He offered some real change, had a huge groundswell of supper, then the smear campaign destroyed him. No party offering any meaningful change will be allowed near power." When did he have this huge supper? Was it around the dinner table when he breached Rule of Six in covid? | |||
"Could she stand? Can she stand? Its a lot to ask .. weight and see" She's 70 and battling type 2. Be fair. | |||
"Looks like she is not the only one to potentially join Jezza as another Labour lady has been barred from standing, again due to alleged anti Semitic behaviour. Some are accusing SKS of a purge of the left in his party There's definitely a 'purge', or at least selective vetting of candidates. It's a moot point whether people vote for a good constituency MP or a broader view of party politics. You can't blame Starmer for making labour electable. You could blame Labour for moving so close to the Tories to make them electable that they're offing basically nothing new. Just a less self serving version of the same shit. It's the entire system that doesn't work in my opinion. No party offering any real change will be allowed anywhere near power. Yes, you could criticise Labour for betraying their socialist roots, but then do the general public want pure socialism? Look what befell Corbyn. Labour have never offered pure socialism in my lifetime. Corbyn is a great example. He offered some real change, had a huge groundswell of supper, then the smear campaign destroyed him. No party offering any meaningful change will be allowed near power. Corbyn destroyed Corbyn! He wasn't a leader or strategist, if he was he would have had a much better understanding of the mess the labour party were in, and yet he denied it and he fell If you are interested, I'm guessing you're not, but you can read some good analysis of the smear campaign on medialens which is a great website." Not heard of it, but will take a look - thanks | |||
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"The left of left are doing their best to narrow the gap between labour and tories. " The gap in policy/ideology or the gap in the polls? | |||
"The left of left are doing their best to narrow the gap between labour and tories. The gap in policy/ideology or the gap in the polls?" The gap in the polls. I have said this before, the biggest challenge to the size of the labour victory will be the labour party. | |||
"The left of left are doing their best to narrow the gap between labour and tories. The gap in policy/ideology or the gap in the polls? The gap in the polls. I have said this before, the biggest challenge to the size of the labour victory will be the labour party." We'll see. You know I'm skeptical of anything other than another Tory majority. | |||
"The left of left are doing their best to narrow the gap between labour and tories. The gap in policy/ideology or the gap in the polls? The gap in the polls. I have said this before, the biggest challenge to the size of the labour victory will be the labour party. We'll see. You know I'm skeptical of anything other than another Tory majority. " Labour will win the next GE. I don't think it will be a huge labour increase in votes that secures the win more of a decrease in votes for the tories as the traditional tory voters stay at home. However, if the left of left continue to make the headlines as they are doing right now, that could persuade a few tory voters off the sofa. | |||
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"Starmer has said Abbott is free to stand. Let's see if she does. have Tory prayers been answered? " Yep, embarrassing and this is why people will start to question if the tories really are a bad choice, when the left wing are pulling the strings like this. | |||
"Starmer has said Abbott is free to stand. Let's see if she does. have Tory prayers been answered? Yep, embarrassing and this is why people will start to question if the tories really are a bad choice, when the left wing are pulling the strings like this." I don't mind SKS but my concern is that he'll get labour elected and then be ousted by the far left. That's why I think he's been doing a bit of a purge and why Rayner has kicked back.. and the left has won | |||
"Starmer has said Abbott is free to stand. Let's see if she does. have Tory prayers been answered? Yep, embarrassing and this is why people will start to question if the tories really are a bad choice, when the left wing are pulling the strings like this. I don't mind SKS but my concern is that he'll get labour elected and then be ousted by the far left. That's why I think he's been doing a bit of a purge and why Rayner has kicked back.. and the left has won" I can see this happening, Rayner is jumping the gun along with momentum | |||
"Starmer has said Abbott is free to stand. Let's see if she does. have Tory prayers been answered? Yep, embarrassing and this is why people will start to question if the tories really are a bad choice, when the left wing are pulling the strings like this. I don't mind SKS but my concern is that he'll get labour elected and then be ousted by the far left. That's why I think he's been doing a bit of a purge and why Rayner has kicked back.. and the left has won I can see this happening, Rayner is jumping the gun along with momentum " This just confirms what we know about Capt. Hindsight, he constantly changes his mind and Angrier Rayner is in charge of the Labour Party. It's a taste of the dynamics to come if people let Labour in. | |||
"As an independent? They begrudgingly have her back but consider her a liability no,? Yes she could. She is 70 years old. Been an MP for 37 years. Has a big fan club and is viewed as a trail blazer. Had an affair with Jeremy Corbyn. I hope she stands down and retires. Probably not suited to the current Labour party. Sadly often people in all walks of life go on too long..." She has never been suited to any UK party. C | |||
"Starmer has said Abbott is free to stand. Let's see if she does. have Tory prayers been answered? Yep, embarrassing and this is why people will start to question if the tories really are a bad choice, when the left wing are pulling the strings like this. I don't mind SKS but my concern is that he'll get labour elected and then be ousted by the far left. That's why I think he's been doing a bit of a purge and why Rayner has kicked back.. and the left has won I can see this happening, Rayner is jumping the gun along with momentum This just confirms what we know about Capt. Hindsight, he constantly changes his mind and Angrier Rayner is in charge of the Labour Party. It's a taste of the dynamics to come if people let Labour in. " Rayner being in charge seems to be the line from the PM at present and maybe not far from the truth. Problem is apart from the left taking over is that if SKS can't stand up to his deputy, what's he going to be like on the world stage | |||
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"Should we bring back Boris.. We need someone to act as a superpower on the world stage"  | |||
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"Boris defeated Macron, Merkel, Junker, single handedly. " At Mario Cart? | |||
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"Having seen Diane Abbot on TV recently she really doesn’t look well. Having to be held up by supporters whilst standing on the town steps makes you wonder how fit she would really be to run as a local MP. She has had a good run and I think there is a time and place to let someone else take over but the old guard never seem to want to let go." So true | |||
"Having seen Diane Abbot on TV recently she really doesn’t look well. Having to be held up by supporters whilst standing on the town steps makes you wonder how fit she would really be to run as a local MP. She has had a good run and I think there is a time and place to let someone else take over but the old guard never seem to want to let go." yea i noticed that aswell, needed help walking up the steps and seemed to be shaking the whole time, she may well have been good for hackney but mabey time to give younger blood a go, but like u pointed out these politicians seem to want to stay on the gravy train well beyond when they should chuck it in | |||
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"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary." why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? | |||
"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ?" Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. | |||
"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. " She didn't even go to Eton FFS. How's she supposed to look down on ordinary people. | |||
"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. She didn't even go to Eton FFS. How's she supposed to look down on ordinary people. " Didn't-go-to-Eton-gate | |||
"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. " I don't look to presume and I don't believe the person I was asking is a regular here. For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary. That would make a lot of people dodgy. Even her other behaviours, while not great, I'd not call dodgy. But maybe that's semantics. They'd also not make me feel her being near power is scary. At least no scarier than any other person standing. Thays why I was interested in the other person's view. It gives as a spectrum of opinions. | |||
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"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. She didn't even go to Eton FFS. How's she supposed to look down on ordinary people. Didn't-go-to-Eton-gate" She may not have gone to Eton, but she's a bona fide Working Class Hero, and that's something to be.   | |||
"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. I don't look to presume and I don't believe the person I was asking is a regular here. For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary. That would make a lot of people dodgy. Even her other behaviours, while not great, I'd not call dodgy. But maybe that's semantics. They'd also not make me feel her being near power is scary. At least no scarier than any other person standing. Thays why I was interested in the other person's view. It gives as a spectrum of opinions. "Badly worded. I can't tell if you're agreeing, disagreeing or firmly wedged on that fence again. 'may have' - she has admitted shoplifting! Petty crime is not petty to the shopkeeper, society and other shoppers. And can you clarify this nonsense : "For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary" Do you approve of under-age sex? Do you approve of theft? Can you for once be clear? This is the office of Deputy Prime Minister she's got her eyes on. Capt Hindsight wants a clampdown on shoplifters if he gains power. It was all over the news last week, just as Rayner was admitting to her shoplifting past! Priceless timing! But do you support Flip Flop or Angrier for being candid? | |||
"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. She didn't even go to Eton FFS. How's she supposed to look down on ordinary people. Didn't-go-to-Eton-gate She may not have gone to Eton, but she's a bona fide Working Class Hero, and that's something to be. "She casually mentions shoplifting thinking it sounds cool to a lot of 16 year olds! They can come straight out of the Spar at 9pm with pilfered proceeds..... then proceed to the polling station. Scary and dodgy. | |||
"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. She didn't even go to Eton FFS. How's she supposed to look down on ordinary people. " She puts those red high heels on I guess? | |||
"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. I don't look to presume and I don't believe the person I was asking is a regular here. For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary. That would make a lot of people dodgy. Even her other behaviours, while not great, I'd not call dodgy. But maybe that's semantics. They'd also not make me feel her being near power is scary. At least no scarier than any other person standing. Thays why I was interested in the other person's view. It gives as a spectrum of opinions.
Badly worded. I can't tell if you're agreeing, disagreeing or firmly wedged on that fence again.
'may have' - she has admitted shoplifting! Petty crime is not petty to the shopkeeper, society and other shoppers.
And can you clarify this nonsense : "For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary"
Do you approve of under-age sex?
Do you approve of theft?
Can you for once be clear? This is the office of Deputy Prime Minister she's got her eyes on.
Capt Hindsight wants a clampdown on shoplifters if he gains power. It was all over the news last week, just as Rayner was admitting to her shoplifting past! Priceless timing! But do you support Flip Flop or Angrier for being candid? "i don't approve of undeagw sex. Nor shoplifting. However I also accept that kids make mistakes and that this doesn't make the adult they turn into dodgy, nor makes it scary for them to be in office. If that's the bar then hardly any of us could represent the people. There are elements of her that could be called out for hypocrisy. That may be a reason not to vote for her, but not the hyperbole. My opinion anyway. Hypocrisy and contradiction of views gets my goat. And she has done this. But it would be equally hypocritical to call her dodgy and scary for doing things we don't approve of, and show any support for MPs of other colours who have done similar or worse. Or not call everyone who has had sex under 16 or shoplifted dodgy. Of course I don't know your views on this. Nor the fella who used the terms in the first place. But was looking to understand their views. As mine, even tho I'm not pro Raynor, or even labour tbh, are she isn't dodgy (for those reasons) nor are those reasons to be scared to have her near power. | |||
"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. I don't look to presume and I don't believe the person I was asking is a regular here. For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary. That would make a lot of people dodgy. Even her other behaviours, while not great, I'd not call dodgy. But maybe that's semantics. They'd also not make me feel her being near power is scary. At least no scarier than any other person standing. Thays why I was interested in the other person's view. It gives as a spectrum of opinions.
Badly worded. I can't tell if you're agreeing, disagreeing or firmly wedged on that fence again.
'may have' - she has admitted shoplifting! Petty crime is not petty to the shopkeeper, society and other shoppers.
And can you clarify this nonsense : "For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary"
Do you approve of under-age sex?
Do you approve of theft?
Can you for once be clear? This is the office of Deputy Prime Minister she's got her eyes on.
Capt Hindsight wants a clampdown on shoplifters if he gains power. It was all over the news last week, just as Rayner was admitting to her shoplifting past! Priceless timing! But do you support Flip Flop or Angrier for being candid? i don't approve of undeagw sex. Nor shoplifting.
However I also accept that kids make mistakes and that this doesn't make the adult they turn into dodgy, nor makes it scary for them to be in office.
If that's the bar then hardly any of us could represent the people.
There are elements of her that could be called out for hypocrisy. That may be a reason not to vote for her, but not the hyperbole. My opinion anyway.
Hypocrisy and contradiction of views gets my goat. And she has done this.
But it would be equally hypocritical to call her dodgy and scary for doing things we don't approve of, and show any support for MPs of other colours who have done similar or worse.
Or not call everyone who has had sex under 16 or shoplifted dodgy.
Of course I don't know your views on this. Nor the fella who used the terms in the first place. But was looking to understand their views. As mine, even tho I'm not pro Raynor, or even labour tbh, are she isn't dodgy (for those reasons) nor are those reasons to be scared to have her near power.
"So having 'turned into an adult' she simply refines her nefarious activities to dodgy expense claims, only paying them back when the Sun unearths them. It's a mindset with this woman - I want what you have and I'm going to get it. I'll scream Tory scum if you try to stop me. If the Press gets a sniff, only then will I admit anything, pay anything back, admit I was at Currygate, but if I can get away with it, I will. I'll use time-barred statutes if necessary! I'll let you think my 83 year old neighbour is a nasty Tory liar. I'll use every trick in the book if necessary, I'll even cross my legs in front of the Prime Minister if it puts him off. You're happy with this as Deputy Prime Minister? | |||
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"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. I don't look to presume and I don't believe the person I was asking is a regular here. For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary. That would make a lot of people dodgy. Even her other behaviours, while not great, I'd not call dodgy. But maybe that's semantics. They'd also not make me feel her being near power is scary. At least no scarier than any other person standing. Thays why I was interested in the other person's view. It gives as a spectrum of opinions.
Badly worded. I can't tell if you're agreeing, disagreeing or firmly wedged on that fence again.
'may have' - she has admitted shoplifting! Petty crime is not petty to the shopkeeper, society and other shoppers.
And can you clarify this nonsense : "For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary"
Do you approve of under-age sex?
Do you approve of theft?
Can you for once be clear? This is the office of Deputy Prime Minister she's got her eyes on.
Capt Hindsight wants a clampdown on shoplifters if he gains power. It was all over the news last week, just as Rayner was admitting to her shoplifting past! Priceless timing! But do you support Flip Flop or Angrier for being candid? i don't approve of undeagw sex. Nor shoplifting.
However I also accept that kids make mistakes and that this doesn't make the adult they turn into dodgy, nor makes it scary for them to be in office.
If that's the bar then hardly any of us could represent the people.
There are elements of her that could be called out for hypocrisy. That may be a reason not to vote for her, but not the hyperbole. My opinion anyway.
Hypocrisy and contradiction of views gets my goat. And she has done this.
But it would be equally hypocritical to call her dodgy and scary for doing things we don't approve of, and show any support for MPs of other colours who have done similar or worse.
Or not call everyone who has had sex under 16 or shoplifted dodgy.
Of course I don't know your views on this. Nor the fella who used the terms in the first place. But was looking to understand their views. As mine, even tho I'm not pro Raynor, or even labour tbh, are she isn't dodgy (for those reasons) nor are those reasons to be scared to have her near power.
So having 'turned into an adult' she simply refines her nefarious activities to dodgy expense claims, only paying them back when the Sun unearths them. It's a mindset with this woman - I want what you have and I'm going to get it. I'll scream Tory scum if you try to stop me. If the Press gets a sniff, only then will I admit anything, pay anything back, admit I was at Currygate, but if I can get away with it, I will. I'll use time-barred statutes if necessary! I'll let you think my 83 year old neighbour is a nasty Tory liar. I'll use every trick in the book if necessary, I'll even cross my legs in front of the Prime Minister if it puts him off.
You're happy with this as Deputy Prime Minister?
"the trouble with our MOs ATM is this is the best we have. But I'd not say she's horrid or it's scary to have her near power. Not based on your points. I understand you do. I hear the emotion. I hear similar emotion against Tories. But imo your points get undermined when you bring in teen pregnancy and then crossing the legs against her. Just an opinion. And she didn't use time barred, even if that was why she didn't get charged. Odd wording imo. | |||
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"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. I don't look to presume and I don't believe the person I was asking is a regular here. For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary. That would make a lot of people dodgy. Even her other behaviours, while not great, I'd not call dodgy. But maybe that's semantics. They'd also not make me feel her being near power is scary. At least no scarier than any other person standing. Thays why I was interested in the other person's view. It gives as a spectrum of opinions.
Badly worded. I can't tell if you're agreeing, disagreeing or firmly wedged on that fence again.
'may have' - she has admitted shoplifting! Petty crime is not petty to the shopkeeper, society and other shoppers.
And can you clarify this nonsense : "For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary"
Do you approve of under-age sex?
Do you approve of theft?
Can you for once be clear? This is the office of Deputy Prime Minister she's got her eyes on.
Capt Hindsight wants a clampdown on shoplifters if he gains power. It was all over the news last week, just as Rayner was admitting to her shoplifting past! Priceless timing! But do you support Flip Flop or Angrier for being candid? i don't approve of undeagw sex. Nor shoplifting.
However I also accept that kids make mistakes and that this doesn't make the adult they turn into dodgy, nor makes it scary for them to be in office.
If that's the bar then hardly any of us could represent the people.
There are elements of her that could be called out for hypocrisy. That may be a reason not to vote for her, but not the hyperbole. My opinion anyway.
Hypocrisy and contradiction of views gets my goat. And she has done this.
But it would be equally hypocritical to call her dodgy and scary for doing things we don't approve of, and show any support for MPs of other colours who have done similar or worse.
Or not call everyone who has had sex under 16 or shoplifted dodgy.
Of course I don't know your views on this. Nor the fella who used the terms in the first place. But was looking to understand their views. As mine, even tho I'm not pro Raynor, or even labour tbh, are she isn't dodgy (for those reasons) nor are those reasons to be scared to have her near power.
So having 'turned into an adult' she simply refines her nefarious activities to dodgy expense claims, only paying them back when the Sun unearths them. It's a mindset with this woman - I want what you have and I'm going to get it. I'll scream Tory scum if you try to stop me. If the Press gets a sniff, only then will I admit anything, pay anything back, admit I was at Currygate, but if I can get away with it, I will. I'll use time-barred statutes if necessary! I'll let you think my 83 year old neighbour is a nasty Tory liar. I'll use every trick in the book if necessary, I'll even cross my legs in front of the Prime Minister if it puts him off.
You're happy with this as Deputy Prime Minister?
the trouble with our MOs ATM is this is the best we have.
But I'd not say she's horrid or it's scary to have her near power. Not based on your points.
I understand you do. I hear the emotion. I hear similar emotion against Tories.
But imo your points get undermined when you bring in teen pregnancy and then crossing the legs against her. Just an opinion.
And she didn't use time barred, even if that was why she didn't get charged. Odd wording imo.
"On the fence again! You don't dispute any of the sleaze she's mired in, the wrongdoing she's got up to, you just seem to excuse it on age grounds or that it's the best we can do in current times! Are you or are you not happy with Rayner becoming Deputy Prime minister? Yesterday, she was jumping out of her bus, like a nightclub singer in trainers, going full on Kumbaya about the 'no nuclear deterrent' world she dreams of, whilst Flip Flop was to his credit committed to it (for now) surrounded by Veterans.. she is one scary, dodgy loose cannon I tell you! | |||
" Yesterday, she was jumping out of her bus, like a nightclub singer in trainers, going full on Kumbaya about the 'no nuclear deterrent' world she dreams of, whilst Flip Flop was to his credit committed to it (for now) surrounded by Veterans.. she is one scary, dodgy loose cannon I tell you!" Wow! Only a couple of days ago posters were claiming she couldn't stand up, needed help walking up stairs and was shaking rather than dancing... Or has this thread morphed into irrelevant ramblings about someone else?  | |||
" Yesterday, she was jumping out of her bus, like a nightclub singer in trainers, going full on Kumbaya about the 'no nuclear deterrent' world she dreams of, whilst Flip Flop was to his credit committed to it (for now) surrounded by Veterans.. she is one scary, dodgy loose cannon I tell you! Wow! Only a couple of days ago posters were claiming she couldn't stand up, needed help walking up stairs and was shaking rather than dancing... Or has this thread morphed into irrelevant ramblings about someone else? "there now talking about vicki pollard ooops i meen angela rayner | |||
" Yesterday, she was jumping out of her bus, like a nightclub singer in trainers, going full on Kumbaya about the 'no nuclear deterrent' world she dreams of, whilst Flip Flop was to his credit committed to it (for now) surrounded by Veterans.. she is one scary, dodgy loose cannon I tell you! Wow! Only a couple of days ago posters were claiming she couldn't stand up, needed help walking up stairs and was shaking rather than dancing... Or has this thread morphed into irrelevant ramblings about someone else? "I think it's fascinating. You can usually guess where some posters get their "news" from. | |||
" Yesterday, she was jumping out of her bus, like a nightclub singer in trainers, going full on Kumbaya about the 'no nuclear deterrent' world she dreams of, whilst Flip Flop was to his credit committed to it (for now) surrounded by Veterans.. she is one scary, dodgy loose cannon I tell you! Wow! Only a couple of days ago posters were claiming she couldn't stand up, needed help walking up stairs and was shaking rather than dancing... Or has this thread morphed into irrelevant ramblings about someone else? "The thread has simply raised another Labour MP's activities, as can happen here. Only a few days ago, have you forgotten that on the Braverman thread, you sashayed from Suella to Sunak in one short sentence. It happens. I didn't accuse you of 'rambling'. | |||
"The thought of "dodgy" Rainer in charge is scary.why's is she "dodgy". And what makes it scary ? Here's another unconvincing 'why' and 'what' poster who's here enough to know the concerns Self-confessed shoplifter Failed to wait until 16 for sex Last year, she was forced to defend putting Apple electronics on expenses despite regularly calling out Conservative politicians. When contacted by the Sun, she paid some back. Forgot she was at Beergate, then it was 'remembered' when a video emerged of her at the contraversial curry do. Indirectly infers her neighbours are liars. Multiple newspapers have found multiple neighbours who contradict her account of who was living where and when in the Taxgate affair; old tweets show Rayner herself calling the house (that she claims not to have lived in) her home. A time-bar seems to have got her off the hook. She looks like an uncouth Denise Royle, fag in mouth, regularly spewing profane language at the Tories, rather than a senior member of His Majesty's next Government. The irony is Captain Hindsight can’t stand her and will be glad to get rid, but it will take time and she will have influence until that point. That's scary. She's dodgy. I don't look to presume and I don't believe the person I was asking is a regular here. For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary. That would make a lot of people dodgy. Even her other behaviours, while not great, I'd not call dodgy. But maybe that's semantics. They'd also not make me feel her being near power is scary. At least no scarier than any other person standing. Thays why I was interested in the other person's view. It gives as a spectrum of opinions.
Badly worded. I can't tell if you're agreeing, disagreeing or firmly wedged on that fence again.
'may have' - she has admitted shoplifting! Petty crime is not petty to the shopkeeper, society and other shoppers.
And can you clarify this nonsense : "For me, someone who has undersge sex and may have shoplifftee once at 16 is dodgy or that them now being part of government is scary"
Do you approve of under-age sex?
Do you approve of theft?
Can you for once be clear? This is the office of Deputy Prime Minister she's got her eyes on.
Capt Hindsight wants a clampdown on shoplifters if he gains power. It was all over the news last week, just as Rayner was admitting to her shoplifting past! Priceless timing! But do you support Flip Flop or Angrier for being candid? i don't approve of undeagw sex. Nor shoplifting.
However I also accept that kids make mistakes and that this doesn't make the adult they turn into dodgy, nor makes it scary for them to be in office.
If that's the bar then hardly any of us could represent the people.
There are elements of her that could be called out for hypocrisy. That may be a reason not to vote for her, but not the hyperbole. My opinion anyway.
Hypocrisy and contradiction of views gets my goat. And she has done this.
But it would be equally hypocritical to call her dodgy and scary for doing things we don't approve of, and show any support for MPs of other colours who have done similar or worse.
Or not call everyone who has had sex under 16 or shoplifted dodgy.
Of course I don't know your views on this. Nor the fella who used the terms in the first place. But was looking to understand their views. As mine, even tho I'm not pro Raynor, or even labour tbh, are she isn't dodgy (for those reasons) nor are those reasons to be scared to have her near power.
So having 'turned into an adult' she simply refines her nefarious activities to dodgy expense claims, only paying them back when the Sun unearths them. It's a mindset with this woman - I want what you have and I'm going to get it. I'll scream Tory scum if you try to stop me. If the Press gets a sniff, only then will I admit anything, pay anything back, admit I was at Currygate, but if I can get away with it, I will. I'll use time-barred statutes if necessary! I'll let you think my 83 year old neighbour is a nasty Tory liar. I'll use every trick in the book if necessary, I'll even cross my legs in front of the Prime Minister if it puts him off.
You're happy with this as Deputy Prime Minister?
the trouble with our MOs ATM is this is the best we have.
But I'd not say she's horrid or it's scary to have her near power. Not based on your points.
I understand you do. I hear the emotion. I hear similar emotion against Tories.
But imo your points get undermined when you bring in teen pregnancy and then crossing the legs against her. Just an opinion.
And she didn't use time barred, even if that was why she didn't get charged. Odd wording imo.
On the fence again! You don't dispute any of the sleaze she's mired in, the wrongdoing she's got up to, you just seem to excuse it on age grounds or that it's the best we can do in current times! Are you or are you not happy with Rayner becoming Deputy Prime minister?
Yesterday, she was jumping out of her bus, like a nightclub singer in trainers, going full on Kumbaya about the 'no nuclear deterrent' world she dreams of, whilst Flip Flop was to his credit committed to it (for now) surrounded by Veterans.. she is one scary, dodgy loose cannon I tell you!"I'm not on the fence. I simply am comfortable with nuance. I condone shoplifting. But wouldn't go as far as saying shoplifting as a kid makes you a scary choice to hold a position or office in government. I hold a similar view on the use of cocaine, affairs, other matters, even if they happened more recently and not when still deemed a child. I don't have strong views on her as a person to say happy or not. I don't think it's scary for her to be Deputy PM. I'd not be celebrating her being deputy PM. Same as the current deputy. Indeed I would have probably had the same view of Raab, albeit it was right he was removed on light of bullying allegations. Not everything needs outrage. I'd save that for where I feel it's deserved otherwise it loses impact. This doesn't warrant such intense language in my view. | |||
"I condone shoplifting. ..." I'm guessing you mean "condemn". | |||
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"I condone shoplifting. ... I'm guessing you mean "condemn"." lol, yes indeed ! I do maths, not English ! | |||
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" Yesterday, she was jumping out of her bus, like a nightclub singer in trainers, going full on Kumbaya about the 'no nuclear deterrent' world she dreams of, whilst Flip Flop was to his credit committed to it (for now) surrounded by Veterans.. she is one scary, dodgy loose cannon I tell you! Wow! Only a couple of days ago posters were claiming she couldn't stand up, needed help walking up stairs and was shaking rather than dancing... Or has this thread morphed into irrelevant ramblings about someone else?
The thread has simply raised another Labour MP's activities, as can happen here. Only a few days ago, have you forgotten that on the Braverman thread, you sashayed from Suella to Sunak in one short sentence. It happens. I didn't accuse you of 'rambling'.
"Not true. My post said that BOTH Suella and Sunak tried unsuccessfully to get The Met to change its policing methods specifically for the Pro-Palestine marches. Perfectly in context for that thread which was about Braverman being humilated by a bunch of students. I love running rings around you. Next | |||
"As an independent? They begrudgingly have her back but consider her a liability no,?" She couldn’t run a bath! | |||
" Yesterday, she was jumping out of her bus, like a nightclub singer in trainers, going full on Kumbaya about the 'no nuclear deterrent' world she dreams of, whilst Flip Flop was to his credit committed to it (for now) surrounded by Veterans.. she is one scary, dodgy loose cannon I tell you! Wow! Only a couple of days ago posters were claiming she couldn't stand up, needed help walking up stairs and was shaking rather than dancing... Or has this thread morphed into irrelevant ramblings about someone else?
The thread has simply raised another Labour MP's activities, as can happen here. Only a few days ago, have you forgotten that on the Braverman thread, you sashayed from Suella to Sunak in one short sentence. It happens. I didn't accuse you of 'rambling'.
Not true. My post said that BOTH Suella and Sunak tried unsuccessfully to get The Met to change its policing methods specifically for the Pro-Palestine marches. Perfectly in context for that thread which was about Braverman being humilated by a bunch of students.
I love running rings around you. Next "I said I didn't think Abbott was fit for public office. I don't think Rayner is either. In context. 'running rings' lol Next! | |||
