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So if you were writing a party manifesto what woudl it contain?
Starters for 10:
Defence:
3.5% of GDP rising to 5% over 10 years, army back to 120K, and procurement focussed on buying already developed US platforms instead of wasting money developing our own.
Law & Order
Build more prisons, increase Cat A capacity and increase sentences - prisons focus on education and purposeful activity. Life sentences tariff to start at 45 years (not 25). Create a National Police Force that incorporates serious & organised crime, anti-terror, border control and public order (buying a useable amount of water cannon!) and amalgamates all of the small specialist forces (transport police, civil nuclear constabulary etc) under one uniformed cap badge.
NHS:
Give significant tax breaks to people who have their own private health insurance so that the NHS is still funded for improvement while relieving pressure on the system by encouraging those who can to go private. Move to a social insurance model of a mixed delivery economy like (all those far-right countries who want their poor to die on the streets) Spain, Germany, Switzerland, Greece etc.
Education
Compulsory schooling to 18, focus on STEM and standards. Return to streamed system with grammar/technical colleges and have solid technical alternatives to A level. Reduce the number of university places by closing poor quality universities offering mickey mouse degrees. Invest in proper apprenticeships.
Immigration
2 out = 1 in. Offshore processing the norm for asylum claims and removal of anyone here claiming asylum whose case has not been approved and are playing the system with multiple appeals. Close all appeals loopholes. Shut down the “pull factors” - no housing, payments, access to health or education. Anyone arriving on these shores except from an approved mechanism immediately processed and returned from the starting point of the last leg of their journey here. If you are here legally, compulsory English lessons to stay (this protects immigrants from exploitation - especially women from muslim cultures where men dominate).
Democracy
Move to a system of PR rather than first-past-the-post. Wholesale reform of the Lords to stop political parties stuffing the benches.
Abolish regional /devolved assemblies and waste of money/space offices like PCC and rationalise local government so we have one system (getting rid of the mix of unitary and terciary) making local government more effective. Reforms the civil service to make senior appointments “political” i.e appointed by the minister so that the CS enacts the will of the ministers in charge so that it is clear who runs the country and that we get what we vote for not the agenda of the CS.
Tax
Radically reduce it. Abolish NI (it’s just an income tax anyway) and rationalise the income tax system so you just pay 1 form of income tax with multiple, progressive banding. IHT to start at £1m and vastly reduced from 40% (say 5%) between £1m-5m exempting houses worth less than £1.5m. Reduce corp tax and abolish IR35. Require every retail purchase to show price ex-VAT so there is visibility of how much hidden tax is paid. Move everyone to self-assessment so they “feel” the tax they are paying to hold governments to account for wastage.
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By *irldnCouple 18 weeks ago
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A paragraph just for me saying my personal taxation, including IHT and CGT, is being reduced to zero because I am such a good egg! 
Barring that, a cast iron commitment to removing corruption and cronyism would be a great start. |
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"A paragraph just for me saying my personal taxation, including IHT and CGT, is being reduced to zero because I am such a good egg!
Barring that, a cast iron commitment to removing corruption and cronyism would be a great start."
That would be good.
For me it would like to see corporate donations to politicians, and donations from CEOs/wives of CEOs etc to be made illegal. (This would inherently solve a lot of our current issues and get the government working in the interests of the country and of the British people for a change).
I'd like to see second jobs for MPs made illegal, to remove conflicts of interest, and to remove them from hosting "news" TV shows.
I'd like to see a comment to actually tackling real issues instead of the divide and conquer rhetoric that blames foreigners, poor people, homeless people, people who eat tofu, etc etc (the list of people the government has tried to shift blame on to is looonnnggg).
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By *irldnCouple 18 weeks ago
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"A paragraph just for me saying my personal taxation, including IHT and CGT, is being reduced to zero because I am such a good egg!
Barring that, a cast iron commitment to removing corruption and cronyism would be a great start.
That would be good.
For me it would like to see corporate donations to politicians, and donations from CEOs/wives of CEOs etc to be made illegal. (This would inherently solve a lot of our current issues and get the government working in the interests of the country and of the British people for a change).
I'd like to see second jobs for MPs made illegal, to remove conflicts of interest, and to remove them from hosting "news" TV shows.
I'd like to see a comment to actually tackling real issues instead of the divide and conquer rhetoric that blames foreigners, poor people, homeless people, people who eat tofu, etc etc (the list of people the government has tried to shift blame on to is looonnnggg).
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Agree re MP second jobs but I would dramatically increase MP and Minister salaries to make them attractive in and of themselves rather than a door opener to personal enrichment. Also MPs MUST be from (last two years) their constituency and MUST live in constituency. Set up an MP campus in Westminster so no need for 2nd homes and expenses/flipping. |
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Great question.
I'm not sure I have policies per se, but I'd start with where the we should be focussing
Housing: a plan to build even if it means bursting the bubble. Imo we need to support more compact loving without creating projects. Singapore manages it.
Health Care: a wider focus beyond hospitals. Non emergency Care should be focus.
Review of UC and other low income benefits such as carers allowance. The system is designed to prevent payments and has features that trap people. Any party that promotes social mobility and leaves this wealth trap in is disingenuous.
Honest discussion on immigration. It's not black and white. And the focus should be on thode coming via visas rather than refugees. I'm in favour of lower immigration but we need to accept this forms at a cost or a need for UK investment.
Investment in UKs future. Education, Apprenticeships. In work training. Supporting the promotion of key careers (eg nurse, care, teachers). Our education should be partly driven by business not politicians. Debate and creativity rather than learning facts by rote.
Honest discussion about cost of pensions and long term care. It's a time bomb that will blow out the water most policies, such as immigration, NHS, etc. |
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I'd like to see second jobs for MPs made illegal, to remove conflicts of interest, and to remove them from hosting "news" TV shows.
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Does that also go for the likes of David Lammy given he had a programme of his own on LBC, or do you just think that should only apply to TV stations with an editorial tone you dislike? |
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"A paragraph just for me saying my personal taxation, including IHT and CGT, is being reduced to zero because I am such a good egg!
Barring that, a cast iron commitment to removing corruption and cronyism would be a great start.
That would be good.
For me it would like to see corporate donations to politicians, and donations from CEOs/wives of CEOs etc to be made illegal. (This would inherently solve a lot of our current issues and get the government working in the interests of the country and of the British people for a change).
I'd like to see second jobs for MPs made illegal, to remove conflicts of interest, and to remove them from hosting "news" TV shows.
I'd like to see a comment to actually tackling real issues instead of the divide and conquer rhetoric that blames foreigners, poor people, homeless people, people who eat tofu, etc etc (the list of people the government has tried to shift blame on to is looonnnggg).
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I don't know about banning second jobs outright, several have professions such as Dr, Nurse, Lawyer etc that require certain hours done per year.
About 10 years ago the GP in the practice I used was the local MP and while I didn't agree with her politics she was a first rate physician.
Again very different for lawyers who might be doing pro-bono work for their firm compared to someone doing private work charging £350+ an hour.
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I'd like to see second jobs for MPs made illegal, to remove conflicts of interest, and to remove them from hosting "news" TV shows.
Does that also go for the likes of David Lammy given he had a programme of his own on LBC,
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Yes of course, 100%
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or do you just think that should only apply to TV stations with an editorial tone you dislike?"
No, why would you think that?
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I'd like to see second jobs for MPs made illegal, to remove conflicts of interest, and to remove them from hosting "news" TV shows.
Does that also go for the likes of David Lammy given he had a programme of his own on LBC, or do you just think that should only apply to TV stations with an editorial tone you dislike?"
And actually there are rules regarding what they can present and old JRM and GB news have been cautioned about this by OfCom several times. |
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"A paragraph just for me saying my personal taxation, including IHT and CGT, is being reduced to zero because I am such a good egg!
Barring that, a cast iron commitment to removing corruption and cronyism would be a great start.
That would be good.
For me it would like to see corporate donations to politicians, and donations from CEOs/wives of CEOs etc to be made illegal. (This would inherently solve a lot of our current issues and get the government working in the interests of the country and of the British people for a change).
I'd like to see second jobs for MPs made illegal, to remove conflicts of interest, and to remove them from hosting "news" TV shows.
I'd like to see a comment to actually tackling real issues instead of the divide and conquer rhetoric that blames foreigners, poor people, homeless people, people who eat tofu, etc etc (the list of people the government has tried to shift blame on to is looonnnggg).
I don't know about banning second jobs outright, several have professions such as Dr, Nurse, Lawyer etc that require certain hours done per year.
About 10 years ago the GP in the practice I used was the local MP and while I didn't agree with her politics she was a first rate physician.
Again very different for lawyers who might be doing pro-bono work for their firm compared to someone doing private work charging £350+ an hour.
Look so many things it's hard to deal in absolutes"
There are times it makes sense. But it causes a lot of conflict of interest when they own large portions of investment firms, or work in the media. |
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Honest discussion about cost of pensions and long term care. It's a time bomb that will blow out the water most policies, such as immigration, NHS, etc. "
I would say the reason I’m not optimistic about this happening is due to the first-past-the-post system creating what is in effect a 2 party option in most of E&W (and to an extent Scotland between SNP/Labour). It creates the narrative that sets the bar in terms of how much money is pumped into an unreformed, poorly run and dysfunctional NHS & care system that was designed for the UK of 70 years ago and has remained frozen in time with only a few tweaks around the edges. Any attempts by the Tories to meaningfully reform it is met by shrieks of horror - which just scares both voters and politicians, or the hand-tying by the vested interests of the Unions by Labour (plus their ideological conviction of large state intervention and central control).
A well-thought out system of reform of the HoL to a smaller (with fixed numbers, say 200) and accountable chamber which is mostly elected (like a Senate on 1stPtP) with a few indpendent appointees and a Commons elected by a system of PR would force the issue.
If, as suspected, Reform has support from broadly 18% of the population and gets no seats under 1PtP, a system of PR would mean there would have to be real debate and compromise as it would force the Tories to stop trying to be a “broad church” of centrists arguing with Labour about the definition of the centre ground where both parties tear themselves to shreds from the centre-left and the far-left respectively and you get greater deliniation of policy and more political parties representing different elements of the spectrum. |
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I'm a fan of PR and collaborative politics. As much as I don't agree with ukip/reform policies it's not right they don't have a voice.
I'm not convinced about Tory NHS reform. Partly because I think they are too hyper focused on certain areas. I've not seen anything that suggests a braid review.
Unfortunately where the Tories have faced into some of challenges they have quickly rowed back as soon as they hit any form of resistance. Eg the NI increase.
And noone seems to want to look at the evert increasing cost of state pension. |
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"I'm a fan of PR and collaborative politics. As much as I don't agree with ukip/reform policies it's not right they don't have a voice.
And noone seems to want to look at the evert increasing cost of state pension. "
The problem with the Tories is they are too broad so as soon as any sensible policy discussion starts they tear themselves to shreds. They need to split into centre-right/centre-left parties to survive. The reason they don’t is the centre-right fear the consequences of 1PtP and the loss of the brand behind them, and the centre-left have seen what happened with the formation of the Lib Dems - they did ok in some areas as a party of constant protest and manifest local nuisance but as soon as they get near power their support evaporates because (frankly in my view) they attract mostly people who want to permanently protest but never actually do anything about the issues they protest about.
For PR to work you would have to shift the geographical representation up to the HoL (so they would deal with the casework, but accepting that fewer in the HoL means bigger staff teams - but at least they could be employed by the Cabinet Office to avoid employing spouses/children) which is common in other parliaments and then elect the Commons in proportion to the popular vote - so if there are broadly 660 seats and Reform poll 18% they get 12 seats in the Commons, ditto other parties.
Then you will get real policy debate. In the current climate you would likely see a bloc of centre-right parties dominate until there is a grip of the economy, immigration and self-determination, defence and law and order, all of which seem to be being ignored by Tories/Labour whose priorities are well at odds with normal people’s concerns. Once you have a country where people feel safe leaving their homes, criminals are banged up and our borders and defence safe, then you can get to the social issues of health and long term care.
As for pension reform, we would have to shift the economy so that people keep more of what they earn so that they can invest in their own retirement - but also be encouraged to stop seeing the state as being financially responsible for them through reducing taxation/public spend and increasing self-reliance on insurance and savings. The only way this is going to work is if people trust politicians in the long term not to invest/save now only to see a governemnt take power in 20 years that does a Gordon Brown and raids pensions pots. That one act has made many people like me in their 40’s/50’s sceptical about trusting Labour ever again. |
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"I'm a fan of PR and collaborative politics. As much as I don't agree with ukip/reform policies it's not right they don't have a voice.
And noone seems to want to look at the evert increasing cost of state pension.
The problem with the Tories is they are too broad so as soon as any sensible policy discussion starts they tear themselves to shreds. They need to split into centre-right/centre-left parties to survive. The reason they don’t is the centre-right fear the consequences of 1PtP and the loss of the brand behind them, and the centre-left have seen what happened with the formation of the Lib Dems - they did ok in some areas as a party of constant protest and manifest local nuisance but as soon as they get near power their support evaporates because (frankly in my view) they attract mostly people who want to permanently protest but never actually do anything about the issues they protest about.
For PR to work you would have to shift the geographical representation up to the HoL (so they would deal with the casework, but accepting that fewer in the HoL means bigger staff teams - but at least they could be employed by the Cabinet Office to avoid employing spouses/children) which is common in other parliaments and then elect the Commons in proportion to the popular vote - so if there are broadly 660 seats and Reform poll 18% they get 12 seats in the Commons, ditto other parties.
Then you will get real policy debate. In the current climate you would likely see a bloc of centre-right parties dominate until there is a grip of the economy, immigration and self-determination, defence and law and order, all of which seem to be being ignored by Tories/Labour whose priorities are well at odds with normal people’s concerns. Once you have a country where people feel safe leaving their homes, criminals are banged up and our borders and defence safe, then you can get to the social issues of health and long term care.
As for pension reform, we would have to shift the economy so that people keep more of what they earn so that they can invest in their own retirement - but also be encouraged to stop seeing the state as being financially responsible for them through reducing taxation/public spend and increasing self-reliance on insurance and savings. The only way this is going to work is if people trust politicians in the long term not to invest/save now only to see a governemnt take power in 20 years that does a Gordon Brown and raids pensions pots. That one act has made many people like me in their 40’s/50’s sceptical about trusting Labour ever again. "
agree on Tories. Reform is bringing that to light !
If make HoL a more professional/expert chamber. That's a role it is good at. Less populsim. More detailed.
I wonder whether priorities are led by media or the parties. On QT people raided different areas that were not the usual ones. Some parties trade on fear. See how much the (anti) woke agenda gets used. Do people care more about sorting out health care or defining a women?
I agree with your direction in pensions. But that's a challenge as those of us who are having to be self sufficient also have to find the current cohorts. We can't keep more and also pay for the current and short term bill that's coming.
It's tricky. We are a sandwich generation.
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"So if you were writing a party manifesto what woudl it contain?
Starters for 10:
Defence:
3.5% of GDP rising to 5% over 10 years, army back to 120K, and procurement focussed on buying already developed US platforms instead of wasting money developing our own.
Law & Order
Build more prisons, increase Cat A capacity and increase sentences - prisons focus on education and purposeful activity. Life sentences tariff to start at 45 years (not 25). Create a National Police Force that incorporates serious & organised crime, anti-terror, border control and public order (buying a useable amount of water cannon!) and amalgamates all of the small specialist forces (transport police, civil nuclear constabulary etc) under one uniformed cap badge.
NHS:
Give significant tax breaks to people who have their own private health insurance so that the NHS is still funded for improvement while relieving pressure on the system by encouraging those who can to go private. Move to a social insurance model of a mixed delivery economy like (all those far-right countries who want their poor to die on the streets) Spain, Germany, Switzerland, Greece etc.
Education
Compulsory schooling to 18, focus on STEM and standards. Return to streamed system with grammar/technical colleges and have solid technical alternatives to A level. Reduce the number of university places by closing poor quality universities offering mickey mouse degrees. Invest in proper apprenticeships.
Immigration
2 out = 1 in. Offshore processing the norm for asylum claims and removal of anyone here claiming asylum whose case has not been approved and are playing the system with multiple appeals. Close all appeals loopholes. Shut down the “pull factors” - no housing, payments, access to health or education. Anyone arriving on these shores except from an approved mechanism immediately processed and returned from the starting point of the last leg of their journey here. If you are here legally, compulsory English lessons to stay (this protects immigrants from exploitation - especially women from muslim cultures where men dominate).
Democracy
Move to a system of PR rather than first-past-the-post. Wholesale reform of the Lords to stop political parties stuffing the benches.
Abolish regional /devolved assemblies and waste of money/space offices like PCC and rationalise local government so we have one system (getting rid of the mix of unitary and terciary) making local government more effective. Reforms the civil service to make senior appointments “political” i.e appointed by the minister so that the CS enacts the will of the ministers in charge so that it is clear who runs the country and that we get what we vote for not the agenda of the CS.
Tax
Radically reduce it. Abolish NI (it’s just an income tax anyway) and rationalise the income tax system so you just pay 1 form of income tax with multiple, progressive banding. IHT to start at £1m and vastly reduced from 40% (say 5%) between £1m-5m exempting houses worth less than £1.5m. Reduce corp tax and abolish IR35. Require every retail purchase to show price ex-VAT so there is visibility of how much hidden tax is paid. Move everyone to self-assessment so they “feel” the tax they are paying to hold governments to account for wastage.
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I don't have any issues other than PR. It's a nice idea in principle but in practice it's not for me. |
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"Free everything for everybody. There, I've written the Labour manifesto for them. But w hat should the Tory version be?
Tax the poor and give it to the rich, of course."
Job done!! SNP, LibDems and Greens now. |
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"Free everything for everybody. There, I've written the Labour manifesto for them. But w hat should the Tory version be?
Tax the poor and give it to the rich, of course.
Job done!! SNP, LibDems and Greens now."
Lib Dem’s - look after the poor people, just far away from us and not if it inconveniences us in any real sense. |
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"So if you were writing a party manifesto what woudl it contain?
Starters for 10:
Defence:
3.5% of GDP rising to 5% over 10 years, army back to 120K, and procurement focussed on buying already developed US platforms instead of wasting money developing our own.
Law & Order
Build more prisons, increase Cat A capacity and increase sentences - prisons focus on education and purposeful activity. Life sentences tariff to start at 45 years (not 25). Create a National Police Force that incorporates serious & organised crime, anti-terror, border control and public order (buying a useable amount of water cannon!) and amalgamates all of the small specialist forces (transport police, civil nuclear constabulary etc) under one uniformed cap badge.
NHS:
Give significant tax breaks to people who have their own private health insurance so that the NHS is still funded for improvement while relieving pressure on the system by encouraging those who can to go private. Move to a social insurance model of a mixed delivery economy like (all those far-right countries who want their poor to die on the streets) Spain, Germany, Switzerland, Greece etc.
Education
Compulsory schooling to 18, focus on STEM and standards. Return to streamed system with grammar/technical colleges and have solid technical alternatives to A level. Reduce the number of university places by closing poor quality universities offering mickey mouse degrees. Invest in proper apprenticeships.
Immigration
2 out = 1 in. Offshore processing the norm for asylum claims and removal of anyone here claiming asylum whose case has not been approved and are playing the system with multiple appeals. Close all appeals loopholes. Shut down the “pull factors” - no housing, payments, access to health or education. Anyone arriving on these shores except from an approved mechanism immediately processed and returned from the starting point of the last leg of their journey here. If you are here legally, compulsory English lessons to stay (this protects immigrants from exploitation - especially women from muslim cultures where men dominate).
Democracy
Move to a system of PR rather than first-past-the-post. Wholesale reform of the Lords to stop political parties stuffing the benches.
Abolish regional /devolved assemblies and waste of money/space offices like PCC and rationalise local government so we have one system (getting rid of the mix of unitary and terciary) making local government more effective. Reforms the civil service to make senior appointments “political” i.e appointed by the minister so that the CS enacts the will of the ministers in charge so that it is clear who runs the country and that we get what we vote for not the agenda of the CS.
Tax
Radically reduce it. Abolish NI (it’s just an income tax anyway) and rationalise the income tax system so you just pay 1 form of income tax with multiple, progressive banding. IHT to start at £1m and vastly reduced from 40% (say 5%) between £1m-5m exempting houses worth less than £1.5m. Reduce corp tax and abolish IR35. Require every retail purchase to show price ex-VAT so there is visibility of how much hidden tax is paid. Move everyone to self-assessment so they “feel” the tax they are paying to hold governments to account for wastage.
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. A great post and well thought out . Nice to see a positive contribution. I do not believe in PR bit we cannot agree in every single point.
Every single person who had entered the UK illegally should also be tracked down and returned to their country of origin. We should not tolerate these people breaking the law or human rights lawyers defending them for money .
Let's hope your policies are put into practice. |
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"Free everything for everybody. There, I've written the Labour manifesto for them. But w hat should the Tory version be?
Tax the poor and give it to the rich, of course.
Job done!! SNP, LibDems and Greens now.
Lib Dem’s - look after the poor people, just far away from us and not if it inconveniences us in any real sense."
Green - stop doing that.
Reform - foreigners did it. |
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"So if you were writing a party manifesto what woudl it contain?
Starters for 10:
Defence:
3.5% of GDP rising to 5% over 10 years, army back to 120K, and procurement focussed on buying already developed US platforms instead of wasting money developing our own.
Law & Order
Build more prisons, increase Cat A capacity and increase sentences - prisons focus on education and purposeful activity. Life sentences tariff to start at 45 years (not 25). Create a National Police Force that incorporates serious & organised crime, anti-terror, border control and public order (buying a useable amount of water cannon!) and amalgamates all of the small specialist forces (transport police, civil nuclear constabulary etc) under one uniformed cap badge.
NHS:
Give significant tax breaks to people who have their own private health insurance so that the NHS is still funded for improvement while relieving pressure on the system by encouraging those who can to go private. Move to a social insurance model of a mixed delivery economy like (all those far-right countries who want their poor to die on the streets) Spain, Germany, Switzerland, Greece etc.
Education
Compulsory schooling to 18, focus on STEM and standards. Return to streamed system with grammar/technical colleges and have solid technical alternatives to A level. Reduce the number of university places by closing poor quality universities offering mickey mouse degrees. Invest in proper apprenticeships.
Immigration
2 out = 1 in. Offshore processing the norm for asylum claims and removal of anyone here claiming asylum whose case has not been approved and are playing the system with multiple appeals. Close all appeals loopholes. Shut down the “pull factors” - no housing, payments, access to health or education. Anyone arriving on these shores except from an approved mechanism immediately processed and returned from the starting point of the last leg of their journey here. If you are here legally, compulsory English lessons to stay (this protects immigrants from exploitation - especially women from muslim cultures where men dominate).
Democracy
Move to a system of PR rather than first-past-the-post. Wholesale reform of the Lords to stop political parties stuffing the benches.
Abolish regional /devolved assemblies and waste of money/space offices like PCC and rationalise local government so we have one system (getting rid of the mix of unitary and terciary) making local government more effective. Reforms the civil service to make senior appointments “political” i.e appointed by the minister so that the CS enacts the will of the ministers in charge so that it is clear who runs the country and that we get what we vote for not the agenda of the CS.
Tax
Radically reduce it. Abolish NI (it’s just an income tax anyway) and rationalise the income tax system so you just pay 1 form of income tax with multiple, progressive banding. IHT to start at £1m and vastly reduced from 40% (say 5%) between £1m-5m exempting houses worth less than £1.5m. Reduce corp tax and abolish IR35. Require every retail purchase to show price ex-VAT so there is visibility of how much hidden tax is paid. Move everyone to self-assessment so they “feel” the tax they are paying to hold governments to account for wastage.
. A great post and well thought out . Nice to see a positive contribution. I do not believe in PR bit we cannot agree in every single point.
Every single person who had entered the UK illegally should also be tracked down and returned to their country of origin. We should not tolerate these people breaking the law or human rights lawyers defending them for money .
Let's hope your policies are put into practice. "
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Agree with OP on everything. Adding a few of things I want:
Free speech - Getting rid of the 2003 communications act and religious hatred act or any other provision that allows police to arrest people for expression that results in some other nutters to commit violence.
Immigration - Start conversations with other countries to rewrite the refugee conventions. Make a national ID mandatory. Invest in automation and using AI for public services.
Education - Support kids from poor backgrounds to be able to get into university for courses lead to jobs in high demand. |
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Priority has to be the economy
We’ve had austerity, followed by the highest tax rises since 1956, and the national debt trebled.
No spending promises can be fulfilled without the income to pay for them.
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"Priority has to be the economy
We’ve had austerity, followed by the highest tax rises since 1956, and the national debt trebled.
No spending promises can be fulfilled without the income to pay for them.
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And the economy can’t grow without a healthy workforce, so the NHS has to be a priority too. Over 7 million on the waiting lists. |
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"Priority has to be the economy
We’ve had austerity, followed by the highest tax rises since 1956, and the national debt trebled.
No spending promises can be fulfilled without the income to pay for them.
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What should be done about the economy? |
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"Priority has to be the economy
We’ve had austerity, followed by the highest tax rises since 1956, and the national debt trebled.
No spending promises can be fulfilled without the income to pay for them.
And the economy can’t grow without a healthy workforce, so the NHS has to be a priority too. Over 7 million on the waiting lists."
37% uk overweight
26% obese
Irresponsible UK plc stacking up problems for the nhs |
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"Priority has to be the economy
We’ve had austerity, followed by the highest tax rises since 1956, and the national debt trebled.
No spending promises can be fulfilled without the income to pay for them.
What should be done about the economy?"
Brexit promised millions of high paid jobs
Manufacturing has halved since 1970’s
Agriculture reduced to 0.6% gdp
We are reliant on imported food
Inequality and unaffordable housing draining peoples wages
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"Priority has to be the economy
We’ve had austerity, followed by the highest tax rises since 1956, and the national debt trebled.
No spending promises can be fulfilled without the income to pay for them.
What should be done about the economy?"
Reverse the 32% hike in corporation tax rate to incentivise business start up. |
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"Priority has to be the economy
We’ve had austerity, followed by the highest tax rises since 1956, and the national debt trebled.
No spending promises can be fulfilled without the income to pay for them.
What should be done about the economy?
Brexit promised millions of high paid jobs
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Yeah but that was always bollocks.
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Manufacturing has halved since 1970’s
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Manufacturing jobs would be good, but not sure how it could compete with China and other countries with low paid workforces.
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Agriculture reduced to 0.6% gdp
We are reliant on imported food
Inequality and unaffordable housing draining peoples wages
Business failures at record high "
Agriculture is struggling with lack of workforce since the aforementioned Brexit. I don't know how we can fix this in the current climate.
"Reverse the 32% hike in corporation tax rate to incentivise business start up."
I don't know about this one. It's likely to have a short term benefit, but then if we're stuck with it, it'll turn into a situation like in Ireland.
I'm not saying I have any answers, but I can't see many options which don't cost more money which we don't have. |
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"Priority has to be the economy
We’ve had austerity, followed by the highest tax rises since 1956, and the national debt trebled.
No spending promises can be fulfilled without the income to pay for them.
What should be done about the economy?
Brexit promised millions of high paid jobs
Yeah but that was always bollocks.
Manufacturing has halved since 1970’s
Manufacturing jobs would be good, but not sure how it could compete with China and other countries with low paid workforces.
Agriculture reduced to 0.6% gdp
We are reliant on imported food
Inequality and unaffordable housing draining peoples wages
Business failures at record high
Agriculture is struggling with lack of workforce since the aforementioned Brexit. I don't know how we can fix this in the current climate.
"Reverse the 32% hike in corporation tax rate to incentivise business start up."
I don't know about this one. It's likely to have a short term benefit, but then if we're stuck with it, it'll turn into a situation like in Ireland.
I'm not saying I have any answers, but I can't see many options which don't cost more money which we don't have."
And £2.7trn in debt
Race to the bottom. |
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By *irldnCouple 18 weeks ago
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Prediction: Labour are so worried/wounded by the accepted (but not accurate) belief held by many/most that they are not as good as Tories with the economy, that they will keep the belt tight and pay down as much of the national debt as they can (it is our debt payments/interest that is sucking the life out of the country). That lack of cash for public sector spending will then see them punished at the next election 4-5yrs from now. |
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I don't think any of the current issues are fixable in any deep and meaningful way. It's always "tinkering" around the edges. A little bit here, a little bit there. Upfund this, defund that. Then switch it round x months/years later.
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If there was a commonly accepted model of stability, every country would be using it. None are. They all have their own unique challenges and conditions.
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Throw in Covid / Ukraine and the impact on world economies from such stressors and it's clear that the house of cards we all live on isn't as stable as we are led to believe.
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Is there a solution to such a hugely complex issue with so many moving parts, some known and others unforeseen ?
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No, I don't think so.
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We're all going to die anyway, and as Schopenhauer said, "All life is suffering", and everything disappears in to nothingness at the end.
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I guess the best you can hope for, is to find contentment in things that are pleasurable. if only for a little while. |
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"A paragraph just for me saying my personal taxation, including IHT and CGT, is being reduced to zero because I am such a good egg!
Barring that, a cast iron commitment to removing corruption and cronyism would be a great start."
hahaha this is politicians we are talking about remember expenses scandals once you realise they all have there fingers in the till one way or another the quicker you will realise corruption and cronyism are all part of politics |
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what's the point of a manifesto its just a list of things they think the public will like but we also know its all lies and whatever they put in it will never happen.since when did a politician tell the truth .take a look at the current idiot that's squatting at number 10 and his pledges lol what has he achieved  . |
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"Priority has to be the economy
We’ve had austerity, followed by the highest tax rises since 1956, and the national debt trebled.
No spending promises can be fulfilled without the income to pay for them.
What should be done about the economy?
Brexit promised millions of high paid jobs
Yeah but that was always bollocks.
Manufacturing has halved since 1970’s
Manufacturing jobs would be good, but not sure how it could compete with China and other countries with low paid workforces.
Agriculture reduced to 0.6% gdp
We are reliant on imported food
Inequality and unaffordable housing draining peoples wages
Business failures at record high
Agriculture is struggling with lack of workforce since the aforementioned Brexit. I don't know how we can fix this in the current climate.
"Reverse the 32% hike in corporation tax rate to incentivise business start up."
I don't know about this one. It's likely to have a short term benefit, but then if we're stuck with it, it'll turn into a situation like in Ireland.
I'm not saying I have any answers, but I can't see many options which don't cost more money which we don't have."
. Agriculture struggling. ? You need to go out and have a look at a few farms. Farmers have simply adapted to changing circumstances. All the John Deeres are still in action and crops are in already . |
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"Priority has to be the economy
We’ve had austerity, followed by the highest tax rises since 1956, and the national debt trebled.
No spending promises can be fulfilled without the income to pay for them.
What should be done about the economy?
Brexit promised millions of high paid jobs
Yeah but that was always bollocks.
Manufacturing has halved since 1970’s
Manufacturing jobs would be good, but not sure how it could compete with China and other countries with low paid workforces.
Agriculture reduced to 0.6% gdp
We are reliant on imported food
Inequality and unaffordable housing draining peoples wages
Business failures at record high
Agriculture is struggling with lack of workforce since the aforementioned Brexit. I don't know how we can fix this in the current climate.
"Reverse the 32% hike in corporation tax rate to incentivise business start up."
I don't know about this one. It's likely to have a short term benefit, but then if we're stuck with it, it'll turn into a situation like in Ireland.
I'm not saying I have any answers, but I can't see many options which don't cost more money which we don't have.. Agriculture struggling. ? You need to go out and have a look at a few farms. Farmers have simply adapted to changing circumstances. All the John Deeres are still in action and crops are in already . "
Nothing to see here. Move along. Everything is fine.
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