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By *an DeLyon OP   Man 49 weeks ago

County Durham

Okay!.. apart from making foreign companies rich while running down th UK's infrastructure.. and fucking us over.. what other benefits are there of privatisation?

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By *ony 2016Man 49 weeks ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

Privatisation benefits versus Brexit benefits would probably end in a 0-0 draw

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By *ostindreamsMan 49 weeks ago

London

Privatisation of what?

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By *an DeLyon OP   Man 49 weeks ago

County Durham


"Privatisation of what?"

Exactly! Everything by the looks of it.

But in the case of Thames wate,. The rsilways etc.. then why is it beneficial to enrich shareholders rather than invest in infrastructure?

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By *ostindreamsMan 49 weeks ago

London


"Privatisation of what?

Exactly! Everything by the looks of it.

But in the case of Thames wate,. The rsilways etc.. then why is it beneficial to enrich shareholders rather than invest in infrastructure?"

Being beneficial to share holders and investing in infrastructure are not mutually exclusive. If there is enough competition, businesses will be forced to invest in infrastructure to be more efficient. But it's hard to get the competition going in some utilities like water. So yes, your criticism is valid for very few businesses. But not for most of the businesses.

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By *oubleswing2019Man 49 weeks ago

Colchester


"Privatisation of what?

Exactly! Everything by the looks of it.

But in the case of Thames wate,. The rsilways etc.. then why is it beneficial to enrich shareholders rather than invest in infrastructure?"

Because if you don't, the shareholders will sell their shares en masse and take their funds elsewhere. They might sell them to an investor group which now has a say in the running of the company. The investor group's objectives might be quite at odds with the company and they could, if they have enough control, make decisions which harm the company and its infrastructure.

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By *ustintime69Man 49 weeks ago

firest hill


"Privatisation of what?

Exactly! Everything by the looks of it.

But in the case of Thames wate,. The rsilways etc.. then why is it beneficial to enrich shareholders rather than invest in infrastructure?

Because if you don't, the shareholders will sell their shares en masse and take their funds elsewhere. They might sell them to an investor group which now has a say in the running of the company. The investor group's objectives might be quite at odds with the company and they could, if they have enough control, make decisions which harm the company and its infrastructure."

And therein lies the dilemma of public or private ownership in that there is always the desire to reward investors to the maximum and that means investment in capital projects such as new sewage treatment works gets kicked down the road ignoring the fact that there is a potential for huge legal liabilities in the future

I know it’s not glamorous but surely some of the big pension funds would be better off if there was a two tier system whereby utilities would produce returns within a limited band width to investors leading to a steady market in these areas while still allowing investment in more volatile market areas. I imagine that there would be some stagnation in a market like this but then maybe that’s no bad thing?

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