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Asked why there has been no input (next to nothing) on obesity (single biggest factor in the health of the ailing nation and treating it is the single biggest cost to the NHS - 100billion cost to the economy)?
Well we are making Britain a smoking free society...
Tech, AI and apps...
Asked why they have failed (as PM admits) in getting the numbers of waiting patients down?
Well the doctors' strikes...
Asked when they are going to actually deal with junior doctors striking?
Can I take this opportunity to thank the consultant doctors union...
Asked why they moved the funding for building renovations/repair to day to day spending, was it a mistake (think leaking roofs and RAAC, repair backlog of 11 billion pounds)?
We have a 2 year old centre using AI... (Elicits a repeat question)
40 new hospitals programme... (Elicits a repeat repeat)
I endorse the integrated care boards (old CCGs) to spend their funding on buildings  |
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By *yth11Couple 37 weeks ago
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"Asked why there has been no input (next to nothing) on obesity (single biggest factor in the health of the ailing nation and treating it is the single biggest cost to the NHS - 100billion cost to the economy)?
Well we are making Britain a smoking free society...
Tech, AI and apps...
Asked why they have failed (as PM admits) in getting the numbers of waiting patients down?
Well the doctors' strikes...
Asked when they are going to actually deal with junior doctors striking?
Can I take this opportunity to thank the consultant doctors union...
Asked why they moved the funding for building renovations/repair to day to day spending, was it a mistake (think leaking roofs and RAAC, repair backlog of 11 billion pounds)?
We have a 2 year old centre using AI... (Elicits a repeat question)
40 new hospitals programme... (Elicits a repeat repeat)
I endorse the integrated care boards (old CCGs) to spend their funding on buildings "
Dealing with obesity would be unpopular as it would involve taxing stuff or taking away choice as they did with smoking so they will kick the can to the next lot who may kick it back or slowly chip away at the issue. |
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37% of uk overweight including a third of kids
26% obese
6 million smokers
3 million on drugs
Crap sugar laden food and biscuit isles larger than salad isles at the supermarket.
No suprise nhs has issues and waiting times |
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The only time in my adult life i have been to the doctors is to get my son inoculated, and the hospital to get a piece of metal out of my eye.
I have never been to the doctors with an ailment, self medication has not let me down so far.  |
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"Asked why there has been no input (next to nothing) on obesity (single biggest factor in the health of the ailing nation and treating it is the single biggest cost to the NHS - 100billion cost to the economy)?
Well we are making Britain a smoking free society...
Tech, AI and apps...
Asked why they have failed (as PM admits) in getting the numbers of waiting patients down?
Well the doctors' strikes...
Asked when they are going to actually deal with junior doctors striking?
Can I take this opportunity to thank the consultant doctors union...
Asked why they moved the funding for building renovations/repair to day to day spending, was it a mistake (think leaking roofs and RAAC, repair backlog of 11 billion pounds)?
We have a 2 year old centre using AI... (Elicits a repeat question)
40 new hospitals programme... (Elicits a repeat repeat)
I endorse the integrated care boards (old CCGs) to spend their funding on buildings "
The ICBs that have had to cut their running cost allowances by 30%?
Yeah, they’re in a position to spend money on buildings. |
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By *andu66Couple 37 weeks ago
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Obesity rates in the United Kingdom, and around the world, are high and rising. They are higher, and rising faster, amongst people growing up and living in deprivation.
https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/132/644/1235/6519263 |
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"Obesity rates in the United Kingdom, and around the world, are high and rising. They are higher, and rising faster, amongst people growing up and living in deprivation.
https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/132/644/1235/6519263"
Eating healthily is expensive. |
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"Obesity rates in the United Kingdom, and around the world, are high and rising. They are higher, and rising faster, amongst people growing up and living in deprivation.
https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/132/644/1235/6519263
Eating healthily is expensive."
Fruit and veg expensive, get down to Lidl, eating processed food is the biggest health risk, I ain't had butter for 40 years which is an heart attack waiting to happen. |
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"Obesity rates in the United Kingdom, and around the world, are high and rising. They are higher, and rising faster, amongst people growing up and living in deprivation.
https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/132/644/1235/6519263
Eating healthily is expensive."
It's not any more expensive then eating unhealthy. |
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By (user no longer on site) 37 weeks ago
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"Obesity rates in the United Kingdom, and around the world, are high and rising. They are higher, and rising faster, amongst people growing up and living in deprivation.
https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/132/644/1235/6519263
Eating healthily is expensive.
It's not any more expensive then eating unhealthy."
Studies suggest you’re wrong. |
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"Obesity rates in the United Kingdom, and around the world, are high and rising. They are higher, and rising faster, amongst people growing up and living in deprivation.
https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/132/644/1235/6519263
Eating healthily is expensive.
Fruit and veg expensive, get down to Lidl, eating processed food is the biggest health risk, I ain't had butter for 40 years which is an heart attack waiting to happen."
Get down Lidl.... Grow your own its even cheaper and you get some exercise working on the garden or allotment. |
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"Obesity rates in the United Kingdom, and around the world, are high and rising. They are higher, and rising faster, amongst people growing up and living in deprivation.
https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/132/644/1235/6519263
Eating healthily is expensive.
Fruit and veg expensive, get down to Lidl, eating processed food is the biggest health risk, I ain't had butter for 40 years which is an heart attack waiting to happen.
Get down Lidl.... Grow your own its even cheaper and you get some exercise working on the garden or allotment. "
Ah yes, everyone, particularly the poorest in society, all have access to a garden or allotment. |
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"Obesity rates in the United Kingdom, and around the world, are high and rising. They are higher, and rising faster, amongst people growing up and living in deprivation.
https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/132/644/1235/6519263
Eating healthily is expensive.
It's not any more expensive then eating unhealthy.
Studies suggest you’re wrong. "
OK great, what studies are you referring two? |
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By *andu66Couple 37 weeks ago
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I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy |
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"Asked why there has been no input (next to nothing) on obesity (single biggest factor in the health of the ailing nation and treating it is the single biggest cost to the NHS - 100billion cost to the economy)?
Well we are making Britain a smoking free society...
Tech, AI and apps...
Asked why they have failed (as PM admits) in getting the numbers of waiting patients down?
Well the doctors' strikes...
Asked when they are going to actually deal with junior doctors striking?
Can I take this opportunity to thank the consultant doctors union...
Asked why they moved the funding for building renovations/repair to day to day spending, was it a mistake (think leaking roofs and RAAC, repair backlog of 11 billion pounds)?
We have a 2 year old centre using AI... (Elicits a repeat question)
40 new hospitals programme... (Elicits a repeat repeat)
I endorse the integrated care boards (old CCGs) to spend their funding on buildings
The ICBs that have had to cut their running cost allowances by 30%?
Yeah, they’re in a position to spend money on buildings."
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy"
So you could tax un health food to redress the balance if both cost the same people will chose healthy right... and if they can't afford it they can just eat less win win.. |
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By *andu66Couple 37 weeks ago
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy
So you could tax un health food to redress the balance if both cost the same people will chose healthy right... and if they can't afford it they can just eat less win win.."
Wow why didn't they think of that!..You should contact the Food Foundation I am sure they will take your opinion seriously....que more flooding  |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy"
£8.50 for 1000 calories... what are the using as the "healthy food" fillet stake??? |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy
£8.50 for 1000 calories... what are the using as the "healthy food" fillet stake???"
Can you disprove the figures? |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy"
cots per calorie feels a bit of an odd metric especially when you see how much vegetables drag it up. Bread and rice is a lot lower than unhealthy and dairy and meat not that much higher
I wonder what this looks like if we create a balanced meal.
The biggest issue with healthy eating is not so much cost but time. |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policycots per calorie feels a bit of an odd metric especially when you see how much vegetables drag it up. Bread and rice is a lot lower than unhealthy and dairy and meat not that much higher
I wonder what this looks like if we create a balanced meal.
The biggest issue with healthy eating is not so much cost but time. "
Not all bread is that healthy though, and if you are on benefits I’d suggest that cost is very much the biggest issue. |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policycots per calorie feels a bit of an odd metric especially when you see how much vegetables drag it up. Bread and rice is a lot lower than unhealthy and dairy and meat not that much higher
I wonder what this looks like if we create a balanced meal.
The biggest issue with healthy eating is not so much cost but time.
Not all bread is that healthy though, and if you are on benefits I’d suggest that cost is very much the biggest issue."
I jumped their graphs so didn't mean to strictly imply that.
But I still would like to see how this stacks up by a different measure. It implies calories are the be all and end all. Which if true, says have rice and bread.
I agree cost is a factor. But I'm not sure this source shows how much in a balanced (excuse the pun) way. |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy
So you could tax un health food to redress the balance if both cost the same people will chose healthy right... and if they can't afford it they can just eat less win win.."
Why is eating less a win win? Portion sizes is only one factor of obesity for SOME people. The result will be better continue to be malnutrition, but undernutrition. |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policycots per calorie feels a bit of an odd metric especially when you see how much vegetables drag it up. Bread and rice is a lot lower than unhealthy and dairy and meat not that much higher
I wonder what this looks like if we create a balanced meal.
The biggest issue with healthy eating is not so much cost but time.
Not all bread is that healthy though, and if you are on benefits I’d suggest that cost is very much the biggest issue."
And oddly enough the higher nutritional content of bread = higher cost. White bread is an ultra processed food. |
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"Eat once a day, and eat what you want. 
When you're eighty  "
You do know that your health revolves around the acidity of your stomach and gut, it is the one thing that keeps you alive and healthy, everything is absorbed through the stomach and gut. |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policycots per calorie feels a bit of an odd metric especially when you see how much vegetables drag it up. Bread and rice is a lot lower than unhealthy and dairy and meat not that much higher
I wonder what this looks like if we create a balanced meal.
The biggest issue with healthy eating is not so much cost but time.
Not all bread is that healthy though, and if you are on benefits I’d suggest that cost is very much the biggest issue.I jumped their graphs so didn't mean to strictly imply that.
But I still would like to see how this stacks up by a different measure. It implies calories are the be all and end all. Which if true, says have rice and bread.
I agree cost is a factor. But I'm not sure this source shows how much in a balanced (excuse the pun) way. "
I interpret it as we all need a certain amount of calories a day to survive, some of these calories have healthy fats, are low in sugar, high in protein and give us the nutrients we require. Other calories are high in bad fats, sugar etc. I can get 1000 calories from a packet of chocolate digestives for about £2, they would be very unhealthy calories though. To get those same calories from healthy vegetables and fish or chicken, this would cost me considerably more. |
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By (user no longer on site) 37 weeks ago
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policycots per calorie feels a bit of an odd metric especially when you see how much vegetables drag it up. Bread and rice is a lot lower than unhealthy and dairy and meat not that much higher
I wonder what this looks like if we create a balanced meal.
The biggest issue with healthy eating is not so much cost but time.
Not all bread is that healthy though, and if you are on benefits I’d suggest that cost is very much the biggest issue.I jumped their graphs so didn't mean to strictly imply that.
But I still would like to see how this stacks up by a different measure. It implies calories are the be all and end all. Which if true, says have rice and bread.
I agree cost is a factor. But I'm not sure this source shows how much in a balanced (excuse the pun) way.
I interpret it as we all need a certain amount of calories a day to survive, some of these calories have healthy fats, are low in sugar, high in protein and give us the nutrients we require. Other calories are high in bad fats, sugar etc. I can get 1000 calories from a packet of chocolate digestives for about £2, they would be very unhealthy calories though. To get those same calories from healthy vegetables and fish or chicken, this would cost me considerably more."
I agree that is what it is showing. And calories are important at but are not the be all and all (especially in a thread about obesity). You eat vegetables not for calories but other health benefits so to sue cals as metric is always going to paint vege as being expensive.
A stir-fry with a load of rice comes in at £2 with same cals of you OD on rice.
Tbh I'm not arguing against anything you are saying. I just don't think that report helps with the discussion the way they want it to. |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policycots per calorie feels a bit of an odd metric especially when you see how much vegetables drag it up. Bread and rice is a lot lower than unhealthy and dairy and meat not that much higher
I wonder what this looks like if we create a balanced meal.
The biggest issue with healthy eating is not so much cost but time.
Not all bread is that healthy though, and if you are on benefits I’d suggest that cost is very much the biggest issue.I jumped their graphs so didn't mean to strictly imply that.
But I still would like to see how this stacks up by a different measure. It implies calories are the be all and end all. Which if true, says have rice and bread.
I agree cost is a factor. But I'm not sure this source shows how much in a balanced (excuse the pun) way.
I interpret it as we all need a certain amount of calories a day to survive, some of these calories have healthy fats, are low in sugar, high in protein and give us the nutrients we require. Other calories are high in bad fats, sugar etc. I can get 1000 calories from a packet of chocolate digestives for about £2, they would be very unhealthy calories though. To get those same calories from healthy vegetables and fish or chicken, this would cost me considerably more.I agree that is what it is showing. And calories are important at but are not the be all and all (especially in a thread about obesity). You eat vegetables not for calories but other health benefits so to sue cals as metric is always going to paint vege as being expensive.
A stir-fry with a load of rice comes in at £2 with same cals of you OD on rice.
Tbh I'm not arguing against anything you are saying. I just don't think that report helps with the discussion the way they want it to. "
We have to get our calories from somewhere, and the healthier food is more expensive calorie for calorie, especially when you are trying to eat a balanced diet. As people have said, pasta and rice are cheap, as are tinned tomatoes etc. but when you start to add in white meat or fish then you start to get more expensive. Then you have to look at variety etc. |
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"Eat once a day, and eat what you want.
When you're eighty
You do know that your health revolves around the acidity of your stomach and gut, it is the one thing that keeps you alive and healthy, everything is absorbed through the stomach and gut. "
Health starts in the brain: homeostasis. |
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"Eat once a day, and eat what you want.
When you're eighty
You do know that your health revolves around the acidity of your stomach and gut, it is the one thing that keeps you alive and healthy, everything is absorbed through the stomach and gut. "
I’m always loathe to buy into any idea that there is one main thing that makes s they key to everything. Nothing is ever that simple. |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy
£8.50 for 1000 calories... what are the using as the "healthy food" fillet stake???
Can you disprove the figures? "
Ye a £1.09 jar asda peanut butter has over 1000 calories in it. There are loads of cheep calorie dance foods. I have never read anything so ridiculous in my life...
100g of porridge oats 600 cals £1.25
6 large eggs £1.85 approximately 500 cals
I could go on and on.. |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy
£8.50 for 1000 calories... what are the using as the "healthy food" fillet stake???
Can you disprove the figures?
Ye a £1.09 jar asda peanut butter has over 1000 calories in it. There are loads of cheep calorie dance foods. I have never read anything so ridiculous in my life...
100g of porridge oats 600 cals £1.25
6 large eggs £1.85 approximately 500 cals
I could go on and on.."
Peanut butter that cheap is unlikely to be good for you it’s probably full of additives, such as sugar and hydrogenated oils (which may contain trans fats).
6 large eggs will contain approximately 1300mg of cholesterol, more than twice the recommended daily amount.
And eating oats with water is the dullest thing in the world, although pretty healthy. |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy
£8.50 for 1000 calories... what are the using as the "healthy food" fillet stake???
Can you disprove the figures?
Ye a £1.09 jar asda peanut butter has over 1000 calories in it. There are loads of cheep calorie dance foods. I have never read anything so ridiculous in my life...
100g of porridge oats 600 cals £1.25
6 large eggs £1.85 approximately 500 cals
I could go on and on.."
Is peanut butter healthy?
What you’ve done is take an actual study, and assume that you know better based upon your personal experience in the supermarket.
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy
£8.50 for 1000 calories... what are the using as the "healthy food" fillet stake???
Can you disprove the figures?
Ye a £1.09 jar asda peanut butter has over 1000 calories in it. There are loads of cheep calorie dance foods. I have never read anything so ridiculous in my life...
100g of porridge oats 600 cals £1.25
6 large eggs £1.85 approximately 500 cals
I could go on and on..
Peanut butter that cheap is unlikely to be good for you it’s probably full of additives, such as sugar and hydrogenated oils (which may contain trans fats).
6 large eggs will contain approximately 1300mg of cholesterol, more than twice the recommended daily amount.
And eating oats with water is the dullest thing in the world, although pretty healthy."
No additives it was 100% peanut butter...
Eggs causing issues with you cholesterol was and old trope and has been largely debunked.
"RCTs in people with diabetes have found that eating 6–12 eggs per week didn’t negatively affect total blood cholesterol levels or heart disease risk factors. Rather, it increased high density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol (17Trusted Source, 18Trusted Source)."
Why on eartg would you have oats with water. 6 pints of whole milk £2.25 2176 calories. |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy
£8.50 for 1000 calories... what are the using as the "healthy food" fillet stake???
Can you disprove the figures?
Ye a £1.09 jar asda peanut butter has over 1000 calories in it. There are loads of cheep calorie dance foods. I have never read anything so ridiculous in my life...
100g of porridge oats 600 cals £1.25
6 large eggs £1.85 approximately 500 cals
I could go on and on..
Peanut butter that cheap is unlikely to be good for you it’s probably full of additives, such as sugar and hydrogenated oils (which may contain trans fats).
6 large eggs will contain approximately 1300mg of cholesterol, more than twice the recommended daily amount.
And eating oats with water is the dullest thing in the world, although pretty healthy."
irrc the egg thing has been largely superceded.
The "healthy is good expensive" (in that report at least) was based on cost per cal. I think we both agree that more is needed than cals for balance.
But even on their numbers I can get the 1000 cal from rice for a quid, and still have three left over to top up with some meat and vege. That's something like 200g chicken and 300g brocolli.
Is that balanced enough ? Dunno. How balanced is the 1000 cal unhealthy. I'd fathom worse.
Is lived experience as easy as this ? No. Is there an issue to address. Yes. I'm just challenging of the way the paper presented the issue is balanced.
I don't think so. After all even if you had the money for 1000 cal of vege, you'd still struggle to eat it. It's almost 3kg or brocolli! |
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"I know fact and evidence upset some people and links to it upset them even more.....(que opinions based on nothing and flooding)
Healthy nutritious food is nearly three times more expensive than obesogenic unhealthy products, with more healthy foods costing an average of £8.51 for 1,000 calories compared to just £3.25 for 1,000 calories of less healthy foods. Between 2021 and 2022 healthier foods became even more expensive, increasing in price by an average of 5.1% compared with 2.5% for the least healthy foods.
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/press-release/major-report-highlights-impact-britains-disastrous-food-policy
£8.50 for 1000 calories... what are the using as the "healthy food" fillet stake???
Can you disprove the figures?
Ye a £1.09 jar asda peanut butter has over 1000 calories in it. There are loads of cheep calorie dance foods. I have never read anything so ridiculous in my life...
100g of porridge oats 600 cals £1.25
6 large eggs £1.85 approximately 500 cals
I could go on and on..
Peanut butter that cheap is unlikely to be good for you it’s probably full of additives, such as sugar and hydrogenated oils (which may contain trans fats).
6 large eggs will contain approximately 1300mg of cholesterol, more than twice the recommended daily amount.
And eating oats with water is the dullest thing in the world, although pretty healthy.irrc the egg thing has been largely superceded.
The "healthy is good expensive" (in that report at least) was based on cost per cal. I think we both agree that more is needed than cals for balance.
But even on their numbers I can get the 1000 cal from rice for a quid, and still have three left over to top up with some meat and vege. That's something like 200g chicken and 300g brocolli.
Is that balanced enough ? Dunno. How balanced is the 1000 cal unhealthy. I'd fathom worse.
Is lived experience as easy as this ? No. Is there an issue to address. Yes. I'm just challenging of the way the paper presented the issue is balanced.
I don't think so. After all even if you had the money for 1000 cal of vege, you'd still struggle to eat it. It's almost 3kg or brocolli!"
I think you hit the nail on the head earlier. For most working people and people with Families it's more time and convenience as apposed to cost.. |
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"Eat once a day, and eat what you want.
When you're eighty
You do know that your health revolves around the acidity of your stomach and gut, it is the one thing that keeps you alive and healthy, everything is absorbed through the stomach and gut.
Health starts in the brain: homeostasis."
Pop a paracetamol in you mouth for a headache were does it end up and what mechanism extracts the goodness from the tablet. |
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"Eat once a day, and eat what you want.
When you're eighty
You do know that your health revolves around the acidity of your stomach and gut, it is the one thing that keeps you alive and healthy, everything is absorbed through the stomach and gut.
I’m always loathe to buy into any idea that there is one main thing that makes s they key to everything. Nothing is ever that simple."
It really is. |
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"Eat once a day, and eat what you want.
When you're eighty
You do know that your health revolves around the acidity of your stomach and gut, it is the one thing that keeps you alive and healthy, everything is absorbed through the stomach and gut.
Health starts in the brain: homeostasis.
Pop a paracetamol in you mouth for a headache were does it end up and what mechanism extracts the goodness from the tablet. "
Central nervous system. |
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"Eat once a day, and eat what you want.
When you're eighty
You do know that your health revolves around the acidity of your stomach and gut, it is the one thing that keeps you alive and healthy, everything is absorbed through the stomach and gut.
I’m always loathe to buy into any idea that there is one main thing that makes s they key to everything. Nothing is ever that simple.
It really is."
What's your medical background? Cos I can assure you digestion is not a panacea it is simply one system in the human body. |
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"Eat once a day, and eat what you want.
When you're eighty
You do know that your health revolves around the acidity of your stomach and gut, it is the one thing that keeps you alive and healthy, everything is absorbed through the stomach and gut.
I’m always loathe to buy into any idea that there is one main thing that makes s they key to everything. Nothing is ever that simple.
It really is.
What's your medical background? Cos I can assure you digestion is not a panacea it is simply one system in the human body."
Whatever you eat or drink is going into your stomach, drink to much alcohol which organ is going to pack up eventually, everything is extracted from the digestive tract stomach and gut. |
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"Eat once a day, and eat what you want.
When you're eighty
You do know that your health revolves around the acidity of your stomach and gut, it is the one thing that keeps you alive and healthy, everything is absorbed through the stomach and gut.
I’m always loathe to buy into any idea that there is one main thing that makes s they key to everything. Nothing is ever that simple.
It really is.
What's your medical background? Cos I can assure you digestion is not a panacea it is simply one system in the human body.
Whatever you eat or drink is going into your stomach, drink to much alcohol which organ is going to pack up eventually, everything is extracted from the digestive tract stomach and gut. "
I know how the digestive system works thanks. And actually not everything is absorbed from the large intestine - fibre!
Thanks for confirming you have no medical background. And I have no clue as to what point you're trying to make. |
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"Eat once a day, and eat what you want.
When you're eighty
You do know that your health revolves around the acidity of your stomach and gut, it is the one thing that keeps you alive and healthy, everything is absorbed through the stomach and gut.
I’m always loathe to buy into any idea that there is one main thing that makes s they key to everything. Nothing is ever that simple.
It really is.
What's your medical background? Cos I can assure you digestion is not a panacea it is simply one system in the human body.
Whatever you eat or drink is going into your stomach, drink to much alcohol which organ is going to pack up eventually, everything is extracted from the digestive tract stomach and gut.
I know how the digestive system works thanks. And actually not everything is absorbed from the large intestine - fibre!
Thanks for confirming you have no medical background. And I have no clue as to what point you're trying to make."
You eat crap food which goes into the stomach and you will have crap health. Not hard to understand, you do understand that or you do not.
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