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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 48 weeks ago

nearby

Israeli soldiers have murdered another 100 civilians

This time they were queuing for aid

Is Sunak still ‘I hope you win’

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By *exxyyDy11Man 48 weeks ago

North West

Standard for the "most moral army in the world". They have Uncle Sam there to veto any UN resolution or condemnation.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


"Israeli soldiers have murdered another 100 civilians

This time they were queuing for aid

Is Sunak still ‘I hope you win’ "

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-68438112?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=65e0a020a5b922762f3bf973%26What%20we%20know%20about%20deadly%20incident%262024-02-29T15%3A20%3A54.466Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:6deb8d41-67cf-4df8-9f22-a45fc576a232&pinned_post_asset_id=65e0a020a5b922762f3bf973&pinned_post_type=share

You make it seem like some callous soldiers from a brutal regime mowed down an orderly queue of starving people, waiting for food.

The reality seems to be that a mob of people charged at, and attempted looting, aid trucks, ignoring warning shots. Most casualties were from the (civilian and not Israeli) truck drivers panicking and driving over them.

Presumably, the shots fired were too avoid exactly this kind of thing.

Now, you can argue that one can blame Israel for creating desperate people in the first place, perhaps. But your post is either horrifically misinformed or a lie.

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By *oversfunCouple 48 weeks ago

city centre


"Israeli soldiers have murdered another 100 civilians

This time they were queuing for aid

Is Sunak still ‘I hope you win’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-68438112?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=65e0a020a5b922762f3bf973%26What%20we%20know%20about%20deadly%20incident%262024-02-29T15%3A20%3A54.466Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:6deb8d41-67cf-4df8-9f22-a45fc576a232&pinned_post_asset_id=65e0a020a5b922762f3bf973&pinned_post_type=share

You make it seem like some callous soldiers from a brutal regime mowed down an orderly queue of starving people, waiting for food.

The reality seems to be that a mob of people charged at, and attempted looting, aid trucks, ignoring warning shots. Most casualties were from the (civilian and not Israeli) truck drivers panicking and driving over them.

Presumably, the shots fired were too avoid exactly this kind of thing.

Now, you can argue that one can blame Israel for creating desperate people in the first place, perhaps. But your post is either horrifically misinformed or a lie."

your comment is near word for word that the idf commander gave on the news

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


"your comment is near word for word that the idf commander gave on the news "

Funny. It's a summary of the BBC article linked, which they say was the product of their research.

"Shortly afterwards, with the last lorry only about 70m (230ft) north of the checkpoint, Palestinians - many of whom had been camped out nearby, waiting for the arrival of aid - descended on the convoy."

"The Palestinian witness said the bulk of the casualties were caused by the lorries running people over, not by the Israeli gunfire."

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


"your comment is near word for word that the idf commander gave on the news

Funny. It's a summary of the BBC article linked, which they say was the product of their research.

"Shortly afterwards, with the last lorry only about 70m (230ft) north of the checkpoint, Palestinians - many of whom had been camped out nearby, waiting for the arrival of aid - descended on the convoy."

"The Palestinian witness said the bulk of the casualties were caused by the lorries running people over, not by the Israeli gunfire.""

"Following conversations with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and a Palestinian eyewitness, we have been able to establish - with some confidence - the circumstances surrounding the incident on Thursday morning in which as many as 104 Palestinians were killed."

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By *idnightMischiefMan 48 weeks ago

London


"Israeli soldiers have murdered another 100 civilians

This time they were queuing for aid

Is Sunak still ‘I hope you win’ "

According to Hamas

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By *oversfunCouple 48 weeks ago

city centre


"your comment is near word for word that the idf commander gave on the news

Funny. It's a summary of the BBC article linked, which they say was the product of their research.

The bbc giving idf side of story,and aljazeera saying isrealie soldiers opened fire on unarmed ppl ,and sky news saying it was still being investigated,you have made up your mind to beleive the bbc and idf version of events

"Shortly afterwards, with the last lorry only about 70m (230ft) north of the checkpoint, Palestinians - many of whom had been camped out nearby, waiting for the arrival of aid - descended on the convoy."

"The Palestinian witness said the bulk of the casualties were caused by the lorries running people over, not by the Israeli gunfire.""

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

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"Israeli soldiers have murdered another 100 civilians

This time they were queuing for aid

Is Sunak still ‘I hope you win’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-68438112?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=65e0a020a5b922762f3bf973%26What%20we%20know%20about%20deadly%20incident%262024-02-29T15%3A20%3A54.466Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:6deb8d41-67cf-4df8-9f22-a45fc576a232&pinned_post_asset_id=65e0a020a5b922762f3bf973&pinned_post_type=share

You make it seem like some callous soldiers from a brutal regime mowed down an orderly queue of starving people, waiting for food.

The reality seems to be that a mob of people charged at, and attempted looting, aid trucks, ignoring warning shots. Most casualties were from the (civilian and not Israeli) truck drivers panicking and driving over them.

Presumably, the shots fired were too avoid exactly this kind of thing.

Now, you can argue that one can blame Israel for creating desperate people in the first place, perhaps. But your post is either horrifically misinformed or a lie."

Haha, one hell of a story lol. The drivers were so terrified of these scary man eating hungry Zombies called Palestinians, they were so terrified they panicked.

The Only Baby killers in the mideast shooting at them had nothing to do with it.

Very convincing. And it must be true because the Official Baby killers TV called the BBC said so. Lol

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


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Very convincing. And it must be true because the Official Baby killers TV called the BBC said so. Lol"

Your response to a point made with a link to research by journalists with video evidence and a Palestinian eyewitness statement:

Haha, lol. Baby killers be baby killers. BBC = baby bashers convention. Lol.

Smooth.

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


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Very convincing. And it must be true because the Official Baby killers TV called the BBC said so. Lol

Your response to a point made with a link to research by journalists with video evidence and a Palestinian eyewitness statement:

Haha, lol. Baby killers be baby killers. BBC = baby bashers convention. Lol.

Smooth. "

You mean the same journalist that told us Hamas beheaded 40 babies and burned them in the oven?

The same journalists that told Hamas Cut woman's boobs and played football with them? After sexually assaulting them? And cutting open pregnant women's bellies?

The same journalists that told us on the 7th of october that Hamas killed 2000 Israeli civilians. Just to have the evidence coming out every day after that show the total death was 1150, over 600 of them are IDF members, and many footages showing Israeli tanks and Helicopters killing 100's of civilians that day?

Explain how aid trucks could kill over 150 palestinians an injure over a 1000. And how can aid trucks shoot people in the head?

The pictures of the dead are out there

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


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Explain how aid trucks could kill over 150 palestinians an injure over a 1000. And how can aid trucks shoot people in the head?

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack

If one truck driven by a Muslim terrorist can kill 86 people and injure 434 others, imagine what 18-30 trucks can do in a crowd...

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


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Explain how aid trucks could kill over 150 palestinians an injure over a 1000. And how can aid trucks shoot people in the head?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack

If one truck driven by a Muslim terrorist can kill 86 people and injure 434 others, imagine what 18-30 trucks can do in a crowd..."

You're desperate. So you're saying 18 trucks were on a terrorist mission to deliver death not flour? At what speed can you go on a city that has been erased, no roads left? Just ruble tracks.

I am still without explanation how aid lorries can shoot people in the head?

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


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Explain how aid trucks could kill over 150 palestinians an injure over a 1000. And how can aid trucks shoot people in the head?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack

If one truck driven by a Muslim terrorist can kill 86 people and injure 434 others, imagine what 18-30 trucks can do in a crowd...

You're desperate. So you're saying 18 trucks were on a terrorist mission to deliver death not flour? At what speed can you go on a city that has been erased, no roads left? Just ruble tracks.

I am still without explanation how aid lorries can shoot people in the head? "

And how this never happened when aid used to be delivered by UNRWA?

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate

Palestinian witness:

We went to get flour. The Israeli army shot at us. There are many martyrs on the ground and until this moment we are still withdrawing them. There is no first aid"

Reporting from the scene, on the ground (unlike BBC Journalists), Aljazeera's Ismail Al-Ghoul said: "After opening fire, Israeli tanks advanced and ran over many of the dead and injured bodies. It is a massacre, on top of the starvation threatening citizens in Gaza"

According to another Palestinian witness: "There were drones over our heads shooting at us"

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


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You're desperate. So you're saying 18 trucks were on a terrorist mission to deliver death not flour?

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No. Learn to read.


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I am still without explanation how aid lorries can shoot people in the head? "

Nobody said that happened.

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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago

Just another clear cut example of why the only sensible solution is for a foreign peacekeeper force to be sent in to occupy the area. Of course when its poor people being killed it doesn't matter.

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate

The Official Zionazi response to the FLOUR MASSACRE by The Irahelli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir:

"Total support must be given to our heroic fighters operating in Gaza, who acted excellently against a Gazan mob that tried to harm them. Today it was proven that the transfer of humanitarian aid to Gaza is not only madness while our abductees are being held in the strip under substandard conditions, but also endangers the IDF soldiers. This is another clear reason why we MUST stop the transfer of this aid, which is in fact aid to harm the IDF soldiers and oxygen to Hamas"

So if after hearing this, anyone still doubting that this is a genocide by intent, there is no grain of humanity left in them.

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


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You're desperate. So you're saying 18 trucks were on a terrorist mission to deliver death not flour?

No. Learn to read.

I am still without explanation how aid lorries can shoot people in the head?

Nobody said that happened. "

Everybody is saying that. Including the dead shot heads that everyone can see.

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Just another clear cut example of why the only sensible solution is for a foreign peacekeeper force to be sent in to occupy the area. Of course when its poor people being killed it doesn't matter."

We have seen what the foreign peace keepers did in Haiti, Bosnia and other crisis in the world.

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By *otMe66Man 48 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Just another clear cut example of why the only sensible solution is for a foreign peacekeeper force to be sent in to occupy the area. Of course when its poor people being killed it doesn't matter.

We have seen what the foreign peace keepers did in Haiti, Bosnia and other crisis in the world. "

Blimey it would be a bad day for you if peace was brokered, where would you channel that anger?

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By *irldnCouple 48 weeks ago

Brighton


"Palestinian witness:

We went to get flour. The Israeli army shot at us. There are many martyrs on the ground and until this moment we are still withdrawing them. There is no first aid"

Reporting from the scene, on the ground (unlike BBC Journalists), Aljazeera's Ismail Al-Ghoul said: "After opening fire, Israeli tanks advanced and ran over many of the dead and injured bodies. It is a massacre, on top of the starvation threatening citizens in Gaza"

According to another Palestinian witness: "There were drones over our heads shooting at us" "

Source? Link? Search string?

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate

In an Israeli Website, celebrating the FLOUR MASSACRE, Showing a drone video where the crowds are being shot panicking while some are still trying to get their hands on a bag of flour despite the danger.

Israeli commentator: "First footage of the BLESSED MASSACRE. You can see clearly, they're fighting for their lives, for survival. Cannibalism is on the way! We must starve them until the long awaited cannibalism"

These people have dwarfed the Nazis

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By *irldnCouple 48 weeks ago

Brighton


"In an Israeli Website, celebrating the FLOUR MASSACRE, Showing a drone video where the crowds are being shot panicking while some are still trying to get their hands on a bag of flour despite the danger.

Israeli commentator: "First footage of the BLESSED MASSACRE. You can see clearly, they're fighting for their lives, for survival. Cannibalism is on the way! We must starve them until the long awaited cannibalism"

These people have dwarfed the Nazis"

Source? Link? Search string?

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By *otMe66Man 48 weeks ago

Terra Firma

The random word generator is being stressed today

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"In an Israeli Website, celebrating the FLOUR MASSACRE, Showing a drone video where the crowds are being shot panicking while some are still trying to get their hands on a bag of flour despite the danger.

Israeli commentator: "First footage of the BLESSED MASSACRE. You can see clearly, they're fighting for their lives, for survival. Cannibalism is on the way! We must starve them until the long awaited cannibalism"

These people have dwarfed the Nazis

Source? Link? Search string?"

https://twitter.com/itamarbengvir/status/1763196768458604583?t=rc63lWnUGaJNMbER1IT8Aw&s=19

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By *irldnCouple 48 weeks ago

Brighton


"In an Israeli Website, celebrating the FLOUR MASSACRE, Showing a drone video where the crowds are being shot panicking while some are still trying to get their hands on a bag of flour despite the danger.

Israeli commentator: "First footage of the BLESSED MASSACRE. You can see clearly, they're fighting for their lives, for survival. Cannibalism is on the way! We must starve them until the long awaited cannibalism"

These people have dwarfed the Nazis

Source? Link? Search string?

https://twitter.com/itamarbengvir/status/1763196768458604583?t=rc63lWnUGaJNMbER1IT8Aw&s=19"

I will take a look but Twitter is not a verifiable news source. You know that right? I can literally post any shit on there and if it gets traction someone might think it is real.

I am disappointed as I thought you would have something credible

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Palestinian witness:

We went to get flour. The Israeli army shot at us. There are many martyrs on the ground and until this moment we are still withdrawing them. There is no first aid"

Reporting from the scene, on the ground (unlike BBC Journalists), Aljazeera's Ismail Al-Ghoul said: "After opening fire, Israeli tanks advanced and ran over many of the dead and injured bodies. It is a massacre, on top of the starvation threatening citizens in Gaza"

According to another Palestinian witness: "There were drones over our heads shooting at us"

Source? Link? Search string?"

Aljazeera's footage, showing the start of the shooting while 1000's of starving people trying to get a bag of flour. While some people were on top of the lorries throwing flour bags at the crowd queuing around the lories. The Israeli drone footage confirms this.

This shows that the official BBC story that the lory drivers panicked and crashed into the crowds is a big fart lie.

https://twitter.com/GozukaraFurkan/status/1763184975199818094?t=MKQUcwUWBJ4l9wvBnoletQ&s=19

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


"In an Israeli Website, celebrating the FLOUR MASSACRE, Showing a drone video where the crowds are being shot panicking while some are still trying to get their hands on a bag of flour despite the danger.

Israeli commentator: "First footage of the BLESSED MASSACRE. You can see clearly, they're fighting for their lives, for survival. Cannibalism is on the way! We must starve them until the long awaited cannibalism"

These people have dwarfed the Nazis

Source? Link? Search string?

https://twitter.com/itamarbengvir/status/1763196768458604583?t=rc63lWnUGaJNMbER1IT8Aw&s=19

I will take a look but Twitter is not a verifiable news source. You know that right? I can literally post any shit on there and if it gets traction someone might think it is real.

I am disappointed as I thought you would have something credible "

It's a direct link to Ben Gvir's twitter. In that sense, it's credible.

Google translate:

"Total support must be given to our heroic fighters operating in Gaza, who acted excellently against a Gazan mob that tried to harm them. Today it was proven that the transfer of humanitarian aid to Gaza is not only madness while our abductees are being held in the Gaza Strip under substandard conditions, but also endangers the IDF soldiers. This is another clear reason why we must stop transferring this aid, which is actually aid to harm the IDF soldiers and oxygen to Hamas"

A little tasteless and tone deaf. But a far cry from the words that the other poster put in his mouth.

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"In an Israeli Website, celebrating the FLOUR MASSACRE, Showing a drone video where the crowds are being shot panicking while some are still trying to get their hands on a bag of flour despite the danger.

Israeli commentator: "First footage of the BLESSED MASSACRE. You can see clearly, they're fighting for their lives, for survival. Cannibalism is on the way! We must starve them until the long awaited cannibalism"

These people have dwarfed the Nazis

Source? Link? Search string?

https://twitter.com/itamarbengvir/status/1763196768458604583?t=rc63lWnUGaJNMbER1IT8Aw&s=19

I will take a look but Twitter is not a verifiable news source. You know that right? I can literally post any shit on there and if it gets traction someone might think it is real.

I am disappointed as I thought you would have something credible "

That is the official twitter account of the Israeli National Security Minister.

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"In an Israeli Website, celebrating the FLOUR MASSACRE, Showing a drone video where the crowds are being shot panicking while some are still trying to get their hands on a bag of flour despite the danger.

Israeli commentator: "First footage of the BLESSED MASSACRE. You can see clearly, they're fighting for their lives, for survival. Cannibalism is on the way! We must starve them until the long awaited cannibalism"

These people have dwarfed the Nazis

Source? Link? Search string?

https://twitter.com/itamarbengvir/status/1763196768458604583?t=rc63lWnUGaJNMbER1IT8Aw&s=19

I will take a look but Twitter is not a verifiable news source. You know that right? I can literally post any shit on there and if it gets traction someone might think it is real.

I am disappointed as I thought you would have something credible

It's a direct link to Ben Gvir's twitter. In that sense, it's credible.

Google translate:

"Total support must be given to our heroic fighters operating in Gaza, who acted excellently against a Gazan mob that tried to harm them. Today it was proven that the transfer of humanitarian aid to Gaza is not only madness while our abductees are being held in the Gaza Strip under substandard conditions, but also endangers the IDF soldiers. This is another clear reason why we must stop transferring this aid, which is actually aid to harm the IDF soldiers and oxygen to Hamas"

A little tasteless and tone deaf. But a far cry from the words that the other poster put in his mouth.

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How is it a far cry? What have put in his mouth that he didn't say?!

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


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Aljazeera's footage, showing the start of the shooting while 1000's of starving people trying to get a bag of flour.

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It does not show who is shooting at what and why. Have you even watched it?


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While some people were on top of the lorries throwing flour bags at the crowd queuing around the lories. The Israeli drone footage confirms this.

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Looting. Understandable given the desperate circumstances, but it's still a mob looting. No order or control. With the trucks mobbed (including on the cabin), it makes sense that civilian drivers would panic at some point.


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This shows that the official BBC story that the lory drivers panicked and crashed into the crowds is a big fart lie.

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No, it shows nothing if the sort. It shows a very limited (edited) snapshot.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


"In an Israeli Website, celebrating the FLOUR MASSACRE, Showing a drone video where the crowds are being shot panicking while some are still trying to get their hands on a bag of flour despite the danger.

Israeli commentator: "First footage of the BLESSED MASSACRE. You can see clearly, they're fighting for their lives, for survival. Cannibalism is on the way! We must starve them until the long awaited cannibalism"

These people have dwarfed the Nazis

Source? Link? Search string?

https://twitter.com/itamarbengvir/status/1763196768458604583?t=rc63lWnUGaJNMbER1IT8Aw&s=19

I will take a look but Twitter is not a verifiable news source. You know that right? I can literally post any shit on there and if it gets traction someone might think it is real.

I am disappointed as I thought you would have something credible

It's a direct link to Ben Gvir's twitter. In that sense, it's credible.

Google translate:

"Total support must be given to our heroic fighters operating in Gaza, who acted excellently against a Gazan mob that tried to harm them. Today it was proven that the transfer of humanitarian aid to Gaza is not only madness while our abductees are being held in the Gaza Strip under substandard conditions, but also endangers the IDF soldiers. This is another clear reason why we must stop transferring this aid, which is actually aid to harm the IDF soldiers and oxygen to Hamas"

A little tasteless and tone deaf. But a far cry from the words that the other poster put in his mouth.

How is it a far cry? What have put in his mouth that he didn't say?! "

Ah... Your link was not to the above quoted text. Apologies, that was confusing.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 48 weeks ago

nearby


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Aljazeera's footage, showing the start of the shooting while 1000's of starving people trying to get a bag of flour.

It does not show who is shooting at what and why. Have you even watched it?

While some people were on top of the lorries throwing flour bags at the crowd queuing around the lories. The Israeli drone footage confirms this.

Looting. Understandable given the desperate circumstances, but it's still a mob looting. No order or control. With the trucks mobbed (including on the cabin), it makes sense that civilian drivers would panic at some point.

This shows that the official BBC story that the lory drivers panicked and crashed into the crowds is a big fart lie.

No, it shows nothing if the sort. It shows a very limited (edited) snapshot."

It’s all deliberate, no verifiable media allowed there filming the executions

1.5 million displaced onto the largest concentration camp on the globe

30,000 dead, 60,000 injured, 17,000 orphans, 500,000 homes destroyed, minimal healthcare, dying people everywhere, mass graves.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


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It’s all deliberate, no verifiable media allowed there filming the executions

1.5 million displaced onto the largest concentration camp on the globe

30,000 dead, 60,000 injured, 17,000 orphans, 500,000 homes destroyed, minimal healthcare, dying people everywhere, mass graves.

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You're right, the human cost is shocking. It makes you wonder who in Gaza is holding out and fighting for what. Is holding the hostages really worth all of this?

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 48 weeks ago

nearby


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It’s all deliberate, no verifiable media allowed there filming the executions

1.5 million displaced onto the largest concentration camp on the globe

30,000 dead, 60,000 injured, 17,000 orphans, 500,000 homes destroyed, minimal healthcare, dying people everywhere, mass graves.

You're right, the human cost is shocking. It makes you wonder who in Gaza is holding out and fighting for what. Is holding the hostages really worth all of this?"

“”In his Today programme interview Chris Williamson, George Galloway’s ally and deputy leader of the Workers Party of Britain, Galloway’s party, declined to condemn the Hamas massacre of Israelis on 7 October.

Asked by Mishal Husain to condemn those attacks, Williamson replied:

The two main parties have not called for a ceasefire. They’ve not condemned the Israeli regime’s activities. You can’t expect to live in a situation where a people have been oppressed for 75 years and not expect a reaction.

Asked if he was saying the attacks were understandable, Williamson replied:

What about the Palestinian people that have been massacred over 76 years now. Where is the media outrage at that? In international law oppressed peoples have an absolute right to armed resistance””.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 48 weeks ago

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It’s all deliberate, no verifiable media allowed there filming the executions

1.5 million displaced onto the largest concentration camp on the globe

30,000 dead, 60,000 injured, 17,000 orphans, 500,000 homes destroyed, minimal healthcare, dying people everywhere, mass graves.

You're right, the human cost is shocking. It makes you wonder who in Gaza is holding out and fighting for what. Is holding the hostages really worth all of this?"

Not just hostages.

Plenty of maps online showing the exponential growth of illegal Israeli settlements taken by force on West Bank

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 48 weeks ago

nearby


"

It’s all deliberate, no verifiable media allowed there filming the executions

1.5 million displaced onto the largest concentration camp on the globe

30,000 dead, 60,000 injured, 17,000 orphans, 500,000 homes destroyed, minimal healthcare, dying people everywhere, mass graves.

You're right, the human cost is shocking. It makes you wonder who in Gaza is holding out and fighting for what. Is holding the hostages really worth all of this?"

50 Years of Settlements

600,000+

Jewish Israeli settlers living on occupied Palestinian land

100,000+

Hectares of land appropriated by Israel from Palestinians since 1967

50,000

Homes and structures demolished by Israel in the OPT over the past 50 years

4.9+ MILLION

Palestinians facing daily restrictions on their movement

Source amnesty international

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"

Aljazeera's footage, showing the start of the shooting while 1000's of starving people trying to get a bag of flour.

It does not show who is shooting at what and why. Have you even watched it?

While some people were on top of the lorries throwing flour bags at the crowd queuing around the lories. The Israeli drone footage confirms this.

Looting. Understandable given the desperate circumstances, but it's still a mob looting. No order or control. With the trucks mobbed (including on the cabin), it makes sense that civilian drivers would panic at some point.

This shows that the official BBC story that the lory drivers panicked and crashed into the crowds is a big fart lie.

No, it shows nothing if the sort. It shows a very limited (edited) snapshot."

You're making ZERO sense.

Here is the Israeli drone footage.

https://twitter.com/HenMazzig/status/1763197094804758858?t=NkZRMjHygxlCo1Qvp-uNXA&s=19

1- All 8 lorries were stationary and space between each other.

2- Looting is when you masses of people break into shops and steal tv's and valuable items. This is flour delivered for them. Calling them "Looting mob" is a sick psychopathic abhorrent way to describe people starved to death trying to get a bag of flour. I can't even find words to describe you.

3- The footage clearly show there is no stampede, not fighting over the food. Just crowds of starved people surrounding the lories waiting for a bag to be thrown at them, while there is guys on top trying to serve everyone. There is no better way in these circumstances where UNRUWA has been taken out the picture and No Hamas police to organise the distribution of food.

4- The only armed force present in the area is the Israeli Army. With their tanks. By the Admission of the BBC and every official account of the event. For you to pretend confused about who might be firing while the starved people waiting for a flour bag to be handed to them is shear stupidity and playing the fool.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 48 weeks ago

nearby

Israel has now taken 30 Palestinian lives, for each Israeli murdered by Hamas on 7 October

They have created the largest concentration camp on the globe.

Israel is now charactered as todays third reich

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


"

It’s all deliberate, no verifiable media allowed there filming the executions

1.5 million displaced onto the largest concentration camp on the globe

30,000 dead, 60,000 injured, 17,000 orphans, 500,000 homes destroyed, minimal healthcare, dying people everywhere, mass graves.

You're right, the human cost is shocking. It makes you wonder who in Gaza is holding out and fighting for what. Is holding the hostages really worth all of this?

50 Years of Settlements

600,000+

Jewish Israeli settlers living on occupied Palestinian land

100,000+

Hectares of land appropriated by Israel from Palestinians since 1967

50,000

Homes and structures demolished by Israel in the OPT over the past 50 years

4.9+ MILLION

Palestinians facing daily restrictions on their movement

Source amnesty international "

Sorry, was that a response to something specific?

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Israel has now taken 30 Palestinian lives, for each Israeli murdered by Hamas on 7 October

They have created the largest concentration camp on the globe.

Israel is now charactered as todays third reich "

Don't forget the axes allies of the 3rd Reich

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate

[Removed by poster at 01/03/24 11:32:50]

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate

As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


"

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

"

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 48 weeks ago

Border of London


"

2- Looting is when you masses of people break into shops and steal tv's and valuable items."

We really aren't going to agree here, on any of this.

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By *irldnCouple 48 weeks ago

Brighton


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history. "

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

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By *enSiskoMan 48 weeks ago

Cestus 3

https://youtu.be/fRn4qYAORAE?feature=shared

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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago

Looks like Isreal has increasingly tested what they can get away with..

And it's got the green light for on mass murder from the West.

I've held back on saying this before, but I agree that Isreal is now on par with the Nazis.

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By *otMe66Man 48 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Looks like Isreal has increasingly tested what they can get away with..

And it's got the green light for on mass murder from the West.

I've held back on saying this before, but I agree that Isreal is now on par with the Nazis.

"

In what way are they on par?

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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago

If hamas hand over the hostages, the IDF will then carpet bomb Gaza and then finish off any survivors with machine guns

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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago


"Looks like Isreal has increasingly tested what they can get away with..

And it's got the green light for on mass murder from the West.

I've held back on saying this before, but I agree that Isreal is now on par with the Nazis.

In what way are they on par?"

Concentration camps

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By *otMe66Man 48 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"If hamas hand over the hostages, the IDF will then carpet bomb Gaza and then finish off any survivors with machine guns"

Hold on, you must be making this up.

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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago


"If hamas hand over the hostages, the IDF will then carpet bomb Gaza and then finish off any survivors with machine guns

Hold on, you must be making this up."

They haven't done it yet .. just my opinion.. no journalists are allowed in remember ?

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims? "

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"If hamas hand over the hostages, the IDF will then carpet bomb Gaza and then finish off any survivors with machine guns"

Exactly

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"If hamas hand over the hostages, the IDF will then carpet bomb Gaza and then finish off any survivors with machine guns

Hold on, you must be making this up.

They haven't done it yet .. just my opinion.. no journalists are allowed in remember ?"

Over 130 journalists killed and some had their families killed as well

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By *entleman_spyMan 48 weeks ago

nearby


"If hamas hand over the hostages, the IDF will then carpet bomb Gaza and then finish off any survivors with machine guns

Hold on, you must be making this up.

They haven't done it yet .. just my opinion.. no journalists are allowed in remember ?

Over 130 journalists killed and some had their families killed as well "

"Journalists"

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"If hamas hand over the hostages, the IDF will then carpet bomb Gaza and then finish off any survivors with machine guns

Hold on, you must be making this up.

They haven't done it yet .. just my opinion.. no journalists are allowed in remember ?

Over 130 journalists killed and some had their families killed as well

"Journalists" "

?

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan 48 weeks ago

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The propaganda on both sides is at a all time high, Like a Hollywood movie at times, Send the Israelis to middle America and the Palestinians to whoever will take them and then nuke the fuck out the area, Problem solved, until the next conflict

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By *entleman_spyMan 48 weeks ago

nearby


"The propaganda on both sides is at a all time high, Like a Hollywood movie at times, Send the Israelis to middle America and the Palestinians to whoever will take them and then nuke the fuck out the area, Problem solved, until the next conflict "

No need to irradiate the land ..

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate

[Removed by poster at 01/03/24 20:08:44]

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"The propaganda on both sides is at a all time high, Like a Hollywood movie at times, Send the Israelis to middle America and the Palestinians to whoever will take them and then nuke the fuck out the area, Problem solved, until the next conflict "

Someone please install a communist small state between the USA and Canada and give them nukes

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By *otMe66Man 48 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"The propaganda on both sides is at a all time high, Like a Hollywood movie at times, Send the Israelis to middle America and the Palestinians to whoever will take them and then nuke the fuck out the area, Problem solved, until the next conflict

Someone please install a communist small state between the USA and Canada and give them nukes"

I think Rishi has been talking about you

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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago


"The propaganda on both sides is at a all time high, Like a Hollywood movie at times, Send the Israelis to middle America and the Palestinians to whoever will take them and then nuke the fuck out the area, Problem solved, until the next conflict

Someone please install a communist small state between the USA and Canada and give them nukes

I think Rishi has been talking about you"

Rishi is a complete arsehole.

Constantly referring to 7 October and ignoring the horrific scenes of collective punishment the isrealis meter out on a daily basis..

He's a puppet of the genocidal bastards in the isreali government

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 48 weeks ago

nearby

Many of the people treated for injuries following a rush on an aid convoy in Gaza on Thursday suffered gunshot wounds, the UN has said.

UN observers visited Gaza City's al-Shifa Hospital and saw some of the roughly 200 people still being treated.(BBC 02 March)

No doubts now then, shot while queuing for food.

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By *aGaGagging for itCouple 48 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

There is no truth in war.

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By *oan of DArcCouple 48 weeks ago

Glasgow


"The propaganda on both sides is at a all time high, Like a Hollywood movie at times, Send the Israelis to middle America and the Palestinians to whoever will take them and then nuke the fuck out the area, Problem solved, until the next conflict "

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If God exists their Humanity art project has failed, it should be screwed up and thrown back into the clay bin.

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By *irldnCouple 48 weeks ago

Brighton


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je"

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

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By *entleman_spyMan 48 weeks ago

nearby


"Many of the people treated for injuries following a rush on an aid convoy in Gaza on Thursday suffered gunshot wounds, the UN has said.

UN observers visited Gaza City's al-Shifa Hospital and saw some of the roughly 200 people still being treated.(BBC 02 March)

No doubts now then, shot while queuing for food. "

The people in gaza had guns too.

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By *estivalMan 48 weeks ago

borehamwood


"The propaganda on both sides is at a all time high, Like a Hollywood movie at times, Send the Israelis to middle America and the Palestinians to whoever will take them and then nuke the fuck out the area, Problem solved, until the next conflict

No need to irradiate the land .. "

of course there is, if its uninhabitable no one can live there problem solved

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!"

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

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By *irldnCouple 48 weeks ago

Brighton


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark....."

Why do the Palestinians then in your view?

You have just said the Jews were proto Muslims and descended from Adam and Eve so…?

You’ve previously talked about Canaanites. The fact is there is very little anthropological difference!

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By *irldnCouple 48 weeks ago

Brighton


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

Why do the Palestinians then in your view?

You have just said the Jews were proto Muslims and descended from Adam and Eve so…?

You’ve previously talked about Canaanites. The fact is there is very little anthropological difference!"

To add…

In early times, Palestine was inhabited by Semitic peoples, the earliest being the Canaanites. According to tradition, Abraham, the common ancestor of the Jews and the Arabs, came from Ur to Canaan.

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By *I TwoCouple 48 weeks ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

Hamas wanted to take charge of the food aid.

Starving people thought different

People got shot

Hmmm maybe I'm on the wrong track

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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark....."

The Earth belongs to everyone. As soon as we can reach a level of education that accepts that borders are nothing more than political lines drawn on a map, maybe we can really advance as humans

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By *uddy laneMan 48 weeks ago

dudley


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

The Earth belongs to everyone. As soon as we can reach a level of education that accepts that borders are nothing more than political lines drawn on a map, maybe we can really advance as humans "

The political class giving up their hegemonic lines, good luck.

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By *otMe66Man 48 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

The Earth belongs to everyone. As soon as we can reach a level of education that accepts that borders are nothing more than political lines drawn on a map, maybe we can really advance as humans "

Not a chance, borders are not the root cause of the problem, tribes are.

The troubles across the Middle East all come down to a splits in groups and new tribes forming

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By *irldnCouple 48 weeks ago

Brighton


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

The Earth belongs to everyone. As soon as we can reach a level of education that accepts that borders are nothing more than political lines drawn on a map, maybe we can really advance as humans

Not a chance, borders are not the root cause of the problem, tribes are.

The troubles across the Middle East all come down to a splits in groups and new tribes forming "

To be fair you see tribalism play out on the Fab Politics Forum all the time!

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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

The Earth belongs to everyone. As soon as we can reach a level of education that accepts that borders are nothing more than political lines drawn on a map, maybe we can really advance as humans

Not a chance, borders are not the root cause of the problem, tribes are.

The troubles across the Middle East all come down to a splits in groups and new tribes forming "

And as we’ve seen throughout human history, tribes merge and become societies. Its progress.

We’re not going to elevate to that level of education/acceptance in anyone’s lifetime here, but one day.

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By *otMe66Man 48 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

The Earth belongs to everyone. As soon as we can reach a level of education that accepts that borders are nothing more than political lines drawn on a map, maybe we can really advance as humans

Not a chance, borders are not the root cause of the problem, tribes are.

The troubles across the Middle East all come down to a splits in groups and new tribes forming

And as we’ve seen throughout human history, tribes merge and become societies. Its progress.

We’re not going to elevate to that level of education/acceptance in anyone’s lifetime here, but one day. "

I often think is the next step in human journey, evolving into a global social state or fighting for global domination.

It is a question for another thread...

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Hamas wanted to take charge of the food aid.

Starving people thought different

People got shot

Hmmm maybe I'm on the wrong track "

You're constant, just need to blame the Holocaust on the Jews to be perfectly consistant

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

The Earth belongs to everyone. As soon as we can reach a level of education that accepts that borders are nothing more than political lines

drawn on a map, maybe we can really advance as humans "

I agree that if 200 years ago you told someone, here is a nicely covered peace of paper that restricts your movement around the world, they might just shoot you on the spot

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By *andE2000Man 48 weeks ago

Bathgate


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

The Earth belongs to everyone. As soon as we can reach a level of education that accepts that borders are nothing more than political lines drawn on a map, maybe we can really advance as humans

Not a chance, borders are not the root cause of the problem, tribes are.

The troubles across the Middle East all come down to a splits in groups and new tribes forming "

Totally not what was on the linds of the colonial imperialist's minds when they created this Alien Apartheid entity in the mideast.

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By *otMe66Man 48 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

The Earth belongs to everyone. As soon as we can reach a level of education that accepts that borders are nothing more than political lines drawn on a map, maybe we can really advance as humans

Not a chance, borders are not the root cause of the problem, tribes are.

The troubles across the Middle East all come down to a splits in groups and new tribes forming

Totally not what was on the linds of the colonial imperialist's minds when they created this Alien Apartheid entity in the mideast.

"

The formation of sub tribes breaking from main tribes has alway happened.

The middle east is in fact a living example of tribal influences and the power of the tribe not to let go over thousands of years, it makes the troubles that were in Northern Island look like a bad hour in the office, the wars in Europe look like 10 year blip.

It is nonsense to keep looking to blame somebody else for the constant splits that keeps the momentum going, they are doing it all on their own...

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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

The Earth belongs to everyone. As soon as we can reach a level of education that accepts that borders are nothing more than political lines drawn on a map, maybe we can really advance as humans

Not a chance, borders are not the root cause of the problem, tribes are.

The troubles across the Middle East all come down to a splits in groups and new tribes forming

Totally not what was on the linds of the colonial imperialist's minds when they created this Alien Apartheid entity in the mideast.

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Segrigation in America at the time so didn't think of equal rights

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By *ortyairCouple 48 weeks ago

Wallasey


"As they say history repeats itself.

Almost 2000 years ago the Old Roman Empire commited a genocide in Palestine and Ethnically cleansed it from it's Muslim (The believing Jews back then) population.

The New Rome in Washington today is repeating the cycle of history.

How does this work? 600 years before Mohammed? You’re now saying the Jews were proto-muslims?

Yes, Islam started with Adam and Eve. Je

So by that rationale the Jews have as much right as the Palestinians to the land!

No they don't, just as the Budhists of Japan don't have a claim to India, just as the Romans don't have a claim to Britain, just as the Vatican doesn't have a claim to Palestine, just as the Anglo-Saxons don't have a claim to Danmark.....

The Earth belongs to everyone. As soon as we can reach a level of education that accepts that borders are nothing more than political lines drawn on a map, maybe we can really advance as humans

Not a chance, borders are not the root cause of the problem, tribes are.

The troubles across the Middle East all come down to a splits in groups and new tribes forming

Totally not what was on the linds of the colonial imperialist's minds when they created this Alien Apartheid entity in the mideast.

"

Haha you say some very funny things,

Mrs x

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By *abygirl6969TV/TS 47 weeks ago

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The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 47 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine. "

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

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By *idnightMischiefMan 47 weeks ago

London


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine. "

The accusation of genocide has been levied against Israel for years, and yet the population of the Palestinian territories just keeps on growing.

Meanwhile, 20% of the Israeli population are also of Arabic descent and have all the same rights as anyone else living there.

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


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Meanwhile, 20% of the Israeli population are also of Arabic descent and have all the same rights as anyone else living there.

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Is that the same rights in the sense that catholics had the same rights as Protestants in NI?

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By *idnightMischiefMan 47 weeks ago

London

It's also worth noting that the allied bombing raids of WW2 deliberately targeted civilians.

Over half a million people were killed.

Nobody called it a genocide and nobody demanded that the allies opened humane corridors or dropped in supplies.

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By *idnightMischiefMan 47 weeks ago

London


"Is that the same rights in the sense that catholics had the same rights as Protestants in NI?"

I don't know as Ireland isn't a special interest topic for me.

However, I’ve spent a decent amount of time studying the Palestine / Israel situation, and while I accept that prejudice exists, it exists everywhere in the world - that doesn't make it a matter of internal policy.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 47 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"It's also worth noting that the allied bombing raids of WW2 deliberately targeted civilians.

Over half a million people were killed.

Nobody called it a genocide and nobody demanded that the allies opened humane corridors or dropped in supplies."

It's a valid point..

After Guernica and Coventry the rules were torn up in relation to the direct targeting of civilian areas..

Purely to undermine moral but it failed..

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians.."

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

The accusation of genocide has been levied against Israel for years, and yet the population of the Palestinian territories just keeps on growing.

Meanwhile, 20% of the Israeli population are also of Arabic descent and have all the same rights as anyone else living there.

"

Cut the BS

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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"It's also worth noting that the allied bombing raids of WW2 deliberately targeted civilians.

Over half a million people were killed.

Nobody called it a genocide and nobody demanded that the allies opened humane corridors or dropped in supplies."

The Allies were just as bad as the nazis. They just happened to be the winners and wrote the history

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By *ortyairCouple 47 weeks ago

Wallasey


"It's also worth noting that the allied bombing raids of WW2 deliberately targeted civilians.

Over half a million people were killed.

Nobody called it a genocide and nobody demanded that the allies opened humane corridors or dropped in supplies.

The Allies were just as bad as the nazis. They just happened to be the winners and wrote the history "

You will say anything to support your anti West sentiments Mrs x

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 47 weeks ago

Border of London


"

The Allies were just as bad as the nazis. They just happened to be the winners and wrote the history "

That's a ridiculous statement. The ideology of Naziism was what made them so terrible. The Allies had no such ideology. The Nazis started the war, the Allies were not looking for war.

That statement is a testament to either an evil, or utterly deficient, intellect.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 47 weeks ago

Border of London


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...you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. "

No. There is a dictionary for just this purpose. You seem to be the one who shifts terms and meanings to suit your own ends, then get confused and frustrated when people call this out.

You've just done it above with the term "holocausted". You've repeatedly redefined the word "Jew" to suit whatever point you're trying to name. You decide what meaning you want to attribute to which word (usually for dramatic effect or to twist an argument). That's not how English works. That's not how discussion works.

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By *idnightMischiefMan 47 weeks ago

London


"

That's a ridiculous statement. The ideology of Naziism was what made them so terrible. The Allies had no such ideology. The Nazis started the war, the Allies were not looking for war.

That statement is a testament to either an evil, or utterly deficient, intellect."

He lies and twists facts frequently in these and similar threads - he seems to be ideologically possessed.

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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"It's also worth noting that the allied bombing raids of WW2 deliberately targeted civilians.

Over half a million people were killed.

Nobody called it a genocide and nobody demanded that the allies opened humane corridors or dropped in supplies.

The Allies were just as bad as the nazis. They just happened to be the winners and wrote the history You will say anything to support your anti West sentiments Mrs x"

It's not my fault fault the west has always been ruled by genocidal colonial racist bigoted elites.

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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...you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted.

No. There is a dictionary for just this purpose. You seem to be the one who shifts terms and meanings to suit your own ends, then get confused and frustrated when people call this out.

You've just done it above with the term "holocausted". You've repeatedly redefined the word "Jew" to suit whatever point you're trying to name. You decide what meaning you want to attribute to which word (usually for dramatic effect or to twist an argument). That's not how English works. That's not how discussion works."

At the end of the day, you're a pro genocide as long as it's Muslim children who are dying

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple 47 weeks ago

Border of London


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At the end of the day, you're a pro genocide as long as it's Muslim children who are dying"

Press the green arrow and demonstrate where such an accusation (pro genocide) is justified. Or shut up.

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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"

The Allies were just as bad as the nazis. They just happened to be the winners and wrote the history

That's a ridiculous statement. The ideology of Naziism was what made them so terrible. The Allies had no such ideology. The Nazis started the war, the Allies were not looking for war.

That statement is a testament to either an evil, or utterly deficient, intellect."

What was the ideology of Nazis that's so different from the Allies? They were all white colonial supremacists who are keen to commit genocides and drop atomic bombs on millions of civilians. Cowards who take their revenge on civilians

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"

The Allies were just as bad as the nazis. They just happened to be the winners and wrote the history

That's a ridiculous statement. The ideology of Naziism was what made them so terrible. The Allies had no such ideology. The Nazis started the war, the Allies were not looking for war.

That statement is a testament to either an evil, or utterly deficient, intellect.

What was the ideology of Nazis that's so different from the Allies? They were all white colonial supremacists who are keen to commit genocides and drop atomic bombs on millions of civilians. Cowards who take their revenge on civilians"

the allies lashed out at civilians because they wanted revenge and /or didn't see the as civilians but complicit in their governments attricties. Or something similar that suggests pots and kettles.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 47 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts. "

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 47 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"It's also worth noting that the allied bombing raids of WW2 deliberately targeted civilians.

Over half a million people were killed.

Nobody called it a genocide and nobody demanded that the allies opened humane corridors or dropped in supplies.

The Allies were just as bad as the nazis. They just happened to be the winners and wrote the history "

You are properly one twisted person.

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

"

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

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By *idnightMischiefMan 47 weeks ago

London


"At the end of the day, you're a pro genocide as long as it's Muslim children who are dying"

How do you feel about the 1000s of muslims killed by Isis, Alqueada or The Taliban in recent times?

Also, how do you feel about the 400 thousand Palestinians who were expelled from Kuwait for supporting Saddam Hussein?

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter. "

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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"At the end of the day, you're a pro genocide as long as it's Muslim children who are dying

How do you feel about the 1000s of muslims killed by Isis, Alqueada or The Taliban in recent times?

Also, how do you feel about the 400 thousand Palestinians who were expelled from Kuwait for supporting Saddam Hussein?"

ISIS and Alqaida were created and armed by the USA and Allies. Al

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side. "

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 47 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter. "

Hating a whole country is a pretty unstable thought process, it's akin to hating all doctors because of Shipman etc..

It will be the moderates in Israel that move things forward that might lead to a peace perhaps even a two state solution..

Why would you hate those who oppose Netanyahu and call for a ceasefire?

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By *idnightMischiefMan 47 weeks ago

London


"

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist."

Technically the Israelis never fought The British. The attacks on the British were mainly carried out by two terrorist groups, Irgun and Lehi, and they were both banned when Israel formed. They did not have widespread popular support.

Admittedly Irgun politicised and later blended into the Likud Party and I think that is contentious, but their existence proves that some Zionists were in a fight against colonialism, rather than being another European colonialist movement as some people suggest.

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By *idnightMischiefMan 47 weeks ago

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"At the end of the day, you're a pro genocide as long as it's Muslim children who are dying

How do you feel about the 1000s of muslims killed by Isis, Alqueada or The Taliban in recent times?

Also, how do you feel about the 400 thousand Palestinians who were expelled from Kuwait for supporting Saddam Hussein?

ISIS and Alqaida were created and armed by the USA and Allies. Al"

Again you did not answer the question.

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

"

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

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By *idnightMischiefMan 47 weeks ago

London


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

"

It is not an apartheid state, and it is a legal sovereign country, unlike Gaza or Judea and Samaria.

There were plenty of Arabs who saw Zionism as a good idea (google 'muslim support for zionism'), and the early settlers bought their own land, irrigated it, got rid of the malaria problem, built communities and even employed local Arab labour.

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

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"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state? "

By your Argument Nelson Mandela had no business fighting the Apartheid state, because those that were keeping it alive were not the same generation who created it

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

It is not an apartheid state, and it is a legal sovereign country, unlike Gaza or Judea and Samaria.

There were plenty of Arabs who saw Zionism as a good idea (google 'muslim support for zionism'), and the early settlers bought their own land, irrigated it, got rid of the malaria problem, built communities and even employed local Arab labour.

"

Lol, nice fiction

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

By your Argument Nelson Mandela had no business fighting the Apartheid state, because those that were keeping it alive were not the same generation who created it"

And you don’t know my opinion of Nelson Mandela.

I believe in talking, not violence. Don’t you?

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *mateur100Man 47 weeks ago

nr faversham

Is there an aid queue in Ukraine?

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

By your Argument Nelson Mandela had no business fighting the Apartheid state, because those that were keeping it alive were not the same generation who created it

And you don’t know my opinion of Nelson Mandela.

I believe in talking, not violence. Don’t you? "

Armed resistance to violent colonialism is a bsic human right according to international law, and according to every culture or moral code.

You don't talk with China when China invades the UK. You fight back. And if China respondes with a genocide. You don't call that "a conflict" and the UK resistance "terrorists" in that scenario.

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

By your Argument Nelson Mandela had no business fighting the Apartheid state, because those that were keeping it alive were not the same generation who created it

And you don’t know my opinion of Nelson Mandela.

I believe in talking, not violence. Don’t you?

Armed resistance to violent colonialism is a bsic human right according to international law, and according to every culture or moral code.

You don't talk with China when China invades the UK. You fight back. And if China respondes with a genocide. You don't call that "a conflict" and the UK resistance "terrorists" in that scenario.

"

Given the immense disparity in spending and in military capability, what is the end result of continued fighting between Palestine/Isreal?

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago

All wars end around a table with discussion. That’s how it works. And the longer you postpone that stage, the more innocent lives are lost.

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state? "

Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews. Who died 1000's of years ago and have almost nothing in common with them except the name.

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews. Who died 1000's of years ago and have almost nothing in common with them except the name. "

But that wasn’t what I asked, was it?

Who in either state is alive today who was anything to do with the creation of Israel?

At what point do people accept that continual war is futile?

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

By your Argument Nelson Mandela had no business fighting the Apartheid state, because those that were keeping it alive were not the same generation who created it

And you don’t know my opinion of Nelson Mandela.

I believe in talking, not violence. Don’t you?

Armed resistance to violent colonialism is a bsic human right according to international law, and according to every culture or moral code.

You don't talk with China when China invades the UK. You fight back. And if China respondes with a genocide. You don't call that "a conflict" and the UK resistance "terrorists" in that scenario.

Given the immense disparity in spending and in military capability, what is the end result of continued fighting between Palestine/Isreal?

"

The end game with an immoral entity who is determined to exterminate you in silence. At least you don't die as a coward, in silence.

The west is obssessed with disarming the Palestinian resistance so that Israel finishes them while everyone is looking away and distracted.

The hypocriwest's self claimed mask of democracy of human rights was exterminated in Gaza. That's something worth to die for.

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

By your Argument Nelson Mandela had no business fighting the Apartheid state, because those that were keeping it alive were not the same generation who created it

And you don’t know my opinion of Nelson Mandela.

I believe in talking, not violence. Don’t you?

Armed resistance to violent colonialism is a bsic human right according to international law, and according to every culture or moral code.

You don't talk with China when China invades the UK. You fight back. And if China respondes with a genocide. You don't call that "a conflict" and the UK resistance "terrorists" in that scenario.

Given the immense disparity in spending and in military capability, what is the end result of continued fighting between Palestine/Isreal?

The end game with an immoral entity who is determined to exterminate you in silence. At least you don't die as a coward, in silence.

"

What of the children on both sides who don’t want to die?

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By *idnightMischiefMan 47 weeks ago

London


"

Lol, nice fiction "

Everything I say can be backed up with verifiable records and evidence from numerous sources.

Your tinfoil is showing.

You'll be saying that The Protocols of The Elders of Zion is a historical document next.

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

By your Argument Nelson Mandela had no business fighting the Apartheid state, because those that were keeping it alive were not the same generation who created it

And you don’t know my opinion of Nelson Mandela.

I believe in talking, not violence. Don’t you?

Armed resistance to violent colonialism is a bsic human right according to international law, and according to every culture or moral code.

You don't talk with China when China invades the UK. You fight back. And if China respondes with a genocide. You don't call that "a conflict" and the UK resistance "terrorists" in that scenario.

Given the immense disparity in spending and in military capability, what is the end result of continued fighting between Palestine/Isreal?

The end game with an immoral entity who is determined to exterminate you in silence. At least you don't die as a coward, in silence.

What of the children on both sides who don’t want to die? "

Both sides?

This is like the NAZIS claiming to be the victims. Outrageous

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By *ortyairCouple 47 weeks ago

Wallasey


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

By your Argument Nelson Mandela had no business fighting the Apartheid state, because those that were keeping it alive were not the same generation who created it

And you don’t know my opinion of Nelson Mandela.

I believe in talking, not violence. Don’t you?

Armed resistance to violent colonialism is a bsic human right according to international law, and according to every culture or moral code.

You don't talk with China when China invades the UK. You fight back. And if China respondes with a genocide. You don't call that "a conflict" and the UK resistance "terrorists" in that scenario.

Given the immense disparity in spending and in military capability, what is the end result of continued fighting between Palestine/Isreal?

The end game with an immoral entity who is determined to exterminate you in silence. At least you don't die as a coward, in silence.

The west is obssessed with disarming the Palestinian resistance so that Israel finishes them while everyone is looking away and distracted.

The hypocriwest's self claimed mask of democracy of human rights was exterminated in Gaza. That's something worth to die for. "

Are you thinking of going over to Gaza to support Hamas, or are you going to bravely sit behind your keyboard, fighting from your bed room?

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 47 weeks ago

Wallasey

Palestinians are not the indigenous people from the area, get your facts straight,

Mrs x

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

By your Argument Nelson Mandela had no business fighting the Apartheid state, because those that were keeping it alive were not the same generation who created it

And you don’t know my opinion of Nelson Mandela.

I believe in talking, not violence. Don’t you?

Armed resistance to violent colonialism is a bsic human right according to international law, and according to every culture or moral code.

You don't talk with China when China invades the UK. You fight back. And if China respondes with a genocide. You don't call that "a conflict" and the UK resistance "terrorists" in that scenario.

Given the immense disparity in spending and in military capability, what is the end result of continued fighting between Palestine/Isreal?

The end game with an immoral entity who is determined to exterminate you in silence. At least you don't die as a coward, in silence.

What of the children on both sides who don’t want to die?

Both sides?

This is like the NAZIS claiming to be the victims. Outrageous "

Are Israeli children not innocent then?

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Palestinians are not the indigenous people from the area, get your facts straight,

Mrs x"

Lol

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

By your Argument Nelson Mandela had no business fighting the Apartheid state, because those that were keeping it alive were not the same generation who created it

And you don’t know my opinion of Nelson Mandela.

I believe in talking, not violence. Don’t you?

Armed resistance to violent colonialism is a bsic human right according to international law, and according to every culture or moral code.

You don't talk with China when China invades the UK. You fight back. And if China respondes with a genocide. You don't call that "a conflict" and the UK resistance "terrorists" in that scenario.

Given the immense disparity in spending and in military capability, what is the end result of continued fighting between Palestine/Isreal?

The end game with an immoral entity who is determined to exterminate you in silence. At least you don't die as a coward, in silence.

What of the children on both sides who don’t want to die?

Both sides?

This is like the NAZIS claiming to be the victims. Outrageous

Are Israeli children not innocent then? "

Nobody is targeting their children

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

By your Argument Nelson Mandela had no business fighting the Apartheid state, because those that were keeping it alive were not the same generation who created it

And you don’t know my opinion of Nelson Mandela.

I believe in talking, not violence. Don’t you?

Armed resistance to violent colonialism is a bsic human right according to international law, and according to every culture or moral code.

You don't talk with China when China invades the UK. You fight back. And if China respondes with a genocide. You don't call that "a conflict" and the UK resistance "terrorists" in that scenario.

Given the immense disparity in spending and in military capability, what is the end result of continued fighting between Palestine/Isreal?

The end game with an immoral entity who is determined to exterminate you in silence. At least you don't die as a coward, in silence.

What of the children on both sides who don’t want to die?

Both sides?

This is like the NAZIS claiming to be the victims. Outrageous

Are Israeli children not innocent then?

Nobody is targeting their children "

Are children immune from rockets?

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By *ikeSM23Man 47 weeks ago

Manchester


"Israeli soldiers have murdered another 100 civilians

This time they were queuing for aid

Is Sunak still ‘I hope you win’ "

A literal take on this post surely asks …. Which aspect of War is not understood here and why is the uk gov complicit?

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By *idnightMischiefMan 47 weeks ago

London


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews."

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

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By *enSiskoMan 47 weeks ago

Cestus 3

I see that Israels credit rating has been downgraded, due to its war efforts.

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land."

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

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By *estivalMan 47 weeks ago

borehamwood


"The world is actively supporting the genocide of an entire population. Free Palestine.

It's really not though, it's not doing enough to stop the conflict that's obvious but if the right wingers supporting Netanyahu won't even listen to their biggest backers how much actual influence does anyone other than the USA have?

The states are in a rock and a hard place, if they weren't there now it's likely starting with Hezbollah and then other Iran controlled terrorists the conflict would have spread which is no one's interests let alone the Palestinians..

Funny how you carecature the people who are comittibg a genocide as nothing more than one side of a "conflict" while at the same time you're quick to call those defending their lands and freedom "Terrorists"

The terminology gets shifted depending which people/race/religion are being holocausted. If it's Muslims who are being slaughtered, si it's a conflict. If the Muslim resistant score points in the battle, then they are terrirists and the colonial perpetrators of ethnic cleaning are just a side of a conflict defending themselves.

The mindset of a racist works in mysterious ways. Or not

Wars against children are not "conflicts". Genocided are not conflicts.

They are terrorists, as we're the Israeli's when they were fighting the British..

Mate fuck off, your an apologist and supporter of Hamas whose hatred of Israel is plain to see on here..

You've no right to call anyone a racist..

Hating Irael is for moral people. You're clearly not one of them. Genocide supporter.

Hating ‘Israel’ is as bad as hating ‘Palestine’ - both are full of innocent people who actually don’t want to kill, die, or live in a warzone.

I hate the perpetrators of, and supporters of continued conflict on both side.

Israel is an illegal Apartheid racist Zionist colonial settlers state by excelence based on the ideology of ethnicity cleansing the indiginous rightful owners of the land. And currently committing a genocide.

Who alive in Isreal today had anything to do with the creation of the state?

Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews. Who died 1000's of years ago and have almost nothing in common with them except the name. "

ah rite so there arguing over whos imaginary friend gave who the land, for somewhere that is the so called holly land its been drenched in blood for centuries, and if whatever god anyone follows is ok with that then thank fuck i dont belive in those fairy tales

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By *estivalMan 47 weeks ago

borehamwood


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

"

god also isnt real

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

"

Are children (Palestinian or Israeli) immune to rockets? I can’t help but notice you didn’t answer that last night.

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

"

Why are Muslims right about their God, but the thousands of other Gods that have been worshipped by humans aren’t real?

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

Why are Muslims right about their God, but the thousands of other Gods that have been worshipped by humans aren’t real? "

You want to turn this thread into a debate for or against the existance of God?

I have noticed a lot of people have a problem staying on topic

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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago


"

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

Why are Muslims right about their God, but the thousands of other Gods that have been worshipped by humans aren’t real?

You want to turn this thread into a debate for or against the existance of God?

I have noticed a lot of people have a problem staying on topic"

I’m still waiting for you to answer my question re: innocent children being immune to rockets

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

Are children (Palestinian or Israeli) immune to rockets? I can’t help but notice you didn’t answer that last night. "

No they're not immune. If you take my house, put me in a prison, then bomb the prison on a regular basis to force me to choose between death and leaving the land all together, don't expect me not to send rockets. Take your kids back to Europe, out my house and they'll be safe. You put them in harms way by bribging thel to a battlefield of invasion.

The Rockets hardly kill any children.

It's amazing when western armies carpet bomb entire vilages in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen killing millions of millions and call that "collateral damage". Then cry gerrorism when people retaliate in defense of their land

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By *ortyairCouple 47 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

"

Muslims didn't even exist at the time of Moses, you say the silliest things, Mrs x

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

Muslims didn't even exist at the time of Moses, you say the silliest things, Mrs x"

Moses is a Prophet of God in Islam. And his followers are Muslims by definition.

Mohammed is not the first Prophet in Islam. He's the last one. You have no clue about this subject.

Islam is not a racist religion. The Quran doesn't even address the Arabs. It addresses mankind.

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By *irldnCouple 47 weeks ago

Brighton


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

Are children (Palestinian or Israeli) immune to rockets? I can’t help but notice you didn’t answer that last night.

No they're not immune. If you take my house, put me in a prison, then bomb the prison on a regular basis to force me to choose between death and leaving the land all together, don't expect me not to send rockets. Take your kids back to Europe, out my house and they'll be safe. You put them in harms way by bribging thel to a battlefield of invasion.

The Rockets hardly kill any children.

It's amazing when western armies carpet bomb entire vilages in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen killing millions of millions and call that "collateral damage". Then cry gerrorism when people retaliate in defense of their land"

So you continue to argue over legitimate right/ownership of the land called either Israel or Palestine. You conveniently ignore the Jewish Diaspora (when you talk about Europeans). You previously argued re Canaanites which was flawed as both Jews and Arabs are descended (traditionally from Abraham) so genetically and anthropologically no difference. Your arguments are flawed regarding “right to the land”. I would say they have equal rights!

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By *ortyairCouple 47 weeks ago

Wallasey

Musa is one of the 4 major prophets in the Quran. But they don't say he is a Muslim.

And Muslims do practice racism like all religions.

You follow a child sex abuser, rapist, as your major Messenger.

Funny how he didn't get a message from Allah to not fuck children. Strange that...

Mrs x

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By *irldnCouple 47 weeks ago

Brighton


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

Muslims didn't even exist at the time of Moses, you say the silliest things, Mrs x

Moses is a Prophet of God in Islam. And his followers are Muslims by definition.

Mohammed is not the first Prophet in Islam. He's the last one. You have no clue about this subject.

Islam is not a racist religion. The Quran doesn't even address the Arabs. It addresses mankind.

"

Mohammed was very clever in that regard by providing a route that can encompass previous/older abrahamic religions but saying this is it now, we have reached the apogee, I am the last. But how do we know he was the last? Maybe another religious movement will arise in coming centuries that says Mohammed was the penultimate prophet as I am the last and THIS is what God really says!

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By *ortyairCouple 47 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

Are children (Palestinian or Israeli) immune to rockets? I can’t help but notice you didn’t answer that last night.

No they're not immune. If you take my house, put me in a prison, then bomb the prison on a regular basis to force me to choose between death and leaving the land all together, don't expect me not to send rockets. Take your kids back to Europe, out my house and they'll be safe. You put them in harms way by bribging thel to a battlefield of invasion.

The Rockets hardly kill any children.

It's amazing when western armies carpet bomb entire vilages in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen killing millions of millions and call that "collateral damage". Then cry gerrorism when people retaliate in defense of their land

So you continue to argue over legitimate right/ownership of the land called either Israel or Palestine. You conveniently ignore the Jewish Diaspora (when you talk about Europeans). You previously argued re Canaanites which was flawed as both Jews and Arabs are descended (traditionally from Abraham) so genetically and anthropologically no difference. Your arguments are flawed regarding “right to the land”. I would say they have equal rights!"

Palestinians have never 'owned" Palenstine, Isralites have claims going back thousands of years,

Mrs x

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

Are children (Palestinian or Israeli) immune to rockets? I can’t help but notice you didn’t answer that last night.

No they're not immune. If you take my house, put me in a prison, then bomb the prison on a regular basis to force me to choose between death and leaving the land all together, don't expect me not to send rockets. Take your kids back to Europe, out my house and they'll be safe. You put them in harms way by bribging thel to a battlefield of invasion.

The Rockets hardly kill any children.

It's amazing when western armies carpet bomb entire vilages in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen killing millions of millions and call that "collateral damage". Then cry gerrorism when people retaliate in defense of their land

So you continue to argue over legitimate right/ownership of the land called either Israel or Palestine. You conveniently ignore the Jewish Diaspora (when you talk about Europeans). You previously argued re Canaanites which was flawed as both Jews and Arabs are descended (traditionally from Abraham) so genetically and anthropologically no difference. Your arguments are flawed regarding “right to the land”. I would say they have equal rights!"

The "Jews" that created Zionism aren't the Children of the Cananites, nor the the descendants of ancient Israelites.

If we go by decendancy logic, Palestinians have much more ancient Israelites DNA in their veins than those who call themselves "Jews" today. If someone calls himself "Marxist" that doesn't make him the descendant of Charl Marx.

The diaspora happened 2000 years ago. And before that they came from Egypt and were lost in the Arabian desert for 40 years, then they invaded the land of Canan/Palestine. Then they ruled over the Palestinians for few generations, then they were expelled by the Babilinians, then they returned under the Rule of the Persians, then they were expelled again by the Romans.

Their entire history since Abraham is a history of diaspora. They have zero claim to that land on the basis of the last diaspora.

They lived under other empires for 90% of their history. Some were hostile and cruel to them, like the European Christians. But they had a prosperous life under Islam, and since WW2 they've become the priviliged superior ethnic group in the west. They are not under threat in the west.

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By *andE2000Man 47 weeks ago

Bathgate


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

Are children (Palestinian or Israeli) immune to rockets? I can’t help but notice you didn’t answer that last night.

No they're not immune. If you take my house, put me in a prison, then bomb the prison on a regular basis to force me to choose between death and leaving the land all together, don't expect me not to send rockets. Take your kids back to Europe, out my house and they'll be safe. You put them in harms way by bribging thel to a battlefield of invasion.

The Rockets hardly kill any children.

It's amazing when western armies carpet bomb entire vilages in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen killing millions of millions and call that "collateral damage". Then cry gerrorism when people retaliate in defense of their land

So you continue to argue over legitimate right/ownership of the land called either Israel or Palestine. You conveniently ignore the Jewish Diaspora (when you talk about Europeans). You previously argued re Canaanites which was flawed as both Jews and Arabs are descended (traditionally from Abraham) so genetically and anthropologically no difference. Your arguments are flawed regarding “right to the land”. I would say they have equal rights!

The "Jews" that created Zionism aren't the Children of the Cananites, nor the the descendants of ancient Israelites.

If we go by decendancy logic, Palestinians have much more ancient Israelites DNA in their veins than those who call themselves "Jews" today. If someone calls himself "Marxist" that doesn't make him the descendant of Charl Marx.

The diaspora happened 2000 years ago. And before that they came from Egypt and were lost in the Arabian desert for 40 years, then they invaded the land of Canan/Palestine. Then they ruled over the Palestinians for few generations, then they were expelled by the Babilinians, then they returned under the Rule of the Persians, then they were expelled again by the Romans.

Their entire history since Abraham is a history of diaspora. They have zero claim to that land on the basis of the last diaspora.

They lived under other empires for 90% of their history. Some were hostile and cruel to them, like the European Christians. But they had a prosperous life under Islam, and since WW2 they've become the priviliged superior ethnic group in the west. They are not under threat in the west. "

Also what it means to be "Jew" today is NOT what it meant 2000 years ago.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 47 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Those who only know how to hate will be poisoned from within by their very own irrational, negativity..

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By *ortyairCouple 47 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Those who are alive today claim they have ownership of the land by a divine estate contract sign by God 3000 years ago with a people who were called Jews.

In all fairness, this is also in the Quran, although many Muslims try to explain it away by adding false context:

Sura 5.21

:My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers."

As you will already know, Allah (God) is talking to The Israelites and assigning them The Promised Land.

God's people are the believers who submit to God and follow the Messenger. In other words the Muslims. Not Atheist who don't believe in God yet they believe God gave them the land.

The Children of Israel were the Muslims during the time of Moses.

Then the Children of Israel Split between followers of Jesus and the disbelievers and God punished them for their rebelion and trying to kill the Messengers.

God is not racist.

Are children (Palestinian or Israeli) immune to rockets? I can’t help but notice you didn’t answer that last night.

No they're not immune. If you take my house, put me in a prison, then bomb the prison on a regular basis to force me to choose between death and leaving the land all together, don't expect me not to send rockets. Take your kids back to Europe, out my house and they'll be safe. You put them in harms way by bribging thel to a battlefield of invasion.

The Rockets hardly kill any children.

It's amazing when western armies carpet bomb entire vilages in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen killing millions of millions and call that "collateral damage". Then cry gerrorism when people retaliate in defense of their land

So you continue to argue over legitimate right/ownership of the land called either Israel or Palestine. You conveniently ignore the Jewish Diaspora (when you talk about Europeans). You previously argued re Canaanites which was flawed as both Jews and Arabs are descended (traditionally from Abraham) so genetically and anthropologically no difference. Your arguments are flawed regarding “right to the land”. I would say they have equal rights!

The "Jews" that created Zionism aren't the Children of the Cananites, nor the the descendants of ancient Israelites.

If we go by decendancy logic, Palestinians have much more ancient Israelites DNA in their veins than those who call themselves "Jews" today. If someone calls himself "Marxist" that doesn't make him the descendant of Charl Marx.

The diaspora happened 2000 years ago. And before that they came from Egypt and were lost in the Arabian desert for 40 years, then they invaded the land of Canan/Palestine. Then they ruled over the Palestinians for few generations, then they were expelled by the Babilinians, then they returned under the Rule of the Persians, then they were expelled again by the Romans.

Their entire history since Abraham is a history of diaspora. They have zero claim to that land on the basis of the last diaspora.

They lived under other empires for 90% of their history. Some were hostile and cruel to them, like the European Christians. But they had a prosperous life under Islam, and since WW2 they've become the priviliged superior ethnic group in the west. They are not under threat in the west. "

Palestine only became a name for the region under Roman Occupation when it was split in two and ceded to Syria and Egypt.

Palestinians, as one people, never existed until fairly recently to separate themselves from other Jordanians they were battling.

They cannot claim more rights to the land than the Jews, if both the Palestine people and Palestine didn't exist when the Jews first occupied the land.

Name one Palestinian King or a war that the country of Palestine fought against another nation. You can't because neither existed.

You'll be saying Mohammed was a child rapist and murderer next,

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