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"Cameron visits Falklands. First minister to go there since 2016. Another territory the Brits should hand back. "
Hand back to who? It's my understanding that they were uninhabited until the British landed there. |
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"Cameron visits Falklands. First minister to go there since 2016. Another territory the Brits should hand back. "
What is the will of the inhabitants of this area (for ~200 years) that sits 300 miles east of Argentina? Shouldn't they decide? |
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"Cameron visits Falklands. First minister to go there since 2016. Another territory the Brits should hand back.
What is the will of the inhabitants of this area (for ~200 years) that sits 300 miles east of Argentina? Shouldn't they decide?"
It's down to the people of the island let them have a vote easy.
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"Cameron visits Falklands. First minister to go there since 2016. Another territory the Brits should hand back."
Before the flood of posts in disagreement - why do you think that the Falklands should be handed back, and who to? |
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"The first settlement of the Falklands was by the French in 1764"
But they didn't want it and left... The British landed there in the 1600s and also didn't seriously settle it either. It is only 300 miles from Argentina but they didn't bother going there until 1982. |
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By *aygee246Man 43 weeks ago
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"Cameron visits Falklands. First minister to go there since 2016. Another territory the Brits should hand back.
What is the will of the inhabitants of this area (for ~200 years) that sits 300 miles east of Argentina? Shouldn't they decide?
It's down to the people of the island let them have a vote easy.
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They did have a vote in 2013 and they voted overwhelmingly to remain British.
Cameron is right to say the Falkland Islands sovereignty is not up for discussion. |
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"Cameron visits Falklands. First minister to go there since 2016. Another territory the Brits should hand back.
What is the will of the inhabitants of this area (for ~200 years) that sits 300 miles east of Argentina? Shouldn't they decide?
It's down to the people of the island let them have a vote easy.
They did have a vote in 2013 and they voted overwhelmingly to remain British.
Cameron is right to say the Falkland Islands sovereignty is not up for discussion."
Exactly. Colonialism was often unjust, evil and bad, yes. That does not mean that absolutist anti-colonialism is necessarily just, right and good. |
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A few years ago I went to the Falklands on several occasions. The people who live there consider themselves to be British. They do not want Argentina taking over their islands. So why should we give it away?
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"A few years ago I went to the Falklands on several occasions. The people who live there consider themselves to be British. They do not want Argentina taking over their islands. So why should we give it away?
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They might do soon, now that they have Milei  |
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"We need to keep hold of it for a number of reasons.
The people there voted to keep it British.
There are untapped resources in the surrounding seas  "
If the people want it that's fine.
Any resources should only go back in to the island. |
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By (user no longer on site) 43 weeks ago
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The islanders living on the land should have a say, and they did. They want the umbrella of UK protection and the UK gets oil rights.
The Argies should focus on fixing their domestic problems as opposed to the distraction tactics of Las Malvinas.
Speaking of distraction tactics, what are our government wasting our tax payers money on these days? |
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By (user no longer on site) 43 weeks ago
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I was in Argentina recently and they still have the Islas Malvinas posters around the place.
The funny thing is if they hadn't invaded back then there's a good chance the UK would have given them the islands eventually. That won't happen now. |
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By *otMe66Man 43 weeks ago
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?"
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. |
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. "
and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money |
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer."
"Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?"
"Do you think thats value for money ?"
Hard to say since you've given us no idea what that £25k is supposed to pay for. Is that just flights, or does it include accommodation? How many people did that £25k cover? Do you have any proof at all that the £25k figure is even close to being accurate?
He almost certainly went on the twice-weekly MoD flight from Brize Norton. Since that flight would have happened anyway, you could say that he flew there for free.
If you can demonstrate that it did cost £25k, and work out what was paid for, and figure out how many people went over, I'll tell you whether I think that's good value or not. |
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Hard to say since you've given us no idea what that £25k is supposed to pay for. Is that just flights, or does it include accommodation? How many people did that £25k cover? Do you have any proof at all that the £25k figure is even close to being accurate?
He almost certainly went on the twice-weekly MoD flight from Brize Norton. Since that flight would have happened anyway, you could say that he flew there for free.
If you can demonstrate that it did cost £25k, and work out what was paid for, and figure out how many people went over, I'll tell you whether I think that's good value or not."
It wasnt me who mentioned £25k |
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. "
That's a lot of footie..
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer."
"Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?"
"Do you think thats value for money ?"
"Hard to say since you've given us no idea what that £25k is supposed to pay for. Is that just flights, or does it include accommodation? How many people did that £25k cover? Do you have any proof at all that the £25k figure is even close to being accurate?
He almost certainly went on the twice-weekly MoD flight from Brize Norton. Since that flight would have happened anyway, you could say that he flew there for free.
If you can demonstrate that it did cost £25k, and work out what was paid for, and figure out how many people went over, I'll tell you whether I think that's good value or not."
"It wasnt me who mentioned £25k "
But it was you that asked if it was value for money, and I won't be able to answer that until I get some more information. |
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"I was in Argentina recently and they still have the Islas Malvinas posters around the place.
The funny thing is if they hadn't invaded back then there's a good chance the UK would have given them the islands eventually. That won't happen now. "
President Leopoldo Galtieri and the military junta was getting very unpopular in Argentina and needed a war to unite the people behind them. They had been claiming the Islas Malvinas for years so in 1982 they tried, and failed.
Whilst the relationship between the Falklands and Argentina in the 1970s and early 80s was much closer than now, I don't think the Falkland islanders wanted to become part of Argentina. There is also oil off the coast and Thatcher was very aware of it.
The Falklands are like Gibraltar in a way. The people want to remain British. It is not a case of handing them back, however much the Argentines think they want them. |
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By *otMe66Man 43 weeks ago
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money "
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money. |
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money."
Surely that depends on what was achieved during the trip?
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By *otMe66Man 43 weeks ago
Terra Firma |
"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
Surely that depends on what was achieved during the trip?
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Arguing for the sake of it again  UK foreign minister visits Falklands. The Foreign Secretary will meet Falkland Islanders and see their work to build a thriving community and protect their natural environment
he will reiterate the UK’s commitment to uphold the Islanders’ right of self-determination
he will then travel onwards to Paraguay, Brazil for the G20 and New York for the UN |
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By (user no longer on site) 43 weeks ago
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
Surely that depends on what was achieved during the trip?
Arguing for the sake of it again UK foreign minister visits Falklands. The Foreign Secretary will meet Falkland Islanders and see their work to build a thriving community and protect their natural environment
he will reiterate the UK’s commitment to uphold the Islanders’ right of self-determination
he will then travel onwards to Paraguay, Brazil for the G20 and New York for the UN"
I was being slightly facetious, true - I’m sure this stuff does cost an arm and a leg with security and so forth.
TBF I have far more faith in Cameron as foreign secretary than Cekevrly before him. A more useless wanker I could not imagine. |
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By (user no longer on site) 43 weeks ago
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"I was in Argentina recently and they still have the Islas Malvinas posters around the place.
The funny thing is if they hadn't invaded back then there's a good chance the UK would have given them the islands eventually. That won't happen now.
President Leopoldo Galtieri and the military junta was getting very unpopular in Argentina and needed a war to unite the people behind them. They had been claiming the Islas Malvinas for years so in 1982 they tried, and failed.
Whilst the relationship between the Falklands and Argentina in the 1970s and early 80s was much closer than now, I don't think the Falkland islanders wanted to become part of Argentina. There is also oil off the coast and Thatcher was very aware of it.
The Falklands are like Gibraltar in a way. The people want to remain British. It is not a case of handing them back, however much the Argentines think they want them. "
Interestingly enough a good chunk of Falkland Islanders have Gibraltan heritage |
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"I was in Argentina recently and they still have the Islas Malvinas posters around the place.
The funny thing is if they hadn't invaded back then there's a good chance the UK would have given them the islands eventually. That won't happen now.
President Leopoldo Galtieri and the military junta was getting very unpopular in Argentina and needed a war to unite the people behind them. They had been claiming the Islas Malvinas for years so in 1982 they tried, and failed.
Whilst the relationship between the Falklands and Argentina in the 1970s and early 80s was much closer than now, I don't think the Falkland islanders wanted to become part of Argentina. There is also oil off the coast and Thatcher was very aware of it.
The Falklands are like Gibraltar in a way. The people want to remain British. It is not a case of handing them back, however much the Argentines think they want them.
Interestingly enough a good chunk of Falkland Islanders have Gibraltan heritage "
They are an interesting mix but very resourceful people. |
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money."
When will you guys realise that the camper van etc. was bought with SNP funds donated by SNP supporters..... Not taxpayers money.... Yet the people who complain about it convenient turn a blind eye to the millions or maybe billions of taxpayers pounds diverted to people like Michelle Mone etc. |
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By *otMe66Man 43 weeks ago
Terra Firma |
"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
When will you guys realise that the camper van etc. was bought with SNP funds donated by SNP supporters..... Not taxpayers money.... Yet the people who complain about it convenient turn a blind eye to the millions or maybe billions of taxpayers pounds diverted to people like Michelle Mone etc. "
interesting that SNP can spend the money donated on whatever they want, do they also have the £41 billion from the government to play with too?
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
When will you guys realise that the camper van etc. was bought with SNP funds donated by SNP supporters..... Not taxpayers money.... Yet the people who complain about it convenient turn a blind eye to the millions or maybe billions of taxpayers pounds diverted to people like Michelle Mone etc.
interesting that SNP can spend the money donated on whatever they want, do they also have the £41 billion from the government to play with too?
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I dishy say they can spend it on whatever they want... Just said it is their money that you are getting your knickers on a twist about. You were comparing it to government money that was spent on a trip. £41 billion from the government? Do you mean the Scottish taxpayers money that is given back to us? |
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By *otMe66Man 43 weeks ago
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
When will you guys realise that the camper van etc. was bought with SNP funds donated by SNP supporters..... Not taxpayers money.... Yet the people who complain about it convenient turn a blind eye to the millions or maybe billions of taxpayers pounds diverted to people like Michelle Mone etc.
interesting that SNP can spend the money donated on whatever they want, do they also have the £41 billion from the government to play with too?
I dishy say they can spend it on whatever they want... Just said it is their money that you are getting your knickers on a twist about. You were comparing it to government money that was spent on a trip. £41 billion from the government? Do you mean the Scottish taxpayers money that is given back to us? "
I was simply pointing out that a trip by the foreign minister that takes in the Falklands on the way to Paraguay and Brazil is a very good use of the money, and comparing it to the expenses of 11K for watching football on an ipad in Morocco that "was signed off" by the SNP leader, seems excellent value for money.
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
When will you guys realise that the camper van etc. was bought with SNP funds donated by SNP supporters..... Not taxpayers money.... Yet the people who complain about it convenient turn a blind eye to the millions or maybe billions of taxpayers pounds diverted to people like Michelle Mone etc.
interesting that SNP can spend the money donated on whatever they want, do they also have the £41 billion from the government to play with too?
I dishy say they can spend it on whatever they want... Just said it is their money that you are getting your knickers on a twist about. You were comparing it to government money that was spent on a trip. £41 billion from the government? Do you mean the Scottish taxpayers money that is given back to us?
I was simply pointing out that a trip by the foreign minister that takes in the Falklands on the way to Paraguay and Brazil is a very good use of the money, and comparing it to the expenses of 11K for watching football on an ipad in Morocco that "was signed off" by the SNP leader, seems excellent value for money.
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has the £11k you are so fixated on been paid back ,yes or no ? |
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By *otMe66Man 43 weeks ago
Terra Firma |
"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
When will you guys realise that the camper van etc. was bought with SNP funds donated by SNP supporters..... Not taxpayers money.... Yet the people who complain about it convenient turn a blind eye to the millions or maybe billions of taxpayers pounds diverted to people like Michelle Mone etc.
interesting that SNP can spend the money donated on whatever they want, do they also have the £41 billion from the government to play with too?
I dishy say they can spend it on whatever they want... Just said it is their money that you are getting your knickers on a twist about. You were comparing it to government money that was spent on a trip. £41 billion from the government? Do you mean the Scottish taxpayers money that is given back to us?
I was simply pointing out that a trip by the foreign minister that takes in the Falklands on the way to Paraguay and Brazil is a very good use of the money, and comparing it to the expenses of 11K for watching football on an ipad in Morocco that "was signed off" by the SNP leader, seems excellent value for money.
has the £11k you are so fixated on been paid back ,yes or no ?"
Value for money is what you asked you are moving the goalposts, do you think it was value for money to go through expenses? |
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
When will you guys realise that the camper van etc. was bought with SNP funds donated by SNP supporters..... Not taxpayers money.... Yet the people who complain about it convenient turn a blind eye to the millions or maybe billions of taxpayers pounds diverted to people like Michelle Mone etc.
interesting that SNP can spend the money donated on whatever they want, do they also have the £41 billion from the government to play with too?
I dishy say they can spend it on whatever they want... Just said it is their money that you are getting your knickers on a twist about. You were comparing it to government money that was spent on a trip. £41 billion from the government? Do you mean the Scottish taxpayers money that is given back to us?
I was simply pointing out that a trip by the foreign minister that takes in the Falklands on the way to Paraguay and Brazil is a very good use of the money, and comparing it to the expenses of 11K for watching football on an ipad in Morocco that "was signed off" by the SNP leader, seems excellent value for money.
has the £11k you are so fixated on been paid back ,yes or no ?
Value for money is what you asked you are moving the goalposts, do you think it was value for money to go through expenses?"
the value for money was to do with the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands,you were the one who brought up the £11k are you that obbsessed with the snp that you bring them up in most threads i comment on |
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By *otMe66Man 43 weeks ago
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
When will you guys realise that the camper van etc. was bought with SNP funds donated by SNP supporters..... Not taxpayers money.... Yet the people who complain about it convenient turn a blind eye to the millions or maybe billions of taxpayers pounds diverted to people like Michelle Mone etc.
interesting that SNP can spend the money donated on whatever they want, do they also have the £41 billion from the government to play with too?
I dishy say they can spend it on whatever they want... Just said it is their money that you are getting your knickers on a twist about. You were comparing it to government money that was spent on a trip. £41 billion from the government? Do you mean the Scottish taxpayers money that is given back to us?
I was simply pointing out that a trip by the foreign minister that takes in the Falklands on the way to Paraguay and Brazil is a very good use of the money, and comparing it to the expenses of 11K for watching football on an ipad in Morocco that "was signed off" by the SNP leader, seems excellent value for money.
has the £11k you are so fixated on been paid back ,yes or no ?
Value for money is what you asked you are moving the goalposts, do you think it was value for money to go through expenses? the value for money was to do with the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands,you were the one who brought up the £11k are you that obbsessed with the snp that you bring them up in most threads i comment on "
It is in the tread, you asked do you think it is value for money. I answered that it is compared to other expenses I have seen submitted and gave an example.
The trip is covering 4 countries and there was only mention of 25K from 1 poster, I personally think it would cost more than that to get from UK - Falklands - Paraguay - Brazil - New York and back to UK.
Still worth it though.
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
When will you guys realise that the camper van etc. was bought with SNP funds donated by SNP supporters..... Not taxpayers money.... Yet the people who complain about it convenient turn a blind eye to the millions or maybe billions of taxpayers pounds diverted to people like Michelle Mone etc.
interesting that SNP can spend the money donated on whatever they want, do they also have the £41 billion from the government to play with too?
I dishy say they can spend it on whatever they want... Just said it is their money that you are getting your knickers on a twist about. You were comparing it to government money that was spent on a trip. £41 billion from the government? Do you mean the Scottish taxpayers money that is given back to us?
I was simply pointing out that a trip by the foreign minister that takes in the Falklands on the way to Paraguay and Brazil is a very good use of the money, and comparing it to the expenses of 11K for watching football on an ipad in Morocco that "was signed off" by the SNP leader, seems excellent value for money.
has the £11k you are so fixated on been paid back ,yes or no ?
Value for money is what you asked you are moving the goalposts, do you think it was value for money to go through expenses? the value for money was to do with the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands,you were the one who brought up the £11k are you that obbsessed with the snp that you bring them up in most threads i comment on
It is in the tread, you asked do you think it is value for money. I answered that it is compared to other expenses I have seen submitted and gave an example.
The trip is covering 4 countries and there was only mention of 25K from 1 poster, I personally think it would cost more than that to get from UK - Falklands - Paraguay - Brazil - New York and back to UK.
Still worth it though.
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wow cant beleive you commented and never mentioned the snp lol |
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By *otMe66Man 43 weeks ago
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
When will you guys realise that the camper van etc. was bought with SNP funds donated by SNP supporters..... Not taxpayers money.... Yet the people who complain about it convenient turn a blind eye to the millions or maybe billions of taxpayers pounds diverted to people like Michelle Mone etc.
interesting that SNP can spend the money donated on whatever they want, do they also have the £41 billion from the government to play with too?
I dishy say they can spend it on whatever they want... Just said it is their money that you are getting your knickers on a twist about. You were comparing it to government money that was spent on a trip. £41 billion from the government? Do you mean the Scottish taxpayers money that is given back to us?
I was simply pointing out that a trip by the foreign minister that takes in the Falklands on the way to Paraguay and Brazil is a very good use of the money, and comparing it to the expenses of 11K for watching football on an ipad in Morocco that "was signed off" by the SNP leader, seems excellent value for money.
has the £11k you are so fixated on been paid back ,yes or no ?
Value for money is what you asked you are moving the goalposts, do you think it was value for money to go through expenses? the value for money was to do with the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands,you were the one who brought up the £11k are you that obbsessed with the snp that you bring them up in most threads i comment on
It is in the tread, you asked do you think it is value for money. I answered that it is compared to other expenses I have seen submitted and gave an example.
The trip is covering 4 countries and there was only mention of 25K from 1 poster, I personally think it would cost more than that to get from UK - Falklands - Paraguay - Brazil - New York and back to UK.
Still worth it though.
wow cant beleive you commented and never mentioned the snp lol "
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"Flights and security, £25k jolly paid by tax payer.
Are you saying that or Foreign Minister shouldn't be allowed to go abroad?
Do you think thats value for money ?
Compared to watching the football online while on holiday, it’s a steal. and whats that to do this post,il ask again do you think its value for money
£11K roaming charges for watching football on snp ipad in Morocco.
£110K camper van sitting on Sturgeons mother in-law's drive.
That trip was easily value for money.
When will you guys realise that the camper van etc. was bought with SNP funds donated by SNP supporters..... Not taxpayers money.... Yet the people who complain about it convenient turn a blind eye to the millions or maybe billions of taxpayers pounds diverted to people like Michelle Mone etc.
interesting that SNP can spend the money donated on whatever they want, do they also have the £41 billion from the government to play with too?
I dishy say they can spend it on whatever they want... Just said it is their money that you are getting your knickers on a twist about. You were comparing it to government money that was spent on a trip. £41 billion from the government? Do you mean the Scottish taxpayers money that is given back to us?
I was simply pointing out that a trip by the foreign minister that takes in the Falklands on the way to Paraguay and Brazil is a very good use of the money, and comparing it to the expenses of 11K for watching football on an ipad in Morocco that "was signed off" by the SNP leader, seems excellent value for money.
has the £11k you are so fixated on been paid back ,yes or no ?
Value for money is what you asked you are moving the goalposts, do you think it was value for money to go through expenses? the value for money was to do with the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands,you were the one who brought up the £11k are you that obbsessed with the snp that you bring them up in most threads i comment on
It is in the tread, you asked do you think it is value for money. I answered that it is compared to other expenses I have seen submitted and gave an example.
The trip is covering 4 countries and there was only mention of 25K from 1 poster, I personally think it would cost more than that to get from UK - Falklands - Paraguay - Brazil - New York and back to UK.
Still worth it though.
wow cant beleive you commented and never mentioned the snp lol
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"the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands...
Ah! Now you have claimed that the trip cost £25k. Do you have anything to back that up?"
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"the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands..."
"Ah! Now you have claimed that the trip cost £25k. Do you have anything to back that up?"
"If you go through the comments you will find it wasnt me how said it did "
I have been through the comments, and I quoted you above. Someone asked you about value for money, and you said "the value for money was to do with the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands".
So you've clearly accepted the £25k value, and you're repeating it when talking to others.
So, do you have any evidence for that cost, or have you just accepted someone else's word for it because it fits with your pre-judgement of certain people? |
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"the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands...
Ah! Now you have claimed that the trip cost £25k. Do you have anything to back that up?
If you go through the comments you will find it wasnt me how said it did
I have been through the comments, and I quoted you above. Someone asked you about value for money, and you said "the value for money was to do with the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands".
So you've clearly accepted the £25k value, and you're repeating it when talking to others.
So, do you have any evidence for that cost, or have you just accepted someone else's word for it because it fits with your pre-judgement of certain people?"
nope ive acceppted the posters word |
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"the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands...
Ah! Now you have claimed that the trip cost £25k. Do you have anything to back that up?
If you go through the comments you will find it wasnt me how said it did
I have been through the comments, and I quoted you above. Someone asked you about value for money, and you said "the value for money was to do with the£25k for camerons visit to the falklands".
So you've clearly accepted the £25k value, and you're repeating it when talking to others.
So, do you have any evidence for that cost, or have you just accepted someone else's word for it because it fits with your pre-judgement of certain people?nope ive acceppted the posters word "
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Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place. |
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"Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place."
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"Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place.that was the best moment of the world cup "
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Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict."
"Why did he say it was the hand of God if it's his mate's hand ?"
And how did he manage to get the ball in a position where he could do that, and be sure that the ref wasn't looking? |
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"Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place.that was the best moment of the world cup
I can see why you would think that after watching Scotland come bottom of their group... "
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Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Why did he say it was the hand of God if it's his mate's hand ?
And how did he manage to get the ball in a position where he could do that, and be sure that the ref wasn't looking?"
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"Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place.that was the best moment of the world cup
I can see why you would think that after watching Scotland come bottom of their group...
I dont watch scotland lol "
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"Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place.that was the best moment of the world cup
I can see why you would think that after watching Scotland come bottom of their group...
I dont watch scotland lol
Understandable "
though i dont think they go into tournaments saying they are going to win it,and its coming home,wonder who that is lol |
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A minister that backed Mone's entry into the Lords has got to be dodgy.ln Castries St Lucia's main shopping centre there is a fancy brass plaque polished everyday commemorating it's opening by air miles Andy, his trips all over the place as trade Ambassador gave him ample time and chance to sample the delights of the area, golf included, l'm sure Cameron was better behaved in the Falklands |
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"Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place.that was the best moment of the world cup
I can see why you would think that after watching Scotland come bottom of their group...
I dont watch scotland lol
Understandable though i dont think they go into tournaments saying they are going to win it,and its coming home,wonder who that is lol "
I would say that would be a nation of confident people, who like to get behind their national team and celebrate the tournaments they're in.
It would also be a nation that had previously won too, it would be silly to sing about it coming home if it had never been there
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"Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place.that was the best moment of the world cup
I can see why you would think that after watching Scotland come bottom of their group...
I dont watch scotland lol
Understandable though i dont think they go into tournaments saying they are going to win it,and its coming home,wonder who that is lol
I would say that would be a nation of confident people, who like to get behind their national team and celebrate the tournaments they're in.
It would also be a nation that had previously won too, it would be silly to sing about it coming home if it had never been there
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so because they won something 58yrs ago they are confident of winning again lol,its fun seeing that confident nation being sent home with their tail between their legs |
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"Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place.that was the best moment of the world cup
I can see why you would think that after watching Scotland come bottom of their group...
I dont watch scotland lol
Understandable though i dont think they go into tournaments saying they are going to win it,and its coming home,wonder who that is lol
I would say that would be a nation of confident people, who like to get behind their national team and celebrate the tournaments they're in.
It would also be a nation that had previously won too, it would be silly to sing about it coming home if it had never been there
so because they won something 58yrs ago they are confident of winning again lol,its fun seeing that confident nation being sent home with their tail between their legs "
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Epstein period 2002 to 2005, least Cameron wasnt involved in that crap, andy in st lucia 2004, couldn't make this stuff up, Cameron did do the referendum ,which is another theme entirely. Sorry not interested in football ,lots of sweaty men in dodgy outfits chasing a bag of wind on a field with nets on it ( l used to love playing it ,not watching it). |
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"Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place.that was the best moment of the world cup
I can see why you would think that after watching Scotland come bottom of their group...
I dont watch scotland lol
Understandable though i dont think they go into tournaments saying they are going to win it,and its coming home,wonder who that is lol
I would say that would be a nation of confident people, who like to get behind their national team and celebrate the tournaments they're in.
It would also be a nation that had previously won too, it would be silly to sing about it coming home if it had never been there
so because they won something 58yrs ago they are confident of winning again lol,its fun seeing that confident nation being sent home with their tail between their legs
I love how you would rather watch England than Scotland, it must hurt "
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"Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place.that was the best moment of the world cup
I can see why you would think that after watching Scotland come bottom of their group...
I dont watch scotland lol
Understandable though i dont think they go into tournaments saying they are going to win it,and its coming home,wonder who that is lol
I would say that would be a nation of confident people, who like to get behind their national team and celebrate the tournaments they're in.
It would also be a nation that had previously won too, it would be silly to sing about it coming home if it had never been there
so because they won something 58yrs ago they are confident of winning again lol,its fun seeing that confident nation being sent home with their tail between their legs
I love how you would rather watch England than Scotland, it must hurt
Who said i watch them?"
You and I added it here for clarity: "its fun seeing that confident nation being sent home with their tail between their legs" 
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"Bit of trivia regarding the Falklands.
Maradona's hand of god goal at the world cup, was due to us killing his mate during the Falklands conflict.
Just on that fact alone, we should keep the place.that was the best moment of the world cup
I can see why you would think that after watching Scotland come bottom of their group...
I dont watch scotland lol
Understandable though i dont think they go into tournaments saying they are going to win it,and its coming home,wonder who that is lol
I would say that would be a nation of confident people, who like to get behind their national team and celebrate the tournaments they're in.
It would also be a nation that had previously won too, it would be silly to sing about it coming home if it had never been there
so because they won something 58yrs ago they are confident of winning again lol,its fun seeing that confident nation being sent home with their tail between their legs
I love how you would rather watch England than Scotland, it must hurt
Who said i watch them?
You and I added it here for clarity: "its fun seeing that confident nation being sent home with their tail between their legs"
Who is your favourite player "
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