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How the hell can the Home Secretary makes such "jokes" regarding his wife? I've been a victim of such things and been out for the count for a long time. Might pop along the A120 to Braintree to explain that no laughing matter.
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Cleverly told female guests at the reception that “a little bit of Rohyp _ _ _ in her drink every night” was “not really illegal if it’s only a little bit”, the Sunday Mirror reported.
He also laughed that the secret to a long marriage was ensuring your spouse was “someone who is always mildly sedated so she can never realise there are better men out there”. |
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Evidently you missed this mornings thread... some people on there seem to think r*pe jokes are funny and acceptable as long as you say "it's a joke! ..... r*pe never have been and never will be funny... |
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"Evidently you missed this mornings thread... some people on there seem to think r*pe jokes are funny and acceptable as long as you say "it's a joke! ..... r*pe never have been and never will be funny..."
Never. And this mornings thread was an eye opener for sure
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"Evidently you missed this mornings thread... some people on there seem to think r*pe jokes are funny and acceptable as long as you say "it's a joke! ..... r*pe never have been and never will be funny...
Never. And this mornings thread was an eye opener for sure
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Certainly opened my eyes to a few people  |
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"Evidently you missed this mornings thread... some people on there seem to think r*pe jokes are funny and acceptable as long as you say "it's a joke! ..... r*pe never have been and never will be funny..."
Ah sorry. I've been busy and hadn't seen. Oh yes the greatest get out ever "it's a joke" or "just banter". Fortunately I did not experience the r word but was out for a long time and at the time thought I was lucky to wake up and thinking absolutely anything could have happened. In the end i was "just" minus a Cartier watch and my wallet. I can't believe any sensible person would make such a joke never mind the Home Secretary. Well I guess the thread you mention enables some people to add to their block list. |
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"Evidently you missed this mornings thread... some people on there seem to think r*pe jokes are funny and acceptable as long as you say "it's a joke! ..... r*pe never have been and never will be funny...
Ah sorry. I've been busy and hadn't seen. Oh yes the greatest get out ever "it's a joke" or "just banter". Fortunately I did not experience the r word but was out for a long time and at the time thought I was lucky to wake up and thinking absolutely anything could have happened. In the end i was "just" minus a Cartier watch and my wallet. I can't believe any sensible person would make such a joke never mind the Home Secretary. Well I guess the thread you mention enables some people to add to their block list. "
It's in the politics section if you want a read... I'm glad you escaped unscathed x |
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"Evidently you missed this mornings thread... some people on there seem to think r*pe jokes are funny and acceptable as long as you say "it's a joke! ..... r*pe never have been and never will be funny...
Never. And this mornings thread was an eye opener for sure
Certainly opened my eyes to a few people "
Mine too lovely, it was a great filter though |
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"Evidently you missed this mornings thread... some people on there seem to think r*pe jokes are funny and acceptable as long as you say "it's a joke! ..... r*pe never have been and never will be funny...
Never. And this mornings thread was an eye opener for sure
Certainly opened my eyes to a few people
Mine too lovely, it was a great filter though "
Not sure my blood pressure is going to be able to take it. Might have to wait until it calms down a touch  |
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"Evidently you missed this mornings thread... some people on there seem to think r*pe jokes are funny and acceptable as long as you say "it's a joke! ..... r*pe never have been and never will be funny...
Never. And this mornings thread was an eye opener for sure
Certainly opened my eyes to a few people
Mine too lovely, it was a great filter though "
Every cloud and all that I suppose x |
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"These ‘jokes’ are so grim.
Especially scary considering his job and good responsibilities. He’s got to go "
Yep, very and tbf as if the jokes weren't abhorrent enough, the fact that it was coming from a man who is in a position of power and responsible for creating white papers on matters such as these which are meant to support the protection of people's rights was a bigger issue...what kind of message does it send to victims of r@pe and sexual assault?
The bloke needs to check himself and behave in accordance with his pay grade |
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"These ‘jokes’ are so grim.
Especially scary considering his job and good responsibilities. He’s got to go
Yep, very and tbf as if the jokes weren't abhorrent enough, the fact that it was coming from a man who is in a position of power and responsible for creating white papers on matters such as these which are meant to support the protection of people's rights was a bigger issue...what kind of message does it send to victims of r@pe and sexual assault?
The bloke needs to check himself and behave in accordance with his pay grade "
victims will undoubtedly be horrified my his comments. I just hope even those of us that aren’t victims can be compassionate enough to be horrified too. So hopefully he’s out of the job. It’s one thing for any person to make those comments but the fact it’s the home sec … |
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"Evidently you missed this mornings thread... some people on there seem to think r*pe jokes are funny and acceptable as long as you say "it's a joke! ..... r*pe never have been and never will be funny...
Ah sorry. I've been busy and hadn't seen. Oh yes the greatest get out ever "it's a joke" or "just banter". Fortunately I did not experience the r word but was out for a long time and at the time thought I was lucky to wake up and thinking absolutely anything could have happened. In the end i was "just" minus a Cartier watch and my wallet. I can't believe any sensible person would make such a joke never mind the Home Secretary. Well I guess the thread you mention enables some people to add to their block list.
It's in the politics section if you want a read... I'm glad you escaped unscathed x"
I'm a bit annoyed it reached the politics section because people then turned it into whataboutery rather than engaging with the actual question. The OP I drafted had no party political angle. It wasn't a politics piece in my mind, but there we are! |
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"If the tories had any integrity, he'd be sacked. The sad thing is he won't be unless a huge fuss is made about it and damages the whole party."
The Tory party can survive any damage. Nothing will happen to him. |
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Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm. |
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm."
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke... |
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm.
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke... "
Jokes are supposed to be funny or humorous, I just can't see the funny side of Mr cleverly comment, and people reflect the way they think, in one breath he wants the practice of spiking illegal the says it's ok in small dose. |
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm.
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke...
Jokes are supposed to be funny or humorous, I just can't see the funny side of Mr cleverly comment, and people reflect the way they think, in one breath he wants the practice of spiking illegal the says it's ok in small dose."
There are plenty of comedians filling theatres with a repertoire of 'edgy' material. Cleverly's joke was crass and a ill-judged but you can't have double standards. |
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm.
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke...
Jokes are supposed to be funny or humorous, I just can't see the funny side of Mr cleverly comment, and people reflect the way they think, in one breath he wants the practice of spiking illegal the says it's ok in small dose.
There are plenty of comedians filling theatres with a repertoire of 'edgy' material. Cleverly's joke was crass and a ill-judged but you can't have double standards."
How is it double standards? The audience is made up of people who want to be there, who already have an understanding of the comedians comedic repertoire so they pay to be there.
Time, place, context springs to mind. |
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm.
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke...
Jokes are supposed to be funny or humorous, I just can't see the funny side of Mr cleverly comment, and people reflect the way they think, in one breath he wants the practice of spiking illegal the says it's ok in small dose.
There are plenty of comedians filling theatres with a repertoire of 'edgy' material. Cleverly's joke was crass and a ill-judged but you can't have double standards.
How is it double standards? The audience is made up of people who want to be there, who already have an understanding of the comedians comedic repertoire so they pay to be there.
Time, place, context springs to mind. "
True, but I meant by the standards of what is socially acceptable. YT is packed with vids of Jimmy Carr, Frankie Boyle, Chubby Brown et al making crass gags. Then we are outraged when a politician says something similar. |
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm.
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke...
Jokes are supposed to be funny or humorous, I just can't see the funny side of Mr cleverly comment, and people reflect the way they think, in one breath he wants the practice of spiking illegal the says it's ok in small dose.
There are plenty of comedians filling theatres with a repertoire of 'edgy' material. Cleverly's joke was crass and a ill-judged but you can't have double standards.
How is it double standards? The audience is made up of people who want to be there, who already have an understanding of the comedians comedic repertoire so they pay to be there.
Time, place, context springs to mind.
True, but I meant by the standards of what is socially acceptable. YT is packed with vids of Jimmy Carr, Frankie Boyle, Chubby Brown et al making crass gags. Then we are outraged when a politician says something similar. "
I get what your saying but again, time place and context. Downing Street where he is representing the Government as part of his position in power is not an appropriate setting I don't think.
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm.
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke...
Jokes are supposed to be funny or humorous, I just can't see the funny side of Mr cleverly comment, and people reflect the way they think, in one breath he wants the practice of spiking illegal the says it's ok in small dose.
There are plenty of comedians filling theatres with a repertoire of 'edgy' material. Cleverly's joke was crass and a ill-judged but you can't have double standards.
How is it double standards? The audience is made up of people who want to be there, who already have an understanding of the comedians comedic repertoire so they pay to be there.
Time, place, context springs to mind.
True, but I meant by the standards of what is socially acceptable. YT is packed with vids of Jimmy Carr, Frankie Boyle, Chubby Brown et al making crass gags. Then we are outraged when a politician says something similar. "
I'd be outraged whoever said it .... |
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm.
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke...
Jokes are supposed to be funny or humorous, I just can't see the funny side of Mr cleverly comment, and people reflect the way they think, in one breath he wants the practice of spiking illegal the says it's ok in small dose.
There are plenty of comedians filling theatres with a repertoire of 'edgy' material. Cleverly's joke was crass and a ill-judged but you can't have double standards.
How is it double standards? The audience is made up of people who want to be there, who already have an understanding of the comedians comedic repertoire so they pay to be there.
Time, place, context springs to mind.
True, but I meant by the standards of what is socially acceptable. YT is packed with vids of Jimmy Carr, Frankie Boyle, Chubby Brown et al making crass gags. Then we are outraged when a politician says something similar.
I get what your saying but again, time place and context. Downing Street where he is representing the Government as part of his position in power is not an appropriate setting I don't think.
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"Good to see the faux outrage mob are out in force on Christmas Day.
We must enforce “being kind”, by public execution if necessary."
Encouraging people to be kind is probably less of a threat to society than making light of r@pe. |
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"Good to see the faux outrage mob are out in force on Christmas Day.
We must enforce “being kind”, by public execution if necessary.
Encouraging people to be kind is probably less of a threat to society than making light of r@pe."
I’m sure you have a very long list of matters that shouldn’t be discussed or joked about. |
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"Good to see the faux outrage mob are out in force on Christmas Day.
We must enforce “being kind”, by public execution if necessary.
Encouraging people to be kind is probably less of a threat to society than making light of r@pe.
I’m sure you have a very long list of matters that shouldn’t be discussed or joked about."
Nope. Do you? |
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"How very dare the Foreign Secretary have a sense of humour..
Ronald Reagan always told jolrs and they were very funny ..
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It's not whether or not someone is allowed a sense of humour, it's about the appropriateness of the joke... r*pe jokes are not funny and highly inappropriate whether it's "comedian " or a politician making the " joke"... bit then again people who have never been r*aped are the ones who say " it's just a joke" ...  ...not fucking funny and its insulting to victims |
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"Nothing is off limits in comedy...
You have the right to be offended but that does not give you any rights...
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Oh so p*aedophillia is OK too then ?? That you'd even say this speaks volumes about you.... simple decency seems to be missing in a lot of people these days... |
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Not this again
We better just ban jokes full stop, someone, somewhere will find offence.
The funniest part of this is everyone losing there shit over r*pe, the guy never even mentioned anything to do with r*pe. He mentioned Rohypn*l. Rohypn*l is a benzodiazepine used to treat severe insomnia and assist with anesthesia. A sedative, because some people use it for ill gains automatically means his joke equates to r*pe.
Get a fucking grip. |
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"Not this again
We better just ban jokes full stop, someone, somewhere will find offence.
The funniest part of this is everyone losing there shit over r*pe, the guy never even mentioned anything to do with r*pe. He mentioned Rohypn*l. Rohypn*l is a benzodiazepine used to treat severe insomnia and assist with anesthesia. A sedative, because some people use it for ill gains automatically means his joke equates to r*pe.
Get a fucking grip."
Rohypn*l is also commonly used as a date r*ape drug why do you think you the nhs has blacklisted it...if you don't like a thread walk on by and don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.... |
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"Not this again
We better just ban jokes full stop, someone, somewhere will find offence.
The funniest part of this is everyone losing there shit over r*pe, the guy never even mentioned anything to do with r*pe. He mentioned Rohypn*l. Rohypn*l is a benzodiazepine used to treat severe insomnia and assist with anesthesia. A sedative, because some people use it for ill gains automatically means his joke equates to r*pe.
Get a fucking grip."
Time and a place, and Got to be aware of status and position.
I love an inappropriate joke myself, but I also know I'm not the home secretary talked with looking after the welfare and safety of the population.
2 apologies in a month from him.
Shoogly peg now, Mr. Cleverly.
Govt. Won't sack him, although they should. |
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"Not this again
We better just ban jokes full stop, someone, somewhere will find offence.
The funniest part of this is everyone losing there shit over r*pe, the guy never even mentioned anything to do with r*pe. He mentioned Rohypn*l. Rohypn*l is a benzodiazepine used to treat severe insomnia and assist with anesthesia. A sedative, because some people use it for ill gains automatically means his joke equates to r*pe.
Get a fucking grip.
Rohypn*l is also commonly used as a date r*ape drug why do you think you the nhs has blacklisted it...if you don't like a thread walk on by and don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.... "
Did you miss the part where I said *some people use it for ill gains*?
Are you still gonna keep accusing him of joking about r*pe? Knowing full well its false.
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"Not this again
We better just ban jokes full stop, someone, somewhere will find offence.
The funniest part of this is everyone losing there shit over r*pe, the guy never even mentioned anything to do with r*pe. He mentioned Rohypn*l. Rohypn*l is a benzodiazepine used to treat severe insomnia and assist with anesthesia. A sedative, because some people use it for ill gains automatically means his joke equates to r*pe.
Get a fucking grip.
Time and a place, and Got to be aware of status and position.
I love an inappropriate joke myself, but I also know I'm not the home secretary talked with looking after the welfare and safety of the population.
2 apologies in a month from him.
Shoogly peg now, Mr. Cleverly.
Govt. Won't sack him, although they should."
Are you saying because of his position there is never an acceptable time or place? |
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"Not this again
We better just ban jokes full stop, someone, somewhere will find offence.
The funniest part of this is everyone losing there shit over r*pe, the guy never even mentioned anything to do with r*pe. He mentioned Rohypn*l. Rohypn*l is a benzodiazepine used to treat severe insomnia and assist with anesthesia. A sedative, because some people use it for ill gains automatically means his joke equates to r*pe.
Get a fucking grip.
Time and a place, and Got to be aware of status and position.
I love an inappropriate joke myself, but I also know I'm not the home secretary talked with looking after the welfare and safety of the population.
2 apologies in a month from him.
Shoogly peg now, Mr. Cleverly.
Govt. Won't sack him, although they should.
Are you saying because of his position there is never an acceptable time or place?"
Damn right ! |
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"Not this again
We better just ban jokes full stop, someone, somewhere will find offence.
The funniest part of this is everyone losing there shit over r*pe, the guy never even mentioned anything to do with r*pe. He mentioned Rohypn*l. Rohypn*l is a benzodiazepine used to treat severe insomnia and assist with anesthesia. A sedative, because some people use it for ill gains automatically means his joke equates to r*pe.
Get a fucking grip.
Time and a place, and Got to be aware of status and position.
I love an inappropriate joke myself, but I also know I'm not the home secretary talked with looking after the welfare and safety of the population.
2 apologies in a month from him.
Shoogly peg now, Mr. Cleverly.
Govt. Won't sack him, although they should.
Are you saying because of his position there is never an acceptable time or place?
Damn right !"
You realise that's an authoritarian outlook? Something which you probably despise. |
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"Not this again
We better just ban jokes full stop, someone, somewhere will find offence.
The funniest part of this is everyone losing there shit over r*pe, the guy never even mentioned anything to do with r*pe. He mentioned Rohypn*l. Rohypn*l is a benzodiazepine used to treat severe insomnia and assist with anesthesia. A sedative, because some people use it for ill gains automatically means his joke equates to r*pe.
Get a fucking grip.
Time and a place, and Got to be aware of status and position.
I love an inappropriate joke myself, but I also know I'm not the home secretary talked with looking after the welfare and safety of the population.
2 apologies in a month from him.
Shoogly peg now, Mr. Cleverly.
Govt. Won't sack him, although they should.
Are you saying because of his position there is never an acceptable time or place?
Damn right !
You realise that's an authoritarian outlook? Something which you probably despise. "
No . it's called Common decency and if enforcing decency is authoritarian then I'm all for it ... |
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"Not this again
We better just ban jokes full stop, someone, somewhere will find offence.
The funniest part of this is everyone losing there shit over r*pe, the guy never even mentioned anything to do with r*pe. He mentioned Rohypn*l. Rohypn*l is a benzodiazepine used to treat severe insomnia and assist with anesthesia. A sedative, because some people use it for ill gains automatically means his joke equates to r*pe.
Get a fucking grip.
Time and a place, and Got to be aware of status and position.
I love an inappropriate joke myself, but I also know I'm not the home secretary talked with looking after the welfare and safety of the population.
2 apologies in a month from him.
Shoogly peg now, Mr. Cleverly.
Govt. Won't sack him, although they should.
Are you saying because of his position there is never an acceptable time or place?
Damn right !
You realise that's an authoritarian outlook? Something which you probably despise.
No . it's called Common decency and if enforcing decency is authoritarian then I'm all for it ..."
Fuck me, someone who is easily outraged actively encourages authoritarianism. I've seen it all now  |
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Are you saying because of his position there is never an acceptable time or place?"
I'm saying he's got to be aware of his status and the impact of his words. Shouldn't be anything new, the guys a politician... |
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Are you saying because of his position there is never an acceptable time or place?
I'm saying he's got to be aware of his status and the impact of his words. Shouldn't be anything new, the guys a politician..."
It's exactly the same situation as the RBS woman getting forced to resign after her Farage bank account comments.
At least she took accountability |
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm.
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke... "
Yes but he is the fucking Home Secretary not a stand up comedian. We should expect our leaders to show…..I don’t know…..maybe some leadership?
No we don’t actually think he does but it shows very poor judgment - downplaying the seriousness of the issue and showing no empathy with those that have suffered, me included. If he wants to be a comedian quit politics, fuck off. and go for it. If he wants to hold one of the great offices of State with responsibility for law and order then show leadership and behave in a dignified and responsible manner. |
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm.
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke...
Yes but he is the fucking Home Secretary not a stand up comedian. We should expect our leaders to show…..I don’t know…..maybe some leadership?
No we don’t actually think he does but it shows very poor judgment - downplaying the seriousness of the issue and showing no empathy with those that have suffered, me included. If he wants to be a comedian quit politics, fuck off. and go for it. If he wants to hold one of the great offices of State with responsibility for law and order then show leadership and behave in a dignified and responsible manner. "
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Also interesting the idea that ok to make such comments in private. If any of my “friends” made such comments in private they can fuck off too and would most probably be ex-friends. Don’t want to be around people who find such things funny. |
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"Also interesting the idea that ok to make such comments in private. If any of my “friends” made such comments in private they can fuck off too and would most probably be ex-friends. Don’t want to be around people who find such things funny. "
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I guess there are lots of nuances to it.
As a joke itself, I don't find anything wrong with it. If you can't handle dark humour, you obviously won't like it. I am personally fine with anything being a topic of a joke, as long as its just a joke. Ricky Gervais and Jimmy Carr have both spoken a lot about how making a joke about a bad thing doesn't have to be a bad thing.
What complicates this matter is the fact that he is a politician and it was said in a party in No.10. I don't mind the fact that he is a politician as they are humans at the end of the day and they should be able to make jokes others can. My problem is the environment where he made the joke.
These kind of jokes will usually result in a meeting with HR in any professional environment and for the right reason. So if the party was with colleagues and he was there to play a professional role, the backlash is totally warranted. |
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"Remind me, how many snowflakes does it take to count as a White Christmas?
I'd hardly call being a victim of r*pe not finding r*pe jokes funny being a snowflake ..... "
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm.
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke...
Yes but he is the fucking Home Secretary not a stand up comedian. We should expect our leaders to show…..I don’t know…..maybe some leadership?
No we don’t actually think he does but it shows very poor judgment - downplaying the seriousness of the issue and showing no empathy with those that have suffered, me included. If he wants to be a comedian quit politics, fuck off. and go for it. If he wants to hold one of the great offices of State with responsibility for law and order then show leadership and behave in a dignified and responsible manner. "
pmsl its a politician your talking about and as for great office do me a favour its goverment your talking about a necessary evil thats about it, let me guess your the sort of person who thinks politicians have the publics best intrests at heart, got news for you they never have and never will |
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"Remind me, how many snowflakes does it take to count as a White Christmas?"
Dead right, bleedin' snowflakes not happy about the Home Secretary making jokes about r@pe.
Meanwhile sensible people, non-snowflakes, are currently getting outraged by foreigners, science, Megan Markle, kindness etc. |
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"Remind me, how many snowflakes does it take to count as a White Christmas?
Dead right, bleedin' snowflakes not happy about the Home Secretary making jokes about r@pe.
Meanwhile sensible people, non-snowflakes, are currently getting outraged by foreigners, science, Megan Markle, kindness etc. "
I think we’d find that the person who mentions the word “foreigner” most in this forum is you.
Why are you so obsessed with foreigners?
And I can’t say I have ever seen any posts about Meghan Markle. |
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"Remind me, how many snowflakes does it take to count as a White Christmas?
Dead right, bleedin' snowflakes not happy about the Home Secretary making jokes about r@pe.
Meanwhile sensible people, non-snowflakes, are currently getting outraged by foreigners, science, Megan Markle, kindness etc.
I think we’d find that the person who mentions the word “foreigner” most in this forum is you.
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Nope
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Why are you so obsessed with foreigners?
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I'm not.
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And I can’t say I have ever seen any posts about Meghan Markle."
There's a whole world of sensible non-snowflakes outside of the fab forums. They quite rightly get outraged by all of the above, plus more. |
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"Not this again
We better just ban jokes full stop, someone, somewhere will find offence.
The funniest part of this is everyone losing there shit over r*pe, the guy never even mentioned anything to do with r*pe. He mentioned Rohypn*l. Rohypn*l is a benzodiazepine used to treat severe insomnia and assist with anesthesia. A sedative, because some people use it for ill gains automatically means his joke equates to r*pe.
Get a fucking grip.
Time and a place, and Got to be aware of status and position.
I love an inappropriate joke myself, but I also know I'm not the home secretary talked with looking after the welfare and safety of the population.
2 apologies in a month from him.
Shoogly peg now, Mr. Cleverly.
Govt. Won't sack him, although they should.
Are you saying because of his position there is never an acceptable time or place?
Damn right !
You realise that's an authoritarian outlook? Something which you probably despise.
No . it's called Common decency and if enforcing decency is authoritarian then I'm all for it ...
Fuck me, someone who is easily outraged actively encourages authoritarianism. I've seen it all now "
You refer to authoritarianism and yet presumably prefer to live in a decent society, where we have enforced standards, including prevention of harm to others. Some respect and rules help to sustain decency and well-being, even if that might be construed as authoritarianism. In his position, he should be beyond reproach, especially upon matters of legality and having a watertight moral compass. I think his boss had also insisted on having a government that was going to be in that style. Charlatans and stomach churningly sickening are what immediately come to mind, when such abhorrent behaviour isn't met with immediate sacking. |
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"Also interesting the idea that ok to make such comments in private. If any of my “friends” made such comments in private they can fuck off too and would most probably be ex-friends. Don’t want to be around people who find such things funny. "
Life must be lonely in Dunmow... |
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"I wonder what Mrs cleverly thinks about her husband's comment, surely there needs to be a statement for her being has she was the butt of the '' joke. "
The butt of the joke was not Mrs Cleverly.. it was Mr Cleverly with self defecating humour.. |
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"I wonder what Mrs cleverly thinks about her husband's comment, surely there needs to be a statement for her being has she was the butt of the '' joke. "
If you read the joke fully, he basically said that spiking her drink regularly was the only way to keep her from realising that there are better men out there. I don't think there is anything bad from the wife's perspective. It was self deprecatory humour. The only problem is the topic of joke wasn't probably the right thing in a professional environment. |
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I see plenty of people still talking about r*pe. The joke had absolutely nothing to do with r*pe, hence plenty of people talking about faux outrage.
Some of you really need to take stock and chill the fuck out. |
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"I guess there are lots of nuances to it.
As a joke itself, I don't find anything wrong with it. If you can't handle dark humour, you obviously won't like it. I am personally fine with anything being a topic of a joke, as long as its just a joke. Ricky Gervais and Jimmy Carr have both spoken a lot about how making a joke about a bad thing doesn't have to be a bad thing.
What complicates this matter is the fact that he is a politician and it was said in a party in No.10. I don't mind the fact that he is a politician as they are humans at the end of the day and they should be able to make jokes others can. My problem is the environment where he made the joke.
These kind of jokes will usually result in a meeting with HR in any professional environment and for the right reason. So if the party was with colleagues and he was there to play a professional role, the backlash is totally warranted."
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"Vile and awful, and if other people (but men especially) wish to be meaningful and useful allies in the fight against deep-rooted patriarchal misogyny, then it needs calling out. Embarrassed silence does not befit a transgression of such contempt and harm.
Like Tom said...it was a joke..
Wether the audience find it funny is irrelevant...
Does anyone actually think Mr Cleverly drugs his wife... NO
It was a joke...
Yes but he is the fucking Home Secretary not a stand up comedian. We should expect our leaders to show…..I don’t know…..maybe some leadership?
No we don’t actually think he does but it shows very poor judgment - downplaying the seriousness of the issue and showing no empathy with those that have suffered, me included. If he wants to be a comedian quit politics, fuck off. and go for it. If he wants to hold one of the great offices of State with responsibility for law and order then show leadership and behave in a dignified and responsible manner. "
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"I wonder what Mrs cleverly thinks about her husband's comment, surely there needs to be a statement for her being has she was the butt of the '' joke.
The butt of the joke was not Mrs Cleverly.. it was Mr Cleverly with self defecating humour.. "
So you think that makes it ok ? |
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"I wonder what Mrs cleverly thinks about her husband's comment, surely there needs to be a statement for her being has she was the butt of the '' joke.
The butt of the joke was not Mrs Cleverly.. it was Mr Cleverly with self defecating humour..
So you think that makes it ok ?"
Yes |
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"I wonder what Mrs cleverly thinks about her husband's comment, surely there needs to be a statement for her being has she was the butt of the '' joke.
The butt of the joke was not Mrs Cleverly.. it was Mr Cleverly with self defecating humour..
So you think that makes it ok ?
Yes "
Good for you letting ppl know what kind of a guy you are,good on you |
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"I wonder what Mrs cleverly thinks about her husband's comment, surely there needs to be a statement for her being has she was the butt of the '' joke.
The butt of the joke was not Mrs Cleverly.. it was Mr Cleverly with self defecating humour..
So you think that makes it ok ?
Yes
Good for you letting ppl know what kind of a guy you are,good on you"
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People like you fascinate me.
What has Tom admitted which is so awful?
I'm not going to spell out the TRUE words spoken by Mr. Cleverly but, any mention of particular 'drugs' or the forceful violation of his Lady wife were absolutely the product of some sick and twisted mind(s).
Just shows how stupid rumours and negative assumptions begin.
Some people really ought to study the basics of critical thinking, unless of course, the 'agenda' suits their purpose. |
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"More importy. What has Mr Cleverly admitted which is so awful? Nothing apart from having a sense of humour and those who attribute the R word to him are being a bit silly"
a sense of humour you expect from a comedian not a mp,as a gov minister he should be sacked if he thinks using a date r-pe drug is ok ,and your just as bad backing him |
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"More importy. What has Mr Cleverly admitted which is so awful? Nothing apart from having a sense of humour and those who attribute the R word to him are being a bit silly"
In defending him, you are tacitly supporting a man who:
1. Believes a joke about use of a date-R drug is ok
2. Has highly offended leading CEO's and members of charity organisations who support individuals who have experienced use of the drug upon them
3. Even the Shadow Minister for domestic violence and safeguarding stated, "“‘It was a joke’ is the most tired excuse in the book and no one is buying it. If the home secretary is serious about tackling spiking, and violence against women and girls, then that requires a full cultural change. The ‘banter’ needs to stop and it has to start at the top.”
I would like to think those reasons alone, let alone the thousands of other reasons from other women/men/individuals who have suffered abuse from the date-R drug would be enough to shine a light on the feeling towards his comments.
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His comments were unkind, not nice, insensitive and trivialised a drug used to harm others. There is no "good" in that. Absolutely none at all.. |
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By *otMe66Man 47 weeks ago
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"Good to see the faux outrage mob are out in force on Christmas Day.
We must enforce “being kind”, by public execution if necessary.
Encouraging people to be kind is probably less of a threat to society than making light of r@pe."
Who mentioned the R word? I'm struggling to find where he mentioned that, he must though because so many are outraged. |
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"Good to see the faux outrage mob are out in force on Christmas Day.
We must enforce “being kind”, by public execution if necessary.
Encouraging people to be kind is probably less of a threat to society than making light of r@pe.
Who mentioned the R word? I'm struggling to find where he mentioned that, he must though because so many are outraged."
I'm struggling to find someone who claimed he mentioned the R word. Someone must have claimed this because so many are outraged. |
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"Good to see the faux outrage mob are out in force on Christmas Day.
We must enforce “being kind”, by public execution if necessary.
Encouraging people to be kind is probably less of a threat to society than making light of r@pe.
Who mentioned the R word? I'm struggling to find where he mentioned that, he must though because so many are outraged.
I'm struggling to find someone who claimed he mentioned the R word. Someone must have claimed this because so many are outraged. "
Plenty are outraged because he is joking about r*pe, supposedly. |
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"Good to see the faux outrage mob are out in force on Christmas Day.
We must enforce “being kind”, by public execution if necessary.
Encouraging people to be kind is probably less of a threat to society than making light of r@pe.
Who mentioned the R word? I'm struggling to find where he mentioned that, he must though because so many are outraged.
I'm struggling to find someone who claimed he mentioned the R word. Someone must have claimed this because so many are outraged.
Plenty are outraged because he is joking about r*pe, supposedly. "
I dont he was joking about r,but he did mention a date r drug |
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"Good to see the faux outrage mob are out in force on Christmas Day.
We must enforce “being kind”, by public execution if necessary.
Encouraging people to be kind is probably less of a threat to society than making light of r@pe.
Who mentioned the R word? I'm struggling to find where he mentioned that, he must though because so many are outraged.
I'm struggling to find someone who claimed he mentioned the R word. Someone must have claimed this because so many are outraged.
Plenty are outraged because he is joking about r*pe, supposedly.
I dont he was joking about r,but he did mention a date r drug"
He wasn't but read the room, you'll see what people are outraged about. |
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I totally get why people are outraged, especially if they have been affected.
My take is the butt of the joke is meant to be himself. He's trying to say he's punching.
The way he has made himself the butt is of poor taste, especially given his role in government. Some jokes are more odd limit to some people.
But I dont see he's necessarily making light of it. Indeed he probably felt the humour came from the dark side of this, the shock value, which only works because it's an awful thing to do.
But I have a dark sense of humour. Maybe I'm trying to defend my ego. |
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"More importy. What has Mr Cleverly admitted which is so awful? Nothing apart from having a sense of humour and those who attribute the R word to him are being a bit silly
In defending him, you are tacitly supporting a man who:
1. Believes a joke about use of a date-R drug is ok
2. Has highly offended leading CEO's and members of charity organisations who support individuals who have experienced use of the drug upon them
3. Even the Shadow Minister for domestic violence and safeguarding stated, "“‘It was a joke’ is the most tired excuse in the book and no one is buying it. If the home secretary is serious about tackling spiking, and violence against women and girls, then that requires a full cultural change. The ‘banter’ needs to stop and it has to start at the top.”
I would like to think those reasons alone, let alone the thousands of other reasons from other women/men/individuals who have suffered abuse from the date-R drug would be enough to shine a light on the feeling towards his comments.
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His comments were unkind, not nice, insensitive and trivialised a drug used to harm others. There is no "good" in that. Absolutely none at all.."
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Considering that the government were apparently prioritising this spiking activity, for being viewed as the abhorrent tool that it is, his behaviour shows utter contempt for victims, the law and common decency.
The fact that he, nor Sunak, have got rid, emphasises that they are morally bankrupt and unfit to be there or in public office |
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I suppose it depends what standards we hold our leaders to.
I wouldn't have anyone on my team making 'jokes' like this, especially not in a leadership position.
I'd lose respect for someone if they said something like this. Once that goes so does he trust. No leader is effective without respect and trust.
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"It's about votes too and although one of two faux voters will vote for another party it will attract others who see the humanity in the politician. "
He got 67% in Braintree last time so barring a clusterfuck of beyond even Liz Truss proportions he will get another go. He could stand around Braintree town centre naked with an erection doing an old Jim Davidson stag night routine and probably increase his vote. Saying that I'd be willing to have a wager that it will go down next time despite showing his "humanity". If you think it will attract voters should be easy money for you.
What with Braintree and Priti Patel to the South in Witham that little corner is really fucked up. Next over in Uttelsford not much better with Kemi Badenoch. A very successful businessman friend of mine of was in a small group meeting with Priti Patel as they were trying to get a big donation. He said she is genuinely just thick as two planks and not possible to engage in any kind of reasoned debate that would be normal in most private companies at senior management level. |
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"It's about votes too and although one of two faux voters will vote for another party it will attract others who see the humanity in the politician. "
Faux voters, faux outrage...seems there's an inability to appreciate different perspectives. |
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"Not that many years ago Bob Monkhouse used to begin almost every joke with the words "My wife...".
Perhaps those were Cleverly's formative years?"
Bob Monkhouse : “People used to laugh at me when I said I wanted to be a comedian. Well they're not laughing now.”
(But then who does?) |
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"It's about votes too and although one of two faux voters will vote for another party it will attract others who see the humanity in the politician.
He got 67% in Braintree last time so barring a clusterfuck of beyond even Liz Truss proportions he will get another go. He could stand around Braintree town centre naked with an erection doing an old Jim Davidson stag night routine and probably increase his vote. Saying that I'd be willing to have a wager that it will go down next time despite showing his "humanity". If you think it will attract voters should be easy money for you.
What with Braintree and Priti Patel to the South in Witham that little corner is really fucked up. Next over in Uttelsford not much better with Kemi Badenoch. A very successful businessman friend of mine of was in a small group meeting with Priti Patel as they were trying to get a big donation. He said she is genuinely just thick as two planks and not possible to engage in any kind of reasoned debate that would be normal in most private companies at senior management level. "
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"It's about votes too and although one of two faux voters will vote for another party it will attract others who see the humanity in the politician.
He got 67% in Braintree last time so barring a clusterfuck of beyond even Liz Truss proportions he will get another go. He could stand around Braintree town centre naked with an erection doing an old Jim Davidson stag night routine and probably increase his vote. Saying that I'd be willing to have a wager that it will go down next time despite showing his "humanity". If you think it will attract voters should be easy money for you.
What with Braintree and Priti Patel to the South in Witham that little corner is really fucked up. Next over in Uttelsford not much better with Kemi Badenoch. A very successful businessman friend of mine of was in a small group meeting with Priti Patel as they were trying to get a big donation. He said she is genuinely just thick as two planks and not possible to engage in any kind of reasoned debate that would be normal in most private companies at senior management level. "
And every citizen over 18 will vote as they choose |
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"It's about votes too and although one of two faux voters will vote for another party it will attract others who see the humanity in the politician.
He got 67% in Braintree last time so barring a clusterfuck of beyond even Liz Truss proportions he will get another go. He could stand around Braintree town centre naked with an erection doing an old Jim Davidson stag night routine and probably increase his vote. Saying that I'd be willing to have a wager that it will go down next time despite showing his "humanity". If you think it will attract voters should be easy money for you.
What with Braintree and Priti Patel to the South in Witham that little corner is really fucked up. Next over in Uttelsford not much better with Kemi Badenoch. A very successful businessman friend of mine of was in a small group meeting with Priti Patel as they were trying to get a big donation. He said she is genuinely just thick as two planks and not possible to engage in any kind of reasoned debate that would be normal in most private companies at senior management level.
And every citizen over 18 will vote as they choose "
And not as you advise |
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"Not that many years ago Bob Monkhouse used to begin almost every joke with the words "My wife...".
Perhaps those were Cleverly's formative years?"
The years when Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris were popular celebrities. |
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"It's about votes too and although one of two faux voters will vote for another party it will attract others who see the humanity in the politician.
He got 67% in Braintree last time so barring a clusterfuck of beyond even Liz Truss proportions he will get another go. He could stand around Braintree town centre naked with an erection doing an old Jim Davidson stag night routine and probably increase his vote. Saying that I'd be willing to have a wager that it will go down next time despite showing his "humanity". If you think it will attract voters should be easy money for you.
What with Braintree and Priti Patel to the South in Witham that little corner is really fucked up. Next over in Uttelsford not much better with Kemi Badenoch. A very successful businessman friend of mine of was in a small group meeting with Priti Patel as they were trying to get a big donation. He said she is genuinely just thick as two planks and not possible to engage in any kind of reasoned debate that would be normal in most private companies at senior management level.
And every citizen over 18 will vote as they choose
And not as you advise"
You seem to be mistaking advice with opinion. Guess you are not that confident in yours. How high do you think the 67% will go will all these new voters attracted to his comedic humanity? |
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"It's about votes too and although one of two faux voters will vote for another party it will attract others who see the humanity in the politician.
He got 67% in Braintree last time so barring a clusterfuck of beyond even Liz Truss proportions he will get another go. He could stand around Braintree town centre naked with an erection doing an old Jim Davidson stag night routine and probably increase his vote. Saying that I'd be willing to have a wager that it will go down next time despite showing his "humanity". If you think it will attract voters should be easy money for you.
What with Braintree and Priti Patel to the South in Witham that little corner is really fucked up. Next over in Uttelsford not much better with Kemi Badenoch. A very successful businessman friend of mine of was in a small group meeting with Priti Patel as they were trying to get a big donation. He said she is genuinely just thick as two planks and not possible to engage in any kind of reasoned debate that would be normal in most private companies at senior management level.
And every citizen over 18 will vote as they choose
And not as you advise
You seem to be mistaking advice with opinion. Guess you are not that confident in yours. How high do you think the 67% will go will all these new voters attracted to his comedic humanity? "
To be fair ....not bothered in the slightest |
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"It's about votes too and although one of two faux voters will vote for another party it will attract others who see the humanity in the politician.
He got 67% in Braintree last time so barring a clusterfuck of beyond even Liz Truss proportions he will get another go. He could stand around Braintree town centre naked with an erection doing an old Jim Davidson stag night routine and probably increase his vote. Saying that I'd be willing to have a wager that it will go down next time despite showing his "humanity". If you think it will attract voters should be easy money for you.
What with Braintree and Priti Patel to the South in Witham that little corner is really fucked up. Next over in Uttelsford not much better with Kemi Badenoch. A very successful businessman friend of mine of was in a small group meeting with Priti Patel as they were trying to get a big donation. He said she is genuinely just thick as two planks and not possible to engage in any kind of reasoned debate that would be normal in most private companies at senior management level.
And every citizen over 18 will vote as they choose
And not as you advise
You seem to be mistaking advice with opinion. Guess you are not that confident in yours. How high do you think the 67% will go will all these new voters attracted to his comedic humanity?
To be fair ....not bothered in the slightest"
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"It's about votes too and although one of two faux voters will vote for another party it will attract others who see the humanity in the politician.
He got 67% in Braintree last time so barring a clusterfuck of beyond even Liz Truss proportions he will get another go. He could stand around Braintree town centre naked with an erection doing an old Jim Davidson stag night routine and probably increase his vote. Saying that I'd be willing to have a wager that it will go down next time despite showing his "humanity". If you think it will attract voters should be easy money for you.
What with Braintree and Priti Patel to the South in Witham that little corner is really fucked up. Next over in Uttelsford not much better with Kemi Badenoch. A very successful businessman friend of mine of was in a small group meeting with Priti Patel as they were trying to get a big donation. He said she is genuinely just thick as two planks and not possible to engage in any kind of reasoned debate that would be normal in most private companies at senior management level.
And every citizen over 18 will vote as they choose
And not as you advise
You seem to be mistaking advice with opinion. Guess you are not that confident in yours. How high do you think the 67% will go will all these new voters attracted to his comedic humanity?
To be fair ....not bothered in the slightest
lol you seem to post a lot on this topic for somebody who is not bothered "
Not bothered with voting and politics Tom meant. Sorry to disappont |
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"It's about votes too and although one of two faux voters will vote for another party it will attract others who see the humanity in the politician.
He got 67% in Braintree last time so barring a clusterfuck of beyond even Liz Truss proportions he will get another go. He could stand around Braintree town centre naked with an erection doing an old Jim Davidson stag night routine and probably increase his vote. Saying that I'd be willing to have a wager that it will go down next time despite showing his "humanity". If you think it will attract voters should be easy money for you.
What with Braintree and Priti Patel to the South in Witham that little corner is really fucked up. Next over in Uttelsford not much better with Kemi Badenoch. A very successful businessman friend of mine of was in a small group meeting with Priti Patel as they were trying to get a big donation. He said she is genuinely just thick as two planks and not possible to engage in any kind of reasoned debate that would be normal in most private companies at senior management level.
And every citizen over 18 will vote as they choose
And not as you advise
You seem to be mistaking advice with opinion. Guess you are not that confident in yours. How high do you think the 67% will go will all these new voters attracted to his comedic humanity?
To be fair ....not bothered in the slightest
lol you seem to post a lot on this topic for somebody who is not bothered
Not bothered with voting and politics Tom meant. Sorry to disappont"
lol that is a lot funnier than Cleverly's joke given how often you post on political topics (it's all over the news) and made a comment on this very thread about voting implications Tom really is a hoot.
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"It's about votes too and although one of two faux voters will vote for another party it will attract others who see the humanity in the politician.
He got 67% in Braintree last time so barring a clusterfuck of beyond even Liz Truss proportions he will get another go. He could stand around Braintree town centre naked with an erection doing an old Jim Davidson stag night routine and probably increase his vote. Saying that I'd be willing to have a wager that it will go down next time despite showing his "humanity". If you think it will attract voters should be easy money for you.
What with Braintree and Priti Patel to the South in Witham that little corner is really fucked up. Next over in Uttelsford not much better with Kemi Badenoch. A very successful businessman friend of mine of was in a small group meeting with Priti Patel as they were trying to get a big donation. He said she is genuinely just thick as two planks and not possible to engage in any kind of reasoned debate that would be normal in most private companies at senior management level.
And every citizen over 18 will vote as they choose
And not as you advise
You seem to be mistaking advice with opinion. Guess you are not that confident in yours. How high do you think the 67% will go will all these new voters attracted to his comedic humanity?
To be fair ....not bothered in the slightest
lol you seem to post a lot on this topic for somebody who is not bothered
Not bothered with voting and politics Tom meant. Sorry to disappont
lol that is a lot funnier than Cleverly's joke given how often you post on political topics (it's all over the news) and made a comment on this very thread about voting implications Tom really is a hoot.
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"I am a bit surprised Cleverly didn't deny saying it , After all he did say that he didn't call Stockton a shit hole when he clearly did
But to be balanced on this.. is Stockton a shit hole ?"
Never been ,, but ,,
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"I am a bit surprised Cleverly didn't deny saying it , After all he did say that he didn't call Stockton a shit hole when he clearly did
But to be balanced on this.. is Stockton a shit hole ?
Never been ,, but ,,
If it is say it is , don't say it is then say you never said it , when you did "
Never been there |
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"I wonder what Mrs cleverly thinks about her husband's comment, surely there needs to be a statement for her being has she was the butt of the '' joke.
The butt of the joke was not Mrs Cleverly.. it was Mr Cleverly with self defecating humour.. "
Sorry to go back a few days, but is no one going to pick up on Tom's Freudian slip?!
Like a bit of self defecating do you Tom?
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"I wonder what Mrs cleverly thinks about her husband's comment, surely there needs to be a statement for her being has she was the butt of the '' joke.
The butt of the joke was not Mrs Cleverly.. it was Mr Cleverly with self defecating humour..
Sorry to go back a few days, but is no one going to pick up on Tom's Freudian slip?!
Like a bit of self defecating do you Tom?
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By *ony 2016Man 47 weeks ago
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"I am a bit surprised Cleverly didn't deny saying it , After all he did say that he didn't call Stockton a shit hole when he clearly did
But to be balanced on this.. is Stockton a shit hole ?
Never been ,, but ,,
If it is say it is , don't say it is then say you never said it , when you did
Never been there "
I was referring to Cleverly telling a lie in Parliament, not to if you had been or not
Cleverly called Stockton a shit hole in Parliament, then said in Parliament that he hadn't |
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"Have most sensible people agreed that this was a joke. Right "
"Joke: a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline."
Presumably he thinks he said it to cause amusement. However it didn't have a funny punchline. |
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"Have most sensible people agreed that this was a joke. Right "
Have you decided to gatekeep other people's emotions and experiences by saying that those who don't see it as a joke are not "sensible" ? |
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"Have most sensible people agreed that this was a joke. Right
"Joke: a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline."
Presumably he thinks he said it to cause amusement. However it didn't have a funny punchline."
We clearly need a Ministry of Humour so the government can guide us on what is funny and what isn't. This will avoid the confusion evident in this thread. |
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By *otMe66Man 47 weeks ago
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"Maybe the Minister for Common Sense could help ?"
That would be a hiding to nothing position.
Common Sense says it was an ill timed and poorly thought out joke.
Common sense says don't say it but common sense says it's a joke...
Damn this common sense |
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"Have most sensible people agreed that this was a joke. Right
"Joke: a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline."
Presumably he thinks he said it to cause amusement. However it didn't have a funny punchline.
We clearly need a Ministry of Humour so the government can guide us on what is funny and what isn't. This will avoid the confusion evident in this thread."
Ministry of funny walks. |
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On a side note they are saying that Mr Cleverly is taking credit that the bogus asylum seekers did not cross on Christmas Day. Even illegal asylum seekers take a day off to enjoy Christmas day with their families. It was a bit strange for the minister to take any credit for this |
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By *ony 2016Man 46 weeks ago
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"I am a bit surprised Cleverly didn't deny saying it , After all he did say that he didn't call Stockton a shit hole when he clearly did
But to be balanced on this.. is Stockton a shit hole ?
Never been ,, but ,,
If it is say it is , don't say it is then say you never said it , when you did
Never been there
I was referring to Cleverly telling a lie in Parliament, not to if you had been or not
Cleverly called Stockton a shit hole in Parliament, then said in Parliament that he hadn't "
Cleverly also saying on Radio 4 that he didn't call Stockton a shit hole
So that is both in Parliament and on radio that Cleverly lies about when he called Stockton a shit hole at PMQs |
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