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"It already is a banana republic. Their system means that you can only get in as president if you have serious money. Not based on merit at all."  | |||
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"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?" The Republicans have other candidates, the electorate appear to be rejecting them. Regardless of what you think of Trump personally, this goes to further embolden him and his supporters. The Democrats have been doing this for a while now, it isn't working. When will the left learn that 'cancelling' isn't working anymore? | |||
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"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming." Which just goes to show the hypocrisy of so many of those living in the Bible Belt if they can support a person like Trump! | |||
"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming. Which just goes to show the hypocrisy of so many of those living in the Bible Belt if they can support a person like Trump! " If one leaves a group of people without support and then someone comes and speaks for them I think that they will continue to vote for a person who has changed their way of life. Biden should have kept up the support to avoid this but he didn't so here we are. | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet? The Republicans have other candidates, the electorate appear to be rejecting them. Regardless of what you think of Trump personally, this goes to further embolden him and his supporters. The Democrats have been doing this for a while now, it isn't working. When will the left learn that 'cancelling' isn't working anymore?" The bloke literally started an insurrection that lead to Members of Congress having to hide in emergency tunnels who would have been killed otherwise. It's not they have cancelled him, he went against the constitution and has now suffered the consequences. If that is genuinely your view then I do fear for your understanding of the situation. When will right wingers learn the law applies to them too? When the law is used against them. This is a f*ick around, and find out scenario playing out. Wash wahh why are the people holding me accountable for my actions that put the fate of the country and elected representatives in danger. | |||
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"More signs from the US of leftists driven mad by Trump Derangement Syndrome. The Colorado Supreme Court has decided that Donald Trump cannot appear on the ballot paper for Republican Primaries. No doubt a terrible decision that will be overturned by the US Supreme Court. But yet more signs of the dangerous shift by the Western left towards anti democratic authoritarianism. It also shows the panic that seems to be gripping the Democrats, as they come to terms with the fact that it’s looking increasingly possibly that Trump will beat the hapless Biden in 2024. If the electorate can’t be trusted, best not to give them the choice. " So, a democratically elected state decision is a terrible decision? And you think it's the left who are shifting towards authoritarianism? Unlike Trump, who appears to favour an autocratic flavour of government   | |||
"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming." Snake oil salesmen are believed by some . Someone may believe that they are forgotten and believe BS, perhaps thinking tax cuts benefitting the Uberwealthy really did trickle down to them . Unlike the major investments nationally from Biden, which boost the financial well-being. | |||
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"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming. Which just goes to show the hypocrisy of so many of those living in the Bible Belt if they can support a person like Trump! If one leaves a group of people without support and then someone comes and speaks for them I think that they will continue to vote for a person who has changed their way of life. Biden should have kept up the support to avoid this but he didn't so here we are." It is just astounding how hypocritical so many of these so called Christians are though! Also astounding these people seem to actually believe a person like Trump gives a rat’s arse about any of them. He loves one person only...himself (and maybe his daughter a little too much by some accounts!) | |||
"Trump appeals to patriots, which is a filthy word for the liberal progressives. And there you have it, pick your side. " That's a bit insulting towards "patriots" isn't it? | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?" this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet? The Republicans have other candidates, the electorate appear to be rejecting them. Regardless of what you think of Trump personally, this goes to further embolden him and his supporters. The Democrats have been doing this for a while now, it isn't working. When will the left learn that 'cancelling' isn't working anymore?" spot on | |||
"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming. Which just goes to show the hypocrisy of so many of those living in the Bible Belt if they can support a person like Trump! If one leaves a group of people without support and then someone comes and speaks for them I think that they will continue to vote for a person who has changed their way of life. Biden should have kept up the support to avoid this but he didn't so here we are. It is just astounding how hypocritical so many of these so called Christians are though! Also astounding these people seem to actually believe a person like Trump gives a rat’s arse about any of them. He loves one person only...himself (and maybe his daughter a little too much by some accounts!)" It is a game isn't it now politics as the popular one gets the power it used to be the politician who had credibility and a track record of leading. Now it is likes on Facebook twitter and platforms that reach the masses. Yes by all accounts concerning his daughter I have heard the same, think he said something concerning his daughter that a father shouldn't say but cannot think of what he said. | |||
"Trump appeals to patriots, which is a filthy word for the liberal progressives. And there you have it, pick your side. That's a bit insulting towards "patriots" isn't it?" You feel qualified to understand what would or wouldn’t be offensive to a patriot  | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things" Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas. | |||
"Trump appeals to patriots, which is a filthy word for the liberal progressives. And there you have it, pick your side. That's a bit insulting towards "patriots" isn't it? You feel qualified to understand what would or wouldn’t be offensive to a patriot "Presumably some things yes. How about you? | |||
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"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming. Which just goes to show the hypocrisy of so many of those living in the Bible Belt if they can support a person like Trump! If one leaves a group of people without support and then someone comes and speaks for them I think that they will continue to vote for a person who has changed their way of life. Biden should have kept up the support to avoid this but he didn't so here we are. It is just astounding how hypocritical so many of these so called Christians are though! Also astounding these people seem to actually believe a person like Trump gives a rat’s arse about any of them. He loves one person only...himself (and maybe his daughter a little too much by some accounts!) It is a game isn't it now politics as the popular one gets the power it used to be the politician who had credibility and a track record of leading. Now it is likes on Facebook twitter and platforms that reach the masses. Yes by all accounts concerning his daughter I have heard the same, think he said something concerning his daughter that a father shouldn't say but cannot think of what he said." He said he'd be dating her if she wasn't his daughter...among others. | |||
"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming. Which just goes to show the hypocrisy of so many of those living in the Bible Belt if they can support a person like Trump! If one leaves a group of people without support and then someone comes and speaks for them I think that they will continue to vote for a person who has changed their way of life. Biden should have kept up the support to avoid this but he didn't so here we are. It is just astounding how hypocritical so many of these so called Christians are though! Also astounding these people seem to actually believe a person like Trump gives a rat’s arse about any of them. He loves one person only...himself (and maybe his daughter a little too much by some accounts!) It is a game isn't it now politics as the popular one gets the power it used to be the politician who had credibility and a track record of leading. Now it is likes on Facebook twitter and platforms that reach the masses. Yes by all accounts concerning his daughter I have heard the same, think he said something concerning his daughter that a father shouldn't say but cannot think of what he said. He said he'd be dating her if she wasn't his daughter...among others." Lol and Julian assange used to smear crap on the walls of the embassy, | |||
"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming. Which just goes to show the hypocrisy of so many of those living in the Bible Belt if they can support a person like Trump! If one leaves a group of people without support and then someone comes and speaks for them I think that they will continue to vote for a person who has changed their way of life. Biden should have kept up the support to avoid this but he didn't so here we are. It is just astounding how hypocritical so many of these so called Christians are though! Also astounding these people seem to actually believe a person like Trump gives a rat’s arse about any of them. He loves one person only...himself (and maybe his daughter a little too much by some accounts!) It is a game isn't it now politics as the popular one gets the power it used to be the politician who had credibility and a track record of leading. Now it is likes on Facebook twitter and platforms that reach the masses. Yes by all accounts concerning his daughter I have heard the same, think he said something concerning his daughter that a father shouldn't say but cannot think of what he said. He said he'd be dating her if she wasn't his daughter...among others. Lol and Julian assange used to smear crap on the walls of the embassy," ...and that has what to do with what he said? | |||
"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming. Which just goes to show the hypocrisy of so many of those living in the Bible Belt if they can support a person like Trump! If one leaves a group of people without support and then someone comes and speaks for them I think that they will continue to vote for a person who has changed their way of life. Biden should have kept up the support to avoid this but he didn't so here we are. It is just astounding how hypocritical so many of these so called Christians are though! Also astounding these people seem to actually believe a person like Trump gives a rat’s arse about any of them. He loves one person only...himself (and maybe his daughter a little too much by some accounts!) It is a game isn't it now politics as the popular one gets the power it used to be the politician who had credibility and a track record of leading. Now it is likes on Facebook twitter and platforms that reach the masses. Yes by all accounts concerning his daughter I have heard the same, think he said something concerning his daughter that a father shouldn't say but cannot think of what he said. He said he'd be dating her if she wasn't his daughter...among others. Lol and Julian assange used to smear crap on the walls of the embassy, ...and that has what to do with what he said?" People will believe anything that suits their narrative.  | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas." you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet? The Republicans have other candidates, the electorate appear to be rejecting them. Regardless of what you think of Trump personally, this goes to further embolden him and his supporters. The Democrats have been doing this for a while now, it isn't working. When will the left learn that 'cancelling' isn't working anymore? The bloke literally started an insurrection that lead to Members of Congress having to hide in emergency tunnels who would have been killed otherwise. It's not they have cancelled him, he went against the constitution and has now suffered the consequences. If that is genuinely your view then I do fear for your understanding of the situation. When will right wingers learn the law applies to them too? When the law is used against them. This is a f*ick around, and find out scenario playing out. Wash wahh why are the people holding me accountable for my actions that put the fate of the country and elected representatives in danger. " Genuinely my view? Trump didn't 'start' an insurrection, that is the view of the courts. I do agree it's a FAFO situation, as the Democrats will find out soon enough. | |||
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"The UK and USA are in the same situation... choice of 2 parties with a fag paper between them, run by the banks, pharmaceutical and now tech It's just proxy parties ?? " Generally agree. But the UK has other options than the main two. Where as the US is stuck with just the Democrats and the Republicans. | |||
"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming. Which just goes to show the hypocrisy of so many of those living in the Bible Belt if they can support a person like Trump! If one leaves a group of people without support and then someone comes and speaks for them I think that they will continue to vote for a person who has changed their way of life. Biden should have kept up the support to avoid this but he didn't so here we are. It is just astounding how hypocritical so many of these so called Christians are though! Also astounding these people seem to actually believe a person like Trump gives a rat’s arse about any of them. He loves one person only...himself (and maybe his daughter a little too much by some accounts!) It is a game isn't it now politics as the popular one gets the power it used to be the politician who had credibility and a track record of leading. Now it is likes on Facebook twitter and platforms that reach the masses. Yes by all accounts concerning his daughter I have heard the same, think he said something concerning his daughter that a father shouldn't say but cannot think of what he said. He said he'd be dating her if she wasn't his daughter...among others. Lol and Julian assange used to smear crap on the walls of the embassy, ...and that has what to do with what he said? People will believe anything that suits their narrative. "...OK, I'll bite - narratives aside (not that I had one, I was simply replying to someone who said they couldn't remember what he said), which of the many, many news reports, or indeed the live daytime TV show "The View" in 2006 where he said it, do you doubt?? | |||
"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming. Which just goes to show the hypocrisy of so many of those living in the Bible Belt if they can support a person like Trump! If one leaves a group of people without support and then someone comes and speaks for them I think that they will continue to vote for a person who has changed their way of life. Biden should have kept up the support to avoid this but he didn't so here we are. It is just astounding how hypocritical so many of these so called Christians are though! Also astounding these people seem to actually believe a person like Trump gives a rat’s arse about any of them. He loves one person only...himself (and maybe his daughter a little too much by some accounts!) It is a game isn't it now politics as the popular one gets the power it used to be the politician who had credibility and a track record of leading. Now it is likes on Facebook twitter and platforms that reach the masses. Yes by all accounts concerning his daughter I have heard the same, think he said something concerning his daughter that a father shouldn't say but cannot think of what he said. He said he'd be dating her if she wasn't his daughter...among others." Super creepy There was also some rumour involving a bikini. | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him" Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low! | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low!" Low to you high to others | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low!" How about Hilary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party from 2016 to now? | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low! How about Hilary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party from 2016 to now? " Wait Clinton encouraged her followers to storm the Capitol? | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low! How about Hilary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party from 2016 to now? Wait Clinton encouraged her followers to storm the Capitol? " Did Trump? Weren’t the “insurrectionists” just let in by security guards and the police? Strange kind of violent revolution where the proponents are unarmed and just walk through open doors. | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low! How about Hilary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party from 2016 to now? Wait Clinton encouraged her followers to storm the Capitol? Did Trump? Weren’t the “insurrectionists” just let in by security guards and the police? Strange kind of violent revolution where the proponents are unarmed and just walk through open doors." But has that happened before? Thought you were saying Clinton’s followers did it? | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low! How about Hilary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party from 2016 to now? Wait Clinton encouraged her followers to storm the Capitol? Did Trump? Weren’t the “insurrectionists” just let in by security guards and the police? Strange kind of violent revolution where the proponents are unarmed and just walk through open doors. But has that happened before? Thought you were saying Clinton’s followers did it?" It’s an odd trend though. The Democrats really want to rerun the 2016 election but without Trump, just like the Remoaners wanted to rerun the 2016 referendum, but only with the option of staying in the EU. The Left are terrified of the electorate and have morphed into fascists. | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low! How about Hilary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party from 2016 to now? Wait Clinton encouraged her followers to storm the Capitol? Did Trump? Weren’t the “insurrectionists” just let in by security guards and the police? Strange kind of violent revolution where the proponents are unarmed and just walk through open doors. But has that happened before? Thought you were saying Clinton’s followers did it? It’s an odd trend though. The Democrats really want to rerun the 2016 election but without Trump, just like the Remoaners wanted to rerun the 2016 referendum, but only with the option of staying in the EU. The Left are terrified of the electorate and have morphed into fascists." | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low! How about Hilary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party from 2016 to now? Wait Clinton encouraged her followers to storm the Capitol? Did Trump? Weren’t the “insurrectionists” just let in by security guards and the police? Strange kind of violent revolution where the proponents are unarmed and just walk through open doors. But has that happened before? Thought you were saying Clinton’s followers did it? It’s an odd trend though. The Democrats really want to rerun the 2016 election but without Trump, just like the Remoaners wanted to rerun the 2016 referendum, but only with the option of staying in the EU. The Left are terrified of the electorate and have morphed into fascists." As I said yesterday. It's getting harder and harder to know if the posts are satirical or not. | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?" Very well said could not agree more. How could it happen. ? | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low! How about Hilary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party from 2016 to now? Wait Clinton encouraged her followers to storm the Capitol? Did Trump? Weren’t the “insurrectionists” just let in by security guards and the police? Strange kind of violent revolution where the proponents are unarmed and just walk through open doors. But has that happened before? Thought you were saying Clinton’s followers did it? It’s an odd trend though. The Democrats really want to rerun the 2016 election but without Trump, just like the Remoaners wanted to rerun the 2016 referendum, but only with the option of staying in the EU. The Left are terrified of the electorate and have morphed into fascists." Getting the feeling you are making stuff up! | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low! How about Hilary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party from 2016 to now? Wait Clinton encouraged her followers to storm the Capitol? Did Trump? Weren’t the “insurrectionists” just let in by security guards and the police? Strange kind of violent revolution where the proponents are unarmed and just walk through open doors. But has that happened before? Thought you were saying Clinton’s followers did it? It’s an odd trend thought. The Democrats really want to rerun the 2016 election but without Trump, just like the Remoaners wanted to rerun the 2016 referendum, but only with the option of staying in the EU. The Left are terrified of the electorate and have morphed into fascists. Getting the feeling you are making stuff up!" | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low! How about Hilary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party from 2016 to now? Wait Clinton encouraged her followers to storm the Capitol? Did Trump? Weren’t the “insurrectionists” just let in by security guards and the police? Strange kind of violent revolution where the proponents are unarmed and just walk through open doors. But has that happened before? Thought you were saying Clinton’s followers did it? It’s an odd trend though. The Democrats really want to rerun the 2016 election but without Trump, just like the Remoaners wanted to rerun the 2016 referendum, but only with the option of staying in the EU. The Left are terrified of the electorate and have morphed into fascists. Getting the feeling you are making stuff up!" Sure probably just spreading disinformation and need cancelling, right? | |||
"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet?this is americans we are talking about, for as long as i can remember its resembled a lunatic asylum, if you think trump is the first dodge pot to get into the white house you really should look back at past presidents, jfk shagged anything that moved and got into the white house with mafia help, ronnie reagan a film start with dementia, bill clinton womaniser and him and his wife with a trail of dead bodies behind them, trump need i say anything and now we have biden who lets face it is nothing more than the public face for those are actually running things Yep I hear you although I think Orange Man has taken things to a new low. England wanted to get rid of religious nut jobs in the 17th century. So they granted them licences to settle in the Americas.you only think orange man has taken it to a new low because u hate the bloke, myself i dont think he is any worse than the last 4 or 5 presidents, only difference with trump is he has no filter, the others know how to come across as likeable while fucking there people over, trump was just a bit more in ya face than those before him Erm how many previous presidents refused to accept the election result? How many encouraged their followers to storm the Capitol? Nah he really is a new low! How about Hilary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party from 2016 to now? Wait Clinton encouraged her followers to storm the Capitol? Did Trump? Weren’t the “insurrectionists” just let in by security guards and the police? Strange kind of violent revolution where the proponents are unarmed and just walk through open doors. But has that happened before? Thought you were saying Clinton’s followers did it? It’s an odd trend though. The Democrats really want to rerun the 2016 election but without Trump, just like the Remoaners wanted to rerun the 2016 referendum, but only with the option of staying in the EU. The Left are terrified of the electorate and have morphed into fascists. Getting the feeling you are making stuff up! Sure probably just spreading disinformation and need cancelling, right?" In a post defending the high king of cancel culture, you're worried you're going to be cancelled on fab? | |||
"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming. Which just goes to show the hypocrisy of so many of those living in the Bible Belt if they can support a person like Trump! If one leaves a group of people without support and then someone comes and speaks for them I think that they will continue to vote for a person who has changed their way of life. Biden should have kept up the support to avoid this but he didn't so here we are. It is just astounding how hypocritical so many of these so called Christians are though! Also astounding these people seem to actually believe a person like Trump gives a rat’s arse about any of them. He loves one person only...himself (and maybe his daughter a little too much by some accounts!) It is a game isn't it now politics as the popular one gets the power it used to be the politician who had credibility and a track record of leading. Now it is likes on Facebook twitter and platforms that reach the masses. Yes by all accounts concerning his daughter I have heard the same, think he said something concerning his daughter that a father shouldn't say but cannot think of what he said. He said he'd be dating her if she wasn't his daughter...among others." Did he now, dear me. | |||
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"Maybe, just maybe, the Republicans could pull themselves together and find a presidential candidate who isn’t on trial or committed misdemeanours or been caught on tape being a misogynistic cunt, or paying off porn stars to keep quiet or having a variety of shady business deals or dubious ties into Russia or or or etc etc etc! What have we come to when that absolute narcissistic orange buffoon is their best candidate? Is there really nobody better? What have we come to when the Democrats incumbent looks like he should be in an old people’s home chilling rather than having the keys to the world’s largest nuclear arsenal! Where are the capable, intelligent, physically and mentally fit candidates for the biggest job on the planet? The Republicans have other candidates, the electorate appear to be rejecting them. Regardless of what you think of Trump personally, this goes to further embolden him and his supporters. The Democrats have been doing this for a while now, it isn't working. When will the left learn that 'cancelling' isn't working anymore? The bloke literally started an insurrection that lead to Members of Congress having to hide in emergency tunnels who would have been killed otherwise. It's not they have cancelled him, he went against the constitution and has now suffered the consequences. If that is genuinely your view then I do fear for your understanding of the situation. When will right wingers learn the law applies to them too? When the law is used against them. This is a f*ick around, and find out scenario playing out. Wash wahh why are the people holding me accountable for my actions that put the fate of the country and elected representatives in danger. " Maybe when he's found guilty and convicted? But that hasn't happened yet.. | |||
"Trouble with trump is that he doesn't toe the line and will not follow the narrative. So that is an issue for other governments. I think trump is so popular because of the midwest I read that they had been forgotten and trump gave them a voice again. And again if a group of people are forgotten they will come back and bite those who forgot them in the ass, looks like a second bite is coming. Snake oil salesmen are believed by some . Someone may believe that they are forgotten and believe BS, perhaps thinking tax cuts benefitting the Uberwealthy really did trickle down to them . Unlike the major investments nationally from Biden, which boost the financial well-being. "Are you for real? Look what "bidenomics" has done to the US.. no wonder they are crying out for Trump back. The Democrats should be ashamed basically scored an open goal and why on earth are they letting that geriatric run again.. | |||
"Ignorance on my part, but are judges political appointments,which is why this is being seen as "cancel culture". I've read bits on the case, and why it's touch and go... But may have assumed incorrectly the judicial system is independent " Yes and no the filibuster meant that you would need to elect a judge both sides could agree on butbthe Democrats got rid of that so they could appoint what judges fit there narrative. Kind of backfired on them with Trumps win and then the Republicans erecting more right wing judges. Kind of serves them right tbh. | |||
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"More signs from the US of leftists driven mad by Trump Derangement Syndrome. The Colorado Supreme Court has decided that Donald Trump cannot appear on the ballot paper for Republican Primaries. No doubt a terrible decision that will be overturned by the US Supreme Court. But yet more signs of the dangerous shift by the Western left towards anti democratic authoritarianism. It also shows the panic that seems to be gripping the Democrats, as they come to terms with the fact that it’s looking increasingly possibly that Trump will beat the hapless Biden in 2024. If the electorate can’t be trusted, best not to give them the choice. " Interesting take. You omit the fact that Trump was legally removed from the Colorado ballot because he fomented a coup. The ruling is constitutional. If the Supreme Court overturn it it will be because Trump has loaded it with partisan judges. So from another perspective, you could argue that better evidence that US is turning into a banana republic is the enduring popularity of a flagrantly corrupt career fraudster, sex offender and aspiring dictator. Of course the Democrats are doing a piss-poor job of coming up with an alternative, which I'd argue is evidence of the brokenness of the system, rather than some nonsense about the Left's shift towards authoritarianism - of which there is no evidence other than on conspiracy theory podcasts. | |||
"Ignorance on my part, but are judges political appointments,which is why this is being seen as "cancel culture". I've read bits on the case, and why it's touch and go... But may have assumed incorrectly the judicial system is independent " I *believe* in the USA the Supreme Court Judges (might be wrong title but basically the group of top judges in the land) are indeed political appointees but their number is limited and only get replaced when one steps down/retires/dies. The President can then appoint. May have that wrong though? | |||
"More signs from the US of leftists driven mad by Trump Derangement Syndrome. The Colorado Supreme Court has decided that Donald Trump cannot appear on the ballot paper for Republican Primaries. No doubt a terrible decision that will be overturned by the US Supreme Court. But yet more signs of the dangerous shift by the Western left towards anti democratic authoritarianism. It also shows the panic that seems to be gripping the Democrats, as they come to terms with the fact that it’s looking increasingly possibly that Trump will beat the hapless Biden in 2024. If the electorate can’t be trusted, best not to give them the choice. Interesting take. You omit the fact that Trump was legally removed from the Colorado ballot because he fomented a coup. The ruling is constitutional. If the Supreme Court overturn it it will be because Trump has loaded it with partisan judges. So from another perspective, you could argue that better evidence that US is turning into a banana republic is the enduring popularity of a flagrantly corrupt career fraudster, sex offender and aspiring dictator. Of course the Democrats are doing a piss-poor job of coming up with an alternative, which I'd argue is evidence of the brokenness of the system, rather than some nonsense about the Left's shift towards authoritarianism - of which there is no evidence other than on conspiracy theory podcasts." He has not been charged with insurrection, so how can they remove him from the ballot based on him being guilty of insurrection? This smacks of electoral interference. | |||
"Ignorance on my part, but are judges political appointments,which is why this is being seen as "cancel culture". I've read bits on the case, and why it's touch and go... But may have assumed incorrectly the judicial system is independent I *believe* in the USA the Supreme Court Judges (might be wrong title but basically the group of top judges in the land) are indeed political appointees but their number is limited and only get replaced when one steps down/retires/dies. The President can then appoint. May have that wrong though?" This is pretty much spot on, it sadly undermines the point of judges. | |||
"More signs from the US of leftists driven mad by Trump Derangement Syndrome. The Colorado Supreme Court has decided that Donald Trump cannot appear on the ballot paper for Republican Primaries. No doubt a terrible decision that will be overturned by the US Supreme Court. But yet more signs of the dangerous shift by the Western left towards anti democratic authoritarianism. It also shows the panic that seems to be gripping the Democrats, as they come to terms with the fact that it’s looking increasingly possibly that Trump will beat the hapless Biden in 2024. If the electorate can’t be trusted, best not to give them the choice. " Er… nope Article 14 section C of the United States Constitution states you cannot run for federal office if you have taken part in insurrection against the united state Actually you show your don’t have a clue in how the ruling came about in your workings roger… so here is a TLDR primer for you What the Colorado lower court originally decided when the case came before them was that he had committed insurrection… but he had some sort of “presidential immunity”.. so he could stay on the primary ballot… Funny enough both sides appealed the decision… the trump side appealed because they said he has committed insurrection, the people side that he had “presidential immunity” What the Colorado Supreme Court said was they agreed with the lower court in that trump had engaged in insurrection…. But disagree that no one person was above the law so did not have presidential immunity….. So because of the first bit.. article 14 section c stands…. And here comes the bit that will make roger fall off his chair…… I agree it will be overturned in the Supreme Court! But not because of Roger’s ineptitude at a diatribe… let’s go on… Trump is arguing 3 different things before the Supreme Court 1) he has presidential immunity because he had done everything in his then official role as Donald trump, president of the United States.. not as Donald J Trump, Republican Party candidate…..That won’t work because there are multiple witnesses upon witnesses who told him he lost the election, they will say his January 6th was about saving his own ass! 2) double jeopardy because he was found innocent by the senate…. Won’t work because a) impeachment is not a criminal matter, it’s a political one! He was only found innocent because they were 4 votes shy of 2/3rd majority what was needed… because they said it is a matter that should be settled by the courts! 3) he hasn’t personally been found guilty in relation to insurrection… he has been “insurrection adjacent” so to speak, on his orders ect ect… that is the one that we keep him on the primary ballot ! For now….. and I say for now! And this is where the jack smith March trial against trump for actions related to his actions after the November election and January 6th comes in When.. and we all know it will be when.. he is convicted look because it will be over before the nation conventions…as soon as he is officially nominated for president as the Republican Party candidate… look for states to declare him ineligible for federal office again under article 14 section C And this is what will potentially keep him off the general election ballot…. And this time they will have a much stronger case for insurrection because of the guilty verdict…. | |||
"Ignorance on my part, but are judges political appointments,which is why this is being seen as "cancel culture". I've read bits on the case, and why it's touch and go... But may have assumed incorrectly the judicial system is independent Yes and no the filibuster meant that you would need to elect a judge both sides could agree on butbthe Democrats got rid of that so they could appoint what judges fit there narrative. Kind of backfired on them with Trumps win and then the Republicans erecting more right wing judges. Kind of serves them right tbh." Actually that is not true… the filibuster stands.. where you need 60 votes to amend anything in the constitution, it was the republicans that carved out an exception for supreme courts justices…. So you just need a majority rather than a super majority…Which is how all of trumps nominees all got on the court with 1-2 vote majorities Funny thing is that for federal courts judges … because it’s dealt with by then senate only… the president nominates potentials… but the senate has to approve them out of sub committee before the main vote So in the last 2 years of Obama.. because he was a democrat and the senate was republican, Mitch McConnell refused every single potential judge nominated by Obama out of subcommittee.. so there were no new federal judges confirmed Also because of the Republican majority they decide business on the floor of the senate, so when Scalia died…. And Obama nominated merrick garland (remember that name) to be the judge to replace… McConnell stopped it coming to the floor of the senate for a vote for 15 months saying the next president should make the decision Trump wins… garland becomes gorsich … democrats filibuster gorsich, republicans then use the nuclear option of the carve out so it becomes a simple majority Then 90 days before the last election .. Ruth bader Ginsberg dies… democrats remember what McConnell says about how it should be next president’s choice McConnell then develops amnesia and rushes through the confirmation of Amy coney barratt within 70 days And when Biden won the election, he named the new AG and head at justice… merrick garland! 
Anyway… just a long winded way of saying all judicial appointments at federal level or above are presidential appointmented | |||
"More signs from the US of leftists driven mad by Trump Derangement Syndrome. The Colorado Supreme Court has decided that Donald Trump cannot appear on the ballot paper for Republican Primaries. No doubt a terrible decision that will be overturned by the US Supreme Court. But yet more signs of the dangerous shift by the Western left towards anti democratic authoritarianism. It also shows the panic that seems to be gripping the Democrats, as they come to terms with the fact that it’s looking increasingly possibly that Trump will beat the hapless Biden in 2024. If the electorate can’t be trusted, best not to give them the choice. Interesting take. You omit the fact that Trump was legally removed from the Colorado ballot because he fomented a coup. The ruling is constitutional. If the Supreme Court overturn it it will be because Trump has loaded it with partisan judges. So from another perspective, you could argue that better evidence that US is turning into a banana republic is the enduring popularity of a flagrantly corrupt career fraudster, sex offender and aspiring dictator. Of course the Democrats are doing a piss-poor job of coming up with an alternative, which I'd argue is evidence of the brokenness of the system, rather than some nonsense about the Left's shift towards authoritarianism - of which there is no evidence other than on conspiracy theory podcasts. He has not been charged with insurrection, so how can they remove him from the ballot based on him being guilty of insurrection? This smacks of electoral interference." Read Art.14.3 of the U.S. Constitution. The wording of legal documents being absolutely paramount, you'll note the language is "engaged in". Not "charged with", "found guilty of", "convicted of by court of law" or any other such wording. This gives the Colorado SC more than enough latitude to determine from the abundant evidence that Trump definitely attempted to overturn a legitimate Presidential election and arguably encouraged an act of terrorism against a seat of national government. It's so weird that people are entirely prepared to describe a state SC verdict as "electoral interference" but see no apparent issue with the candidate in question having reached out to state executives to request that they literally fabricate votes in his favour. | |||
"More signs from the US of leftists driven mad by Trump Derangement Syndrome. The Colorado Supreme Court has decided that Donald Trump cannot appear on the ballot paper for Republican Primaries. No doubt a terrible decision that will be overturned by the US Supreme Court. But yet more signs of the dangerous shift by the Western left towards anti democratic authoritarianism. It also shows the panic that seems to be gripping the Democrats, as they come to terms with the fact that it’s looking increasingly possibly that Trump will beat the hapless Biden in 2024. If the electorate can’t be trusted, best not to give them the choice. Interesting take. You omit the fact that Trump was legally removed from the Colorado ballot because he fomented a coup. The ruling is constitutional. If the Supreme Court overturn it it will be because Trump has loaded it with partisan judges. So from another perspective, you could argue that better evidence that US is turning into a banana republic is the enduring popularity of a flagrantly corrupt career fraudster, sex offender and aspiring dictator. Of course the Democrats are doing a piss-poor job of coming up with an alternative, which I'd argue is evidence of the brokenness of the system, rather than some nonsense about the Left's shift towards authoritarianism - of which there is no evidence other than on conspiracy theory podcasts. He has not been charged with insurrection, so how can they remove him from the ballot based on him being guilty of insurrection? This smacks of electoral interference. Read Art.14.3 of the U.S. Constitution. The wording of legal documents being absolutely paramount, you'll note the language is "engaged in". Not "charged with", "found guilty of", "convicted of by court of law" or any other such wording. This gives the Colorado SC more than enough latitude to determine from the abundant evidence that Trump definitely attempted to overturn a legitimate Presidential election and arguably encouraged an act of terrorism against a seat of national government. It's so weird that people are entirely prepared to describe a state SC verdict as "electoral interference" but see no apparent issue with the candidate in question having reached out to state executives to request that they literally fabricate votes in his favour." And the Colorado Supreme Court have made it as awkward as possible to find against them because in the 200 page verdict they lean and quote extensively a person who at the time was on that court giving verdicts on other state election matters…. That judges name…. Neil gorsich…. As in now SCOTUS judge Neil gorsich I still think 5-4 or 6-3 trump gets his 1st ever Supreme Court verdict… but the summary is going gorsich squirm | |||
"Ignorance on my part, but are judges political appointments,which is why this is being seen as "cancel culture". I've read bits on the case, and why it's touch and go... But may have assumed incorrectly the judicial system is independent I *believe* in the USA the Supreme Court Judges (might be wrong title but basically the group of top judges in the land) are indeed political appointees but their number is limited and only get replaced when one steps down/retires/dies. The President can then appoint. May have that wrong though? This is pretty much spot on, it sadly undermines the point of judges. " My memory not completely shot yet then!
Agreed. Seems bizarre that in the “land of the free” and supposed beacon for democracy, they have ignored the three pillars of true democracy...
The Executive
The Legislature (to hold the Executive in check)
The Judiciary (independent based purely on supremacy of law to hold the Executive and Legislature to account). | |||
"Ignorance on my part, but are judges political appointments,which is why this is being seen as "cancel culture". I've read bits on the case, and why it's touch and go... But may have assumed incorrectly the judicial system is independent I *believe* in the USA the Supreme Court Judges (might be wrong title but basically the group of top judges in the land) are indeed political appointees but their number is limited and only get replaced when one steps down/retires/dies. The President can then appoint. May have that wrong though? This is pretty much spot on, it sadly undermines the point of judges. My memory not completely shot yet then!
Agreed. Seems bizarre that in the “land of the free” and supposed beacon for democracy, they have ignored the three pillars of true democracy...
The Executive
The Legislature (to hold the Executive in check)
The Judiciary (independent based purely on supremacy of law to hold the Executive and Legislature to account). "becon of democracy pmsl yea only if you follow there version of democracy, if you dont then they will just come destroy your country | |||
"More signs from the US of leftists driven mad by Trump Derangement Syndrome. The Colorado Supreme Court has decided that Donald Trump cannot appear on the ballot paper for Republican Primaries. No doubt a terrible decision that will be overturned by the US Supreme Court. But yet more signs of the dangerous shift by the Western left towards anti democratic authoritarianism. It also shows the panic that seems to be gripping the Democrats, as they come to terms with the fact that it’s looking increasingly possibly that Trump will beat the hapless Biden in 2024. If the electorate can’t be trusted, best not to give them the choice. Interesting take. You omit the fact that Trump was legally removed from the Colorado ballot because he fomented a coup. The ruling is constitutional. If the Supreme Court overturn it it will be because Trump has loaded it with partisan judges. So from another perspective, you could argue that better evidence that US is turning into a banana republic is the enduring popularity of a flagrantly corrupt career fraudster, sex offender and aspiring dictator. Of course the Democrats are doing a piss-poor job of coming up with an alternative, which I'd argue is evidence of the brokenness of the system, rather than some nonsense about the Left's shift towards authoritarianism - of which there is no evidence other than on conspiracy theory podcasts. He has not been charged with insurrection, so how can they remove him from the ballot based on him being guilty of insurrection? This smacks of electoral interference. Read Art.14.3 of the U.S. Constitution. The wording of legal documents being absolutely paramount, you'll note the language is "engaged in". Not "charged with", "found guilty of", "convicted of by court of law" or any other such wording. This gives the Colorado SC more than enough latitude to determine from the abundant evidence that Trump definitely attempted to overturn a legitimate Presidential election and arguably encouraged an act of terrorism against a seat of national government. It's so weird that people are entirely prepared to describe a state SC verdict as "electoral interference" but see no apparent issue with the candidate in question having reached out to state executives to request that they literally fabricate votes in his favour." Firstly, how can a single person make a judgement on guilt without a hearing? Is this allowed in the US, a person can be found guilty of an offence they are not charged with, or have been to court to defend? Secondly, whatever Trump has been charged with will be heard in a court at some point and his innocence or guilt will be discovered. This has nothing to do with 2 states blocking him from the ballot, and this is why it looks like interference from my point of view. | |||
" Firstly, how can a single person make a judgement on guilt without a hearing? Is this allowed in the US, a person can be found guilty of an offence they are not charged with, or have been to court to defend?" Actually in every single state this has come up in so far… Colorado, Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, Maine there have been state court hearings….. and in every single one there has been a trump defence team (see my post where I specifically stated what has happened in Colorado) In most of the states so far verdicts have been close… 4-3 in favour of keeping him on.. the Colorado case was 4-3 against " Secondly, whatever Trump has been charged with will be heard in a court at some point and his innocence or guilt will be discovered. This has nothing to do with 2 states blocking him from the ballot, and this is why it looks like interference from my point of view. " Actually you have states rights and federal rights….every election has a minimum federal standard but after that states can conduct races as they see fit! Interference is an interesting word to use.. since you could claim that is exactly what trump tried to do in Georgia… and Michigan… and Wisconsin… and Nevada…. And Arizona… and Pennsylvania Interesting bit is that in all those states except Pennsylvania, a combination of local and national figures are being charged with obstruction of an election | |||
" Firstly, how can a single person make a judgement on guilt without a hearing? Is this allowed in the US, a person can be found guilty of an offence they are not charged with, or have been to court to defend? Actually in every single state this has come up in so far… Colorado, Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, Maine there have been state court hearings….. and in every single one there has been a trump defence team (see my post where I specifically stated what has happened in Colorado) In most of the states so far verdicts have been close… 4-3 in favour of keeping him on.. the Colorado case was 4-3 against Secondly, whatever Trump has been charged with will be heard in a court at some point and his innocence or guilt will be discovered. This has nothing to do with 2 states blocking him from the ballot, and this is why it looks like interference from my point of view. Actually you have states rights and federal rights….every election has a minimum federal standard but after that states can conduct races as they see fit! Interference is an interesting word to use.. since you could claim that is exactly what trump tried to do in Georgia… and Michigan… and Wisconsin… and Nevada…. And Arizona… and Pennsylvania Interesting bit is that in all those states except Pennsylvania, a combination of local and national figures are being charged with obstruction of an election "Can you honestly say that this action is not an attempt to stop Trump becoming president by the democrats? | |||
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"P.s I need you to find me 11,780 votes… because I won Georgia!!! Hmm… sounds like obstruction of an election, attempted election tampering, " I'm not going to defend him, he will face into the charges against him and the verdict will stand. This is why I feel it is interference, states doing whatever they can to prohibit his chances, and judging him state by state, there is an obvious opportunities to keep him out. | |||
" Can you honestly say that this action is not an attempt to stop Trump becoming president by the democrats? " Nope… he was the firestarter in an insurrection knowing that he had lost an election! He lost 56 cases in court…. If he wanted his day in court why is he trying to block everyone single avenue to a federal trial in four different cases…. Delay delay delay | |||
"P.s I need you to find me 11,780 votes… because I won Georgia!!! Hmm… sounds like obstruction of an election, attempted election tampering, I'm not going to defend him, he will face into the charges against him and the verdict will stand. This is why I feel it is interference, states doing whatever they can to prohibit his chances, and judging him state by state, there is an obvious opportunities to keep him out. " No.. state are applying the us constitution how they see fit.. the minimum level of running for federal office is not engaging in an insurrection…. There is no insurrection is he doesn’t keep telling people the election was rigged when he and his advisors fully know that was a lie… He is instigator of his own downfall… | |||
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"P.s I need you to find me 11,780 votes… because I won Georgia!!! Hmm… sounds like obstruction of an election, attempted election tampering, I'm not going to defend him, he will face into the charges against him and the verdict will stand. This is why I feel it is interference, states doing whatever they can to prohibit his chances, and judging him state by state, there is an obvious opportunities to keep him out. No.. state are applying the us constitution how they see fit.. the minimum level of running for federal office is not engaging in an insurrection…. There is no insurrection is he doesn’t keep telling people the election was rigged when he and his advisors fully know that was a lie… He is instigator of his own downfall… " You have your view and I have mine, which is the democrats are doing everything they can to cancel him, interference and running scared is the lens I'm seeing through. | |||
"Love the way people keep saying insurection, unarmed people go to capitol gaurds let them in and apart from handfull of loons most of em looked like they were sight seeing and also didnt orange man bad tell them to protest peacefully?" Yes, yes, that's exactly what happened as long as you ignore or misrepresent about 95% of the facts. | |||
" You have your view and I have mine, which is the democrats are doing everything they can to cancel him, interference and running scared is the lens I'm seeing through." The concern is that you seem to be seeing through the same lens as people who end up losing nine-figure defamation lawsuits. It's not possible for a sane person to conclude that Trump is an honest broker seeking office merely for the betterment of the lives of his fellow Americans. Accordingly it's hard to take seriously any claims that endeavours by multiple law enforcement agencies to hold him accountable for his multiple, obvious, massive crimes are nothing more than desperate attempts to gain an unfair political advantage. | |||
" Firstly, how can a single person make a judgement on guilt without a hearing? Is this allowed in the US, a person can be found guilty of an offence they are not charged with, or have been to court to defend? Secondly, whatever Trump has been charged with will be heard in a court at some point and his innocence or guilt will be discovered. This has nothing to do with 2 states blocking him from the ballot, and this is why it looks like interference from my point of view. " So, the Colorado SC is more than one person. They are also not the only legislative body to take steps to exclude Trump from the ballot over his botched coup attempt. Secondly, disqualifying someone from running for national office is not the same process as convicting them of a crime. There is no right to presumption of innocence. I guess my question to you is, do you think that Trump is a fit person to hold the office of President of the United States, and if so why? | |||
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" Firstly, how can a single person make a judgement on guilt without a hearing? Is this allowed in the US, a person can be found guilty of an offence they are not charged with, or have been to court to defend? Secondly, whatever Trump has been charged with will be heard in a court at some point and his innocence or guilt will be discovered. This has nothing to do with 2 states blocking him from the ballot, and this is why it looks like interference from my point of view. So, the Colorado SC is more than one person. They are also not the only legislative body to take steps to exclude Trump from the ballot over his botched coup attempt. Secondly, disqualifying someone from running for national office is not the same process as convicting them of a crime. There is no right to presumption of innocence. I guess my question to you is, do you think that Trump is a fit person to hold the office of President of the United States, and if so why?" Trump and his abilities / credibility to become POTUS again, is not for me to make, it should be left to the electorate to make that decision. I don't think the states who are using any means they can and are preventing the electorate having that choice, should be applauded for their censorship. As for who makes the decision at state level, according to Maine, Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, Democrat: it was her who made that decision. | |||
" Firstly, how can a single person make a judgement on guilt without a hearing? Is this allowed in the US, a person can be found guilty of an offence they are not charged with, or have been to court to defend? Secondly, whatever Trump has been charged with will be heard in a court at some point and his innocence or guilt will be discovered. This has nothing to do with 2 states blocking him from the ballot, and this is why it looks like interference from my point of view. So, the Colorado SC is more than one person. They are also not the only legislative body to take steps to exclude Trump from the ballot over his botched coup attempt. Secondly, disqualifying someone from running for national office is not the same process as convicting them of a crime. There is no right to presumption of innocence. I guess my question to you is, do you think that Trump is a fit person to hold the office of President of the United States, and if so why? Trump and his abilities / credibility to become POTUS again, is not for me to make, it should be left to the electorate to make that decision. I don't think the states who are using any means they can and are preventing the electorate having that choice, should be applauded for their censorship. As for who makes the decision at state level, according to Maine, Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, Democrat: it was her who made that decision." I don't find it credible that you have such a strong opinion about the lawmakers trying to keep a con man out of national office, yet you won't make a pronouncement on Trump's fitness to serve. It's a familiar narrative now, though. Trump is such a flagrant fraudster, as well as an objectively revolting human being, morally, politically and in all other respects, that it's impossible to defend him or to describe his merits. So his supporters are left to attack his opponents and describe any legitimate attempt to stop his nihilistic assault on democracy as some kind of leftist conspiracy. The truth is that as well as being a serial grifter he was a fundamentally incompetent President, so on balance if there are technically legal means to prevent him from slithering his way back into power it would be a benefit to the American people - even if many of them are gullible, bitter, ignorant and/or vindictive enough to still think he's their man. | |||
" Firstly, how can a single person make a judgement on guilt without a hearing? Is this allowed in the US, a person can be found guilty of an offence they are not charged with, or have been to court to defend? Secondly, whatever Trump has been charged with will be heard in a court at some point and his innocence or guilt will be discovered. This has nothing to do with 2 states blocking him from the ballot, and this is why it looks like interference from my point of view. So, the Colorado SC is more than one person. They are also not the only legislative body to take steps to exclude Trump from the ballot over his botched coup attempt. Secondly, disqualifying someone from running for national office is not the same process as convicting them of a crime. There is no right to presumption of innocence. I guess my question to you is, do you think that Trump is a fit person to hold the office of President of the United States, and if so why? Trump and his abilities / credibility to become POTUS again, is not for me to make, it should be left to the electorate to make that decision. I don't think the states who are using any means they can and are preventing the electorate having that choice, should be applauded for their censorship. As for who makes the decision at state level, according to Maine, Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, Democrat: it was her who made that decision. I don't find it credible that you have such a strong opinion about the lawmakers trying to keep a con man out of national office, yet you won't make a pronouncement on Trump's fitness to serve. It's a familiar narrative now, though. Trump is such a flagrant fraudster, as well as an objectively revolting human being, morally, politically and in all other respects, that it's impossible to defend him or to describe his merits. So his supporters are left to attack his opponents and describe any legitimate attempt to stop his nihilistic assault on democracy as some kind of leftist conspiracy. The truth is that as well as being a serial grifter he was a fundamentally incompetent President, so on balance if there are technically legal means to prevent him from slithering his way back into power it would be a benefit to the American people - even if many of them are gullible, bitter, ignorant and/or vindictive enough to still think he's their man." You have said nothing in the reply above other than attack my point of view that a single person in Maine, in my opinion should not be deciding who can enter or can't enter the ballot, as I said I believe that is for the people to decide at the time of election. Your loathing for him clouds your judgement and it is not a pretty look, because you have completely overlooked the fact I have not supported him as a person or a candidate and therefore you have twisted my words into something it isn't.. but it is expected from the progressive liberal left, who want no challenge to their views and will stop at nothing to close down the opposition. | |||
"Love the way people keep saying insurection, unarmed people go to capitol gaurds let them in and apart from handfull of loons most of em looked like they were sight seeing and also didnt orange man bad tell them to protest peacefully? Mabey if they had set fire to stuff it would be viewed as mostly peacefull, personaly i hope he gets elected and its the start of the bastard race of the usa collapsing, i meen after all its a country founded by religious nut jobs the uk didnt want on there shores" We know that the “people were unarmed” bit actually wasn’t quite true for 2 reasons… 1) the Washington DC metro police intercepted some members of the proud boys on the way to DC a few days before and confiscated weapons (those members were then barred from being in Washington on January 6th including one of the leaders of the proud boy’s enrico tarrio) 2) at the January 6th hearings we found out that it was disclosed to trump that people with guns were trying to get into his speech venue by the secret service… his response was “let them in, they are not here to harm me!) There were groups that were tooled up on that day… members of the proud boy’s were! Members of the oathkeepers were! Don’t make it sound like it was some sort of innocent jolly because we know in the end it wasn’t trump who called up the national guard.. it was a combination of vice president Mike pence and then house leader Nancy pelosi because trump was in a huff and gone AWOL! If the orange man told them to go protest peacefully.. how come so many police personnel got injured on that day? | |||
" Firstly, how can a single person make a judgement on guilt without a hearing? Is this allowed in the US, a person can be found guilty of an offence they are not charged with, or have been to court to defend? Secondly, whatever Trump has been charged with will be heard in a court at some point and his innocence or guilt will be discovered. This has nothing to do with 2 states blocking him from the ballot, and this is why it looks like interference from my point of view. So, the Colorado SC is more than one person. They are also not the only legislative body to take steps to exclude Trump from the ballot over his botched coup attempt. Secondly, disqualifying someone from running for national office is not the same process as convicting them of a crime. There is no right to presumption of innocence. I guess my question to you is, do you think that Trump is a fit person to hold the office of President of the United States, and if so why? Trump and his abilities / credibility to become POTUS again, is not for me to make, it should be left to the electorate to make that decision. I don't think the states who are using any means they can and are preventing the electorate having that choice, should be applauded for their censorship. As for who makes the decision at state level, according to Maine, Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, Democrat: it was her who made that decision. I don't find it credible that you have such a strong opinion about the lawmakers trying to keep a con man out of national office, yet you won't make a pronouncement on Trump's fitness to serve. It's a familiar narrative now, though. Trump is such a flagrant fraudster, as well as an objectively revolting human being, morally, politically and in all other respects, that it's impossible to defend him or to describe his merits. So his supporters are left to attack his opponents and describe any legitimate attempt to stop his nihilistic assault on democracy as some kind of leftist conspiracy. The truth is that as well as being a serial grifter he was a fundamentally incompetent President, so on balance if there are technically legal means to prevent him from slithering his way back into power it would be a benefit to the American people - even if many of them are gullible, bitter, ignorant and/or vindictive enough to still think he's their man. You have said nothing in the reply above other than attack my point of view that a single person in Maine, in my opinion should not be deciding who can enter or can't enter the ballot, as I said I believe that is for the people to decide at the time of election. Your loathing for him clouds your judgement and it is not a pretty look, because you have completely overlooked the fact I have not supported him as a person or a candidate and therefore you have twisted my words into something it isn't.. but it is expected from the progressive liberal left, who want no challenge to their views and will stop at nothing to close down the opposition. " Yes, I do see that you have not explicitly supported him. Your persistent opposition to wholly legitimate efforts to prevent him from perpetrating a further fraud on the American public however speaks volumes, as does your comment about the "progressive Liberal left". As code goes, it's hardly unbreakable. On a simple point of argument though, you're contending that the people should decide who can and can't enter the ballot... by voting for people who are already on the ballot? I think your misunderstanding might be on the fundamental difference between being eligible to run for office, and actually being elected to office. The American people have literally never had a say in who makes it onto the ballot. | |||
" Firstly, how can a single person make a judgement on guilt without a hearing? Is this allowed in the US, a person can be found guilty of an offence they are not charged with, or have been to court to defend? Secondly, whatever Trump has been charged with will be heard in a court at some point and his innocence or guilt will be discovered. This has nothing to do with 2 states blocking him from the ballot, and this is why it looks like interference from my point of view. So, the Colorado SC is more than one person. They are also not the only legislative body to take steps to exclude Trump from the ballot over his botched coup attempt. Secondly, disqualifying someone from running for national office is not the same process as convicting them of a crime. There is no right to presumption of innocence. I guess my question to you is, do you think that Trump is a fit person to hold the office of President of the United States, and if so why? Trump and his abilities / credibility to become POTUS again, is not for me to make, it should be left to the electorate to make that decision. I don't think the states who are using any means they can and are preventing the electorate having that choice, should be applauded for their censorship. As for who makes the decision at state level, according to Maine, Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, Democrat: it was her who made that decision. I don't find it credible that you have such a strong opinion about the lawmakers trying to keep a con man out of national office, yet you won't make a pronouncement on Trump's fitness to serve. It's a familiar narrative now, though. Trump is such a flagrant fraudster, as well as an objectively revolting human being, morally, politically and in all other respects, that it's impossible to defend him or to describe his merits. So his supporters are left to attack his opponents and describe any legitimate attempt to stop his nihilistic assault on democracy as some kind of leftist conspiracy. The truth is that as well as being a serial grifter he was a fundamentally incompetent President, so on balance if there are technically legal means to prevent him from slithering his way back into power it would be a benefit to the American people - even if many of them are gullible, bitter, ignorant and/or vindictive enough to still think he's their man. You have said nothing in the reply above other than attack my point of view that a single person in Maine, in my opinion should not be deciding who can enter or can't enter the ballot, as I said I believe that is for the people to decide at the time of election. Your loathing for him clouds your judgement and it is not a pretty look, because you have completely overlooked the fact I have not supported him as a person or a candidate and therefore you have twisted my words into something it isn't.. but it is expected from the progressive liberal left, who want no challenge to their views and will stop at nothing to close down the opposition. Yes, I do see that you have not explicitly supported him. Your persistent opposition to wholly legitimate efforts to prevent him from perpetrating a further fraud on the American public however speaks volumes, as does your comment about the "progressive Liberal left". As code goes, it's hardly unbreakable. On a simple point of argument though, you're contending that the people should decide who can and can't enter the ballot... by voting for people who are already on the ballot? I think your misunderstanding might be on the fundamental difference between being eligible to run for office, and actually being elected to office. The American people have literally never had a say in who makes it onto the ballot." This part of you reply sums you up perfectly: "Your persistent opposition to wholly legitimate efforts to prevent him from perpetrating a further fraud on the American public however speaks volumes". Read what has been written, take note and stop filling in the blanks with your personal mind led vitriol replies. If you would like to discuss the merits of a single person making the decision on who people can vote for, i'm interested... Anything outside that, I'm not interested which should save your time and effort. | |||
" This part of you reply sums you up perfectly: "Your persistent opposition to wholly legitimate efforts to prevent him from perpetrating a further fraud on the American public however speaks volumes". Read what has been written, take note and stop filling in the blanks with your personal mind led vitriol replies. If you would like to discuss the merits of a single person making the decision on who people can vote for, i'm interested... Anything outside that, I'm not interested which should save your time and effort. " Yeah, sure, let's narrow the parameters of the discussion to leave only the single cherrypicked fact that supports your tenuous viewpoint. That's intellectually honest. But you're right, this is a totally pointless discussion and will remain so for as long as some people refuse to admit their motives. See you later. | |||
