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By *astandFeisty OP   Couple  over a year ago

Bournemouth

So, Mr Starmer first appeared at Chatham House wearing a poppy during a speech.

Then he removes the poppy to make a speech about Islamophobia Awareness Month.

Why? Just trying to play to different sections of the electorate?

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By *uddy laneMan  over a year ago

dudley

He also snatched some sweeties of someone.

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

Because kier smarmer is no different to most other politicians, say and do watever he thinks will make people vote for him, luckily more and more people are starting to realise these people dont work for the people of this country, they work for special intrest groups and big buisness

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma

His lacks conviction and proves time and time again he will bow down to pressure

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"So, Mr Starmer first appeared at Chatham House wearing a poppy during a speech.

Then he removes the poppy to make a speech about Islamophobia Awareness Month.

Why? Just trying to play to different sections of the electorate?"

Probably some stupid overly PC advisor said it would be a good gesture.

Or he's being sabotaged from within.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"Because kier smarmer is no different to most other politicians, say and do watever he thinks will make people vote for him, luckily more and more people are starting to realise these people dont work for the people of this country, they work for special intrest groups and big buisness"

100% agree.

I would say the entire system of parliamentary democracy in this country is not fit for the purpose of governing the country in the interests of the people who live here.

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"So, Mr Starmer first appeared at Chatham House wearing a poppy during a speech.

Then he removes the poppy to make a speech about Islamophobia Awareness Month.

Why? Just trying to play to different sections of the electorate?"

Who does he think will be offended by a poppy has got me puzzled

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple  over a year ago

Border of London


"Who does he think will be offended by a poppy has got me puzzled"

https://islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/13155/what-is-the-view-of-islam-regarding-the-wearing-of-a-poppy-in-britain-to-commemorate-the-soldiers-of-the-world-wars/

https://themuslimvibe.com/muslim-current-affairs-news/why-i-wont-be-wearing-a-poppy-this-november

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/mar/07/muslim-extremist-fined-for-poppy-burning

Not everyone by a long shot, but it offends some of that particular demographic.

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Who does he think will be offended by a poppy has got me puzzled

https://islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/13155/what-is-the-view-of-islam-regarding-the-wearing-of-a-poppy-in-britain-to-commemorate-the-soldiers-of-the-world-wars/

https://themuslimvibe.com/muslim-current-affairs-news/why-i-wont-be-wearing-a-poppy-this-november

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/mar/07/muslim-extremist-fined-for-poppy-burning

Not everyone by a long shot, but it offends some of that particular demographic."

Thank you

Just been reading that there is a possibility of a massive protest march in London to disrupt remembrance day including the silence. It could turn nasty if not controlled

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By *astandFeisty OP   Couple  over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Who does he think will be offended by a poppy has got me puzzled

https://islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/13155/what-is-the-view-of-islam-regarding-the-wearing-of-a-poppy-in-britain-to-commemorate-the-soldiers-of-the-world-wars/

https://themuslimvibe.com/muslim-current-affairs-news/why-i-wont-be-wearing-a-poppy-this-november

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/mar/07/muslim-extremist-fined-for-poppy-burning

Not everyone by a long shot, but it offends some of that particular demographic.

Thank you

Just been reading that there is a possibility of a massive protest march in London to disrupt remembrance day including the silence. It could turn nasty if not controlled"

From what I read the march is on the Saturday. I have read that some are calling for 'non-silence' on the Sunday.

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Who does he think will be offended by a poppy has got me puzzled

https://islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/13155/what-is-the-view-of-islam-regarding-the-wearing-of-a-poppy-in-britain-to-commemorate-the-soldiers-of-the-world-wars/

https://themuslimvibe.com/muslim-current-affairs-news/why-i-wont-be-wearing-a-poppy-this-november

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/mar/07/muslim-extremist-fined-for-poppy-burning

Not everyone by a long shot, but it offends some of that particular demographic.

Thank you

Just been reading that there is a possibility of a massive protest march in London to disrupt remembrance day including the silence. It could turn nasty if not controlled

From what I read the march is on the Saturday. I have read that some are calling for 'non-silence' on the Sunday. "

It was not so clear in what I read but even calling for non silence on remembrance Sunday could cause problems. I wonder if SKS will have his poppy back on or to scared of offending someone

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By *enSiskoMan  over a year ago

Cestus 3

SKS is so obvious to me as he just does what he thinks looks right in other terms follows popular public opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you like SKS you will see this as a sign of empathy with other groups and a willingness to respect their feelings.

If you dislikes SKS you will see this as being a u turn and playing to the crowd.

Bit of a non story. A cynic would say useful to have during the covid enquiry.

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"Because kier smarmer is no different to most other politicians, say and do watever he thinks will make people vote for him, luckily more and more people are starting to realise these people dont work for the people of this country, they work for special intrest groups and big buisness

100% agree.

I would say the entire system of parliamentary democracy in this country is not fit for the purpose of governing the country in the interests of the people who live here."

this isnt anything new its been this way for as long as i can remeber, thatchers gov was the same so was blairs and if smarmer gets in he will carry it on,its a exclusive club and we aint in it

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By *ndycoinsMan  over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,


"So, Mr Starmer first appeared at Chatham House wearing a poppy during a speech.

Then he removes the poppy to make a speech about Islamophobia Awareness Month.

Why? Just trying to play to different sections of the electorate?

Who does he think will be offended by a poppy has got me puzzled"

The Muslims who believe Britain is responsible for the start of the troubles in Palestine,World war one,British Mandate and the defeat of the Ottoman Turks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Because kier smarmer is no different to most other politicians, say and do watever he thinks will make people vote for him, luckily more and more people are starting to realise these people dont work for the people of this country, they work for special intrest groups and big buisness"

Something I will completely agree with you on..

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By *coptoCouple  over a year ago

Côte d'Azur & Great Yarmouth

“When thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men”

Yup, it’s that time of year when everybody MUST wear a Poppy. Although our soldiers fought (and died) for freedom, that freedom evidently doesn’t extend to NOT wearing a Poppy.

Every TV presenter, newscaster etc. will be sporting one, any public figure who doesn’t will be castigated. And I guarantee that this year’s Royal Family will be in competition to see which of ‘em can wear the most (I think the record is five).

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By *ndycoinsMan  over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,


"“When thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men”

Yup, it’s that time of year when everybody MUST wear a Poppy. Although our soldiers fought (and died) for freedom, that freedom evidently doesn’t extend to NOT wearing a Poppy.

Every TV presenter, newscaster etc. will be sporting one, any public figure who doesn’t will be castigated. And I guarantee that this year’s Royal Family will be in competition to see which of ‘em can wear the most (I think the record is five)."

Its not about freedom,it's about Respect.

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"“When thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men”

Yup, it’s that time of year when everybody MUST wear a Poppy. Although our soldiers fought (and died) for freedom, that freedom evidently doesn’t extend to NOT wearing a Poppy.

Every TV presenter, newscaster etc. will be sporting one, any public figure who doesn’t will be castigated. And I guarantee that this year’s Royal Family will be in competition to see which of ‘em can wear the most (I think the record is five).

Its not about freedom,it's about Respect."

Absolutely

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"“When thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men”

Yup, it’s that time of year when everybody MUST wear a Poppy. Although our soldiers fought (and died) for freedom, that freedom evidently doesn’t extend to NOT wearing a Poppy.

Every TV presenter, newscaster etc. will be sporting one, any public figure who doesn’t will be castigated. And I guarantee that this year’s Royal Family will be in competition to see which of ‘em can wear the most (I think the record is five).

Its not about freedom,it's about Respect."

And people’s right not to wear a poppy should be respected. As should the right to wear a white poppy, or any combination.

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By *illowendMan  over a year ago

Southwold

Not true !


"Who does he think will be offended by a poppy has got me puzzled

https://islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/13155/what-is-the-view-of-islam-regarding-the-wearing-of-a-poppy-in-britain-to-commemorate-the-soldiers-of-the-world-wars/

https://themuslimvibe.com/muslim-current-affairs-news/why-i-wont-be-wearing-a-poppy-this-november

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/mar/07/muslim-extremist-fined-for-poppy-burning

Not everyone by a long shot, but it offends some of that particular demographic.

Thank you

Just been reading that there is a possibility of a massive protest march in London to disrupt remembrance day including the silence. It could turn nasty if not controlled"

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"“When thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men”

Yup, it’s that time of year when everybody MUST wear a Poppy. Although our soldiers fought (and died) for freedom, that freedom evidently doesn’t extend to NOT wearing a Poppy.

Every TV presenter, newscaster etc. will be sporting one, any public figure who doesn’t will be castigated. And I guarantee that this year’s Royal Family will be in competition to see which of ‘em can wear the most (I think the record is five).

Its not about freedom,it's about Respect."

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By *opinovMan  over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

I'm bemused when I see social media posts by people "wearing their poppy with pride" when those same people were complaining about others "virtue signaling" just a couple of days earlier.

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By *partansword78Man  over a year ago

Glasgow

Most politicians arn`t deserving enough to wear a poppy, they don`t know anything about bravery or selfless commitment. Only how to best serve themselves. Lest We Forget.

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By *ungapotamus27Man  over a year ago

cambridge

Told to take it off by WEF

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By *ustintime69Man  over a year ago

Bristol

Funny in a week that has news of a Tory MP having his r*pes covered up by the Tory Party, the continuing revelations of the Covid enquiry, Braverman outlawing tents for homeless people, the needless criminalisation of nitrous oxide users, not to mention the increasing lead in the polls that Labour have over the tories, that this “story” appears…anyone would think the Tories are running scared ??

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By *astandFeisty OP   Couple  over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Funny in a week that has news of a Tory MP having his r*pes covered up by the Tory Party, the continuing revelations of the Covid enquiry, Braverman outlawing tents for homeless people, the needless criminalisation of nitrous oxide users, not to mention the increasing lead in the polls that Labour have over the tories, that this “story” appears…anyone would think the Tories are running scared ??"

You must've missed the other threads on other topics you've listed...

Blinkered much?

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By *panksspankedMan  over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Who does he think will be offended by a poppy has got me puzzled

https://islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/13155/what-is-the-view-of-islam-regarding-the-wearing-of-a-poppy-in-britain-to-commemorate-the-soldiers-of-the-world-wars/

https://themuslimvibe.com/muslim-current-affairs-news/why-i-wont-be-wearing-a-poppy-this-november

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/mar/07/muslim-extremist-fined-for-poppy-burning

Not everyone by a long shot, but it offends some of that particular demographic.

Thank you

Just been reading that there is a possibility of a massive protest march in London to disrupt remembrance day including the silence. It could turn nasty if not controlled"

It is scheduled to start two hours after the silence. Surely a peace march is an appropriate thing for Armistice Day

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By *ustintime69Man  over a year ago

Bristol


"Funny in a week that has news of a Tory MP having his r*pes covered up by the Tory Party, the continuing revelations of the Covid enquiry, Braverman outlawing tents for homeless people, the needless criminalisation of nitrous oxide users, not to mention the increasing lead in the polls that Labour have over the tories, that this “story” appears…anyone would think the Tories are running scared ??

You must've missed the other threads on other topics you've listed...

Blinkered much?"

Just dipping my toe back in to the politics forum so I may not be quite up to speed but blinkered? No, more likeI am just talking shit like everyone else in this forum

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