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By *melie LAL OP   Woman  over a year ago

Peterborough

I have been watching The Long Shadow series, so impactful. Perhaps because I can clearly remember how the hunt for Peter Sutcliffe panned out in the media of the day. I clearly recall the march of women wanting to "reclaim the night": the freedom of walking the streets without fear.

Whether the police force were incompetent at the time is immaterial (they fixated on misconceptions that allowed PS to remain at large) is now a moot point, but the way the women who were attacked and survived were treated, was misogyny at its height.

With the police looking internally for criminals in their ranks, sadly it seems that they haven't progressed in the last 40 years.

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman  over a year ago

Peterborough

What I wasn't aware of was the length of his reign of terror, 1975-1980. I was seven when he started.

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"I have been watching The Long Shadow series, so impactful. Perhaps because I can clearly remember how the hunt for Peter Sutcliffe panned out in the media of the day. I clearly recall the march of women wanting to "reclaim the night": the freedom of walking the streets without fear.

Whether the police force were incompetent at the time is immaterial (they fixated on misconceptions that allowed PS to remain at large) is now a moot point, but the way the women who were attacked and survived were treated, was misogyny at its height.

With the police looking internally for criminals in their ranks, sadly it seems that they haven't progressed in the last 40 years. "

Interesting that you bring this up,I watched the ripper documentary the other day.

So although I was young during the 70's I clearly remember it.

As I got older it was still massive news.

But until I watched the documentary I'd never really thought about how they dehumanised the victims in the way they did.

Everything was centred around them being pros titute's not human beings with feelings and families and suddenly when a non pros titute gets killed the case take a "sinister turn" like they didn't really care before but they do now.

Not treating the victims as women, shocking.

The incompetence and chauvinistic attitude of the guys in charge just flabbergasted me.

Institutionalised sexism.

Once you see this you suddenly get an understanding how someone like Jimmy Saville was able to get away with what he did.

Ladies coming forward scared to be branded "silly girls" so opted to stay silent.

As much as I'd like to think the "establishment" is making progress in many ways it seems that we are regressing it feels like the 70's again at the moment.

Strike's,cost of living, firms going bust, war's and terrorism.

Sexism, racism, elitism.

It's not a good time at all.

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman  over a year ago

Peterborough


"I have been watching The Long Shadow series, so impactful. Perhaps because I can clearly remember how the hunt for Peter Sutcliffe panned out in the media of the day. I clearly recall the march of women wanting to "reclaim the night": the freedom of walking the streets without fear.

Whether the police force were incompetent at the time is immaterial (they fixated on misconceptions that allowed PS to remain at large) is now a moot point, but the way the women who were attacked and survived were treated, was misogyny at its height.

With the police looking internally for criminals in their ranks, sadly it seems that they haven't progressed in the last 40 years.

Interesting that you bring this up,I watched the ripper documentary the other day.

So although I was young during the 70's I clearly remember it.

As I got older it was still massive news.

But until I watched the documentary I'd never really thought about how they dehumanised the victims in the way they did.

Everything was centred around them being pros titute's not human beings with feelings and families and suddenly when a non pros titute gets killed the case take a "sinister turn" like they didn't really care before but they do now.

Not treating the victims as women, shocking.

The incompetence and chauvinistic attitude of the guys in charge just flabbergasted me.

Institutionalised sexism.

Once you see this you suddenly get an understanding how someone like Jimmy Saville was able to get away with what he did.

Ladies coming forward scared to be branded "silly girls" so opted to stay silent.

As much as I'd like to think the "establishment" is making progress in many ways it seems that we are regressing it feels like the 70's again at the moment.

Strike's,cost of living, firms going bust, war's and terrorism.

Sexism, racism, elitism.

It's not a good time at all."

And the younger, less experienced coppers were shouted down if they dared go against the inaccurate profiling.

If this had been a film, it wouldn't have been classed as believable.

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"I have been watching The Long Shadow series, so impactful. Perhaps because I can clearly remember how the hunt for Peter Sutcliffe panned out in the media of the day. I clearly recall the march of women wanting to "reclaim the night": the freedom of walking the streets without fear.

Whether the police force were incompetent at the time is immaterial (they fixated on misconceptions that allowed PS to remain at large) is now a moot point, but the way the women who were attacked and survived were treated, was misogyny at its height.

With the police looking internally for criminals in their ranks, sadly it seems that they haven't progressed in the last 40 years.

Interesting that you bring this up,I watched the ripper documentary the other day.

So although I was young during the 70's I clearly remember it.

As I got older it was still massive news.

But until I watched the documentary I'd never really thought about how they dehumanised the victims in the way they did.

Everything was centred around them being pros titute's not human beings with feelings and families and suddenly when a non pros titute gets killed the case take a "sinister turn" like they didn't really care before but they do now.

Not treating the victims as women, shocking.

The incompetence and chauvinistic attitude of the guys in charge just flabbergasted me.

Institutionalised sexism.

Once you see this you suddenly get an understanding how someone like Jimmy Saville was able to get away with what he did.

Ladies coming forward scared to be branded "silly girls" so opted to stay silent.

As much as I'd like to think the "establishment" is making progress in many ways it seems that we are regressing it feels like the 70's again at the moment.

Strike's,cost of living, firms going bust, war's and terrorism.

Sexism, racism, elitism.

It's not a good time at all.

And the younger, less experienced coppers were shouted down if they dared go against the inaccurate profiling.

If this had been a film, it wouldn't have been classed as believable."

Yet by complete contrast I have also just finished watching (I'm off work with a back problem so watching too much telly) back to it, I watched a documentary about the green river killings happened around the same time,the three primary officer's in charge approached the victims with an entirely different attitude treated them as people,women not just treating them as pros titute's.

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By *melie LAL OP   Woman  over a year ago

Peterborough


"I have been watching The Long Shadow series, so impactful. Perhaps because I can clearly remember how the hunt for Peter Sutcliffe panned out in the media of the day. I clearly recall the march of women wanting to "reclaim the night": the freedom of walking the streets without fear.

Whether the police force were incompetent at the time is immaterial (they fixated on misconceptions that allowed PS to remain at large) is now a moot point, but the way the women who were attacked and survived were treated, was misogyny at its height.

With the police looking internally for criminals in their ranks, sadly it seems that they haven't progressed in the last 40 years.

Interesting that you bring this up,I watched the ripper documentary the other day.

So although I was young during the 70's I clearly remember it.

As I got older it was still massive news.

But until I watched the documentary I'd never really thought about how they dehumanised the victims in the way they did.

Everything was centred around them being pros titute's not human beings with feelings and families and suddenly when a non pros titute gets killed the case take a "sinister turn" like they didn't really care before but they do now.

Not treating the victims as women, shocking.

The incompetence and chauvinistic attitude of the guys in charge just flabbergasted me.

Institutionalised sexism.

Once you see this you suddenly get an understanding how someone like Jimmy Saville was able to get away with what he did.

Ladies coming forward scared to be branded "silly girls" so opted to stay silent.

As much as I'd like to think the "establishment" is making progress in many ways it seems that we are regressing it feels like the 70's again at the moment.

Strike's,cost of living, firms going bust, war's and terrorism.

Sexism, racism, elitism.

It's not a good time at all.

And the younger, less experienced coppers were shouted down if they dared go against the inaccurate profiling.

If this had been a film, it wouldn't have been classed as believable.

Yet by complete contrast I have also just finished watching (I'm off work with a back problem so watching too much telly) back to it, I watched a documentary about the green river killings happened around the same time,the three primary officer's in charge approached the victims with an entirely different attitude treated them as people,women not just treating them as pros titute's.

"

American. FBI involvement? Profiling serial killers, properly?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've not seen the documentary but was having a discussion about something similar with a police friend.

The force (esp the MET) is doing a lot of work to flush out bad apples. This is going to mean a load of bad headlines in the short term and that will lead ppl to think the problem is getting worse. The met are worried that this will be pinned to a male chief despite the fact he's cleaning up and the previous chief was female and (arguably) made little effort to resolve.

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By *9alMan  over a year ago

Bridgend

the police seemed more interested in getting sex workers & kerb crawlers off the streets than catching Sutcliffe

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