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By *melie LAL OP Woman
over a year ago
Peterborough |
AI algorithms would explain why claims are largely denied at first stage.
I'm currently watching Sunday with LK about AI. It has opened my eyes as to why claims are not looked at holistically but from a point system. All to save money on admin costs.
The MP denied it was happening cos she spoke to Secretary of state which inc DWP.... But NOT the DWP ??. It was the DWP who raised concerns about the algorithm. Why would she take notice of those minions  |
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By *melie LAL OP Woman
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"AI and algorithms, not set qualifying questions? That is all it will be, if = 0 goto No, if = 1 goto 0
It is so easy to blame technology people don't really understand. "
I, for one, know how algorithms work. It'll be how the qualifying questions are scored. Eg can the person walk without getting breathless? When the question should be "in a week does the person get breathless when walking more than half the week?"
In the first question the answer is yes and scores 0. And yet as the second question shows, has disabilities.
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"AI and algorithms, not set qualifying questions? That is all it will be, if = 0 goto No, if = 1 goto 0
It is so easy to blame technology people don't really understand.
I, for one, know how algorithms work. It'll be how the qualifying questions are scored. Eg can the person walk without getting breathless? When the question should be "in a week does the person get breathless when walking more than half the week?"
In the first question the answer is yes and scores 0. And yet as the second question shows, has disabilities.
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I didn't say you didn't understand, I'm saying it easy to blame technologies on issues, people generally don't understand them.
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"AI and algorithms, not set qualifying questions? That is all it will be, if = 0 goto No, if = 1 goto 0
It is so easy to blame technology people don't really understand.
I, for one, know how algorithms work. It'll be how the qualifying questions are scored. Eg can the person walk without getting breathless? When the question should be "in a week does the person get breathless when walking more than half the week?"
In the first question the answer is yes and scores 0. And yet as the second question shows, has disabilities.
I didn't say you didn't understand, I'm saying it easy to blame technologies on issues, people generally don't understand them.
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You mean like that NHS app from Babylon Health that was promoted by Matt Hancock.
Under investigation by the Sunday Times which was allegedly a glorified spreadsheet.
Cost the NHS millions, now company has gone bankrupt. |
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By *melie LAL OP Woman
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"AI and algorithms, not set qualifying questions? That is all it will be, if = 0 goto No, if = 1 goto 0
It is so easy to blame technology people don't really understand.
I, for one, know how algorithms work. It'll be how the qualifying questions are scored. Eg can the person walk without getting breathless? When the question should be "in a week does the person get breathless when walking more than half the week?"
In the first question the answer is yes and scores 0. And yet as the second question shows, has disabilities.
I didn't say you didn't understand, I'm saying it easy to blame technologies on issues, people generally don't understand them.
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Just a thought, but AI is far more advanced than mere algorithms. Back in 1983/4 I had to write a BASIC computer programme and draw the algorithm for part of my computer studies O-level. Technology is so far advanced from that my qualification isn't worth the paper it's written on.
What we were discussing via algorithms is as simple as that but on the LK programme, it was discussing the frailties of AI, as being discriminatory. |
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By *apybarasCouple
over a year ago
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"AI and algorithms, not set qualifying questions? That is all it will be, if = 0 goto No, if = 1 goto 0
It is so easy to blame technology people don't really understand.
I, for one, know how algorithms work. It'll be how the qualifying questions are scored. Eg can the person walk without getting breathless? When the question should be "in a week does the person get breathless when walking more than half the week?"
In the first question the answer is yes and scores 0. And yet as the second question shows, has disabilities.
I didn't say you didn't understand, I'm saying it easy to blame technologies on issues, people generally don't understand them.
Just a thought, but AI is far more advanced than mere algorithms. Back in 1983/4 I had to write a BASIC computer programme and draw the algorithm for part of my computer studies O-level. Technology is so far advanced from that my qualification isn't worth the paper it's written on.
What we were discussing via algorithms is as simple as that but on the LK programme, it was discussing the frailties of AI, as being discriminatory.
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It's totally dependent on the data used to "teach" the system. You have to come up with a totally un-biased, and accurate set of data. I doubt that exists in the DWP!
It's the reason so many things don't work for all the people they are applied to. Not limited to AI, let's face it, seatbelts, drugs etc. are developed with non-inclusive data meaning they are often not as effective (or dangerous) for anyone who is not an average male.
Facial recognition has been shown to have racial bias etc.
Until we get these issues fixed ML/AI, for this type of application, is going to be a problem from day one of deployment. |
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer."
Good idea.
Also if AI can identify billionaires, multi millionaires, Tories and other tax dodgers when they're avoiding paying.
That'll really made a difference. |
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By *melie LAL OP Woman
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Good idea.
Also if AI can identify billionaires, multi millionaires, Tories and other tax dodgers when they're avoiding paying.
That'll really made a difference. "
I prefer your idea. After-all, the minions have to sign commitments to be looking for work and provide evidence of doing so, which makes AI intervention obsolete in that case. |
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Good idea.
Also if AI can identify billionaires, multi millionaires, Tories and other tax dodgers when they're avoiding paying.
That'll really made a difference.
I prefer your idea. After-all, the minions have to sign commitments to be looking for work and provide evidence of doing so, which makes AI intervention obsolete in that case."
As long as it only identifies TORIES though. We don't want any other party supporting tax dodgers caught up in this. That just wouldn't be fair. |
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By *melie LAL OP Woman
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Good idea.
Also if AI can identify billionaires, multi millionaires, Tories and other tax dodgers when they're avoiding paying.
That'll really made a difference.
I prefer your idea. After-all, the minions have to sign commitments to be looking for work and provide evidence of doing so, which makes AI intervention obsolete in that case.
As long as it only identifies TORIES though. We don't want any other party supporting tax dodgers caught up in this. That just wouldn't be fair. "
I was oblivious that Tories were mentioned  . To be fair, party allegiances are not required. |
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Good idea.
Also if AI can identify billionaires, multi millionaires, Tories and other tax dodgers when they're avoiding paying.
That'll really made a difference.
I prefer your idea. After-all, the minions have to sign commitments to be looking for work and provide evidence of doing so, which makes AI intervention obsolete in that case.
As long as it only identifies TORIES though. We don't want any other party supporting tax dodgers caught up in this. That just wouldn't be fair.
I was oblivious that Tories were mentioned . To be fair, party allegiances are not required."
No, no, no...
It must be Tories only. The rest are sound. |
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By *melie LAL OP Woman
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Good idea.
Also if AI can identify billionaires, multi millionaires, Tories and other tax dodgers when they're avoiding paying.
That'll really made a difference.
I prefer your idea. After-all, the minions have to sign commitments to be looking for work and provide evidence of doing so, which makes AI intervention obsolete in that case.
As long as it only identifies TORIES though. We don't want any other party supporting tax dodgers caught up in this. That just wouldn't be fair.
I was oblivious that Tories were mentioned . To be fair, party allegiances are not required.
No, no, no...
It must be Tories only. The rest are sound. "
Tories and Jummy Carr  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The LIMA software that provides the backbone to the WCA used by the DWP is a known computer fraud in the US & was banned in 15 states there as it was shown as a mechanism to deny Health insurance claims & deny the disabled their entitlements-JUST what is happening in this country with the DWP.
If anyone is interested in reading more look up John Pring & MO STEWARTS work on the WCA & the role it has played in demolishing the our welfare system and the states adherence to a policy and technology that is death by computer for a lot of people. |
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer."
Why is the benefit system ‘a Burden’ with a fraud & error rate of 0.7% despite the introduction of universal credit(fraud & error is actually higher under the UC system than the Legacy systems)?
When £37 billion is claimed fraudulently by the parliamentary VORY overseen Boris Johnson during the Covid era NOT A WORD IS SAID by anyone inside or outside the Parliament Gravy Train but let some poor schmuck claim even a £1 over their allotted pittance then one group are entrepreneurs & the others are ‘Scroungers’ and worse.
The ‘Scroungers’ actually get jobs in Parliament rather than cut it in the real world-see Iain Duncan Smith for the evidence  |
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Good idea.
Also if AI can identify billionaires, multi millionaires, Tories and other tax dodgers when they're avoiding paying.
That'll really made a difference. "
AI will be a digital GULAG for us Peons & they love technology when it oppresses the rest of us. |
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Why is the benefit system ‘a Burden’ with a fraud & error rate of 0.7% despite the introduction of universal credit(fraud & error is actually higher under the UC system than the Legacy systems)?
When £37 billion is claimed fraudulently by the parliamentary VORY overseen Boris Johnson during the Covid era NOT A WORD IS SAID by anyone inside or outside the Parliament Gravy Train but let some poor schmuck claim even a £1 over their allotted pittance then one group are entrepreneurs & the others are ‘Scroungers’ and worse.
The ‘Scroungers’ actually get jobs in Parliament rather than cut it in the real world-see Iain Duncan Smith for the evidence "
I'm a little confused.
You said the software was a known fraud but then said the error rate is 0.7%.
Could you explain please? |
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"AI algorithms would explain why claims are largely denied at first stage.
I'm currently watching Sunday with LK about AI. It has opened my eyes as to why claims are not looked at holistically but from a point system. All to save money on admin costs.
The MP denied it was happening cos she spoke to Secretary of state which inc DWP.... But NOT the DWP ??. It was the DWP who raised concerns about the algorithm. Why would she take notice of those minions "
The general public ceased to be human beings a long time ago we are just cash cow's or a burden.
Simple, regardless of if it's a real person or skynet assessing the situation.
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Why is the benefit system ‘a Burden’ with a fraud & error rate of 0.7% despite the introduction of universal credit(fraud & error is actually higher under the UC system than the Legacy systems)?
When £37 billion is claimed fraudulently by the parliamentary VORY overseen Boris Johnson during the Covid era NOT A WORD IS SAID by anyone inside or outside the Parliament Gravy Train but let some poor schmuck claim even a £1 over their allotted pittance then one group are entrepreneurs & the others are ‘Scroungers’ and worse.
The ‘Scroungers’ actually get jobs in Parliament rather than cut it in the real world-see Iain Duncan Smith for the evidence
I'm a little confused.
You said the software was a known fraud but then said the error rate is 0.7%.
Could you explain please?"
Sorry about the confusion:the LIMA software used in The Work Capability Assessment is fraudulent & even though the DWP created UC to combat fraud and error it is the same or higher than the old system. |
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We've shrunk our state, to such an impossible to work effectively extent over recent years. Investment into AI that's discriminatory and largely not independently verified and accepted, should be regulated for use by official bodies. People need appreciate support, not gamed for exclusion and thrown to the wolves |
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"We've shrunk our state, to such an impossible to work effectively extent over recent years. Investment into AI that's discriminatory and largely not independently verified and accepted, should be regulated for use by official bodies. People need appreciate support, not gamed for exclusion and thrown to the wolves "
“ People need appreciate support, not gamed for exclusion and thrown to the wolves”
THAT is exactly right.  |
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Why is the benefit system ‘a Burden’ with a fraud & error rate of 0.7% despite the introduction of universal credit(fraud & error is actually higher under the UC system than the Legacy systems)?
When £37 billion is claimed fraudulently by the parliamentary VORY overseen Boris Johnson during the Covid era NOT A WORD IS SAID by anyone inside or outside the Parliament Gravy Train but let some poor schmuck claim even a £1 over their allotted pittance then one group are entrepreneurs & the others are ‘Scroungers’ and worse.
The ‘Scroungers’ actually get jobs in Parliament rather than cut it in the real world-see Iain Duncan Smith for the evidence "
Just because the known fraud rate is around 1% doesn't mean its not way higher. The council estate I grew up on everyone was a "single" mom.. The capacity to investigate fraud is just not there and mainly realise on people getting grassed up.. |
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Why is the benefit system ‘a Burden’ with a fraud & error rate of 0.7% despite the introduction of universal credit(fraud & error is actually higher under the UC system than the Legacy systems)?
When £37 billion is claimed fraudulently by the parliamentary VORY overseen Boris Johnson during the Covid era NOT A WORD IS SAID by anyone inside or outside the Parliament Gravy Train but let some poor schmuck claim even a £1 over their allotted pittance then one group are entrepreneurs & the others are ‘Scroungers’ and worse.
The ‘Scroungers’ actually get jobs in Parliament rather than cut it in the real world-see Iain Duncan Smith for the evidence
Just because the known fraud rate is around 1% doesn't mean it’s not way higher. The council estate I grew up on everyone was a "single" mom.. The capacity to investigate fraud is just not there and mainly realise on people getting grassed up.."
The figures on Fraud ARE THEIR OWN STATISTICS but here you are repeating tired old tropes that don’t stand up to any Scrutiny unless bigotry is informed fact?
Why are you apologising for the TORIES?
They rely on people like yourself to echo back their agenda DESPITE them knowing they are spreading lies & disinformation to justify their actions.
WHO as you are no doubt aware are-Ironically-THE biggest fraudsters & parasites and thieves ever?
All they banged on about in 2010 when Tory party was seen as the new broom who were going to eliminate waste  Eliminate FRAUD  end “The Debt” in 5 years by introducing ‘AUSTERITY’ :-
They failed in ALL of their targets:The National debt DOUBLED,the welfare ‘reforms’ were & are a total con as the state has joined with the corporate private sector-Fascism-to use technology to deny entitlements.
If we aren’t entitled to benefits WTF do they continually say we are entitled to them then?
Austerity has been the greatest inside job since The Reformation but according to you it is more important that the single mother in Sheffield should be pilloried & shamed for existing on pittance than the Thatcherite & Neo Liberal SHOWER that put on a spectacle that would make Hollywood blush involving ‘people in boats’,”single mothers”,”The Sick & Disabled””Foreigners” as the root of all of our social evils WHILE THEY LOOT & BLEED US WHITE. |
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Why is the benefit system ‘a Burden’ with a fraud & error rate of 0.7% despite the introduction of universal credit(fraud & error is actually higher under the UC system than the Legacy systems)?
When £37 billion is claimed fraudulently by the parliamentary VORY overseen Boris Johnson during the Covid era NOT A WORD IS SAID by anyone inside or outside the Parliament Gravy Train but let some poor schmuck claim even a £1 over their allotted pittance then one group are entrepreneurs & the others are ‘Scroungers’ and worse.
The ‘Scroungers’ actually get jobs in Parliament rather than cut it in the real world-see Iain Duncan Smith for the evidence
Just because the known fraud rate is around 1% doesn't mean it’s not way higher. The council estate I grew up on everyone was a "single" mom.. The capacity to investigate fraud is just not there and mainly realise on people getting grassed up..
The figures on Fraud ARE THEIR OWN STATISTICS but here you are repeating tired old tropes that don’t stand up to any Scrutiny unless bigotry is informed fact?
Why are you apologising for the TORIES?
They rely on people like yourself to echo back their agenda DESPITE them knowing they are spreading lies & disinformation to justify their actions.
WHO as you are no doubt aware are-Ironically-THE biggest fraudsters & parasites and thieves ever?
All they banged on about in 2010 when Tory party was seen as the new broom who were going to eliminate waste Eliminate FRAUD end “The Debt” in 5 years by introducing ‘AUSTERITY’ :-
They failed in ALL of their targets:The National debt DOUBLED,the welfare ‘reforms’ were & are a total con as the state has joined with the corporate private sector-Fascism-to use technology to deny entitlements.
If we aren’t entitled to benefits WTF do they continually say we are entitled to them then?
Austerity has been the greatest inside job since The Reformation but according to you it is more important that the single mother in Sheffield should be pilloried & shamed for existing on pittance than the Thatcherite & Neo Liberal SHOWER that put on a spectacle that would make Hollywood blush involving ‘people in boats’,”single mothers”,”The Sick & Disabled””Foreigners” as the root of all of our social evils WHILE THEY LOOT & BLEED US WHITE."
I actually thought you were 'clued up' and were interested in informing people. This just proves its no more than a rant. Well done |
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Why is the benefit system ‘a Burden’ with a fraud & error rate of 0.7% despite the introduction of universal credit(fraud & error is actually higher under the UC system than the Legacy systems)?
When £37 billion is claimed fraudulently by the parliamentary VORY overseen Boris Johnson during the Covid era NOT A WORD IS SAID by anyone inside or outside the Parliament Gravy Train but let some poor schmuck claim even a £1 over their allotted pittance then one group are entrepreneurs & the others are ‘Scroungers’ and worse.
The ‘Scroungers’ actually get jobs in Parliament rather than cut it in the real world-see Iain Duncan Smith for the evidence
Just because the known fraud rate is around 1% doesn't mean it’s not way higher. The council estate I grew up on everyone was a "single" mom.. The capacity to investigate fraud is just not there and mainly realise on people getting grassed up..
The figures on Fraud ARE THEIR OWN STATISTICS but here you are repeating tired old tropes that don’t stand up to any Scrutiny unless bigotry is informed fact?
Why are you apologising for the TORIES?
They rely on people like yourself to echo back their agenda DESPITE them knowing they are spreading lies & disinformation to justify their actions.
WHO as you are no doubt aware are-Ironically-THE biggest fraudsters & parasites and thieves ever?
All they banged on about in 2010 when Tory party was seen as the new broom who were going to eliminate waste Eliminate FRAUD end “The Debt” in 5 years by introducing ‘AUSTERITY’ :-
They failed in ALL of their targets:The National debt DOUBLED,the welfare ‘reforms’ were & are a total con as the state has joined with the corporate private sector-Fascism-to use technology to deny entitlements.
If we aren’t entitled to benefits WTF do they continually say we are entitled to them then?
Austerity has been the greatest inside job since The Reformation but according to you it is more important that the single mother in Sheffield should be pilloried & shamed for existing on pittance than the Thatcherite & Neo Liberal SHOWER that put on a spectacle that would make Hollywood blush involving ‘people in boats’,”single mothers”,”The Sick & Disabled””Foreigners” as the root of all of our social evils WHILE THEY LOOT & BLEED US WHITE.
I actually thought you were 'clued up' and were interested in informing people. This just proves its no more than a rant. Well done "
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Why is the benefit system ‘a Burden’ with a fraud & error rate of 0.7% despite the introduction of universal credit(fraud & error is actually higher under the UC system than the Legacy systems)?
When £37 billion is claimed fraudulently by the parliamentary VORY overseen Boris Johnson during the Covid era NOT A WORD IS SAID by anyone inside or outside the Parliament Gravy Train but let some poor schmuck claim even a £1 over their allotted pittance then one group are entrepreneurs & the others are ‘Scroungers’ and worse.
The ‘Scroungers’ actually get jobs in Parliament rather than cut it in the real world-see Iain Duncan Smith for the evidence
Just because the known fraud rate is around 1% doesn't mean it’s not way higher. The council estate I grew up on everyone was a "single" mom.. The capacity to investigate fraud is just not there and mainly realise on people getting grassed up..
The figures on Fraud ARE THEIR OWN STATISTICS but here you are repeating tired old tropes that don’t stand up to any Scrutiny unless bigotry is informed fact?
Why are you apologising for the TORIES?
They rely on people like yourself to echo back their agenda DESPITE them knowing they are spreading lies & disinformation to justify their actions.
WHO as you are no doubt aware are-Ironically-THE biggest fraudsters & parasites and thieves ever?
All they banged on about in 2010 when Tory party was seen as the new broom who were going to eliminate waste Eliminate FRAUD end “The Debt” in 5 years by introducing ‘AUSTERITY’ :-
They failed in ALL of their targets:The National debt DOUBLED,the welfare ‘reforms’ were & are a total con as the state has joined with the corporate private sector-Fascism-to use technology to deny entitlements.
If we aren’t entitled to benefits WTF do they continually say we are entitled to them then?
Austerity has been the greatest inside job since The Reformation but according to you it is more important that the single mother in Sheffield should be pilloried & shamed for existing on pittance than the Thatcherite & Neo Liberal SHOWER that put on a spectacle that would make Hollywood blush involving ‘people in boats’,”single mothers”,”The Sick & Disabled””Foreigners” as the root of all of our social evils WHILE THEY LOOT & BLEED US WHITE."
The Nazis weren't the first to master propaganda and definitely not the last, as we see it so blatantly imposed on us in the UK. It's tragic that people who are the targets to be forced to get closer to destitution by the government and billionaire right wing media, are the ones who unthinkingly buy into it, as their puppets.   |
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"Maybe AI could be used to match the unemployed with open job vacancies? Imagine how that would reduce the benefits burden on the taxpayer.
Why is the benefit system ‘a Burden’ with a fraud & error rate of 0.7% despite the introduction of universal credit(fraud & error is actually higher under the UC system than the Legacy systems)?
When £37 billion is claimed fraudulently by the parliamentary VORY overseen Boris Johnson during the Covid era NOT A WORD IS SAID by anyone inside or outside the Parliament Gravy Train but let some poor schmuck claim even a £1 over their allotted pittance then one group are entrepreneurs & the others are ‘Scroungers’ and worse.
The ‘Scroungers’ actually get jobs in Parliament rather than cut it in the real world-see Iain Duncan Smith for the evidence
Just because the known fraud rate is around 1% doesn't mean it’s not way higher. The council estate I grew up on everyone was a "single" mom.. The capacity to investigate fraud is just not there and mainly realise on people getting grassed up..
The figures on Fraud ARE THEIR OWN STATISTICS but here you are repeating tired old tropes that don’t stand up to any Scrutiny unless bigotry is informed fact?
Why are you apologising for the TORIES?
They rely on people like yourself to echo back their agenda DESPITE them knowing they are spreading lies & disinformation to justify their actions.
WHO as you are no doubt aware are-Ironically-THE biggest fraudsters & parasites and thieves ever?
All they banged on about in 2010 when Tory party was seen as the new broom who were going to eliminate waste Eliminate FRAUD end “The Debt” in 5 years by introducing ‘AUSTERITY’ :-
They failed in ALL of their targets:The National debt DOUBLED,the welfare ‘reforms’ were & are a total con as the state has joined with the corporate private sector-Fascism-to use technology to deny entitlements.
If we aren’t entitled to benefits WTF do they continually say we are entitled to them then?
Austerity has been the greatest inside job since The Reformation but according to you it is more important that the single mother in Sheffield should be pilloried & shamed for existing on pittance than the Thatcherite & Neo Liberal SHOWER that put on a spectacle that would make Hollywood blush involving ‘people in boats’,”single mothers”,”The Sick & Disabled””Foreigners” as the root of all of our social evils WHILE THEY LOOT & BLEED US WHITE.
The Nazis weren't the first to master propaganda and definitely not the last, as we see it so blatantly imposed on us in the UK. It's tragic that people who are the targets to be forced to get closer to destitution by the government and billionaire right wing media, are the ones who unthinkingly buy into it, as their puppets. "
I don’t understand the British Voter:it seems impossible to wean them off of the The Masochistic Stockholm Syndrome KOOL-AID that allows the very people who are responsible for the society they live in & the cause of every shit thing that has happened since 1979 to flourish & thrive in a fecal quicksand of mutual destruction. |
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