When police is independent, judiciary is independent, Bank of England is independent, military is independent, HMRC is independent - why the fuck we vote for politicians?? What are they good for?? Are we really wasting our votes?? Are they only good to spread misery in the British society??
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I vote because politicians are supposed to be our representatives in government. The MP for your area will have an office, an email address and probably social media through which they can be contacted. Unless it was Nadine Dorries of course.  .
If enough of their constituents contact them on s certain subject they'll bring it up in the House of Commons or if an individual case is something they feel they can help with they'll take action.
Of course politicians and government have other roles too. |
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"When police is independent, judiciary is independent, Bank of England is independent, military is independent, HMRC is independent - why the fuck we vote for politicians?? What are they good for?? Are we really wasting our votes?? Are they only good to spread misery in the British society??
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They are not really independent tho are they.
It's just something tagged onto an organisation to placate the moaners and the militant anti establishment brigade.
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"When police is independent, judiciary is independent, Bank of England is independent, military is independent, HMRC is independent - why the fuck we vote for politicians?? What are they good for?? Are we really wasting our votes?? Are they only good to spread misery in the British society??
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Hmmm
The police are federated in the UK but have to act within the laws, legislation and guidelines provided by the Govt of the day via Parliament.
The BoE is supposedly independent but must certainly come under pressure from the Govt.
The judiciary is necessarily independent and is one of the three pillars of a democratic society with the Legislature (both houses of Parliament) and the Executive (Govt of the day) making up the other two.
The military most certainly isn’t nor should be independent of Govt control.
Where do you get the idea HMRC is independent? They are one of the major Govt Depts that allows the country to function. |
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Yes, the agencies you mention are independent of government, and a good thing too. But parliament makes policy and laws, the agencies just implement and enforce them. MPs are accountable to us via elections, agencies are not. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Yes, the agencies you mention are independent of government, and a good thing too. But parliament makes policy and laws, the agencies just implement and enforce them. MPs are accountable to us via elections, agencies are not. "
We better define “independence” as this conversation may end up being about semantics. |
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"Yes, the agencies you mention are independent of government, and a good thing too. But parliament makes policy and laws, the agencies just implement and enforce them. MPs are accountable to us via elections, agencies are not.
We better define “independence” as this conversation may end up being about semantics."
The military, judges and police swear allegiance to the Crown. The BoE makes it's own decisions. HMRC gather taxes laid down by law. But yes, politicians do control and influence them all - they are our elected representatives after all. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Yes, the agencies you mention are independent of government, and a good thing too. But parliament makes policy and laws, the agencies just implement and enforce them. MPs are accountable to us via elections, agencies are not.
We better define “independence” as this conversation may end up being about semantics.
The military, judges and police swear allegiance to the Crown. The BoE makes it's own decisions. HMRC gather taxes laid down by law. But yes, politicians do control and influence them all - they are our elected representatives after all."
Totally tangential thought...Wonder what would happen were King Charles decide to try and shut down Parliament and seize power for himself/the crown? Who would the military and police be loyal to? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes, the agencies you mention are independent of government, and a good thing too. But parliament makes policy and laws, the agencies just implement and enforce them. MPs are accountable to us via elections, agencies are not.
We better define “independence” as this conversation may end up being about semantics.
The military, judges and police swear allegiance to the Crown. The BoE makes it's own decisions. HMRC gather taxes laid down by law. But yes, politicians do control and influence them all - they are our elected representatives after all.
Totally tangential thought...Wonder what would happen were King Charles decide to try and shut down Parliament and seize power for himself/the crown? Who would the military and police be loyal to?"
The King, they swear an oath
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
Eastleigh |
Some need to check up on how the military is controlled and by whom.
You've all heard the phrase 'the goverment has requested the assistance of the armed forces' The military is very independant of the goverment, though since 2011 ministers are consulted on its use. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When police is independent, judiciary is independent, Bank of England is independent, military is independent, HMRC is independent - why the fuck we vote for politicians?? What are they good for?? Are we really wasting our votes?? Are they only good to spread misery in the British society??
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Independent? Are you having a laugh? There's a reason the crown symbol is on all of those institutions you reference. It's the clue as to who's interests they really serve... None of them swear allegiance to the people of this country, and in many cases they don't even ally to the country, its the Crown that takes priority. When you understand that then you'll see politics for the puppet show that it is.  |
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