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"I can imagine an SNP mp leaving for labour.. or the Lib Dem’s…. But the Tories!!! " . The last three election results simply prove how popular to Conservative party are . She has simply seen common sense and her views align with the party which gained an 80 seat majority in the last election. | |||
"I can imagine an SNP mp leaving for labour.. or the Lib Dem’s…. But the Tories!!! . The last three election results simply prove how popular to Conservative party are . She has simply seen common sense and her views align with the party which gained an 80 seat majority in the last election. " Yeah she wants a slice of that cash from the oil companies for her next election campaign. | |||
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"I can imagine an SNP mp leaving for labour.. or the Lib Dem’s…. But the Tories!!! . The last three election results simply prove how popular to Conservative party are . She has simply seen common sense and her views align with the party which gained an 80 seat majority in the last election. " She was sick of the corruption and dirty trick the SNP were apparently involved with and then looked at the Tories who said “hold my beer” and she thought “now that’s how to do it, I’m having some of that!” | |||
"I can imagine an SNP mp leaving for labour.. or the Lib Dem’s…. But the Tories!!! " I was similar in that I'm not surprised an SNP politician is defecting but I was thinking Labour would be more aligned with her way of thinking | |||
"I can imagine an SNP mp leaving for labour.. or the Lib Dem’s…. But the Tories!!! . The last three election results simply prove how popular to Conservative party are . She has simply seen common sense and her views align with the party which gained an 80 seat majority in the last election. She was sick of the corruption and dirty trick the SNP were apparently involved with and then looked at the Tories who said “hold my beer” and she thought “now that’s how to do it, I’m having some of that!”"  | |||
"I can imagine an SNP mp leaving for labour.. or the Lib Dem’s…. But the Tories!!! . The last three election results simply prove how popular to Conservative party are . She has simply seen common sense and her views align with the party which gained an 80 seat majority in the last election. " Change the record. | |||
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"I can imagine an SNP mp leaving for labour.. or the Lib Dem’s…. But the Tories!!! I was similar in that I'm not surprised an SNP politician is defecting but I was thinking Labour would be more aligned with her way of thinking" SNP appear to be a mixed bag from all sides, but with a common interest in independence. Suprised a independent has jumped to unionist, but that would have been the case with labour. | |||
"I can imagine an SNP mp leaving for labour.. or the Lib Dem’s…. But the Tories!!! I was similar in that I'm not surprised an SNP politician is defecting but I was thinking Labour would be more aligned with her way of thinkingSNP appear to be a mixed bag from all sides, but with a common interest in independence. Suprised a independent has jumped to unionist, but that would have been the case with labour. " | |||
"I can imagine an SNP mp leaving for labour.. or the Lib Dem’s…. But the Tories!!! I was similar in that I'm not surprised an SNP politician is defecting but I was thinking Labour would be more aligned with her way of thinkingSNP appear to be a mixed bag from all sides, but with a common interest in independence. Suprised a independent has jumped to unionist, but that would have been the case with labour. " Im not 100%but i think she will fight the same seat as a tory and she will have no chance of re-election | |||
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"I would be fuming if the MP I voted for changed to another party mid term , I realise that in the first past the post system they say that we vote for the local MP and not The Political Party ,, but do we really ? ... I certainly do not" So you're saying that you know what the rules are, and that you choose not to follow those rules, but that you'd be angry if someone chose to use one of the rules you don't like? "Take the example mentioned by The OP , the SNP MP could remain at Westminster as a SNP MP but vote along with the Conservative party ." She isn't an SNP MP any more. She's now a Tory MP. The SNP recommended her at the last election, they don't own her. | |||
"I would be fuming if the MP I voted for changed to another party mid term , I realise that in the first past the post system they say that we vote for the local MP and not The Political Party ,, but do we really ? ... I certainly do not So you're saying that you know what the rules are, and that you choose not to follow those rules, but that you'd be angry if someone chose to use one of the rules you don't like? Take the example mentioned by The OP , the SNP MP could remain at Westminster as a SNP MP but vote along with the Conservative party . She isn't an SNP MP any more. She's now a Tory MP. The SNP recommended her at the last election, they don't own her." ,, ,,,,,, to answer both at the same time , yes I know what they say the rules are , which I pointed out , the point I am making is that I do not think many people turn up at the voting booth with the intention of voting for their candidate they vote for the party , so as I also pointed out that with our FPTP system there isnt a way round it , so yes I would be angry , would have to accept the consequences as these are the rules but would feel cheated ,,at the last General Election the vote in this particular constituency was SNP 26,113. . Labour 12,791 Con 11,961 LDem 3,670. ScotGreen 1,153 ukip 559. So the "person" the electorate voted for remains the MP for the area whereas the "Party" that won the seat now has one less representative in Parliament , The party which came 3rd with 21.2% of the vote has now "won" .a result someone like Putin would love and we would criticise him for , because the OP raised the issue of the SNP MP crossing the floor to the tories , there is a danger of this discussion becoming party political but the tories suffered the same when they won Bury South but now have a sitting Labour MP , this is equally as wrong , but once again Bury South voted for Christian Wakeford and not tory .. There is nothing people in Bury can do about this they voted tory and got Labour , , the point that the SNP do not own her is again valid but both Lisa Cameron and Christian Wakeford both "own" votes from constituents who voted , not only for another party but for another candidate ,, so yes would continue to be angry , the system is wrong and flawed | |||
"I can imagine an SNP mp leaving for labour.. or the Lib Dem’s…. But the Tories!!! " Probably has some mates who want a lucrative government procurement contract. | |||
"I can imagine an SNP mp leaving for labour.. or the Lib Dem’s…. But the Tories!!! Probably has some mates who want a lucrative government procurement contract. "  | |||
"I would be fuming if the MP I voted for changed to another party mid term , I realise that in the first past the post system they say that we vote for the local MP and not The Political Party ,, but do we really ? ... I certainly do not So you're saying that you know what the rules are, and that you choose not to follow those rules, but that you'd be angry if someone chose to use one of the rules you don't like? Take the example mentioned by The OP , the SNP MP could remain at Westminster as a SNP MP but vote along with the Conservative party . She isn't an SNP MP any more. She's now a Tory MP. The SNP recommended her at the last election, they don't own her. ,, ,,,,,, to answer both at the same time , yes I know what they say the rules are , which I pointed out , the point I am making is that I do not think many people turn up at the voting booth with the intention of voting for their candidate they vote for the party , so as I also pointed out that with our FPTP system there isnt a way round it , so yes I would be angry , would have to accept the consequences as these are the rules but would feel cheated ,,at the last General Election the vote in this particular constituency was SNP 26,113. . Labour 12,791 Con 11,961 LDem 3,670. ScotGreen 1,153 ukip 559. So the "person" the electorate voted for remains the MP for the area whereas the "Party" that won the seat now has one less representative in Parliament , The party which came 3rd with 21.2% of the vote has now "won" .a result someone like Putin would love and we would criticise him for , because the OP raised the issue of the SNP MP crossing the floor to the tories , there is a danger of this discussion becoming party political but the tories suffered the same when they won Bury South but now have a sitting Labour MP , this is equally as wrong , but once again Bury South voted for Christian Wakeford and not tory .. There is nothing people in Bury can do about this they voted tory and got Labour , , the point that the SNP do not own her is again valid but both Lisa Cameron and Christian Wakeford both "own" votes from constituents who voted , not only for another party but for another candidate ,, so yes would continue to be angry , the system is wrong and flawed " I wasn't aware of this. I assumed you voted the party in via it's representative. To my mind the system needs changing - if an MP switches party, there should automatically be a local election. | |||
"I would be fuming if the MP I voted for changed to another party mid term , I realise that in the first past the post system they say that we vote for the local MP and not The Political Party ,, but do we really ? ... I certainly do not So you're saying that you know what the rules are, and that you choose not to follow those rules, but that you'd be angry if someone chose to use one of the rules you don't like? Take the example mentioned by The OP , the SNP MP could remain at Westminster as a SNP MP but vote along with the Conservative party . She isn't an SNP MP any more. She's now a Tory MP. The SNP recommended her at the last election, they don't own her. ,, ,,,,,, to answer both at the same time , yes I know what they say the rules are , which I pointed out , the point I am making is that I do not think many people turn up at the voting booth with the intention of voting for their candidate they vote for the party , so as I also pointed out that with our FPTP system there isnt a way round it , so yes I would be angry , would have to accept the consequences as these are the rules but would feel cheated ,,at the last General Election the vote in this particular constituency was SNP 26,113. . Labour 12,791 Con 11,961 LDem 3,670. ScotGreen 1,153 ukip 559. So the "person" the electorate voted for remains the MP for the area whereas the "Party" that won the seat now has one less representative in Parliament , The party which came 3rd with 21.2% of the vote has now "won" .a result someone like Putin would love and we would criticise him for , because the OP raised the issue of the SNP MP crossing the floor to the tories , there is a danger of this discussion becoming party political but the tories suffered the same when they won Bury South but now have a sitting Labour MP , this is equally as wrong , but once again Bury South voted for Christian Wakeford and not tory .. There is nothing people in Bury can do about this they voted tory and got Labour , , the point that the SNP do not own her is again valid but both Lisa Cameron and Christian Wakeford both "own" votes from constituents who voted , not only for another party but for another candidate ,, so yes would continue to be angry , the system is wrong and flawed I wasn't aware of this. I assumed you voted the party in via it's representative. To my mind the system needs changing - if an MP switches party, there should automatically be a local election." Absolutely | |||
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"According to the BBC she and her family have been forced into hiding following serious threats. I can understand the SNP and their followers being annoyed but this behaviour is crazy. " and is there any evidence of this? | |||
"According to the BBC she and her family have been forced into hiding following serious threats. I can understand the SNP and their followers being annoyed but this behaviour is crazy. and is there any evidence of this?" Apart from the BBC where I originally saw it on the text news it is also being reported by the Scottish Herald, the daily record, and the standard amongst others. | |||
"Wasn't going to get selected as an SNP candidate for the next GE. Her reasons for defecting are quite damning. " ... Her reasons are very damming and serious and require full investigation by The SNP She complains of bullying ,,,,, and has left The SNP , to hold hands with Priti Patel , Sir Gavin Williamson and Dominic Raab (good luck with that then ) | |||
"According to the BBC she and her family have been forced into hiding following serious threats. I can understand the SNP and their followers being annoyed but this behaviour is crazy. and is there any evidence of this? Apart from the BBC where I originally saw it on the text news it is also being reported by the Scottish Herald, the daily record, and the standard amongst others. " As a scot i wouldnt even wipe my arse with the herald or record, but i was asking for evidence ? Not what was reported in papers,so any real evidence? | |||
"According to the BBC she and her family have been forced into hiding following serious threats. I can understand the SNP and their followers being annoyed but this behaviour is crazy. and is there any evidence of this? Apart from the BBC where I originally saw it on the text news it is also being reported by the Scottish Herald, the daily record, and the standard amongst others. As a scot i wouldnt even wipe my arse with the herald or record, but i was asking for evidence ? Not what was reported in papers,so any real evidence?" I'm not familiar with these papers but judging from your response they are not the best. I am saying what various news outlets have reported so it's for them to know if the story is correct or not, I am mearly saying what they report. I also do not have evidence of the articles being false either | |||
"According to the BBC she and her family have been forced into hiding following serious threats. I can understand the SNP and their followers being annoyed but this behaviour is crazy. and is there any evidence of this? Apart from the BBC where I originally saw it on the text news it is also being reported by the Scottish Herald, the daily record, and the standard amongst others. As a scot i wouldnt even wipe my arse with the herald or record, but i was asking for evidence ? Not what was reported in papers,so any real evidence? I'm not familiar with these papers but judging from your response they are not the best. I am saying what various news outlets have reported so it's for them to know if the story is correct or not, I am mearly saying what they report. I also do not have evidence of the articles being false either" Thats fair enough commenting on what you heard and read ,il beleive it when i see evidence ,also if you were being bullied and theatened by snp supporters surely you would resign the seat you won because of snp supporters | |||
"According to the BBC she and her family have been forced into hiding following serious threats. I can understand the SNP and their followers being annoyed but this behaviour is crazy. and is there any evidence of this? Apart from the BBC where I originally saw it on the text news it is also being reported by the Scottish Herald, the daily record, and the standard amongst others. As a scot i wouldnt even wipe my arse with the herald or record, but i was asking for evidence ? Not what was reported in papers,so any real evidence? I'm not familiar with these papers but judging from your response they are not the best. I am saying what various news outlets have reported so it's for them to know if the story is correct or not, I am mearly saying what they report. I also do not have evidence of the articles being false either Thats fair enough commenting on what you heard and read ,il beleive it when i see evidence ,also if you were being bullied and theatened by snp supporters surely you would resign the seat you won because of snp supporters" I suppose we are all different but if I wanted to cause maximum effect on the SNP for bullying me I would do as she has done and join the party they detest the most. If she resigns it does not have the same impact. I would like to add that I think MP's should not be allowed to switch parties mid term. | |||
"Wasn't going to get selected as an SNP candidate for the next GE. Her reasons for defecting are quite damning. ... Her reasons are very damming and serious and require full investigation by The SNP She complains of bullying ,,,,, and has left The SNP , to hold hands with Priti Patel , Sir Gavin Williamson and Dominic Raab (good luck with that then ) " ,,,,, ,,,,,, ,,,,,, And Peter Bone  | |||
"According to the BBC she and her family have been forced into hiding following serious threats. I can understand the SNP and their followers being annoyed but this behaviour is crazy. and is there any evidence of this? Apart from the BBC where I originally saw it on the text news it is also being reported by the Scottish Herald, the daily record, and the standard amongst others. As a scot i wouldnt even wipe my arse with the herald or record, but i was asking for evidence ? Not what was reported in papers,so any real evidence? I'm not familiar with these papers but judging from your response they are not the best. I am saying what various news outlets have reported so it's for them to know if the story is correct or not, I am mearly saying what they report. I also do not have evidence of the articles being false either Thats fair enough commenting on what you heard and read ,il beleive it when i see evidence ,also if you were being bullied and theatened by snp supporters surely you would resign the seat you won because of snp supporters I suppose we are all different but if I wanted to cause maximum effect on the SNP for bullying me I would do as she has done and join the party they detest the most. If she resigns it does not have the same impact. I would like to add that I think MP's should not be allowed to switch parties mid term. " Theres an adudio tape of her at a local hustings less than 2 weeks ago slaughtering the tories for austerity and brexit and she also said independence is the only way scotland can get rid of westminister,not a word abot bullying ect,i heard its getting uploaled to youtube so can get it there | |||
"According to the BBC she and her family have been forced into hiding following serious threats. I can understand the SNP and their followers being annoyed but this behaviour is crazy. and is there any evidence of this? Apart from the BBC where I originally saw it on the text news it is also being reported by the Scottish Herald, the daily record, and the standard amongst others. As a scot i wouldnt even wipe my arse with the herald or record, but i was asking for evidence ? Not what was reported in papers,so any real evidence? I'm not familiar with these papers but judging from your response they are not the best. I am saying what various news outlets have reported so it's for them to know if the story is correct or not, I am mearly saying what they report. I also do not have evidence of the articles being false either Thats fair enough commenting on what you heard and read ,il beleive it when i see evidence ,also if you were being bullied and theatened by snp supporters surely you would resign the seat you won because of snp supporters I suppose we are all different but if I wanted to cause maximum effect on the SNP for bullying me I would do as she has done and join the party they detest the most. If she resigns it does not have the same impact. I would like to add that I think MP's should not be allowed to switch parties mid term. Theres an adudio tape of her at a local hustings less than 2 weeks ago slaughtering the tories for austerity and brexit and she also said independence is the only way scotland can get rid of westminister,not a word abot bullying ect,i heard its getting uploaled to youtube so can get it there" So another MP turns out to be dishonest in her statements of austerity and independence and then deserts one lot for another lot. not the most shocking news. Only difference is we are more used to Tories being caught out like this as opposed to SNP members | |||
"According to the BBC she and her family have been forced into hiding following serious threats. I can understand the SNP and their followers being annoyed but this behaviour is crazy. and is there any evidence of this? Apart from the BBC where I originally saw it on the text news it is also being reported by the Scottish Herald, the daily record, and the standard amongst others. As a scot i wouldnt even wipe my arse with the herald or record, but i was asking for evidence ? Not what was reported in papers,so any real evidence? I'm not familiar with these papers but judging from your response they are not the best. I am saying what various news outlets have reported so it's for them to know if the story is correct or not, I am mearly saying what they report. I also do not have evidence of the articles being false either Thats fair enough commenting on what you heard and read ,il beleive it when i see evidence ,also if you were being bullied and theatened by snp supporters surely you would resign the seat you won because of snp supporters I suppose we are all different but if I wanted to cause maximum effect on the SNP for bullying me I would do as she has done and join the party they detest the most. If she resigns it does not have the same impact. I would like to add that I think MP's should not be allowed to switch parties mid term. Theres an adudio tape of her at a local hustings less than 2 weeks ago slaughtering the tories for austerity and brexit and she also said independence is the only way scotland can get rid of westminister,not a word abot bullying ect,i heard its getting uploaled to youtube so can get it there So another MP turns out to be dishonest in her statements of austerity and independence and then deserts one lot for another lot. not the most shocking news. Only difference is we are more used to Tories being caught out like this as opposed to SNP members " But only 2 weeks ago she was slaughtering the tories ,then when told she wont stand for re -election she pulls the bullied card lol, better of without her in thr party | |||
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"According to the BBC she and her family have been forced into hiding following serious threats. I can understand the SNP and their followers being annoyed but this behaviour is crazy. and is there any evidence of this? Apart from the BBC where I originally saw it on the text news it is also being reported by the Scottish Herald, the daily record, and the standard amongst others. As a scot i wouldnt even wipe my arse with the herald or record, but i was asking for evidence ? Not what was reported in papers,so any real evidence? I'm not familiar with these papers but judging from your response they are not the best. I am saying what various news outlets have reported so it's for them to know if the story is correct or not, I am mearly saying what they report. I also do not have evidence of the articles being false either Thats fair enough commenting on what you heard and read ,il beleive it when i see evidence ,also if you were being bullied and theatened by snp supporters surely you would resign the seat you won because of snp supporters I suppose we are all different but if I wanted to cause maximum effect on the SNP for bullying me I would do as she has done and join the party they detest the most. If she resigns it does not have the same impact. I would like to add that I think MP's should not be allowed to switch parties mid term. Theres an adudio tape of her at a local hustings less than 2 weeks ago slaughtering the tories for austerity and brexit and she also said independence is the only way scotland can get rid of westminister,not a word abot bullying ect,i heard its getting uploaled to youtube so can get it there So another MP turns out to be dishonest in her statements of austerity and independence and then deserts one lot for another lot. not the most shocking news. Only difference is we are more used to Tories being caught out like this as opposed to SNP members But only 2 weeks ago she was slaughtering the tories ,then when told she wont stand for re -election she pulls the bullied card lol, better of without her in thr party" That's why I started by saying another MP turns out to be dishonest. We have sadly grown used to it from several parties | |||
"Is the area where she acts as an MP changing politically ? Was it marginally stronger SNP area, but projections show it moving to Cons ? If so, I could easily understand a career-politician making the jump. A conviction-politician less so of course. Career-politicians want to stay employed and active at all costs, I suppose." No, East Kilbride will never vote in the tories! | |||
