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By *orleyman OP   Man  over a year ago

Leeds

Well well well

Another nail in the coffin of renewables being cheap.

We had a thread that went into great detail about how bidding worked on renewables.

A certain asylum person denounced that green energy was costly and that the costs were cheaper than gas.

I warned about inflation and that certainly costs weren't taken I to account.

The government's newest round of bidding for green energy at a set priced attracted.....ZERO bids.

Sadly people didn't listen because....blah blah Tufton street stooges.

Well. Sadly uk green energy is going to have to get a LOT more expensive to become viable for big companies.

the government increased the payment amount t to these companies by 16%.

And it wasn't enough.

Remember these costs exclude green subsidies. Maintenance of the grid,laying the connectors.

But we are meant to believe that green is cheaper.

I dont think so.

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!"

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!"

And they will be happy to sell it to the UK

All old mine sites could be converted in to wind farms on land.

Any industrial site that is abandoned could be re purposed.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan  over a year ago

Gilfach


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!"


"And they will be happy to sell it to the UK"

No they won't. They need it all to generate electricity, having closed down all of their nuclear reactors for environmental reasons.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win. "

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

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By *erry bull1Man  over a year ago

doncaster

We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths "

Not sure about that, technology is moving at a fair old rate, I’m starting to think EV’s are the Betamax of transport

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths "

Sadly the government is woefully behind and isn't pushing green energy at all.

Also, electric cars have nothing to do with green energy.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy"

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths

Sadly the government is woefully behind and isn't pushing green energy at all.

Also, electric cars have nothing to do with green energy. "

He didn’t say EV’s were green energy, he said we are going to need more / new power stations to provide power to the EV’s.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths

Sadly the government is woefully behind and isn't pushing green energy at all.

Also, electric cars have nothing to do with green energy.

He didn’t say EV’s were green energy, he said we are going to need more / new power stations to provide power to the EV’s."

Is that true? Is there any evidence that the national grid is struggling?

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together. "

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?

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By *irldnCouple  over a year ago

Brighton


"We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths

Not sure about that, technology is moving at a fair old rate, I’m starting to think EV’s are the Betamax of transport "

You probably know this but Betamax was far far superior to VHS but the tapes cost a little more so video shops like blockbuster didn’t want to stock them and so the film industry didn’t want to use them and so as a home format it died. Instead, because the quality was so good it evolved into Betacam which was a professional format used for making TV shows.

As this is a swinger forum the other reason was that porn companies were cheapskates and refused to put their films onto Betamax so VHS won the day!

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths

Sadly the government is woefully behind and isn't pushing green energy at all.

Also, electric cars have nothing to do with green energy.

He didn’t say EV’s were green energy, he said we are going to need more / new power stations to provide power to the EV’s.

Is that true? Is there any evidence that the national grid is struggling?"

Let’s say it isn’t true, for a moment. How would we produce enough renewable energy to charge all of the EV’s in 2035 onwards?

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths

Not sure about that, technology is moving at a fair old rate, I’m starting to think EV’s are the Betamax of transport

You probably know this but Betamax was far far superior to VHS but the tapes cost a little more so video shops like blockbuster didn’t want to stock them and so the film industry didn’t want to use them and so as a home format it died. Instead, because the quality was so good it evolved into Betacam which was a professional format used for making TV shows.

As this is a swinger forum the other reason was that porn companies were cheapskates and refused to put their films onto Betamax so VHS won the day!"

For sure, but that isn’t how things become mainstream….cheap and popular wins the day.

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

And they will be happy to sell it to the UK

No they won't. They need it all to generate electricity, having closed down all of their nuclear reactors for environmental reasons."

Hang on, you are saying in Germany they closed their nuclear power stations for environmental reasons and are now knocking down wind turbines in order to get at coal because they need to produce more power? Has Germany gone into reverse or something.

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By *melie LALWoman  over a year ago

Peterborough


"We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths

Sadly the government is woefully behind and isn't pushing green energy at all.

Also, electric cars have nothing to do with green energy.

He didn’t say EV’s were green energy, he said we are going to need more / new power stations to provide power to the EV’s.

Is that true? Is there any evidence that the national grid is struggling?

Let’s say it isn’t true, for a moment. How would we produce enough renewable energy to charge all of the EV’s in 2035 onwards?"

Not all, there'll be a percentage that are self charging.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths

Sadly the government is woefully behind and isn't pushing green energy at all.

Also, electric cars have nothing to do with green energy.

He didn’t say EV’s were green energy, he said we are going to need more / new power stations to provide power to the EV’s.

Is that true? Is there any evidence that the national grid is struggling?

Let’s say it isn’t true, for a moment. How would we produce enough renewable energy to charge all of the EV’s in 2035 onwards?

Not all, there'll be a percentage that are self charging. "

Range, popularity and price? It must meet the cheap and popular, but also provide a valid application

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By *irldnCouple  over a year ago

Brighton


"Range, popularity and price? It must meet the cheap and popular, but also provide a valid application"

I think Fab should branch out and launch a car powered by hot air. There are a few regulars on here (yes including me) who could power an F1 version

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?"

Not sure what "game" this is. I answered your question directly.

To answer your question, there is a good website which shows the energy sources for the national grid. Google "national grid energy sources", click on "year" for a good indication of where our energy comes from.

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By *ired_upMan  over a year ago

ashton


"Well well well

Another nail in the coffin of renewables being cheap.

We had a thread that went into great detail about how bidding worked on renewables.

A certain asylum person denounced that green energy was costly and that the costs were cheaper than gas.

I warned about inflation and that certainly costs weren't taken I to account.

The government's newest round of bidding for green energy at a set priced attracted.....ZERO bids.

Sadly people didn't listen because....blah blah Tufton street stooges.

Well. Sadly uk green energy is going to have to get a LOT more expensive to become viable for big companies.

the government increased the payment amount t to these companies by 16%.

And it wasn't enough.

Remember these costs exclude green subsidies. Maintenance of the grid,laying the connectors.

But we are meant to believe that green is cheaper.

I dont think so.

"

Could you quote the price for this auction and the price given for new nuclear stations so we have some comparable figures.

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

I've also heard that the reason that we didn't rejoin Euratom, was that our scientists didn't want to share our advances on nuclear fusion, with the rest of Europe.

Hopefully, we'll be seeing some of the Rolls Royce mini-reactors before too long. Could be a game changer.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Range, popularity and price? It must meet the cheap and popular, but also provide a valid application

I think Fab should branch out and launch a car powered by hot air. There are a few regulars on here (yes including me) who could power an F1 version "

I’m not sure about that, it takes precision and a steely determination to succeed in F1.

I feel many here would wilt or protest at such focus.

I would imagine a fab political forum powered car would never leave the paddock

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan  over a year ago

Gilfach


"You probably know this but Betamax was far far superior to VHS but the tapes cost a little more so video shops like blockbuster didn’t want to stock them and so the film industry didn’t want to use them and so as a home format it died. Instead, because the quality was so good it evolved into Betacam which was a professional format used for making TV shows."

That's not true. Betamax was very similar to VHS, with the big disadvantage that the tapes only lasted for 1 hour. That made them useless for movies. Sony soon came out with a half-speed play option that allowed a movie length tape, but the quality suffered.

Betacam was indeed used for broadcast TV, but that's because it was a completely different format. The only thing it shares with Betamax is the tape and half of the name.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I've also heard that the reason that we didn't rejoin Euratom, was that our scientists didn't want to share our advances on nuclear fusion, with the rest of Europe.

Hopefully, we'll be seeing some of the Rolls Royce mini-reactors before too long. Could be a game changer."

This would and is a game changer, great calla

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?

Not sure what "game" this is. I answered your question directly.

To answer your question, there is a good website which shows the energy sources for the national grid. Google "national grid energy sources", click on "year" for a good indication of where our energy comes from. "

I was expecting you to know such things and be able to converse, without me digging through a minefield of information to justify your claims.

I have no crystal ball, but I think you say you don’t understand?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?

Not sure what "game" this is. I answered your question directly.

To answer your question, there is a good website which shows the energy sources for the national grid. Google "national grid energy sources", click on "year" for a good indication of where our energy comes from.

No, I don’t,

"

What?


"

I expect you to know such things and be able to converse, without me digging through a minefield of information to justify your claims.

"

Haven't made any claims. I'm answering your unrelated questions. Not sure why I am, maybe I'm curious as to what you're trying to get at.

Anyway, no minefield, just a website with some handy graphics and stats. I assumed you asking meant you were interested. Obviously not.


"

I have no crystal ball, but I think you say you don’t understand? "

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?

Not sure what "game" this is. I answered your question directly.

To answer your question, there is a good website which shows the energy sources for the national grid. Google "national grid energy sources", click on "year" for a good indication of where our energy comes from.

No, I don’t,

What?

I expect you to know such things and be able to converse, without me digging through a minefield of information to justify your claims.

Haven't made any claims. I'm answering your unrelated questions. Not sure why I am, maybe I'm curious as to what you're trying to get at.

Anyway, no minefield, just a website with some handy graphics and stats. I assumed you asking meant you were interested. Obviously not.

I have no crystal ball, but I think you say you don’t understand?

"

I will ask the question again, based on renewables what do we need in terms of infrastructure to power the country?

If you can’t answer that, how can you complain about the continued use of fossil fuels?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?

Not sure what "game" this is. I answered your question directly.

To answer your question, there is a good website which shows the energy sources for the national grid. Google "national grid energy sources", click on "year" for a good indication of where our energy comes from.

No, I don’t,

What?

I expect you to know such things and be able to converse, without me digging through a minefield of information to justify your claims.

Haven't made any claims. I'm answering your unrelated questions. Not sure why I am, maybe I'm curious as to what you're trying to get at.

Anyway, no minefield, just a website with some handy graphics and stats. I assumed you asking meant you were interested. Obviously not.

I have no crystal ball, but I think you say you don’t understand?

I will ask the question again, based on renewables what do we need in terms of infrastructure to power the country?

If you can’t answer that, how can you complain about the continued use of fossil fuels?"

First time you've asked this question.

Haven't complained about the continued use of fossil fuels.

And I'm not sure what that unrelated random question would have to do about that anyway.

Hope that helps.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?

Not sure what "game" this is. I answered your question directly.

To answer your question, there is a good website which shows the energy sources for the national grid. Google "national grid energy sources", click on "year" for a good indication of where our energy comes from.

No, I don’t,

What?

I expect you to know such things and be able to converse, without me digging through a minefield of information to justify your claims.

Haven't made any claims. I'm answering your unrelated questions. Not sure why I am, maybe I'm curious as to what you're trying to get at.

Anyway, no minefield, just a website with some handy graphics and stats. I assumed you asking meant you were interested. Obviously not.

I have no crystal ball, but I think you say you don’t understand?

I will ask the question again, based on renewables what do we need in terms of infrastructure to power the country?

If you can’t answer that, how can you complain about the continued use of fossil fuels?

First time you've asked this question.

Haven't complained about the continued use of fossil fuels.

And I'm not sure what that unrelated random question would have to do about that anyway.

Hope that helps."

you said to this post:

In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!"

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win. .

What did you mean by this?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?

Not sure what "game" this is. I answered your question directly.

To answer your question, there is a good website which shows the energy sources for the national grid. Google "national grid energy sources", click on "year" for a good indication of where our energy comes from.

No, I don’t,

What?

I expect you to know such things and be able to converse, without me digging through a minefield of information to justify your claims.

Haven't made any claims. I'm answering your unrelated questions. Not sure why I am, maybe I'm curious as to what you're trying to get at.

Anyway, no minefield, just a website with some handy graphics and stats. I assumed you asking meant you were interested. Obviously not.

I have no crystal ball, but I think you say you don’t understand?

I will ask the question again, based on renewables what do we need in terms of infrastructure to power the country?

If you can’t answer that, how can you complain about the continued use of fossil fuels?

First time you've asked this question.

Haven't complained about the continued use of fossil fuels.

And I'm not sure what that unrelated random question would have to do about that anyway.

Hope that helps.you said to this post:

In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!"

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win. .

What did you mean by this?"

OP said in other posts and threads that he doesn't believe climate science is real and has continued to champion ideas and policies that prioritise fossil fuel company profits.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?

Not sure what "game" this is. I answered your question directly.

To answer your question, there is a good website which shows the energy sources for the national grid. Google "national grid energy sources", click on "year" for a good indication of where our energy comes from.

No, I don’t,

What?

I expect you to know such things and be able to converse, without me digging through a minefield of information to justify your claims.

Haven't made any claims. I'm answering your unrelated questions. Not sure why I am, maybe I'm curious as to what you're trying to get at.

Anyway, no minefield, just a website with some handy graphics and stats. I assumed you asking meant you were interested. Obviously not.

I have no crystal ball, but I think you say you don’t understand?

I will ask the question again, based on renewables what do we need in terms of infrastructure to power the country?

If you can’t answer that, how can you complain about the continued use of fossil fuels?

First time you've asked this question.

Haven't complained about the continued use of fossil fuels.

And I'm not sure what that unrelated random question would have to do about that anyway.

Hope that helps.you said to this post:

In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!"

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win. .

What did you mean by this?

OP said in other posts and threads that he doesn't believe climate science is real and has continued to champion ideas and policies that prioritise fossil fuel company profits. "

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'Climate science' is, according to my own investigations, overly exaggerated.

Anyone needing to know my conclusions can, with some intelligent research, work it out for themselves.

There is quite a little more behind this so-called 'scientific evidence' .

That's all I'm prepared to post on this divisive subject and I posted because I have a little time here to myself.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings


"We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths

Sadly the government is woefully behind and isn't pushing green energy at all.

Also, electric cars have nothing to do with green energy.

He didn’t say EV’s were green energy, he said we are going to need more / new power stations to provide power to the EV’s.

Is that true? Is there any evidence that the national grid is struggling?"

No but EV to run at cost need to charge at night on off peek or its more expensive then petrol so ho would invest in a more expensive car that is more expensive to run. The math don't stack up.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings


"We’re going to need new power stations just to charge all the electric cars everyday , it appears the government is pushing green energy without doing the maths

Sadly the government is woefully behind and isn't pushing green energy at all.

Also, electric cars have nothing to do with green energy.

He didn’t say EV’s were green energy, he said we are going to need more / new power stations to provide power to the EV’s.

Is that true? Is there any evidence that the national grid is struggling?

Let’s say it isn’t true, for a moment. How would we produce enough renewable energy to charge all of the EV’s in 2035 onwards?

Not all, there'll be a percentage that are self charging. "

My self charging has a 2liter petrol engine it doses not chage it self for long but I do get 45 to 55 mph so cheep to run and uses less petrol.

But you can't plug it in to top it up Toyota rav 4 18 months old

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well well well

Another nail in the coffin of renewables being cheap.

We had a thread that went into great detail about how bidding worked on renewables.

A certain asylum person denounced that green energy was costly and that the costs were cheaper than gas.

I warned about inflation and that certainly costs weren't taken I to account.

The government's newest round of bidding for green energy at a set priced attracted.....ZERO bids.

Sadly people didn't listen because....blah blah Tufton street stooges.

Well. Sadly uk green energy is going to have to get a LOT more expensive to become viable for big companies.

the government increased the payment amount t to these companies by 16%.

And it wasn't enough.

Remember these costs exclude green subsidies. Maintenance of the grid,laying the connectors.

But we are meant to believe that green is cheaper.

I dont think so.

"

One drop of rain doesn’t make a flood. Calm down, have a cup of tea or something.

I’d be surprised when a competent administration gets in. Probably be handled far better than the clown show we have leading this country at the moment.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Well well well

Another nail in the coffin of renewables being cheap.

We had a thread that went into great detail about how bidding worked on renewables.

A certain asylum person denounced that green energy was costly and that the costs were cheaper than gas.

I warned about inflation and that certainly costs weren't taken I to account.

The government's newest round of bidding for green energy at a set priced attracted.....ZERO bids.

Sadly people didn't listen because....blah blah Tufton street stooges.

Well. Sadly uk green energy is going to have to get a LOT more expensive to become viable for big companies.

the government increased the payment amount t to these companies by 16%.

And it wasn't enough.

Remember these costs exclude green subsidies. Maintenance of the grid,laying the connectors.

But we are meant to believe that green is cheaper.

I dont think so.

One drop of rain doesn’t make a flood. Calm down, have a cup of tea or something.

I’d be surprised when a competent administration gets in. Probably be handled far better than the clown show we have leading this country at the moment."

I doubt it, energy supply will not be calm until we are ahead in nuclear. Until then please allow for the pie in the sky ideas that renewables are the answer to all our problems.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well well well

Another nail in the coffin of renewables being cheap.

We had a thread that went into great detail about how bidding worked on renewables.

A certain asylum person denounced that green energy was costly and that the costs were cheaper than gas.

I warned about inflation and that certainly costs weren't taken I to account.

The government's newest round of bidding for green energy at a set priced attracted.....ZERO bids.

Sadly people didn't listen because....blah blah Tufton street stooges.

Well. Sadly uk green energy is going to have to get a LOT more expensive to become viable for big companies.

the government increased the payment amount t to these companies by 16%.

And it wasn't enough.

Remember these costs exclude green subsidies. Maintenance of the grid,laying the connectors.

But we are meant to believe that green is cheaper.

I dont think so.

One drop of rain doesn’t make a flood. Calm down, have a cup of tea or something.

I’d be surprised when a competent administration gets in. Probably be handled far better than the clown show we have leading this country at the moment.

I doubt it, energy supply will not be calm until we are ahead in nuclear. Until then please allow for the pie in the sky ideas that renewables are the answer to all our problems. "

Who said I thought 100% renewable energy was the way to go?, I am fully aware of the contribution that nuclear power has to support the reduction in carbon emissions.

So calm down and have a cup of tea.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Well well well

Another nail in the coffin of renewables being cheap.

We had a thread that went into great detail about how bidding worked on renewables.

A certain asylum person denounced that green energy was costly and that the costs were cheaper than gas.

I warned about inflation and that certainly costs weren't taken I to account.

The government's newest round of bidding for green energy at a set priced attracted.....ZERO bids.

Sadly people didn't listen because....blah blah Tufton street stooges.

Well. Sadly uk green energy is going to have to get a LOT more expensive to become viable for big companies.

the government increased the payment amount t to these companies by 16%.

And it wasn't enough.

Remember these costs exclude green subsidies. Maintenance of the grid,laying the connectors.

But we are meant to believe that green is cheaper.

I dont think so.

One drop of rain doesn’t make a flood. Calm down, have a cup of tea or something.

I’d be surprised when a competent administration gets in. Probably be handled far better than the clown show we have leading this country at the moment.

I doubt it, energy supply will not be calm until we are ahead in nuclear. Until then please allow for the pie in the sky ideas that renewables are the answer to all our problems.

Who said I thought 100% renewable energy was the way to go?, I am fully aware of the contribution that nuclear power has to support the reduction in carbon emissions.

So calm down and have a cup of tea.

"

You seem to be trolling me, why?

Going back to my post is was my opinion, following on from your post.

Now going back to you following me around threads being strange in behaviour, stop before you reply to me and ask yourself if you are being personal or having something genuine to contribute. Don't be that person....

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By *orleyman OP   Man  over a year ago

Leeds


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?"

To power the uk 100% without failure. You probably need about 10 times what we have for a failsafe when wind doesn't blow.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?

To power the uk 100% without failure. You probably need about 10 times what we have for a failsafe when wind doesn't blow."

So you would also need storage as the wind might not blow and it could be dark. Tidal on rivers needs more looking at as tell hydro-electric. Let's face it we need more water storage as in reservoirs.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In Germany, they are actually dismantling a wind farm, to get at 20 to 30 million tonnes of brown coal....the worst polluting type!

OP should be chuffed. More profits for fossil fuels companies, more CO2 in the atmosphere for some extra accelerated climate change. Win win.

Name me a reliable renewable that could power our infrastructure, that would include hospitals, airports, shopping malls, houses and everything else that needs energy

Why does it have to be one? Clearly the answer is a combination of them all working together.

I will play this game!

If we add up all the different renewable energy sources we have today, how much bigger do all of those sources need to be to power the UK?

To power the uk 100% without failure. You probably need about 10 times what we have for a failsafe when wind doesn't blow.

So you would also need storage as the wind might not blow and it could be dark. Tidal on rivers needs more looking at as tell hydro-electric. Let's face it we need more water storage as in reservoirs."

A successful renewable scheme has always required a multi-faceted approach of wind/water/solar energy.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan  over a year ago

Gilfach


"A successful renewable scheme has always required a multi-faceted approach of wind/water/solar energy."

And storage.

If your sources of electricity aren't constant, you have to have some method of storing energy for use when there isn't any being generated.

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