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"Honestly could this rabble organise a piss up in a brewery. Obviously post Covid...during Covid they where definatley on the ball Yes more a statement that a debate, however ffs..." . Just as well the electorate would dismiss your opinion. Maybe a reality check - the government had an 80 seat majority at the last election . Last time I checked the NHS is still functioning , we have a generous welfare system , pensions are paid and education is available to everyone. Maybe we should be thanking the government for being to well organised. We now need to slash Corporstiion Tax and make people realise that everything has a cost. Reduce Corporation Tax and we will be able to compete with Ireland forinvestment. Jeremy Hunter and Rishi Sunak should hang their heads in shame for increasing Corporation tax . What type of person wants to make pensioners worse off and decrease investment with a subsequent loss of jobs . At least Boris Johnson and Lizz Truss had the best interests of the Country at heart. Short term movements in the money market can be ignore. Both Boris and Liz Truss had plans for long term success. The country is much poorer without them. | |||
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"How is this the governments fault?" they have acquired the barge & are responsible for making Shure that the conditions on board are safe. | |||
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"How is this the governments fault?" Your right, how can you blame the government ...I mean they are only the people who thought the idea up, changed the rules to implement the idea, made the idea reality and forced the idea on the people of the Dorset Town....na saying it is the government's fault is a tenious link at best lol. Do you think Hitler was responsible for the WWII....I mean he never fought on any front. Lol...you are a wind up aren't you lolololololol | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? Your right, how can you blame the government ...I mean they are only the people who thought the idea up, changed the rules to implement the idea, made the idea reality and forced the idea on the people of the Dorset Town....na saying it is the government's fault is a tenious link at best lol. Do you think Hitler was responsible for the WWII....I mean he never fought on any front. Lol...you are a wind up aren't you lolololololol" . Public health is the responsibility of the Civil Serice . They implement the policies on behalf of the government. In this case we are talking about a minor procedural issue. | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? Your right, how can you blame the government ...I mean they are only the people who thought the idea up, changed the rules to implement the idea, made the idea reality and forced the idea on the people of the Dorset Town....na saying it is the government's fault is a tenious link at best lol. Do you think Hitler was responsible for the WWII....I mean he never fought on any front. Lol...you are a wind up aren't you lolololololol" Irrational thinking at its best, there are few of you on here that cannot remove bias and look at things for what they are, not what you want them to be. | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? they have acquired the barge & are responsible for making Shure that the conditions on board are safe. " Which they are doing | |||
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"From what I read it took 2 weeks to get the results. They really should've waited for the results before moving anyone on. More money wasted "Whoever they contracted to the job should be taken off the preferred supplier list. | |||
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"How is this the governments fault?" They tested for disease but decided to move migrants onto the barge BEFORE their results came in. Initial testing was done on the 25th July, while results came back on the 7th Aug. The tory government are so obsessed with this publicity stunt. Rather than fixing the problem they end up exposing themselves as the incompetent idiots they are. | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? They tested for disease but decided to move migrants onto the barge BEFORE their results came in, despite it taking less than a week to receive results. The tory government are so obsessed with this publicity stunt. Rather than fixing the problem they end up exposing themselves as the incompetent idiots they are." Who made the decision to move them onto the barge without having the test results back? Have they outsourced the management? | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? They tested for disease but decided to move migrants onto the barge BEFORE their results came in, despite it taking less than a week to receive results. The tory government are so obsessed with this publicity stunt. Rather than fixing the problem they end up exposing themselves as the incompetent idiots they are. Who made the decision to move them onto the barge without having the test results back? Have they outsourced the management?" Decisions like this lie with the government. Services are outsourced, not policy and politics. | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? They tested for disease but decided to move migrants onto the barge BEFORE their results came in, despite it taking less than a week to receive results. The tory government are so obsessed with this publicity stunt. Rather than fixing the problem they end up exposing themselves as the incompetent idiots they are. Who made the decision to move them onto the barge without having the test results back? Have they outsourced the management? Decisions like this lie with the government. Services are outsourced, not policy and politics." Moving them on at a date yes, the getting ready and ensuring it is ready would be down to contractors. This smacks of a contracted agency not sharing the right information or worse not doing the job they were asked to do. Luckily it was tested and found before anyone was made ill. | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? Your right, how can you blame the government ...I mean they are only the people who thought the idea up, changed the rules to implement the idea, made the idea reality and forced the idea on the people of the Dorset Town....na saying it is the government's fault is a tenious link at best lol. Do you think Hitler was responsible for the WWII....I mean he never fought on any front. Lol...you are a wind up aren't you lolololololol Irrational thinking at its best, there are few of you on here that cannot remove bias and look at things for what they are, not what you want them to be. " Your a stage act, surley lolololol | |||
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"what is so difficult about doing all the tests & cleaning out the water system before moving people on? A mixture of impatience & incompetence? " Why would the mps do this? | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? they have acquired the barge & are responsible for making Shure that the conditions on board are safe. " I didn't realise mps had to do every single civil servants Job. | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? They tested for disease but decided to move migrants onto the barge BEFORE their results came in. Initial testing was done on the 25th July, while results came back on the 7th Aug. The tory government are so obsessed with this publicity stunt. Rather than fixing the problem they end up exposing themselves as the incompetent idiots they are." Honestly do people just not understand how this works. Do they think the mos made the decision to most them on board!?
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"How is this the governments fault? they have acquired the barge & are responsible for making Shure that the conditions on board are safe. I didn't realise mps had to do every single civil servants Job. if the civil servants say its not ready do ministers say move people in anyway? " | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? They tested for disease but decided to move migrants onto the barge BEFORE their results came in. Initial testing was done on the 25th July, while results came back on the 7th Aug. The tory government are so obsessed with this publicity stunt. Rather than fixing the problem they end up exposing themselves as the incompetent idiots they are. Honestly do people just not understand how this works. Do they think the mos made the decision to most them on board!?
Fucking hell"The home office is responsible for this. The home office is headed by Suella Braverman and Robert Jenrick. You may not be aware but they are both MPs and in the Tory Government. | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? They tested for disease but decided to move migrants onto the barge BEFORE their results came in. Initial testing was done on the 25th July, while results came back on the 7th Aug. The tory government are so obsessed with this publicity stunt. Rather than fixing the problem they end up exposing themselves as the incompetent idiots they are. Honestly do people just not understand how this works. Do they think the mos made the decision to most them on board!?
Fucking hell
The home office is responsible for this.
The home office is headed by Suella Braverman and Robert Jenrick.
You may not be aware but they are both MPs and in the Tory Government."You think mps micro manage every decision? You think when we had the military in Iraq and Afghanistan. The defense secretary ok'd every military decision? | |||
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"Literal responses from the ministers said it would take as long as it takes for all safety checks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66371897 Seems to me the ministers were more than happy to wait. " The problem with that link, it wont be read by those that really do need to stretch their minds and widen their views. The alarming thing is they want the government to be the centre of everything, so they have something and someone to blame. If you ever ask for a solution, it will always include the government providing support, 1 dimensional thinking. | |||
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"Honestly could this rabble organise a piss up in a brewery. Obviously post Covid...during Covid they where definatley on the ball Yes more a statement that a debate, however ffs.... Just as well the electorate would dismiss your opinion. Maybe a reality check - the government had an 80 seat majority at the last election . Last time I checked the NHS is still functioning , we have a generous welfare system , pensions are paid and education is available to everyone. Maybe we should be thanking the government for being to well organised. We now need to slash Corporstiion Tax and make people realise that everything has a cost. Reduce Corporation Tax and we will be able to compete with Ireland forinvestment. Jeremy Hunter and Rishi Sunak should hang their heads in shame for increasing Corporation tax . What type of person wants to make pensioners worse off and decrease investment with a subsequent loss of jobs . At least Boris Johnson and Lizz Truss had the best interests of the Country at heart. Short term movements in the money market can be ignore. Both Boris and Liz Truss had plans for long term success. The country is much poorer without them. " Presumably you are a parody? An 80 seat majority! How's polling looking at the moment? NHS functioning? Liz Truss a good thing? | |||
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"Honestly could this rabble organise a piss up in a brewery. Obviously post Covid...during Covid they where definatley on the ball Yes more a statement that a debate, however ffs.... Just as well the electorate would dismiss your opinion. Maybe a reality check - the government had an 80 seat majority at the last election . Last time I checked the NHS is still functioning , we have a generous welfare system , pensions are paid and education is available to everyone. Maybe we should be thanking the government for being to well organised. We now need to slash Corporstiion Tax and make people realise that everything has a cost. Reduce Corporation Tax and we will be able to compete with Ireland forinvestment. Jeremy Hunter and Rishi Sunak should hang their heads in shame for increasing Corporation tax . What type of person wants to make pensioners worse off and decrease investment with a subsequent loss of jobs . At least Boris Johnson and Lizz Truss had the best interests of the Country at heart. Short term movements in the money market can be ignore. Both Boris and Liz Truss had plans for long term success. The country is much poorer without them. Presumably you are a parody? An 80 seat majority! How's polling looking at the moment? NHS functioning? Liz Truss a good thing?" He is trolling people who vote for the Tories/think Brexit is a good idea etc. | |||
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"Give it 8 months and it will be labours problem Not going away, another capsized boat today 6 dead/50 rescued. 45k here from boat arrivals, 28k from Syria, 174k from Ukraine. Government could offer households a scheme to take people in if they are genuinely concerned about refugee welfare. There will be millions more coming from war zones, unstable countries and displaced by climate change. " People are not concerned enough to open their doors, although there was more of an appetite for Ukrainians, but definitely not for the men arriving by small boat. | |||
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"The Tories don’t care about looking incompetent. This is all about keeping the migrants story front page headlines for as long has possible. The migration issue is a godsend to the Tories. They want to make the next election a one issue election, just like the last. So more anti- migration they can appear the more they can appeal to people with that mind set. The main group they will be targeting are the poor on benefits, the traditional Labour stronghold . This group will be told that their misery is the migrants fault. If it wasn’t for the money spent on migrants. The government would be giving them more in this cost of living crisis. The irony is, if it wasn’t for the migrants, this is the group the Tories would have attacking for the countries problems. After all who was it before the migrants came along. It was the same people attacking the migrants that not so long ago were using similar language about single mothers, benefit scroungers and others. Amazingly history tells us people keep falling for this time and time again. Imagine a group of poor people believing voting for a party of Eton educated elites is in their best interests. It’s why they have people who 20 years ago would have been leading groups like the National Front in the cabinet. Lee Anderson and Braverman are purposely chose for no other reason than this. This combined with the most ideologically void Labour Party in history means the might escape a thrashing they deserve at the next election. Maybe even pull off a surprise victory. " Other than get the tories out, what do you think the answer is to tackling the crisis we have with small boat crossings? | |||
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" Other than get the tories out, what do you think the answer is to tackling the crisis we have with small boat crossings? " An impossible task, global migration is a huge phenomenon outside of our control. Wars, poverty, climate change and displacement. Uk didn’t have a problem with migrants when we traded them as sl_ves and incarcerated people through colonisation. | |||
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" Other than get the tories out, what do you think the answer is to tackling the crisis we have with small boat crossings? An impossible task, global migration is a huge phenomenon outside of our control. Wars, poverty, climate change and displacement. Uk didn’t have a problem with migrants when we traded them as sl_ves and incarcerated people through colonisation. " I know what we should do. We should all feel fucking terrible because of something someone we never knew done. BTW, poverty and climate change aren't valid reason for asylum. | |||
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" Other than get the tories out, what do you think the answer is to tackling the crisis we have with small boat crossings? " If we actually had processing centres in mainland Europe we would have far less migrant boats crossing the channel. Provide legal visa routes. There are currently no visa routes available for the purposes of travelling to the UK to claim asylum, and it is not possible to apply for asylum in the UK without being physically present here. | |||
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"From what I read it took 2 weeks to get the results. They really should've waited for the results before moving anyone on. More money wasted
Whoever they contracted to the job should be taken off the preferred supplier list."Unless it's a friend | |||
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"How is this the governments fault? They tested for disease but decided to move migrants onto the barge BEFORE their results came in. Initial testing was done on the 25th July, while results came back on the 7th Aug. The tory government are so obsessed with this publicity stunt. Rather than fixing the problem they end up exposing themselves as the incompetent idiots they are." Sounds a bit like when they moved the oldies back into residential and nursing homes from hospital, without checking if they were still contagious with covid . Anyone NOT remember that. | |||
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"Honestly could this rabble organise a piss up in a brewery. Obviously post Covid...during Covid they where definatley on the ball Yes more a statement that a debate, however ffs.... Just as well the electorate would dismiss your opinion. Maybe a reality check - the government had an 80 seat majority at the last election . Last time I checked the NHS is still functioning , we have a generous welfare system , pensions are paid and education is available to everyone. Maybe we should be thanking the government for being to well organised. We now need to slash Corporstiion Tax and make people realise that everything has a cost. Reduce Corporation Tax and we will be able to compete with Ireland forinvestment. Jeremy Hunter and Rishi Sunak should hang their heads in shame for increasing Corporation tax . What type of person wants to make pensioners worse off and decrease investment with a subsequent loss of jobs . At least Boris Johnson and Lizz Truss had the best interests of the Country at heart. Short term movements in the money market can be ignore. Both Boris and Liz Truss had plans for long term success. The country is much poorer without them. Presumably you are a parody? An 80 seat majority! How's polling looking at the moment? NHS functioning? Liz Truss a good thing? He is trolling people who vote for the Tories/think Brexit is a good idea etc." Oh behave - one can vote for Brexit while hating the Tories. People on here have short memories, when the referendum came out, it wasn't aligned with a party BUT once the people had voted, the govt had to follow through. | |||
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"Literal responses from the ministers said it would take as long as it takes for all safety checks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66371897 Seems to me the ministers were more than happy to wait. The problem with that link, it wont be read by those that really do need to stretch their minds and widen their views. The alarming thing is they want the government to be the centre of everything, so they have something and someone to blame. If you ever ask for a solution, it will always include the government providing support, 1 dimensional thinking. " Some people simply don't understand how management roles work. The mps put into place the practices and its for civil servants to assess when to move them onto the barge. People simply can't comprehend an mp doesn't stand over and personally agree every decision a quango or public service makes. They seem to think mps are the ones who decide ever single benefit claimants viability. | |||
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" Other than get the tories out, what do you think the answer is to tackling the crisis we have with small boat crossings? An impossible task, global migration is a huge phenomenon outside of our control. Wars, poverty, climate change and displacement. Uk didn’t have a problem with migrants when we traded them as sl_ves and incarcerated people through colonisation. " I think we had a problem with migrants when the Normans rocked up with William, and possibly when the Saxons, vikings, and Romans decided to turn the island into their own and with it the people who were often taken, abused or killed. I guess it isn't all one way and every country / civilisation has suffered under threat from other tribes and forces. How long do you hold onto such things, when is no longer an issue? But more importantly what has it got to do with Albanian, Syrian men etc making the crossing or are you talking specifically about something else? | |||
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"The Tories don’t care about looking incompetent. This is all about keeping the migrants story front page headlines for as long has possible. The migration issue is a godsend to the Tories. They want to make the next election a one issue election, just like the last. So more anti- migration they can appear the more they can appeal to people with that mind set. The main group they will be targeting are the poor on benefits, the traditional Labour stronghold . This group will be told that their misery is the migrants fault. If it wasn’t for the money spent on migrants. The government would be giving them more in this cost of living crisis. The irony is, if it wasn’t for the migrants, this is the group the Tories would have attacking for the countries problems. After all who was it before the migrants came along. It was the same people attacking the migrants that not so long ago were using similar language about single mothers, benefit scroungers and others. Amazingly history tells us people keep falling for this time and time again. Imagine a group of poor people believing voting for a party of Eton educated elites is in their best interests. It’s why they have people who 20 years ago would have been leading groups like the National Front in the cabinet. Lee Anderson and Braverman are purposely chose for no other reason than this. This combined with the most ideologically void Labour Party in history means the might escape a thrashing they deserve at the next election. Maybe even pull off a surprise victory. Other than get the tories out, what do you think the answer is to tackling the crisis we have with small boat crossings? " Well most have been mentioned in media like processing centres abroad, increasing the capacity of the processing here including returning failed applications ASAP. One not mentioned much is finding and giving harsh punishment to the criminal smugglers. When do you hear about what the governments are doing about them. Do you hear so many have been caught today. These people seem to be able to organise daily launches and nobody is getting caught. Are these people ghosts or just leading charmed lifes. Or could they be protected from powers above..? For decades the Western Blocs, Russia and now China have used developing countries around the world as playgrounds for their geopolitical struggle for power, influence and resources. What have succeeded in doing is leaving these places broke, divided and ungovernable. Is it any wonder that the launching pad of these migrants into Europe is Libya. Another country left ungovernable by foreign interferences. The migrant crisis are the chickens coming home to roost. | |||
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"Literal responses from the ministers said it would take as long as it takes for all safety checks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66371897 Seems to me the ministers were more than happy to wait. The problem with that link, it wont be read by those that really do need to stretch their minds and widen their views. The alarming thing is they want the government to be the centre of everything, so they have something and someone to blame. If you ever ask for a solution, it will always include the government providing support, 1 dimensional thinking. Some people simply don't understand how management roles work. The mps put into place the practices and its for civil servants to assess when to move them onto the barge. People simply can't comprehend an mp doesn't stand over and personally agree every decision a quango or public service makes. They seem to think mps are the ones who decide ever single benefit claimants viability. " Mostly correct but some further nuance. 1. It is Ministers not MPs that set Govt policy. 2. Not all Ministers are MPs as some are from the HoL. 3. MPs get to vote on proposed legislation/policy but are not involved in the day-to-day implementation of that legislation/policy. 4. Some MPs are able to scrutinise the implementation of leg/pol via select committees. 5. The Civil Service is there to develop leg/pol, advise Ministers on viability of leg/pol via risk and impact assessments etc and other forms of due diligence, and then implement/operate that leg/pol on a day-to-day basis. I have no idea what would have happened in this instance but it is clearly a cock up. Two main scenarios (both of which happen more often than we would hope): A) Civil Service would advise Ministers on an appropriate timeline (to carry out all necessary checks etc) but that would be overruled by Ministers who say JFDI. B) Civil Service cock up by forgetting a key step in the process (often a junior CS will point it out and be told JFDI by a SCS who is keen to keep Ministers happy as they climb the career path). | |||
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"Literal responses from the ministers said it would take as long as it takes for all safety checks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66371897 Seems to me the ministers were more than happy to wait. The problem with that link, it wont be read by those that really do need to stretch their minds and widen their views. The alarming thing is they want the government to be the centre of everything, so they have something and someone to blame. If you ever ask for a solution, it will always include the government providing support, 1 dimensional thinking. Some people simply don't understand how management roles work. The mps put into place the practices and its for civil servants to assess when to move them onto the barge. People simply can't comprehend an mp doesn't stand over and personally agree every decision a quango or public service makes. They seem to think mps are the ones who decide ever single benefit claimants viability. Mostly correct but some further nuance. 1. It is Ministers not MPs that set Govt policy. 2. Not all Ministers are MPs as some are from the HoL. 3. MPs get to vote on proposed legislation/policy but are not involved in the day-to-day implementation of that legislation/policy. 4. Some MPs are able to scrutinise the implementation of leg/pol via select committees. 5. The Civil Service is there to develop leg/pol, advise Ministers on viability of leg/pol via risk and impact assessments etc and other forms of due diligence, and then implement/operate that leg/pol on a day-to-day basis. I have no idea what would have happened in this instance but it is clearly a cock up. Two main scenarios (both of which happen more often than we would hope): A) Civil Service would advise Ministers on an appropriate timeline (to carry out all necessary checks etc) but that would be overruled by Ministers who say JFDI. B) Civil Service cock up by forgetting a key step in the process (often a junior CS will point it out and be told JFDI by a SCS who is keen to keep Ministers happy as they climb the career path)." It will be definitely be B. Nobody on the project wanting to tell the stakeholders there is going to be a delay.... | |||
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"Literal responses from the ministers said it would take as long as it takes for all safety checks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66371897 Seems to me the ministers were more than happy to wait. The problem with that link, it wont be read by those that really do need to stretch their minds and widen their views. The alarming thing is they want the government to be the centre of everything, so they have something and someone to blame. If you ever ask for a solution, it will always include the government providing support, 1 dimensional thinking. Some people simply don't understand how management roles work. The mps put into place the practices and its for civil servants to assess when to move them onto the barge. People simply can't comprehend an mp doesn't stand over and personally agree every decision a quango or public service makes. They seem to think mps are the ones who decide ever single benefit claimants viability. Mostly correct but some further nuance. 1. It is Ministers not MPs that set Govt policy. 2. Not all Ministers are MPs as some are from the HoL. 3. MPs get to vote on proposed legislation/policy but are not involved in the day-to-day implementation of that legislation/policy. 4. Some MPs are able to scrutinise the implementation of leg/pol via select committees. 5. The Civil Service is there to develop leg/pol, advise Ministers on viability of leg/pol via risk and impact assessments etc and other forms of due diligence, and then implement/operate that leg/pol on a day-to-day basis. I have no idea what would have happened in this instance but it is clearly a cock up. Two main scenarios (both of which happen more often than we would hope): A) Civil Service would advise Ministers on an appropriate timeline (to carry out all necessary checks etc) but that would be overruled by Ministers who say JFDI. B) Civil Service cock up by forgetting a key step in the process (often a junior CS will point it out and be told JFDI by a SCS who is keen to keep Ministers happy as they climb the career path). It will be definitely be B. Nobody on the project wanting to tell the stakeholders there is going to be a delay.... " I wouldn’t say “definitely” but yeah, likely. Probably being run by consultants | |||
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"Literal responses from the ministers said it would take as long as it takes for all safety checks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66371897 Seems to me the ministers were more than happy to wait. The problem with that link, it wont be read by those that really do need to stretch their minds and widen their views. The alarming thing is they want the government to be the centre of everything, so they have something and someone to blame. If you ever ask for a solution, it will always include the government providing support, 1 dimensional thinking. Some people simply don't understand how management roles work. The mps put into place the practices and its for civil servants to assess when to move them onto the barge. People simply can't comprehend an mp doesn't stand over and personally agree every decision a quango or public service makes. They seem to think mps are the ones who decide ever single benefit claimants viability. Mostly correct but some further nuance. 1. It is Ministers not MPs that set Govt policy. 2. Not all Ministers are MPs as some are from the HoL. 3. MPs get to vote on proposed legislation/policy but are not involved in the day-to-day implementation of that legislation/policy. 4. Some MPs are able to scrutinise the implementation of leg/pol via select committees. 5. The Civil Service is there to develop leg/pol, advise Ministers on viability of leg/pol via risk and impact assessments etc and other forms of due diligence, and then implement/operate that leg/pol on a day-to-day basis. I have no idea what would have happened in this instance but it is clearly a cock up. Two main scenarios (both of which happen more often than we would hope): A) Civil Service would advise Ministers on an appropriate timeline (to carry out all necessary checks etc) but that would be overruled by Ministers who say JFDI. B) Civil Service cock up by forgetting a key step in the process (often a junior CS will point it out and be told JFDI by a SCS who is keen to keep Ministers happy as they climb the career path)." I was specifically mentioning mps re laws. The rest is up to Civil service typically. | |||
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"This is the same problem. People had with the " tory giving contracts to mates over covid" There's was NEVER any proof a tory mp ever said JFDI. The contracts are granted by the civil service. Ministers had.bugger all input. Their min input came from.the creation of the vip Lane. Which again was the suggestion of a civil servant at dhsc. The mps changed procurement laws. Again though. I'm not sure how any of this can be pinned on a government.cwhere multiple mps said it takes as long as it takes. It certainly didn't seem they were in a rush to move them onto the barge. Seems to me a civil servant fuck up." Definitely just a coincidence that £ billions were given to PPE start ups owned by Tory MPs mates, friends and neighbours. Nothing to see here. Look at those people in those small boats over there. | |||
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"This is the same problem. People had with the " tory giving contracts to mates over covid" There's was NEVER any proof a tory mp ever said JFDI. The contracts are granted by the civil service. Ministers had.bugger all input. Their min input came from.the creation of the vip Lane. Which again was the suggestion of a civil servant at dhsc. The mps changed procurement laws. Again though. I'm not sure how any of this can be pinned on a government.cwhere multiple mps said it takes as long as it takes. It certainly didn't seem they were in a rush to move them onto the barge. Seems to me a civil servant fuck up." No comment on whether it was/wasn’t a Civil Service fuck up (see scenario A and B above). But the rest of your post is naive in the extreme. You do of course understand the concept of plausible deniability? Do you think a Minister saying JFDI would be verbal or written? Do you think there would be an audit trail! Ministers (blue and red) have always said JFDI in pursuit of delivering their pet policies. These things happen via conversations where the ramifications of not delivering are made quite clear. Those “robust conversations” are what lies behind many of the bullying claims. | |||
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"This is the same problem. People had with the " tory giving contracts to mates over covid" There's was NEVER any proof a tory mp ever said JFDI. The contracts are granted by the civil service. Ministers had.bugger all input. Their min input came from.the creation of the vip Lane. Which again was the suggestion of a civil servant at dhsc. The mps changed procurement laws. Again though. I'm not sure how any of this can be pinned on a government.cwhere multiple mps said it takes as long as it takes. It certainly didn't seem they were in a rush to move them onto the barge. Seems to me a civil servant fuck up. Definitely just a coincidence that £ billions were given to PPE start ups owned by Tory MPs mates, friends and neighbours. Nothing to see here. Look at those people in those small boats over there. " Exactly. | |||
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"This is the same problem. People had with the " tory giving contracts to mates over covid" There's was NEVER any proof a tory mp ever said JFDI. The contracts are granted by the civil service. Ministers had.bugger all input. Their min input came from.the creation of the vip Lane. Which again was the suggestion of a civil servant at dhsc. The mps changed procurement laws. Again though. I'm not sure how any of this can be pinned on a government.cwhere multiple mps said it takes as long as it takes. It certainly didn't seem they were in a rush to move them onto the barge. Seems to me a civil servant fuck up. No comment on whether it was/wasn’t a Civil Service fuck up (see scenario A and B above). But the rest of your post is naive in the extreme. You do of course understand the concept of plausible deniability? Do you think a Minister saying JFDI would be verbal or written? Do you think there would be an audit trail! Ministers (blue and red) have always said JFDI in pursuit of delivering their pet policies. These things happen via conversations where the ramifications of not delivering are made quite clear. Those “robust conversations” are what lies behind many of the bullying claims." I would expect some evidence of the accusations. This is how society works. When you find that evidence. I am here waiting for it. | |||
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"This is the same problem. People had with the " tory giving contracts to mates over covid" There's was NEVER any proof a tory mp ever said JFDI. The contracts are granted by the civil service. Ministers had.bugger all input. Their min input came from.the creation of the vip Lane. Which again was the suggestion of a civil servant at dhsc. The mps changed procurement laws. Again though. I'm not sure how any of this can be pinned on a government.cwhere multiple mps said it takes as long as it takes. It certainly didn't seem they were in a rush to move them onto the barge. Seems to me a civil servant fuck up. No comment on whether it was/wasn’t a Civil Service fuck up (see scenario A and B above). But the rest of your post is naive in the extreme. You do of course understand the concept of plausible deniability? Do you think a Minister saying JFDI would be verbal or written? Do you think there would be an audit trail! Ministers (blue and red) have always said JFDI in pursuit of delivering their pet policies. These things happen via conversations where the ramifications of not delivering are made quite clear. Those “robust conversations” are what lies behind many of the bullying claims. I would expect some evidence of the accusations. This is how society works. When you find that evidence. I am here waiting for it. " Of course you do. Modus Operandi. Verbal agreements and plausible deniability is how much works at the level you seem to have little comprehension of. You are quite the miracle aren’t you Morley. In the past fortnight you have shown yourself to be an expert in just about everything. Can’t wait to see you on the conference circuit. When is your TED Talk? I expect you to be an expert in your specialist accountancy area. I think you also worked in gambling fraud or some such? You know your stuff with economics for sure. But you seem to be an expert in climate change, 20th century European history, and now the inner workings and behind the scenes machinations of the UK Govt! Astounding. I don’t care what you think. Anybody who has ever worked in or had close working experience with central govt knows how things actually work. You carry on with the naivety. | |||
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"This is the same problem. People had with the " tory giving contracts to mates over covid" There's was NEVER any proof a tory mp ever said JFDI. The contracts are granted by the civil service. Ministers had.bugger all input. Their min input came from.the creation of the vip Lane. Which again was the suggestion of a civil servant at dhsc. The mps changed procurement laws. Again though. I'm not sure how any of this can be pinned on a government.cwhere multiple mps said it takes as long as it takes. It certainly didn't seem they were in a rush to move them onto the barge. Seems to me a civil servant fuck up. No comment on whether it was/wasn’t a Civil Service fuck up (see scenario A and B above). But the rest of your post is naive in the extreme. You do of course understand the concept of plausible deniability? Do you think a Minister saying JFDI would be verbal or written? Do you think there would be an audit trail! Ministers (blue and red) have always said JFDI in pursuit of delivering their pet policies. These things happen via conversations where the ramifications of not delivering are made quite clear. Those “robust conversations” are what lies behind many of the bullying claims. I would expect some evidence of the accusations. This is how society works. When you find that evidence. I am here waiting for it. Of course you do. Modus Operandi. Verbal agreements and plausible deniability is how much works at the level you seem to have little comprehension of. You are quite the miracle aren’t you Morley. In the past fortnight you have shown yourself to be an expert in just about everything. Can’t wait to see you on the conference circuit. When is your TED Talk? I expect you to be an expert in your specialist accountancy area. I think you also worked in gambling fraud or some such? You know your stuff with economics for sure. But you seem to be an expert in climate change, 20th century European history, and now the inner workings and behind the scenes machinations of the UK Govt! Astounding. I don’t care what you think. Anybody who has ever worked in or had close working experience with central govt knows how things actually work. You carry on with the naivety. " Not an expert no. Just some one who goes off evidence. When you provide that evidence of your claims. I'll believe you. Like when i waited for farages evidence. Before I said I believed him. Unlike some who dismissed him because eof the eprosn he is. The evidence so far is that the nps were happy to wait. The moment you provide evidence the mps told them to get on with it. We can have that discussion. I await. Re. Climate change. Nope. Not an expert. Some one that reads. And provided evidence , government papers, and links. People here decided to play the man, not the data. So it's not my fault it was never refuted. It's also not my fault that after I made that point that what I said about firms bot taking up solar wind farms came to fruition. Again. Re 20th century history. I merely pointed out the nazi agenda and their actions and tied them.back to what is typically seen as left win politics in centralising most social and economic policies. Again. You couldn't refute this. Ironic you talk about naivity when you are yet to produce 1 shred of evidence on an mp influencing the decision on the barge. I await your evidence. | |||
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"This is the same problem. People had with the " tory giving contracts to mates over covid" There's was NEVER any proof a tory mp ever said JFDI. The contracts are granted by the civil service. Ministers had.bugger all input. Their min input came from.the creation of the vip Lane. Which again was the suggestion of a civil servant at dhsc. The mps changed procurement laws. Again though. I'm not sure how any of this can be pinned on a government.cwhere multiple mps said it takes as long as it takes. It certainly didn't seem they were in a rush to move them onto the barge. Seems to me a civil servant fuck up. No comment on whether it was/wasn’t a Civil Service fuck up (see scenario A and B above). But the rest of your post is naive in the extreme. You do of course understand the concept of plausible deniability? Do you think a Minister saying JFDI would be verbal or written? Do you think there would be an audit trail! Ministers (blue and red) have always said JFDI in pursuit of delivering their pet policies. These things happen via conversations where the ramifications of not delivering are made quite clear. Those “robust conversations” are what lies behind many of the bullying claims. I would expect some evidence of the accusations. This is how society works. When you find that evidence. I am here waiting for it. Of course you do. Modus Operandi. Verbal agreements and plausible deniability is how much works at the level you seem to have little comprehension of. You are quite the miracle aren’t you Morley. In the past fortnight you have shown yourself to be an expert in just about everything. Can’t wait to see you on the conference circuit. When is your TED Talk? I expect you to be an expert in your specialist accountancy area. I think you also worked in gambling fraud or some such? You know your stuff with economics for sure. But you seem to be an expert in climate change, 20th century European history, and now the inner workings and behind the scenes machinations of the UK Govt! Astounding. I don’t care what you think. Anybody who has ever worked in or had close working experience with central govt knows how things actually work. You carry on with the naivety. Not an expert no. Just some one who goes off evidence. When you provide that evidence of your claims. I'll believe you. Like when i waited for farages evidence. Before I said I believed him. Unlike some who dismissed him because eof the eprosn he is. The evidence so far is that the nps were happy to wait. The moment you provide evidence the mps told them to get on with it. We can have that discussion. I await. Re. Climate change. Nope. Not an expert. Some one that reads. And provided evidence , government papers, and links. People here decided to play the man, not the data. So it's not my fault it was never refuted. It's also not my fault that after I made that point that what I said about firms bot taking up solar wind farms came to fruition. Again. Re 20th century history. I merely pointed out the nazi agenda and their actions and tied them.back to what is typically seen as left win politics in centralising most social and economic policies. Again. You couldn't refute this. Ironic you talk about naivity when you are yet to produce 1 shred of evidence on an mp influencing the decision on the barge. I await your evidence. " I don’t care what you believe or you demands for evidence for verbal instructions that enable plausible deniability. I have not taken a position regarding the barge. Are you actually reading what is written or just ignoring that and focusing only on what is in your imagination. You were/are wrong about the Nazis but we can leave that to the relevant thread. BTW I forgot that also in the past fortnight you are an expert in immigration, the objectives and mandate if the RNLI, and I suspect pretty much everything else anyone ever posts about. Seriously impressive stuff. | |||
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"Nepotism has (probably) always existed since the dawn of man. It always will. Even communism, although the theory of things being shared equally is magnificent, is maligned by power and the favouring of others. You need proof? Weird." Yes apparently so, of when things go wrong in the implementation of government policy, proof its the mp or ministers in charge that are to blame personally. Any idea how to find that..? Any inside sources..? Will hearsay be enough for Judge Morley...? In some organisations the buck usually stops ar the top.. One would have thought that after the Rwanda flight debacle that Braverman would have been all over this latest government stunt that everything went smoothly. | |||
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"Nepotism has (probably) always existed since the dawn of man. It always will. Even communism, although the theory of things being shared equally is magnificent, is maligned by power and the favouring of others. You need proof? Weird." Even when provided with proof across various threads on different topics, that proof is never enough. It is always dismissed or the focus shifts onto a technicality or some piece of minutiae. | |||
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"This is the same problem. People had with the " tory giving contracts to mates over covid" There's was NEVER any proof a tory mp ever said JFDI. The contracts are granted by the civil service. Ministers had.bugger all input. Their min input came from.the creation of the vip Lane. Which again was the suggestion of a civil servant at dhsc. The mps changed procurement laws. Again though. I'm not sure how any of this can be pinned on a government.cwhere multiple mps said it takes as long as it takes. It certainly didn't seem they were in a rush to move them onto the barge. Seems to me a civil servant fuck up. No comment on whether it was/wasn’t a Civil Service fuck up (see scenario A and B above). But the rest of your post is naive in the extreme. You do of course understand the concept of plausible deniability? Do you think a Minister saying JFDI would be verbal or written? Do you think there would be an audit trail! Ministers (blue and red) have always said JFDI in pursuit of delivering their pet policies. These things happen via conversations where the ramifications of not delivering are made quite clear. Those “robust conversations” are what lies behind many of the bullying claims. I would expect some evidence of the accusations. This is how society works. When you find that evidence. I am here waiting for it. Of course you do. Modus Operandi. Verbal agreements and plausible deniability is how much works at the level you seem to have little comprehension of. You are quite the miracle aren’t you Morley. In the past fortnight you have shown yourself to be an expert in just about everything. Can’t wait to see you on the conference circuit. When is your TED Talk? I expect you to be an expert in your specialist accountancy area. I think you also worked in gambling fraud or some such? You know your stuff with economics for sure. But you seem to be an expert in climate change, 20th century European history, and now the inner workings and behind the scenes machinations of the UK Govt! Astounding. I don’t care what you think. Anybody who has ever worked in or had close working experience with central govt knows how things actually work. You carry on with the naivety. Not an expert no. Just some one who goes off evidence. When you provide that evidence of your claims. I'll believe you. Like when i waited for farages evidence. Before I said I believed him. Unlike some who dismissed him because eof the eprosn he is. The evidence so far is that the nps were happy to wait. The moment you provide evidence the mps told them to get on with it. We can have that discussion. I await. Re. Climate change. Nope. Not an expert. Some one that reads. And provided evidence , government papers, and links. People here decided to play the man, not the data. So it's not my fault it was never refuted. It's also not my fault that after I made that point that what I said about firms bot taking up solar wind farms came to fruition. Again. Re 20th century history. I merely pointed out the nazi agenda and their actions and tied them.back to what is typically seen as left win politics in centralising most social and economic policies. Again. You couldn't refute this. Ironic you talk about naivity when you are yet to produce 1 shred of evidence on an mp influencing the decision on the barge. I await your evidence. I don’t care what you believe or you demands for evidence for verbal instructions that enable plausible deniability. I have not taken a position regarding the barge. Are you actually reading what is written or just ignoring that and focusing only on what is in your imagination. You were/are wrong about the Nazis but we can leave that to the relevant thread. BTW I forgot that also in the past fortnight you are an expert in immigration, the objectives and mandate if the RNLI, and I suspect pretty much everything else anyone ever posts about. Seriously impressive stuff. " I have actually read the international agreements I quoted. Not copy paste an rnli link. That's the difference. I went directly to the source. I beleive I have made this point continually on here. Don't read headlines, don't velieve what you read on websites. Go directly to the international hreements and read them for yourself? It's a shame you've not taken that on board. And yes. On immigration. After our first titneraction where you denied safe routes ever existed and ate your humble pie when you quote da un official a few months later admitting it. I certainly know more on immigration than yourself. | |||
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"This is the same problem. People had with the " tory giving contracts to mates over covid" There's was NEVER any proof a tory mp ever said JFDI. The contracts are granted by the civil service. Ministers had.bugger all input. Their min input came from.the creation of the vip Lane. Which again was the suggestion of a civil servant at dhsc. The mps changed procurement laws. Again though. I'm not sure how any of this can be pinned on a government.cwhere multiple mps said it takes as long as it takes. It certainly didn't seem they were in a rush to move them onto the barge. Seems to me a civil servant fuck up. No comment on whether it was/wasn’t a Civil Service fuck up (see scenario A and B above). But the rest of your post is naive in the extreme. You do of course understand the concept of plausible deniability? Do you think a Minister saying JFDI would be verbal or written? Do you think there would be an audit trail! Ministers (blue and red) have always said JFDI in pursuit of delivering their pet policies. These things happen via conversations where the ramifications of not delivering are made quite clear. Those “robust conversations” are what lies behind many of the bullying claims. I would expect some evidence of the accusations. This is how society works. When you find that evidence. I am here waiting for it. Of course you do. Modus Operandi. Verbal agreements and plausible deniability is how much works at the level you seem to have little comprehension of. You are quite the miracle aren’t you Morley. In the past fortnight you have shown yourself to be an expert in just about everything. Can’t wait to see you on the conference circuit. When is your TED Talk? I expect you to be an expert in your specialist accountancy area. I think you also worked in gambling fraud or some such? You know your stuff with economics for sure. But you seem to be an expert in climate change, 20th century European history, and now the inner workings and behind the scenes machinations of the UK Govt! Astounding. I don’t care what you think. Anybody who has ever worked in or had close working experience with central govt knows how things actually work. You carry on with the naivety. Not an expert no. Just some one who goes off evidence. When you provide that evidence of your claims. I'll believe you. Like when i waited for farages evidence. Before I said I believed him. Unlike some who dismissed him because eof the eprosn he is. The evidence so far is that the nps were happy to wait. The moment you provide evidence the mps told them to get on with it. We can have that discussion. I await. Re. Climate change. Nope. Not an expert. Some one that reads. And provided evidence , government papers, and links. People here decided to play the man, not the data. So it's not my fault it was never refuted. It's also not my fault that after I made that point that what I said about firms bot taking up solar wind farms came to fruition. Again. Re 20th century history. I merely pointed out the nazi agenda and their actions and tied them.back to what is typically seen as left win politics in centralising most social and economic policies. Again. You couldn't refute this. Ironic you talk about naivity when you are yet to produce 1 shred of evidence on an mp influencing the decision on the barge. I await your evidence. I don’t care what you believe or you demands for evidence for verbal instructions that enable plausible deniability. I have not taken a position regarding the barge. Are you actually reading what is written or just ignoring that and focusing only on what is in your imagination. You were/are wrong about the Nazis but we can leave that to the relevant thread. BTW I forgot that also in the past fortnight you are an expert in immigration, the objectives and mandate if the RNLI, and I suspect pretty much everything else anyone ever posts about. Seriously impressive stuff. I have actually read the international agreements I quoted. Not copy paste an rnli link. That's the difference. I went directly to the source. I beleive I have made this point continually on here. Don't read headlines, don't velieve what you read on websites. Go directly to the international hreements and read them for yourself? It's a shame you've not taken that on board. And yes. On immigration. After our first titneraction where you denied safe routes ever existed and ate your humble pie when you quote da un official a few months later admitting it. I certainly know more on immigration than yourself. " Erm on safe routes - again you try to rewrite history (one of your common approaches on here). I NEVER said safe routes never existed. I said safe routes had been closed and those that existed were restricted to certain countries and categories of people within those countries and that even so, they were still not actually working as intended. The article I posted still supported that statement. Feel free to find that thread and quote me as evidence! You probably do know more on immigration than me. And...? I love it when you say you will apologise or admit a mistake you (in your words) are being “an adult” but when someone else does they are “eating humble pie”. Sounds suspiciously like a superiority complex! | |||
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"Literal responses from the ministers said it would take as long as it takes for all safety checks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66371897 Seems to me the ministers were more than happy to wait. The problem with that link, it wont be read by those that really do need to stretch their minds and widen their views. The alarming thing is they want the government to be the centre of everything, so they have something and someone to blame. If you ever ask for a solution, it will always include the government providing support, 1 dimensional thinking. Some people simply don't understand how management roles work. The mps put into place the practices and its for civil servants to assess when to move them onto the barge. People simply can't comprehend an mp doesn't stand over and personally agree every decision a quango or public service makes. They seem to think mps are the ones who decide ever single benefit claimants viability. " . An excellent post and as usual the voice of reality. During the Covid crisis various posters on here were accusing the government of acting improperly yet could never produce any evidence. Some posters were so eager to criticise the governments procurement procedures that it seemed they would prefer people to die in order that they could blame the government. The civil service are responsible for implementing policies and identifying. risks . Reality seems to escape a lot of posters in here. They prefer to blame the government and ignore the civil service and their gold plated pensions | |||
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"Literal responses from the ministers said it would take as long as it takes for all safety checks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66371897 Seems to me the ministers were more than happy to wait. The problem with that link, it wont be read by those that really do need to stretch their minds and widen their views. The alarming thing is they want the government to be the centre of everything, so they have something and someone to blame. If you ever ask for a solution, it will always include the government providing support, 1 dimensional thinking. Some people simply don't understand how management roles work. The mps put into place the practices and its for civil servants to assess when to move them onto the barge. People simply can't comprehend an mp doesn't stand over and personally agree every decision a quango or public service makes. They seem to think mps are the ones who decide ever single benefit claimants viability. . An excellent post and as usual the voice of reality. During the Covid crisis various posters on here were accusing the government of acting improperly yet could never produce any evidence. Some posters were so eager to criticise the governments procurement procedures that it seemed they would prefer people to die in order that they could blame the government. The civil service are responsible for implementing policies and identifying. risks . Reality seems to escape a lot of posters in here. They prefer to blame the government and ignore the civil service and their gold plated pensions " What about when the government ignore the civil service? | |||
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"Literal responses from the ministers said it would take as long as it takes for all safety checks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66371897 Seems to me the ministers were more than happy to wait. The problem with that link, it wont be read by those that really do need to stretch their minds and widen their views. The alarming thing is they want the government to be the centre of everything, so they have something and someone to blame. If you ever ask for a solution, it will always include the government providing support, 1 dimensional thinking. Some people simply don't understand how management roles work. The mps put into place the practices and its for civil servants to assess when to move them onto the barge. People simply can't comprehend an mp doesn't stand over and personally agree every decision a quango or public service makes. They seem to think mps are the ones who decide ever single benefit claimants viability. . An excellent post and as usual the voice of reality. During the Covid crisis various posters on here were accusing the government of acting improperly yet could never produce any evidence. Some posters were so eager to criticise the governments procurement procedures that it seemed they would prefer people to die in order that they could blame the government. The civil service are responsible for implementing policies and identifying. risks . Reality seems to escape a lot of posters in here. They prefer to blame the government and ignore the civil service and their gold plated pensions " Pat the king of Top Tory Trolling is back on form yay! | |||
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"Literal responses from the ministers said it would take as long as it takes for all safety checks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66371897 Seems to me the ministers were more than happy to wait. The problem with that link, it wont be read by those that really do need to stretch their minds and widen their views. The alarming thing is they want the government to be the centre of everything, so they have something and someone to blame. If you ever ask for a solution, it will always include the government providing support, 1 dimensional thinking. Some people simply don't understand how management roles work. The mps put into place the practices and its for civil servants to assess when to move them onto the barge. People simply can't comprehend an mp doesn't stand over and personally agree every decision a quango or public service makes. They seem to think mps are the ones who decide ever single benefit claimants viability. . An excellent post and as usual the voice of reality. During the Covid crisis various posters on here were accusing the government of acting improperly yet could never produce any evidence. Some posters were so eager to criticise the governments procurement procedures that it seemed they would prefer people to die in order that they could blame the government. The civil service are responsible for implementing policies and identifying. risks . Reality seems to escape a lot of posters in here. They prefer to blame the government and ignore the civil service and their gold plated pensions Pat the king of Top Tory Trolling is back on form yay! " Absolutely savage.  | |||
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"Stop putting them in hotels etc give them tents like the EU do and no money only food and they soon find a better place to move to. Soft touch UK is to blame." Is this true that these people are only given a tent to live in while awaiting their chance to get to the UK? | |||
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"Stop putting them in hotels etc give them tents like the EU do and no money only food and they soon find a better place to move to. Soft touch UK is to blame. Is this true that these people are only given a tent to live in while awaiting their chance to get to the UK? " They are make shift tents made up of anything and everything, and a constant flow of use from vagrants in open border Europe. | |||
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"Stop putting them in hotels etc give them tents like the EU do and no money only food and they soon find a better place to move to. Soft touch UK is to blame. Is this true that these people are only given a tent to live in while awaiting their chance to get to the UK? They are make shift tents made up of anything and everything, and a constant flow of use from vagrants in open border Europe." Shouldn't they be in permanent buildings or even hotels if not enough room. | |||
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"Stop putting them in hotels etc give them tents like the EU do and no money only food and they soon find a better place to move to. Soft touch UK is to blame. Is this true that these people are only given a tent to live in while awaiting their chance to get to the UK? They are make shift tents made up of anything and everything, and a constant flow of use from vagrants in open border Europe. Shouldn't they be in permanent buildings or even hotels if not enough room." You would of thought so being as they are seeking asylum, but they are vagrants bumming about around the eu not seeking asylum. Surely they would of been accommodated in the first safe country they claimed asylum. | |||
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"Stop putting them in hotels etc give them tents like the EU do and no money only food and they soon find a better place to move to. Soft touch UK is to blame. Is this true that these people are only given a tent to live in while awaiting their chance to get to the UK? They are make shift tents made up of anything and everything, and a constant flow of use from vagrants in open border Europe. Shouldn't they be in permanent buildings or even hotels if not enough room. You would have thought so being as they are seeking asylum, but they are vagrants bumming about around the eu not seeking asylum. Surely they would have been accommodated in the first safe country they claimed asylum." There is no requirement to claim asylum in the first safe country. | |||
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"Stop putting them in hotels etc give them tents like the EU do and no money only food and they soon find a better place to move to. Soft touch UK is to blame. Is this true that these people are only given a tent to live in while awaiting their chance to get to the UK? They are make shift tents made up of anything and everything, and a constant flow of use from vagrants in open border Europe. Shouldn't they be in permanent buildings or even hotels if not enough room. You would have thought so being as they are seeking asylum, but they are vagrants bumming about around the eu not seeking asylum. Surely they would have been accommodated in the first safe country they claimed asylum. There is no requirement to claim asylum in the first safe country. " Do you think this goes some way to explaining why criminal gangs and those illegal migrants who enter the uk by small boat are managing to play the system? Here is an idea… should it be a prerequisite that all asylum seekers should register their intentions in terms of where they are going at the first safe country they arrive at? We could then have a quick test at that point, do you have ID, or documentation that allows the UK to identify you?, should that be their destination. If they can prove that , continue, if not record it, take ID fingerprints and photo and pass it on to UK border control. Might cutout some BS on our borders and actually allow swift deportation. | |||
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"Stop putting them in hotels etc give them tents like the EU do and no money only food and they soon find a better place to move to. Soft touch UK is to blame. Is this true that these people are only given a tent to live in while awaiting their chance to get to the UK? They are make shift tents made up of anything and everything, and a constant flow of use from vagrants in open border Europe. Shouldn't they be in permanent buildings or even hotels if not enough room. You would have thought so being as they are seeking asylum, but they are vagrants bumming about around the eu not seeking asylum. Surely they would have been accommodated in the first safe country they claimed asylum. There is no requirement to claim asylum in the first safe country. Do you think this goes some way to explaining why criminal gangs and those illegal migrants who enter the uk by small boat are managing to play the system? Here is an idea… should it be a prerequisite that all asylum seekers should register their intentions in terms of where they are going at the first safe country they arrive at? We could then have a quick test at that point, do you have ID, or documentation that allows the UK to identify you?, should that be their destination. If they can prove that , continue, if not record it, take ID fingerprints and photo and pass it on to UK border control. Might cutout some BS on our borders and actually allow swift deportation. " Sounds sensible | |||
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"Stop putting them in hotels etc give them tents like the EU do and no money only food and they soon find a better place to move to. Soft touch UK is to blame. Is this true that these people are only given a tent to live in while awaiting their chance to get to the UK? They are make shift tents made up of anything and everything, and a constant flow of use from vagrants in open border Europe. Shouldn't they be in permanent buildings or even hotels if not enough room. You would have thought so being as they are seeking asylum, but they are vagrants bumming about around the eu not seeking asylum. Surely they would have been accommodated in the first safe country they claimed asylum. There is no requirement to claim asylum in the first safe country. Do you think this goes some way to explaining why criminal gangs and those illegal migrants who enter the uk by small boat are managing to play the system? Here is an idea… should it be a prerequisite that all asylum seekers should register their intentions in terms of where they are going at the first safe country they arrive at? We could then have a quick test at that point, do you have ID, or documentation that allows the UK to identify you?, should that be their destination. If they can prove that , continue, if not record it, take ID fingerprints and photo and pass it on to UK border control. Might cutout some BS on our borders and actually allow swift deportation. " Decent suggestion in my mind. | |||
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"Stop putting them in hotels etc give them tents like the EU do and no money only food and they soon find a better place to move to. Soft touch UK is to blame. Is this true that these people are only given a tent to live in while awaiting their chance to get to the UK? They are make shift tents made up of anything and everything, and a constant flow of use from vagrants in open border Europe. Shouldn't they be in permanent buildings or even hotels if not enough room. You would of thought so being as they are seeking asylum, but they are vagrants bumming about around the eu not seeking asylum. Surely they would of been accommodated in the first safe country they claimed asylum." As I understand it they can pick and choose which country they want to claim asylum in but whilst awaiting the opportunity why haven't they been given proper shelter. If when they arrive in the UK they are put in the same sort of tented set up that they had in France, would that be acceptable? Could save a lot on hotel bills. Just thinking aloud | |||
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"Stop putting them in hotels etc give them tents like the EU do and no money only food and they soon find a better place to move to. Soft touch UK is to blame. Is this true that these people are only given a tent to live in while awaiting their chance to get to the UK? They are make shift tents made up of anything and everything, and a constant flow of use from vagrants in open border Europe. Shouldn't they be in permanent buildings or even hotels if not enough room. You would have thought so being as they are seeking asylum, but they are vagrants bumming about around the eu not seeking asylum. Surely they would have been accommodated in the first safe country they claimed asylum. There is no requirement to claim asylum in the first safe country. Do you think this goes some way to explaining why criminal gangs and those illegal migrants who enter the uk by small boat are managing to play the system? Here is an idea… should it be a prerequisite that all asylum seekers should register their intentions in terms of where they are going at the first safe country they arrive at? We could then have a quick test at that point, do you have ID, or documentation that allows the UK to identify you?, should that be their destination. If they can prove that , continue, if not record it, take ID fingerprints and photo and pass it on to UK border control. Might cutout some BS on our borders and actually allow swift deportation. Decent suggestion in my mind." I will second that. Hear hear. | |||
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"Stop putting them in hotels etc give them tents like the EU do and no money only food and they soon find a better place to move to. Soft touch UK is to blame. Is this true that these people are only given a tent to live in while awaiting their chance to get to the UK? They are make shift tents made up of anything and everything, and a constant flow of use from vagrants in open border Europe. Shouldn't they be in permanent buildings or even hotels if not enough room. You would have thought so being as they are seeking asylum, but they are vagrants bumming about around the eu not seeking asylum. Surely they would have been accommodated in the first safe country they claimed asylum. There is no requirement to claim asylum in the first safe country. Do you think this goes some way to explaining why criminal gangs and those illegal migrants who enter the uk by small boat are managing to play the system? Here is an idea… should it be a prerequisite that all asylum seekers should register their intentions in terms of where they are going at the first safe country they arrive at? We could then have a quick test at that point, do you have ID, or documentation that allows the UK to identify you?, should that be their destination. If they can prove that , continue, if not record it, take ID fingerprints and photo and pass it on to UK border control. Might cutout some BS on our borders and actually allow swift deportation. " which fake claims are these cutting out? (I can buy this as a solution, I'm just not sure I understand the problem) | |||
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"The government's behaviour shows absolutely zero intention of doing anything to stop the influx of people via illegal crossings. It does show a willingness to allow organisations to profit from the crisis. In addition, it seems those profits are a higher priority than other things such as our state pensions and services." It's not in the interests of the government to do anything. Much more useful as a distraction device to roll out whenever the latest government scandal hits. | |||
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"The government's behaviour shows absolutely zero intention of doing anything to stop the influx of people via illegal crossings. It does show a willingness to allow organisations to profit from the crisis. In addition, it seems those profits are a higher priority than other things such as our state pensions and services." Always follow the money. Nothing like a good crisis to create business opportunities at the taxpayers expense. | |||
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"There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid. They're proven wrong time and again. Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be. It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote..... " Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster! | |||
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"There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid. They're proven wrong time and again. Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be. It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote..... " . Well said. The voice of reality and common sense. Sometimes you need to check your opinions againstaa cross section of society as a whole. | |||
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"That barge will struggle to hold a days worth of people. It's just a smokescreen by the state to placate the masses and stop us breaking out the national razor." What's the national razor? I'm v confused here. | |||
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"There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid. They're proven wrong time and again. Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be. It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote..... * . Well said. The voice of reality and common sense. Sometimes you need to check your opinions againstaa cross section of society as a whole. " ********************************* Thank you for your kind words, really appreciated. We know there are many other rational thinkers on here and, much more importantly, in the country generally. X | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster! "********************************* Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me. Thank you in advance for your understanding. | |||
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"There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid. They're proven wrong time and again. Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be. It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote..... . Well said. The voice of reality and common sense. Sometimes you need to check your opinions againstaa cross section of society as a whole. " Agreed  | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
"You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant. My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. "Come on... Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users 
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. ". It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept . I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread. "Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out. There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter. What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig. Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect  *
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs. "Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it. What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time. I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want? | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?". Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense. It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic"You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times. It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'. Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here "I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley. "See my post to Pat. Years in the making. Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that? Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on. I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite! As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde."If trolling is repeating lines to upset others, I can see a lot of trolling going on here. There are posters who continually post "facts" knowing they are playing the semantic card to get a rise / make a point. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour."I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself. You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.". It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post. Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself . Just as well we live in a free society | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun "I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof? | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?"I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society "So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile? I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again. Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect. "Where in this thread have I piled on? | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on? "I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on. You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke."Your post is simply bizarre. I prefer to live my life in the real world where you interact with real people. Imagine what would happen to you in real life if you called someone a troll. It is very easy to knock out words on a keyboard, how many people would be brave enough to call someone a troll in real life. Just as well there are lots of opportunities to rank opinions against those of real people as opposed to posters on an Internet forum. The press, work colleagues and those with whom you mix on a day to day basis . Supporting the current government hardly makes you a troll. Your statement and correlation is bizarre. Your opinion is one of many . Last time I checked my aligned with the norm . | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke.". At least you have proceed beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke."..At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there. "Lol that’s convenient. I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke. Your post is simply bizarre. I prefer to live my life in the real world where you interact with real people. Imagine what would happen to you in real life if you called someone a troll. It is very easy to knock out words on a keyboard, how many people would be brave enough to call someone a troll in real life.
Just as well there are lots of opportunities to rank opinions against those of real people as opposed to posters on an Internet forum.
The press, work colleagues and those with whom you mix on a day to day basis . Supporting the current government hardly makes you a troll. Your statement and correlation is bizarre. Your opinion is one of many . Last time I checked my aligned with the norm . "I asked a straight question but you couldn’t respond with a straight answer. Just more of the same. That is what has led me, and many others over the years, to conclude you are trolling. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Lol that’s convenient.
I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy "See my first post on the matter. Calling out Eva whilst you regularly engage in similar behaviour is hypocrisy. I didn't say you had in this thread. In fact I said this thread was mild in comparison. Please don't tell me you're now struggling to read. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Lol that’s convenient.
I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy
See my first post on the matter.
Calling out Eva whilst you regularly engage in similar behaviour is hypocrisy. I didn't say you had in this thread.
In fact I said this thread was mild in comparison.
Please don't tell me you're now struggling to read.. So expressing an opinion that differs to yours makes someone a troll. Trully bizarre. Luckily there is television , neighbours , work colleagues , social clubs , churches and charities which give most people the opportunity to mix with others and rank their opinions against the normal. Maybe you should do that more often . An Internet forum such as this is hsrdly a true reflection of what is happening in the world.
I will rely on the electorate and whilst acknowledging your opinion will rank it against what the electorate in general think . Your opinions were firmly defeated in the last four elections. "I’ve asked this before but you didn’t answer. If a majority of the public backed the death penalty, would that make the death penalty ‘right’? | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post "Lol what this one... "There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid. They're proven wrong time and again. Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be. It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote....." So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball. Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable. Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again. I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Lol that’s convenient.
I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy
See my first post on the matter.
Calling out Eva whilst you regularly engage in similar behaviour is hypocrisy. I didn't say you had in this thread.
In fact I said this thread was mild in comparison.
Please don't tell me you're now struggling to read.. So expressing an opinion that differs to yours makes someone a troll. Trully bizarre. Luckily there is television , neighbours , work colleagues , social clubs , churches and charities which give most people the opportunity to mix with others and rank their opinions against the normal. Maybe you should do that more often . An Internet forum such as this is hsrdly a true reflection of what is happening in the world.
I will rely on the electorate and whilst acknowledging your opinion will rank it against what the electorate in general think . Your opinions were firmly defeated in the last four elections.
I’ve asked this before but you didn’t answer.
If a majority of the public backed the death penalty, would that make the death penalty ‘right’?"..Why not answer the question yourself. Most members of the public are aware of various miscarriages of justice so it is highly unlikely to be brought back . | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Lol that’s convenient.
I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy
See my first post on the matter.
Calling out Eva whilst you regularly engage in similar behaviour is hypocrisy. I didn't say you had in this thread.
In fact I said this thread was mild in comparison.
Please don't tell me you're now struggling to read.. So expressing an opinion that differs to yours makes someone a troll. Trully bizarre. Luckily there is television , neighbours , work colleagues , social clubs , churches and charities which give most people the opportunity to mix with others and rank their opinions against the normal. Maybe you should do that more often . An Internet forum such as this is hsrdly a true reflection of what is happening in the world.
I will rely on the electorate and whilst acknowledging your opinion will rank it against what the electorate in general think . Your opinions were firmly defeated in the last four elections.
I’ve asked this before but you didn’t answer.
If a majority of the public backed the death penalty, would that make the death penalty ‘right’?..Why not answer the question yourself. Most members of the public are aware of various miscarriages of justice so it is highly unlikely to be brought back ."Because I want you to answer it. Not me. And it’s not shut how likely or unlikely - I asked you a straight question based upon your posts: If a majority of the public backed the death penalty, would that make the death penalty ‘right’? | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Lol that’s convenient.
I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy
See my first post on the matter.
Calling out Eva whilst you regularly engage in similar behaviour is hypocrisy. I didn't say you had in this thread.
In fact I said this thread was mild in comparison.
Please don't tell me you're now struggling to read."And I have already said I don’t think I do. Show me a thread/posts with personal insults and I will hold my hands up. I certainly gave Morley a hard time re Twitter followers and “significant” and credentials several months back but you will recall that I later apologised twice for the ribbing and have not done it since. I reflected! Anyone else? | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Lol that’s convenient.
I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy
See my first post on the matter.
Calling out Eva whilst you regularly engage in similar behaviour is hypocrisy. I didn't say you had in this thread.
In fact I said this thread was mild in comparison.
Please don't tell me you're now struggling to read.
And I have already said I don’t think I do. Show me a thread/posts with personal insults and I will hold my hands up.
I certainly gave Morley a hard time re Twitter followers and “significant” and credentials several months back but you will recall that I later apologised twice for the ribbing and have not done it since. I reflected!
Anyone else?"In fairness, you also discuss the topics. The person that you are for some weird reason being compared to, rarely comments on the topic and jumps directly attacking the person. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)?"I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked . Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general. You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election . That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum."So you don’t want to answer the question? That’s fine. I understand that the answer might have placed you on a sticky wicket. I haven’t jeered at you for anything, I’ve not mentioned social workers at all. Try not to invent things. (Also 43% of the electorate is not the same as 43% of society, but of course you know that) | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Lol that’s convenient.
I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy
See my first post on the matter.
Calling out Eva whilst you regularly engage in similar behaviour is hypocrisy. I didn't say you had in this thread.
In fact I said this thread was mild in comparison.
Please don't tell me you're now struggling to read.. So expressing an opinion that differs to yours makes someone a troll. Trully bizarre. Luckily there is television , neighbours , work colleagues , social clubs , churches and charities which give most people the opportunity to mix with others and rank their opinions against the normal. Maybe you should do that more often . An Internet forum such as this is hsrdly a true reflection of what is happening in the world.
I will rely on the electorate and whilst acknowledging your opinion will rank it against what the electorate in general think . Your opinions were firmly defeated in the last four elections.
I’ve asked this before but you didn’t answer.
If a majority of the public backed the death penalty, would that make the death penalty ‘right’?..Why not answer the question yourself. Most members of the public are aware of various miscarriages of justice so it is highly unlikely to be brought back .
Because I want you to answer it. Not me. And it’s not shut how likely or unlikely - I asked you a straight question based upon your posts:
If a majority of the public backed the death penalty, would that make the death penalty ‘right’?
". Another Bizzare post. By my comments I have already answered the question . I will leave you to express your opinion should you wish | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum."No straight answer then? As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
So you don’t want to answer the question? That’s fine. I understand that the answer might have placed you on a sticky wicket.
I haven’t jeered at you for anything, I’ve not mentioned social workers at all. Try not to invent things.
(Also 43% of the electorate is not the same as 43% of society, but of course you know that)". Apologies. Replied to the wrong person. Another poster mentioned social workers . So apologies | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened."I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory. "What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order. I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.". Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars . I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.. Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars .
I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre "So you make an accusation against me that you cannot support. The onus is on you to provide evidence or retract the comment. Just admit it Pat, you made it up and are lying about me saying anything disparaging in relation to social workers. If we met in the real world then I doubt very much you would accuse me of something you could not support. I will await your apology | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.. Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars .
I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre
So you make an accusation against me that you cannot support. The onus is on you to provide evidence or retract the comment. Just admit it Pat, you made it up and are lying about me saying anything disparaging in relation to social workers. If we met in the real world then I doubt very much you would accuse me of something you could not support.
I will await your apology ". You are the person who wants the evidence . If that is the case go back through your posts and you will find it. Why should I do the work on your behalf. ? You made the request, not me . It is a pity your parents did not teach your manners. Few people would call someone a liar and even fewer without evidence. Your post has become detached from reality . Just as well that out in the real world people can express opinions and facts without being called liars . Different people will intpret data in different ways . I rank my opinions against that of society as a whole. It has always worked perfectly for me. The last four election results tend to reinforce that. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.. Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars .
I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre
So you make an accusation against me that you cannot support. The onus is on you to provide evidence or retract the comment. Just admit it Pat, you made it up and are lying about me saying anything disparaging in relation to social workers. If we met in the real world then I doubt very much you would accuse me of something you could not support.
I will await your apology . You are the person who wants the evidence . If that is the case go back through your posts and you will find it. Why should I do the work on your behalf. ? You made the request, not me . It is a pity your parents did not teach your manners. Few people would call someone a liar and even fewer without evidence.
Your post has become detached from reality . Just as well that out in the real world people can express opinions and facts without being called liars . Different people will intpret data in different ways . I rank my opinions against that of society as a whole. It has always worked perfectly for me. The last four election results tend to reinforce that. "We have officially entered the Twilight Zone. YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said: "You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis" If you are making an accusation then you need to be able to back that up with evidence. The simple fact that you can’t or won’t means your accusation is baseless. That would indicate someone lying. What’s worse was the way you worded that point to imply the “sneer” was something to do with the social workers rather than you. In the real world that is only a step away from slander. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Lol that’s convenient.
I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy
See my first post on the matter.
Calling out Eva whilst you regularly engage in similar behaviour is hypocrisy. I didn't say you had in this thread.
In fact I said this thread was mild in comparison.
Please don't tell me you're now struggling to read.
And I have already said I don’t think I do. Show me a thread/posts with personal insults and I will hold my hands up.
I certainly gave Morley a hard time re Twitter followers and “significant” and credentials several months back but you will recall that I later apologised twice for the ribbing and have not done it since. I reflected!
Anyone else?"You regularly involve yourself in 'pile ons' with others I have already stated. I'm not sure why you want me to name people again. I'll call you on it if I see it, just as I'm happy to call others on it. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Lol that’s convenient.
I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy
See my first post on the matter.
Calling out Eva whilst you regularly engage in similar behaviour is hypocrisy. I didn't say you had in this thread.
In fact I said this thread was mild in comparison.
Please don't tell me you're now struggling to read.
And I have already said I don’t think I do. Show me a thread/posts with personal insults and I will hold my hands up.
I certainly gave Morley a hard time re Twitter followers and “significant” and credentials several months back but you will recall that I later apologised twice for the ribbing and have not done it since. I reflected!
Anyone else?
You regularly involve yourself in 'pile ons' with others I have already stated. I'm not sure why you want me to name people again.
I'll call you on it if I see it, just as I'm happy to call others on it.
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Lol that’s convenient.
I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy
See my first post on the matter.
Calling out Eva whilst you regularly engage in similar behaviour is hypocrisy. I didn't say you had in this thread.
In fact I said this thread was mild in comparison.
Please don't tell me you're now struggling to read.
And I have already said I don’t think I do. Show me a thread/posts with personal insults and I will hold my hands up.
I certainly gave Morley a hard time re Twitter followers and “significant” and credentials several months back but you will recall that I later apologised twice for the ribbing and have not done it since. I reflected!
Anyone else?
You regularly involve yourself in 'pile ons' with others I have already stated. I'm not sure why you want me to name people again.
I'll call you on it if I see it, just as I'm happy to call others on it.
Do I pile on or do I ask further questions and expand on points being discussed? I would say they are different. Look back at the post that sparked all of this. Do I post similar types of posts?"If I'm honest, I feel like we will just go round in circles. If you want reflective posting like you asked for then I'll provide it in future but I genuinely don't think you're interested. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic
You definitely didn't need to be ironic, as I pointed out, we all do it at times.
It's a shame that you feel you're above the rest of us and don't want to accept that you've regularly engaged. That tells me you don't want to 'self-reflect'.
Johnny regularly trolls but I never see you having anything to say about it like you do Pat, Discretion or Morley.
See my post to Pat. Years in the making.
Discretion tried to argue with me over the Nazis and we exchanged a 1:1 discussion. I did call h out on that a couple of times subsequently. That is not a pile on. Other than that?
Morley and I regularly disagree on much but not everything. I have tried to have discussions but the tone of the posts often see me reflect that back. Again though, that is 1:1 for the most part rather than a pile on.
I don’t think I am better than others and I am happy for my mistakes to be pointed out. I’m a big boy and can take criticism. So please do point it out when you see it. Would hate to be a hypocrite!
As this thread is starting to feel like people are being defensive it means I have held a mirror up to the behaviour.
I don't think the thread is getting defensive. I've called out hypocrisy. You don't like it and are now trying (unsuccessfully imo) to defend yourself.
You spoke of reflecting but doesn't feel like you're willing to. I'm off back to chilling in the sun
I stand by what I said. I don’t need to defend myself. Am happy for you to point it out when you see it and then I can reflect until then...Where’s the proof?
I already have pointed it out in this thread
Now you resort to 'where's your proof', as if I'm gonna go find it, I definitely can't be arsed doing that.
You standing is admirable but don't ask for 'reflective posting' if you're unwilling to actually reflect.
Where in this thread have I piled on?
I pointed out the hypocrisy in this thread, not a pile on.
You don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Lol that’s convenient.
I call out people who regularly pile on. You say I am a hypocrite but are not saying I pile on? You’re right I am not seeing the hypocrisy
See my first post on the matter.
Calling out Eva whilst you regularly engage in similar behaviour is hypocrisy. I didn't say you had in this thread.
In fact I said this thread was mild in comparison.
Please don't tell me you're now struggling to read.
And I have already said I don’t think I do. Show me a thread/posts with personal insults and I will hold my hands up.
I certainly gave Morley a hard time re Twitter followers and “significant” and credentials several months back but you will recall that I later apologised twice for the ribbing and have not done it since. I reflected!
Anyone else?
You regularly involve yourself in 'pile ons' with others I have already stated. I'm not sure why you want me to name people again.
I'll call you on it if I see it, just as I'm happy to call others on it.
Do I pile on or do I ask further questions and expand on points being discussed? I would say they are different. Look back at the post that sparked all of this. Do I post similar types of posts?
If I'm honest, I feel like we will just go round in circles. If you want reflective posting like you asked for then I'll provide it in future but I genuinely don't think you're interested. "Oh I genuinely am but until it happens and you can demonstrate a real example (that is a pile on that focuses on the poster rather than asking more questions on the topic being discussed or providing other info that either supports or challenges) then I am not sure what I tend to do is fully comparable. Happy to learn! | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.. Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars .
I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre
So you make an accusation against me that you cannot support. The onus is on you to provide evidence or retract the comment. Just admit it Pat, you made it up and are lying about me saying anything disparaging in relation to social workers. If we met in the real world then I doubt very much you would accuse me of something you could not support.
I will await your apology . You are the person who wants the evidence . If that is the case go back through your posts and you will find it. Why should I do the work on your behalf. ? You made the request, not me . It is a pity your parents did not teach your manners. Few people would call someone a liar and even fewer without evidence.
Your post has become detached from reality . Just as well that out in the real world people can express opinions and facts without being called liars . Different people will intpret data in different ways . I rank my opinions against that of society as a whole. It has always worked perfectly for me. The last four election results tend to reinforce that.
We have officially entered the Twilight Zone.
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
If you are making an accusation then you need to be able to back that up with evidence.
The simple fact that you can’t or won’t means your accusation is baseless. That would indicate someone lying. What’s worse was the way you worded that point to imply the “sneer” was something to do with the social workers rather than you. In the real world that is only a step away from slander.". I will stick to what actually happens in the real world but thank you for your guidance and advice. Not many people resort to calling someone a liar. A forum such as this is simply a bizarre place to do it. It seems that the only opinions which you think that matter are yours. Out in the real world there are a wide variety of opinions and I do not see many people jeering or making sarcastic remarks about them . You are entering a fantasy world when you start mentioning slander on a forum such as this. Maybe time for a reality check and concentrate on what happens in the real world. The work undertaken by care workers and social workers in terms of importance vastly exceeds the opinions expressed by one or two posters on these forums. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.. Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars .
I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre
So you make an accusation against me that you cannot support. The onus is on you to provide evidence or retract the comment. Just admit it Pat, you made it up and are lying about me saying anything disparaging in relation to social workers. If we met in the real world then I doubt very much you would accuse me of something you could not support.
I will await your apology . You are the person who wants the evidence . If that is the case go back through your posts and you will find it. Why should I do the work on your behalf. ? You made the request, not me . It is a pity your parents did not teach your manners. Few people would call someone a liar and even fewer without evidence.
Your post has become detached from reality . Just as well that out in the real world people can express opinions and facts without being called liars . Different people will intpret data in different ways . I rank my opinions against that of society as a whole. It has always worked perfectly for me. The last four election results tend to reinforce that.
We have officially entered the Twilight Zone.
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
If you are making an accusation then you need to be able to back that up with evidence.
The simple fact that you can’t or won’t means your accusation is baseless. That would indicate someone lying. What’s worse was the way you worded that point to imply the “sneer” was something to do with the social workers rather than you. In the real world that is only a step away from slander.. I will stick to what actually happens in the real world but thank you for your guidance and advice. Not many people resort to calling someone a liar. A forum such as this is simply a bizarre place to do it. It seems that the only opinions which you think that matter are yours. Out in the real world there are a wide variety of opinions and I do not see many people jeering or making sarcastic remarks about them . You are entering a fantasy world when you start mentioning slander on a forum such as this. Maybe time for a reality check and concentrate on what happens in the real world.
The work undertaken by care workers and social workers in terms of importance vastly exceeds the opinions expressed by one or two posters on these forums. "Oh I 100% agree with your last paragraph. Why do you feel the need to say that? Why is it relevant? As a reminder... YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said: "You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis" But you cannot prove I did and I say I didn’t! Remember innocent until proven guilty under the law in the UK. In the real world any rational person can understand that. You have no evidence so I say you are lying. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster! Another bizarre comment about innocent into proved guilty . Maybe you need to diffeniate beteeen what happens
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.. Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars .
I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre
So you make an accusation against me that you cannot support. The onus is on you to provide evidence or retract the comment. Just admit it Pat, you made it up and are lying about me saying anything disparaging in relation to social workers. If we met in the real world then I doubt very much you would accuse me of something you could not support.
I will await your apology . You are the person who wants the evidence . If that is the case go back through your posts and you will find it. Why should I do the work on your behalf. ? You made the request, not me . It is a pity your parents did not teach your manners. Few people would call someone a liar and even fewer without evidence.
Your post has become detached from reality . Just as well that out in the real world people can express opinions and facts without being called liars . Different people will intpret data in different ways . I rank my opinions against that of society as a whole. It has always worked perfectly for me. The last four election results tend to reinforce that.
We have officially entered the Twilight Zone.
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
If you are making an accusation then you need to be able to back that up with evidence.
The simple fact that you can’t or won’t means your accusation is baseless. That would indicate someone lying. What’s worse was the way you worded that point to imply the “sneer” was something to do with the social workers rather than you. In the real world that is only a step away from slander.. I will stick to what actually happens in the real world but thank you for your guidance and advice. Not many people resort to calling someone a liar. A forum such as this is simply a bizarre place to do it. It seems that the only opinions which you think that matter are yours. Out in the real world there are a wide variety of opinions and I do not see many people jeering or making sarcastic remarks about them . You are entering a fantasy world when you start mentioning slander on a forum such as this. Maybe time for a reality check and concentrate on what happens in the real world.
The work undertaken by care workers and social workers in terms of importance vastly exceeds the opinions expressed by one or two posters on these forums.
Oh I 100% agree with your last paragraph. Why do you feel the need to say that? Why is it relevant?
As a reminder...
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
But you cannot prove I did and I say I didn’t! Remember innocent until proven guilty under the law in the UK. In the real world any rational person can understand that. You have no evidence so I say you are lying. "Maybe you need to differentiate between Courts of Law and what happens in daily life. Civil Courts tend to be full of barristers and solicitors who are simply out to line their own pockets . The are hardly a virtue of integrity and honesty. You have access all your posts and if the issue was important you would be able to locate it. I will benchmark mark my opinions against those of the general public. If expressing an opinion makes someone a liar in your eyes I can live with that. The crucial benchmark is what happens in real life , not the fantasy world of the internet forum . I am very greatfull to Emma for opening this discussion some of the ideas expressed on her are bizarre . He made an excellent summary when comparing what some people post on here compared to what happens in real life. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster! Another bizarre comment about innocent into proved guilty . Maybe you need to diffeniate beteeen what happens
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.. Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars .
I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre
So you make an accusation against me that you cannot support. The onus is on you to provide evidence or retract the comment. Just admit it Pat, you made it up and are lying about me saying anything disparaging in relation to social workers. If we met in the real world then I doubt very much you would accuse me of something you could not support.
I will await your apology . You are the person who wants the evidence . If that is the case go back through your posts and you will find it. Why should I do the work on your behalf. ? You made the request, not me . It is a pity your parents did not teach your manners. Few people would call someone a liar and even fewer without evidence.
Your post has become detached from reality . Just as well that out in the real world people can express opinions and facts without being called liars . Different people will intpret data in different ways . I rank my opinions against that of society as a whole. It has always worked perfectly for me. The last four election results tend to reinforce that.
We have officially entered the Twilight Zone.
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
If you are making an accusation then you need to be able to back that up with evidence.
The simple fact that you can’t or won’t means your accusation is baseless. That would indicate someone lying. What’s worse was the way you worded that point to imply the “sneer” was something to do with the social workers rather than you. In the real world that is only a step away from slander.. I will stick to what actually happens in the real world but thank you for your guidance and advice. Not many people resort to calling someone a liar. A forum such as this is simply a bizarre place to do it. It seems that the only opinions which you think that matter are yours. Out in the real world there are a wide variety of opinions and I do not see many people jeering or making sarcastic remarks about them . You are entering a fantasy world when you start mentioning slander on a forum such as this. Maybe time for a reality check and concentrate on what happens in the real world.
The work undertaken by care workers and social workers in terms of importance vastly exceeds the opinions expressed by one or two posters on these forums.
Oh I 100% agree with your last paragraph. Why do you feel the need to say that? Why is it relevant?
As a reminder...
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
But you cannot prove I did and I say I didn’t! Remember innocent until proven guilty under the law in the UK. In the real world any rational person can understand that. You have no evidence so I say you are lying. Maybe you need to differentiate between Courts of Law and what happens in daily life. Civil Courts tend to be full of barristers and solicitors who are simply out to line their own pockets . The are hardly a virtue of integrity and honesty. You have access all your posts and if the issue was important you would be able to locate it. I will benchmark mark my opinions against those of the general public. If expressing an opinion makes someone a liar in your eyes I can live with that. The crucial benchmark is what happens in real life , not the fantasy world of the internet forum .
I am very greatfull to Emma for opening this discussion some of the ideas expressed on her are bizarre . He made an excellent summary when comparing what some people post on here compared to what happens in real life. "Whoah another weirdly tangential post. You are consistent if nothing else! Who is Emma? Did you mean Eva? Do you know if Eva prefers to be referenced as a he, her, they? So you accuse me of something but cannot or will not prove it. Ok Pat thanks for confirming you lied about the thing you accused me of. It was clearly a load of old tosh. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster! Another bizarre comment about innocent into proved guilty . Maybe you need to diffeniate beteeen what happens
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.. Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars .
I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre
So you make an accusation against me that you cannot support. The onus is on you to provide evidence or retract the comment. Just admit it Pat, you made it up and are lying about me saying anything disparaging in relation to social workers. If we met in the real world then I doubt very much you would accuse me of something you could not support.
I will await your apology . You are the person who wants the evidence . If that is the case go back through your posts and you will find it. Why should I do the work on your behalf. ? You made the request, not me . It is a pity your parents did not teach your manners. Few people would call someone a liar and even fewer without evidence.
Your post has become detached from reality . Just as well that out in the real world people can express opinions and facts without being called liars . Different people will intpret data in different ways . I rank my opinions against that of society as a whole. It has always worked perfectly for me. The last four election results tend to reinforce that.
We have officially entered the Twilight Zone.
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
If you are making an accusation then you need to be able to back that up with evidence.
The simple fact that you can’t or won’t means your accusation is baseless. That would indicate someone lying. What’s worse was the way you worded that point to imply the “sneer” was something to do with the social workers rather than you. In the real world that is only a step away from slander.. I will stick to what actually happens in the real world but thank you for your guidance and advice. Not many people resort to calling someone a liar. A forum such as this is simply a bizarre place to do it. It seems that the only opinions which you think that matter are yours. Out in the real world there are a wide variety of opinions and I do not see many people jeering or making sarcastic remarks about them . You are entering a fantasy world when you start mentioning slander on a forum such as this. Maybe time for a reality check and concentrate on what happens in the real world.
The work undertaken by care workers and social workers in terms of importance vastly exceeds the opinions expressed by one or two posters on these forums.
Oh I 100% agree with your last paragraph. Why do you feel the need to say that? Why is it relevant?
As a reminder...
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
But you cannot prove I did and I say I didn’t! Remember innocent until proven guilty under the law in the UK. In the real world any rational person can understand that. You have no evidence so I say you are lying. Maybe you need to differentiate between Courts of Law and what happens in daily life. Civil Courts tend to be full of barristers and solicitors who are simply out to line their own pockets . The are hardly a virtue of integrity and honesty. You have access all your posts and if the issue was important you would be able to locate it. I will benchmark mark my opinions against those of the general public. If expressing an opinion makes someone a liar in your eyes I can live with that. The crucial benchmark is what happens in real life , not the fantasy world of the internet forum .
I am very greatfull to Emma for opening this discussion some of the ideas expressed on her are bizarre . He made an excellent summary when comparing what some people post on here compared to what happens in real life.
Whoah another weirdly tangential post. You are consistent if nothing else!
Who is Emma? Did you mean Eva? Do you know if Eva prefers to be referenced as a he, her, they?
So you accuse me of something but cannot or will not prove it. Ok Pat thanks for confirming you lied about the thing you accused me of. It was clearly a load of old tosh. ". Another Bizarre post . You have still failed to retrieve or copy the post to which you refer. Maybe time for a reality check for you. I think I will rely on what the electorate think, not what you choose to post on here. Election results give a fairly good view of what society think in general. It seems that you have difficulty in accepting that. . | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster! Another bizarre comment about innocent into proved guilty . Maybe you need to diffeniate beteeen what happens
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.. Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars .
I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre
So you make an accusation against me that you cannot support. The onus is on you to provide evidence or retract the comment. Just admit it Pat, you made it up and are lying about me saying anything disparaging in relation to social workers. If we met in the real world then I doubt very much you would accuse me of something you could not support.
I will await your apology . You are the person who wants the evidence . If that is the case go back through your posts and you will find it. Why should I do the work on your behalf. ? You made the request, not me . It is a pity your parents did not teach your manners. Few people would call someone a liar and even fewer without evidence.
Your post has become detached from reality . Just as well that out in the real world people can express opinions and facts without being called liars . Different people will intpret data in different ways . I rank my opinions against that of society as a whole. It has always worked perfectly for me. The last four election results tend to reinforce that.
We have officially entered the Twilight Zone.
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
If you are making an accusation then you need to be able to back that up with evidence.
The simple fact that you can’t or won’t means your accusation is baseless. That would indicate someone lying. What’s worse was the way you worded that point to imply the “sneer” was something to do with the social workers rather than you. In the real world that is only a step away from slander.. I will stick to what actually happens in the real world but thank you for your guidance and advice. Not many people resort to calling someone a liar. A forum such as this is simply a bizarre place to do it. It seems that the only opinions which you think that matter are yours. Out in the real world there are a wide variety of opinions and I do not see many people jeering or making sarcastic remarks about them . You are entering a fantasy world when you start mentioning slander on a forum such as this. Maybe time for a reality check and concentrate on what happens in the real world.
The work undertaken by care workers and social workers in terms of importance vastly exceeds the opinions expressed by one or two posters on these forums.
Oh I 100% agree with your last paragraph. Why do you feel the need to say that? Why is it relevant?
As a reminder...
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
But you cannot prove I did and I say I didn’t! Remember innocent until proven guilty under the law in the UK. In the real world any rational person can understand that. You have no evidence so I say you are lying. Maybe you need to differentiate between Courts of Law and what happens in daily life. Civil Courts tend to be full of barristers and solicitors who are simply out to line their own pockets . The are hardly a virtue of integrity and honesty. You have access all your posts and if the issue was important you would be able to locate it. I will benchmark mark my opinions against those of the general public. If expressing an opinion makes someone a liar in your eyes I can live with that. The crucial benchmark is what happens in real life , not the fantasy world of the internet forum .
I am very greatfull to Emma for opening this discussion some of the ideas expressed on her are bizarre . He made an excellent summary when comparing what some people post on here compared to what happens in real life.
Whoah another weirdly tangential post. You are consistent if nothing else!
Who is Emma? Did you mean Eva? Do you know if Eva prefers to be referenced as a he, her, they?
So you accuse me of something but cannot or will not prove it. Ok Pat thanks for confirming you lied about the thing you accused me of. It was clearly a load of old tosh. . Another Bizarre post . You have still failed to retrieve or copy the post to which you refer. Maybe time for a reality check for you. I think I will rely on what the electorate think, not what you choose to post on here. Election results give a fairly good view of what society think in general. It seems that you have difficulty in accepting that. . "There was an election about what you post on fab, and how you misgender people? I didn't get a vote. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster! Another bizarre comment about innocent into proved guilty . Maybe you need to diffeniate beteeen what happens
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.. Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars .
I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre
So you make an accusation against me that you cannot support. The onus is on you to provide evidence or retract the comment. Just admit it Pat, you made it up and are lying about me saying anything disparaging in relation to social workers. If we met in the real world then I doubt very much you would accuse me of something you could not support.
I will await your apology . You are the person who wants the evidence . If that is the case go back through your posts and you will find it. Why should I do the work on your behalf. ? You made the request, not me . It is a pity your parents did not teach your manners. Few people would call someone a liar and even fewer without evidence.
Your post has become detached from reality . Just as well that out in the real world people can express opinions and facts without being called liars . Different people will intpret data in different ways . I rank my opinions against that of society as a whole. It has always worked perfectly for me. The last four election results tend to reinforce that.
We have officially entered the Twilight Zone.
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
If you are making an accusation then you need to be able to back that up with evidence.
The simple fact that you can’t or won’t means your accusation is baseless. That would indicate someone lying. What’s worse was the way you worded that point to imply the “sneer” was something to do with the social workers rather than you. In the real world that is only a step away from slander.. I will stick to what actually happens in the real world but thank you for your guidance and advice. Not many people resort to calling someone a liar. A forum such as this is simply a bizarre place to do it. It seems that the only opinions which you think that matter are yours. Out in the real world there are a wide variety of opinions and I do not see many people jeering or making sarcastic remarks about them . You are entering a fantasy world when you start mentioning slander on a forum such as this. Maybe time for a reality check and concentrate on what happens in the real world.
The work undertaken by care workers and social workers in terms of importance vastly exceeds the opinions expressed by one or two posters on these forums.
Oh I 100% agree with your last paragraph. Why do you feel the need to say that? Why is it relevant?
As a reminder...
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
But you cannot prove I did and I say I didn’t! Remember innocent until proven guilty under the law in the UK. In the real world any rational person can understand that. You have no evidence so I say you are lying. Maybe you need to differentiate between Courts of Law and what happens in daily life. Civil Courts tend to be full of barristers and solicitors who are simply out to line their own pockets . The are hardly a virtue of integrity and honesty. You have access all your posts and if the issue was important you would be able to locate it. I will benchmark mark my opinions against those of the general public. If expressing an opinion makes someone a liar in your eyes I can live with that. The crucial benchmark is what happens in real life , not the fantasy world of the internet forum .
I am very greatfull to Emma for opening this discussion some of the ideas expressed on her are bizarre . He made an excellent summary when comparing what some people post on here compared to what happens in real life.
Whoah another weirdly tangential post. You are consistent if nothing else!
Who is Emma? Did you mean Eva? Do you know if Eva prefers to be referenced as a he, her, they?
So you accuse me of something but cannot or will not prove it. Ok Pat thanks for confirming you lied about the thing you accused me of. It was clearly a load of old tosh. . Another Bizarre post . You have still failed to retrieve or copy the post to which you refer. Maybe time for a reality check for you. I think I will rely on what the electorate think, not what you choose to post on here. Election results give a fairly good view of what society think in general. It seems that you have difficulty in accepting that. .
There was an election about what you post on fab, and how you misgender people?
I didn't get a vote. ". Everyone who registered to vote had an opportunity to vote in the 2019 election . The result is self explanatory. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster! Another bizarre comment about innocent into proved guilty . Maybe you need to diffeniate beteeen what happens
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)? I was unaware that posters were accountable to you and must ask any question asked .
Luckily every day of the week I have sense checked my thoughts and opinions against that of society in general. Watching the news, reading the press , speaking to social workers , going to shops daily, driving many miles a week and having regular contact with young Europeans givens a much better reflection of what is happening in society in general.
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
I will use the criteria above to rank what others think of my opinions and rank them against society in general
It would seem that they are acceptable to at least 43 % of society . You opinions and ideas were firmly defeated in the last election .
That is life in the real world when you obtain feedback from real people , not posters on an Internet forum.
No straight answer then?
As for “jeer at you” show me? Quote it? I may not have believed you based on the type of posts you have posted for several years now, but jeered at you? I don’t think so. That is called gaslighting Pat. You are trying to rewrite what actually happened. I mentioned social workers and you made a rather derogatory comment in your reply. You are of course entitled to do that. You track record of comments against posters with whom you disagree is self explanatory.
What did I say Pat? Quote me (with context). If you can’t we’ll have to conclude you are lying but if you can then I will be able to see if I was out of order.
I seem to recall ribbing you that you always seem to have rather convenient anecdotes.. Another Bizarre request and comment . No rational person is going to start going back through their posts in order to isolate a particular comment. There is a legal requirement to keep some documents such as gas safety certificates or EICRs . I never heard of any requirement to keep copies of posts on here . You made the comment and if you are so keen to find it search for it yourself. So now because someone does not go back and identify a post you call them liars .
I prefer to live in the real world. Why would anyone want to back track on posts they made on here .Trully bizarre
So you make an accusation against me that you cannot support. The onus is on you to provide evidence or retract the comment. Just admit it Pat, you made it up and are lying about me saying anything disparaging in relation to social workers. If we met in the real world then I doubt very much you would accuse me of something you could not support.
I will await your apology . You are the person who wants the evidence . If that is the case go back through your posts and you will find it. Why should I do the work on your behalf. ? You made the request, not me . It is a pity your parents did not teach your manners. Few people would call someone a liar and even fewer without evidence.
Your post has become detached from reality . Just as well that out in the real world people can express opinions and facts without being called liars . Different people will intpret data in different ways . I rank my opinions against that of society as a whole. It has always worked perfectly for me. The last four election results tend to reinforce that.
We have officially entered the Twilight Zone.
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
If you are making an accusation then you need to be able to back that up with evidence.
The simple fact that you can’t or won’t means your accusation is baseless. That would indicate someone lying. What’s worse was the way you worded that point to imply the “sneer” was something to do with the social workers rather than you. In the real world that is only a step away from slander.. I will stick to what actually happens in the real world but thank you for your guidance and advice. Not many people resort to calling someone a liar. A forum such as this is simply a bizarre place to do it. It seems that the only opinions which you think that matter are yours. Out in the real world there are a wide variety of opinions and I do not see many people jeering or making sarcastic remarks about them . You are entering a fantasy world when you start mentioning slander on a forum such as this. Maybe time for a reality check and concentrate on what happens in the real world.
The work undertaken by care workers and social workers in terms of importance vastly exceeds the opinions expressed by one or two posters on these forums.
Oh I 100% agree with your last paragraph. Why do you feel the need to say that? Why is it relevant?
As a reminder...
YOU accused ME of jeering at you when you said:
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
But you cannot prove I did and I say I didn’t! Remember innocent until proven guilty under the law in the UK. In the real world any rational person can understand that. You have no evidence so I say you are lying. Maybe you need to differentiate between Courts of Law and what happens in daily life. Civil Courts tend to be full of barristers and solicitors who are simply out to line their own pockets . The are hardly a virtue of integrity and honesty. You have access all your posts and if the issue was important you would be able to locate it. I will benchmark mark my opinions against those of the general public. If expressing an opinion makes someone a liar in your eyes I can live with that. The crucial benchmark is what happens in real life , not the fantasy world of the internet forum .
I am very greatfull to Emma for opening this discussion some of the ideas expressed on her are bizarre . He made an excellent summary when comparing what some people post on here compared to what happens in real life.
Whoah another weirdly tangential post. You are consistent if nothing else!
Who is Emma? Did you mean Eva? Do you know if Eva prefers to be referenced as a he, her, they?
So you accuse me of something but cannot or will not prove it. Ok Pat thanks for confirming you lied about the thing you accused me of. It was clearly a load of old tosh. . Another Bizarre post . You have still failed to retrieve or copy the post to which you refer. Maybe time for a reality check for you. I think I will rely on what the electorate think, not what you choose to post on here. Election results give a fairly good view of what society think in general. It seems that you have difficulty in accepting that. .
There was an election about what you post on fab, and how you misgender people?
I didn't get a vote. . Everyone who registered to vote had an opportunity to vote in the 2019 election . The result is self explanatory. "I had a quick check. Conservatives - 365 seats Labour - 202 seats SNP - 48 seats lib Dems - 11 seats DUP - 8 seats Sinn Féin - 7 seats Plaid Cymru - 4 seats SD&LP - 2 seats Greens - 1 seat Alliance - 1 seat Speaker - 1 seat Pat's waffle on Fab - zero. | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting "How many constitutes a 'pile on'? I ask because there's now 3 people going at Pat. Yourself, one who asked a bizarre question which has nothing to do with the thread and one who jump straight to personal. I haven't seen you call it out yet | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting ". Another trully bizarre post. Most people simply accept that a general election result is a reflection of public opinion and the effectiveness of a marketing campaign. You are now calling a poster a liar but are unable to produce a single piece of evidence to support your point. You simply made a statement that a poster was lying . Apart from it being extremely ill mannered to make such a post maybe you should have produced some evidence to prove your point. I am hardly going yo download every bit of contact with care workers or social services. Maybe before posting you should investigate in a bit more detail the systems used by social and care workers to document what they do. At least they are providing a valuable servive to the public. Does your post provide a service to the public. ? | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election??????Maybe you should stop telling porkies Pat Completely bonkers posting . Another trully bizarre post. Most people simply accept that a general election result is a reflection of public opinion and the effectiveness of a marketing campaign. You are now calling a poster a liar but are unable to produce a single piece of evidence to support your point. You simply made a statement that a poster was lying . Apart from it being extremely ill mannered to make such a post maybe you should have produced some evidence to prove your point. I am hardly going yo download every bit of contact with care workers or social services.
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election??????Maybe you should stop telling porkies Pat Completely bonkers posting . Another trully bizarre post. Most people simply accept that a general election result is a reflection of public opinion and the effectiveness of a marketing campaign. You are now calling a poster a liar but are unable to produce a single piece of evidence to support your point. You simply made a statement that a poster was lying . Apart from it being extremely ill mannered to make such a post maybe you should have produced some evidence to prove your point. I am hardly going yo download every bit of contact with care workers or social services.
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election??????Maybe you should stop telling porkies Pat Completely bonkers posting . Another trully bizarre post. Most people simply accept that a general election result is a reflection of public opinion and the effectiveness of a marketing campaign. You are now calling a poster a liar but are unable to produce a single piece of evidence to support your point. You simply made a statement that a poster was lying . Apart from it being extremely ill mannered to make such a post maybe you should have produced some evidence to prove your point. I am hardly going yo download every bit of contact with care workers or social services.
Maybe before posting you should investigate in a bit more detail the systems used by social and care workers to document what they do.
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting
How many constitutes a 'pile on'?
I ask because there's now 3 people going at Pat.
Yourself, one who asked a bizarre question which has nothing to do with the thread and one who jump straight to personal.
I haven't seen you call it out yet "I was here first so cannot pile on. Pat accused me of something that was not true. So I let it go? | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting . Another trully bizarre post. Most people simply accept that a general election result is a reflection of public opinion and the effectiveness of a marketing campaign. You are now calling a poster a liar but are unable to produce a single piece of evidence to support your point. You simply made a statement that a poster was lying . Apart from it being extremely ill mannered to make such a post maybe you should have produced some evidence to prove your point. I am hardly going yo download every bit of contact with care workers or social services.
Maybe before posting you should investigate in a bit more detail the systems used by social and care workers to document what they do.
At least they are providing a valuable servive to the public. Does your post provide a service to the public. ? "And this children is why you should say no to drugs! Truly and utterly bizarre. Your post makes no sense? You were called a liar for saying this... "You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis" So YOU accused ME of jeering at you. But when challenged to prove it you can’t. I know I didn’t jeer at you so I say you are lying about this. You then try to paint this whole thing as an attack on social workers? Again who attacked them? Certainly not me. Your posts are becoming utterly bonkers. Are you ok? | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting . Another trully bizarre post. Most people simply accept that a general election result is a reflection of public opinion and the effectiveness of a marketing campaign. You are now calling a poster a liar but are unable to produce a single piece of evidence to support your point. You simply made a statement that a poster was lying . Apart from it being extremely ill mannered to make such a post maybe you should have produced some evidence to prove your point. I am hardly going yo download every bit of contact with care workers or social services.
Maybe before posting you should investigate in a bit more detail the systems used by social and care workers to document what they do.
At least they are providing a valuable servive to the public. Does your post provide a service to the public. ?
And this children is why you should say no to drugs!
Truly and utterly bizarre. Your post makes no sense?
You were called a liar for saying this...
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
So YOU accused ME of jeering at you. But when challenged to prove it you can’t. I know I didn’t jeer at you so I say you are lying about this.
You then try to paint this whole thing as an attack on social workers? Again who attacked them? Certainly not me. Your posts are becoming utterly bonkers. Are you ok? "It would seem that you do not like anyone disagreeing with your posts. I do not see many other posters on here calling people liars just because they disagree with the content of their posts . You appear to have achieved an exclusive first. The work undertaken by carers and social workers is at least thousand times more important to both myself and society as a whole than opinions expressed by yourself on here . People are entitled in life to hold opinions that are different to yours . I am not going to waste too much of my life attempting to locate and extract the original post to which you refer. Watering the garden and taking care of the plants takes preference over that. If you are so keen to locate a post why not look it up yourself .? I cannot imagine too many rational people spending their time tracking what people have posted previously and then attempting to cross reference it | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting . Another trully bizarre post. Most people simply accept that a general election result is a reflection of public opinion and the effectiveness of a marketing campaign. You are now calling a poster a liar but are unable to produce a single piece of evidence to support your point. You simply made a statement that a poster was lying . Apart from it being extremely ill mannered to make such a post maybe you should have produced some evidence to prove your point. I am hardly going yo download every bit of contact with care workers or social services.
Maybe before posting you should investigate in a bit more detail the systems used by social and care workers to document what they do.
At least they are providing a valuable servive to the public. Does your post provide a service to the public. ?
And this children is why you should say no to drugs!
Truly and utterly bizarre. Your post makes no sense?
You were called a liar for saying this...
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
So YOU accused ME of jeering at you. But when challenged to prove it you can’t. I know I didn’t jeer at you so I say you are lying about this.
You then try to paint this whole thing as an attack on social workers? Again who attacked them? Certainly not me. Your posts are becoming utterly bonkers. Are you ok? It would seem that you do not like anyone disagreeing with your posts. I do not see many other posters on here calling people liars just because they disagree with the content of their posts . You appear to have achieved an exclusive first. The work undertaken by carers and social workers is at least thousand times more important to both myself and society as a whole than opinions expressed by yourself on here . People are entitled in life to hold opinions that are different to yours . I am not going to waste too much of my life attempting to locate and extract the original post to which you refer. Watering the garden and taking care of the plants takes preference over that. If you are so keen to locate a post why not look it up yourself .? I cannot imagine too many rational people spending their time tracking what people have posted previously and then attempting to cross reference it "WTAF are you even talking about? This is beyond weird now. Totally and utterly bizarre and bonkers posts.
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting . Another trully bizarre post. Most people simply accept that a general election result is a reflection of public opinion and the effectiveness of a marketing campaign. You are now calling a poster a liar but are unable to produce a single piece of evidence to support your point. You simply made a statement that a poster was lying . Apart from it being extremely ill mannered to make such a post maybe you should have produced some evidence to prove your point. I am hardly going yo download every bit of contact with care workers or social services.
Maybe before posting you should investigate in a bit more detail the systems used by social and care workers to document what they do.
At least they are providing a valuable servive to the public. Does your post provide a service to the public. ?
And this children is why you should say no to drugs!
Truly and utterly bizarre. Your post makes no sense?
You were called a liar for saying this...
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
So YOU accused ME of jeering at you. But when challenged to prove it you can’t. I know I didn’t jeer at you so I say you are lying about this.
You then try to paint this whole thing as an attack on social workers? Again who attacked them? Certainly not me. Your posts are becoming utterly bonkers. Are you ok? It would seem that you do not like anyone disagreeing with your posts. I do not see many other posters on here calling people liars just because they disagree with the content of their posts . You appear to have achieved an exclusive first. The work undertaken by carers and social workers is at least thousand times more important to both myself and society as a whole than opinions expressed by yourself on here . People are entitled in life to hold opinions that are different to yours . I am not going to waste too much of my life attempting to locate and extract the original post to which you refer. Watering the garden and taking care of the plants takes preference over that. If you are so keen to locate a post why not look it up yourself .? I cannot imagine too many rational people spending their time tracking what people have posted previously and then attempting to cross reference it
WTAF are you even talking about? This is beyond weird now. Totally and utterly bizarre and bonkers posts.
Why are you trying to imply I have said anything about carers and social workers? Just bloody weird?????"Whether you like it or not you made a specific comment about people's wealth and social/ care workers. If you are that bothered about the topic you could go through all your previous posts and identify the post concerned. . | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting . Another trully bizarre post. Most people simply accept that a general election result is a reflection of public opinion and the effectiveness of a marketing campaign. You are now calling a poster a liar but are unable to produce a single piece of evidence to support your point. You simply made a statement that a poster was lying . Apart from it being extremely ill mannered to make such a post maybe you should have produced some evidence to prove your point. I am hardly going yo download every bit of contact with care workers or social services.
Maybe before posting you should investigate in a bit more detail the systems used by social and care workers to document what they do.
At least they are providing a valuable servive to the public. Does your post provide a service to the public. ?
And this children is why you should say no to drugs!
Truly and utterly bizarre. Your post makes no sense?
You were called a liar for saying this...
You even managed to jeer at me for speaking to social workers on a daily basis
So YOU accused ME of jeering at you. But when challenged to prove it you can’t. I know I didn’t jeer at you so I say you are lying about this.
You then try to paint this whole thing as an attack on social workers? Again who attacked them? Certainly not me. Your posts are becoming utterly bonkers. Are you ok? It would seem that you do not like anyone disagreeing with your posts. I do not see many other posters on here calling people liars just because they disagree with the content of their posts . You appear to have achieved an exclusive first. The work undertaken by carers and social workers is at least thousand times more important to both myself and society as a whole than opinions expressed by yourself on here . People are entitled in life to hold opinions that are different to yours . I am not going to waste too much of my life attempting to locate and extract the original post to which you refer. Watering the garden and taking care of the plants takes preference over that. If you are so keen to locate a post why not look it up yourself .? I cannot imagine too many rational people spending their time tracking what people have posted previously and then attempting to cross reference it
WTAF are you even talking about? This is beyond weird now. Totally and utterly bizarre and bonkers posts.
Why are you trying to imply I have said anything about carers and social workers? Just bloody weird????? Whether you like it or not you made a specific comment about people's wealth and social/ care workers. If you are that bothered about the topic you could go through all your previous posts and identify the post concerned. ."I didn’t. You are lying. | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting
How many constitutes a 'pile on'?
I ask because there's now 3 people going at Pat.
Yourself, one who asked a bizarre question which has nothing to do with the thread and one who jump straight to personal.
I haven't seen you call it out yet
I was here first so cannot pile on. Pat accused me of something that was not true. So I let it go?"I wasn't actually accusing you of piling on. I said there's now 3 and you haven't called it out like you did earlier. That's hypocrisy, no? | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting
How many constitutes a 'pile on'?
I ask because there's now 3 people going at Pat.
Yourself, one who asked a bizarre question which has nothing to do with the thread and one who jump straight to personal.
I haven't seen you call it out yet
I was here first so cannot pile on. Pat accused me of something that was not true. So I let it go?
I wasn't actually accusing you of piling on. I said there's now 3 and you haven't called it out like you did earlier.
That's hypocrisy, no?"Possibly though as I am in it and those posters are agreeing with me it would be a bit odd. You on the other hand can point fingers. I would argue it is only hypocrisy if I pile in and attack rather than being already in and others join. But this thread has become so fucking weird that I am not sure whether I am coming or going now!!! | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting
How many constitutes a 'pile on'?
I ask because there's now 3 people going at Pat.
Yourself, one who asked a bizarre question which has nothing to do with the thread and one who jump straight to personal.
I haven't seen you call it out yet
I was here first so cannot pile on. Pat accused me of something that was not true. So I let it go?
I wasn't actually accusing you of piling on. I said there's now 3 and you haven't called it out like you did earlier.
That's hypocrisy, no?
Possibly though as I am in it and those posters are agreeing with me it would be a bit odd. You on the other hand can point fingers. I would argue it is only hypocrisy if I pile in and attack rather than being already in and others join.
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. "**************************************** Exactly the response I predicted. I COULD explain myself but, I decided the required time and energy expended on tap- tap- tapping a reply on an iPhone keypad to be 'intellectually inefficient' | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting
How many constitutes a 'pile on'?
I ask because there's now 3 people going at Pat.
Yourself, one who asked a bizarre question which has nothing to do with the thread and one who jump straight to personal.
I haven't seen you call it out yet
I was here first so cannot pile on. Pat accused me of something that was not true. So I let it go?
I wasn't actually accusing you of piling on. I said there's now 3 and you haven't called it out like you did earlier.
That's hypocrisy, no?
Possibly though as I am in it and those posters are agreeing with me it would be a bit odd. You on the other hand can point fingers. I would argue it is only hypocrisy if I pile in and attack rather than being already in and others join.
But this thread has become so fucking weird that I am not sure whether I am coming or going now!!!
I think you met yourself leaving " you ain’t wrong. All a bit Twilight Zone. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
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Exactly the response I predicted.
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting
How many constitutes a 'pile on'?
I ask because there's now 3 people going at Pat.
Yourself, one who asked a bizarre question which has nothing to do with the thread and one who jump straight to personal.
I haven't seen you call it out yet
I was here first so cannot pile on. Pat accused me of something that was not true. So I let it go?
I wasn't actually accusing you of piling on. I said there's now 3 and you haven't called it out like you did earlier.
That's hypocrisy, no?
Possibly though as I am in it and those posters are agreeing with me it would be a bit odd. You on the other hand can point fingers. I would argue it is only hypocrisy if I pile in and attack rather than being already in and others join.
But this thread has become so fucking weird that I am not sure whether I am coming or going now!!!"'It's cool if they agree with me' Exactly the response I expected tbf | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)?"********************* Get this straight..... Who was I abusing....?? You? Billy Wotsit from such and such a place..?? Stan from the chip shop with the dodgy eye..???? or, Frankie Coops from wherever...???? Correct. Apart from you, I made the rest up. Now, You accuse me of using the term 'dim witted' against someone, who was that poster..?? Can you identify whoever you assume it may have been..?? OR.'unfortunates' Again... who??? Are you a mind reader??? I'll use those terms ANYTIME I WISH, but never personally. Unlike your 'good self', constantly ripping into a decent poster who I shall name, as you call him 'Pat' And you gripe at me for bad mouthing folks..?? I've never yet done so. DO NOT, EVER, TRY TO PIN THIS KIND OF RUBBISH ON ME. Got it?? I damn well hope so. | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting
How many constitutes a 'pile on'?
I ask because there's now 3 people going at Pat.
Yourself, one who asked a bizarre question which has nothing to do with the thread and one who jump straight to personal.
I haven't seen you call it out yet
I was here first so cannot pile on. Pat accused me of something that was not true. So I let it go?
I wasn't actually accusing you of piling on. I said there's now 3 and you haven't called it out like you did earlier.
That's hypocrisy, no?
Possibly though as I am in it and those posters are agreeing with me it would be a bit odd. You on the other hand can point fingers. I would argue it is only hypocrisy if I pile in and attack rather than being already in and others join.
But this thread has become so fucking weird that I am not sure whether I am coming or going now!!!". What exactly ie weird about this thread. ? People are simply expressing their opinions and no one is compelled to reply. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics. . It looks like you may have a very short term memory. To use your terminology I have seen you regularly use the mob mentality pile against posters with whom you disagree. You appear to actively enjoy doing it. Luckily it is only an Internet forum but the hyprosy of making such a statement/ post is hard to accept .
I regularly read Eva's posts if I have a little idle time. As he does not spend his whole life logged on to the forum his posts are alleays well writen and informed
I have never once seen him sneer or jeer at those with whole he disagrees. There are plenty of other posters who seem to think that their opinions are the only ones that should be expressed and constantly sneer and jeer at opinions that are different to theirs.
Prove it Pat. Show me! Read my reply to Feisty. While I take the micky out of you (because let’s face it, you are trolling and have run multiple accounts often concurrently and used that to deliberately wind people up) there is only one other poster I have regularly disagreed with and that tends to be a direct 1:1 discussion. Even then I do not disagree with them ALL the time and have even complimented them on sone subjects. It is less what they say and their views and more how it is said and the tone they use. If you dish it out then you need to take it.
What I am commenting on here is that almost EVERY time a certain poster posts, he is seemingly jumped on by a bunch of people. Pretty much every time.
I might start pointing it out to illustrate the point. You can all do the same with me if you want?. Your answer simply proves a point. Someone makes a post and you accuse them of trolling simply because their views are different to yours . Maybe time for a reality check and rationale. Last time I checked the government won the election with an 80 seat majority. That is hardly trolling , it is simply facing reality and using basic common sense.
It is the opinion of the electorate that counts , not what people post on here
I don’t claim anyone is trolling except you. If you genuinely believed what you post then you would not feel the need to create multiple profiles that have a short life span. You are infamous for it and anyone who has been around here for a few years knows it. Your posts are cut n paste from previous posts under other pseudonyms. They are clearly designed to wind people up. If you honestly believed what you post then you would use your primary profile, the one where you give out advice on Cap d’Agde.. It seems that you do not want any opinions that are different to yours and even want to dictate how people post.
Luckily we live in a free society. Pointing out that the government have an eighty seat majority is hardly winding people up. It is called facing reality. I cam see no evidence that your views represent the majority. Personally I prefer to live in the real world not rely on comments on an Internet forum
It is highly ironic that you criticise people for attacking one poster yet proceed to do exactly the same thing yourself .
Just as well we live in a free society
So do you REALLY believe everything you post Pat? If so why the need over the years to set up multiple pseudonyms and parallel profiles? Why not just post from your main profile?
I haven’t seen anything new from you for many years. You just post the same material again and again.
Tell you what Pat. If you honestly believe what you post and can explain why you set up multiple pseudonyms to post it, then I will happily apologise because then I might believe you are genuine. As it stands over the last several years I have seen you do this ad infinitum and it feels like trolling and knowing many long timers are in on the joke...At least you have proved beyond all manner of doubt the validity of Eva's post
Lol what this one...
There are certain individuals here who really must imagine the British public, in general, to be stupid.
They're proven wrong time and again.
Maybe, this little platform is their only means of getting their "message"(sic) across to other unfortunates, who clearly are as dim-witted as they seem to be.
It's disturbing when one thinks these people have the vote.....
So referring to a poster as “dim-witted” is not a personal attack? Sounds like one to me and is certainly playing the man not the ball.
Saying that anyone listening to the posts the person posts are “unfortunates” and saying they must too be “dim-witted” is also a personal attack though clearly less attributable.
Saying it is disturbing they have the vote...hmmm sounds pretty insulting again.
I asked you a straight question. Any chance of a straight answer to prove the strength of your convictions and thus demonstrate you are not just a wind up merchant (ie trolling)?
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Get this straight.....
Who was I abusing....??
You?
Billy Wotsit from such and such a place..??
Stan from the chip shop with the dodgy eye..????
or, Frankie Coops from wherever...????
Correct. Apart from you, I made the rest up.
Now, You accuse me of using the term 'dim witted' against someone, who was that poster..??
Can you identify whoever you assume it may have been..??
OR.'unfortunates'
Again... who??? Are you a mind reader???
I'll use those terms ANYTIME I WISH, but never personally.
Unlike your 'good self', constantly ripping into a decent poster who I shall name, as you call him 'Pat'
And you gripe at me for bad mouthing folks..??
I've never yet done so.
DO NOT, EVER, TRY TO PIN THIS KIND OF RUBBISH ON ME.
Got it??
I damn well hope so."I think the lady doth protest too much! You know exactly what you were doing with that post and who it was aimed at. Otherwise what was the point of the post? I think we could all be better (yep inc me). The back and forth with Pat is years old and actively encouraged by Pat. Many people who have been on these forums for a few years or more believe Pat is a wind up merchant. Apart from saying some of his posts are barmy and saying he is trolling I don’t believe I have ever personally insulted him? | |||
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"Pat! What on Earth are you talking about? Totally and utterly barmy last few posts! What has you accusing me of jeering at you (we’ve established you are lying about that) on the Fab forums got to do with the General Election?????? Completely bonkers posting
How many constitutes a 'pile on'?
I ask because there's now 3 people going at Pat.
Yourself, one who asked a bizarre question which has nothing to do with the thread and one who jump straight to personal.
I haven't seen you call it out yet
I was here first so cannot pile on. Pat accused me of something that was not true. So I let it go?
I wasn't actually accusing you of piling on. I said there's now 3 and you haven't called it out like you did earlier.
That's hypocrisy, no?
Possibly though as I am in it and those posters are agreeing with me it would be a bit odd. You on the other hand can point fingers. I would argue it is only hypocrisy if I pile in and attack rather than being already in and others join.
But this thread has become so fucking weird that I am not sure whether I am coming or going now!!!. What exactly ie weird about this thread. ? People are simply expressing their opinions and no one is compelled to reply. "Your posts have become increasingly weird as the thread continued. | |||
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"Catching up on threads. Is this another passive aggressive dig that avoids naming the person you are talking about in case it gets you a moderator ban? Seeing this a lot as well as a bit of mob mentality pile on. You are better than that Eva! Just debate the topic rather than attack the poster!
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Please...., Considering the fact you have not one iota of a clue regarding my true nature and even less knowledge of my way of life, may I ask that you do not attempt to patronise me.
Thank you in advance for your understanding.
You’re correct I do not but that has nothing to do with the comment/observation I made in this thread. I wouldn’t and haven’t presumed anything or commented on your true nature or way of life. Why would I? None of my business and not remotely relevant.
My comment was that it appears you are part of a mob mentality pile on in this thread and others at times and I think you (and all of us) are better than that and it is unnecessary when discussing these topics.
Come on...
Calling Eva out for engaging in a 'pile on' whilst you regularly get involved in similar behaviour against certain forums users
We are probably all guilty of it at times but the worst of it has not been seen on this thread.
Pretty certain there is one poster that I often (though not always) disagree with. The tone they often end up receiving from me reflects the tone they always dish out.
There is one other who is clearly and regularly trolling and has illicited years worth of banter.
What I am talking about here is the fact that every single time a certain poster posts, he gets jumped on by several posters. Every single time. No attempt at discussion, just a bombardment of posts that often feel like an ongoing dig.
Feel free to call me out when I do pile on myself and I can then better self reflect *
*the thumb is deliberately ironic".Your post is rather ironic considering your subsequent posts on this thread. Clearly you do not wish to practice what you preach. Your tolerance appears to only extend to those with whom you agree. | |||
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