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over a year ago
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Should MPs be obliged to attend Parliament or hold local surgeries.
Asking this following lots of reports of Nadine Dorres has reportedly not had a local surgery for over 3 years. Also apparently not been active in Parliament for a while. In the meantime hosting a weekly show on GB news and writing books. |
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"Should MPs be obliged to attend Parliament or hold local surgeries.
Asking this following lots of reports of Nadine Dorres has reportedly not had a local surgery for over 3 years. Also apparently not been active in Parliament for a while. In the meantime hosting a weekly show on GB news and writing books."
. If anyone experienced difficulty contacting her the the local parry could do so on her behalf . Do any of her constituents object to her broadcasting regularly. ? Maybe they appreciate her proactive approach and the fact that she is openly discussing topics on their behalf |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"It is scandalous how she is allowed to abandon her constituents. "
And yet one of the arguments in favour of FPTP is constituency representation (ignoring that MPs are required to vote in Parliament in line with the whip). |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Should MPs be obliged to attend Parliament or hold local surgeries.
Asking this following lots of reports of Nadine Dorres has reportedly not had a local surgery for over 3 years. Also apparently not been active in Parliament for a while. In the meantime hosting a weekly show on GB news and writing books. . If anyone experienced difficulty contacting her the the local parry could do so on her behalf . Do any of her constituents object to her broadcasting regularly. ? Maybe they appreciate her proactive approach and the fact that she is openly discussing topics on their behalf "
I love how Pat poses everything as a question rather than a statement 
I think this highlights another argument against MPs having second or third jobs a d consultancies. Increase their salaries but require 100% focus on their role as MP.
Ironically Nads spent longer “resigning with immediate effect” than Lizzie spent as Prime Minister  |
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"Should MPs be obliged to attend Parliament or hold local surgeries.
Asking this following lots of reports of Nadine Dorres has reportedly not had a local surgery for over 3 years. Also apparently not been active in Parliament for a while. In the meantime hosting a weekly show on GB news and writing books."
Yeah her constituents and local council are really peeved with her antics, she doesn’t even live there either preferring to stay in her pad in the Cotswolds.
She has totally checked out mentally and physically. They should sanction her, but can the PM afford another bruising defeat? |
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MPs should be forced to attend Parliament on a regular basis and hold local surgeries.
If they aren't holding local surgeries then they have nothing to take to Parliament and in effect no job to do.
We should be holding every single MP to account for what they do for their constituents.
In fact, we should do away with parties and make every single one of them independent. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
This has been a much discussed topic but I defo think reform is needed.
I think an MP should have lived in their constituency for two years before being put forward for election. They should then be required to actually live in their constituency for the duration of the time they are an MP (excepting Parly business and trips). Then as Feisty says, be required to hold a minimum number of local surgeries. |
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"This has been a much discussed topic but I defo think reform is needed.
I think an MP should have lived in their constituency for two years before being put forward for election. They should then be required to actually live in their constituency for the duration of the time they are an MP (excepting Parly business and trips). Then as Feisty says, be required to hold a minimum number of local surgeries."
. What matters is what her constituents think of her . That is the only result that counts and a true reflection of public opinion.
At the last election she won 38,936 votes or 61 % of the total vote . It looks like the electorate are more than happy with her. Only people with exceptional talent would appear regularly on a news channel. She is doing exactly what voters would expect and proactively expressing her opinions on her constituents behalf . Whether of not he hold constituency meetings is irrelevant. The are other means of contacting her |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"This has been a much discussed topic but I defo think reform is needed.
I think an MP should have lived in their constituency for two years before being put forward for election. They should then be required to actually live in their constituency for the duration of the time they are an MP (excepting Parly business and trips). Then as Feisty says, be required to hold a minimum number of local surgeries.. What matters is what her constituents think of her . That is the only result that counts and a true reflection of public opinion.
At the last election she won 38,936 votes or 61 % of the total vote . It looks like the electorate are more than happy with her. Only people with exceptional talent would appear regularly on a news channel. She is doing exactly what voters would expect and proactively expressing her opinions on her constituents behalf . Whether of not he hold constituency meetings is irrelevant. The are other means of contacting her "
Pat you highlight an important point...most voters put their X in the box of the Party they want in Govt (in this case Conservatives) and for the most part the candidate is irrelevant. Your statement can only be tested if Nads went independent and was still voted in. She was in a safe Tory seat nothing more. |
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"This has been a much discussed topic but I defo think reform is needed.
I think an MP should have lived in their constituency for two years before being put forward for election. They should then be required to actually live in their constituency for the duration of the time they are an MP (excepting Parly business and trips). Then as Feisty says, be required to hold a minimum number of local surgeries.. What matters is what her constituents think of her . That is the only result that counts and a true reflection of public opinion.
At the last election she won 38,936 votes or 61 % of the total vote . It looks like the electorate are more than happy with her. Only people with exceptional talent would appear regularly on a news channel. She is doing exactly what voters would expect and proactively expressing her opinions on her constituents behalf . Whether of not he hold constituency meetings is irrelevant. The are other means of contacting her "
She won a clearly safe Tory seat, that does not speak volumes for her popularity.
The more I think of this 'making them all independent' the more I like it |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"This has been a much discussed topic but I defo think reform is needed.
I think an MP should have lived in their constituency for two years before being put forward for election. They should then be required to actually live in their constituency for the duration of the time they are an MP (excepting Parly business and trips). Then as Feisty says, be required to hold a minimum number of local surgeries.. What matters is what her constituents think of her . That is the only result that counts and a true reflection of public opinion.
At the last election she won 38,936 votes or 61 % of the total vote . It looks like the electorate are more than happy with her. Only people with exceptional talent would appear regularly on a news channel. She is doing exactly what voters would expect and proactively expressing her opinions on her constituents behalf . Whether of not he hold constituency meetings is irrelevant. The are other means of contacting her
She won a clearly safe Tory seat, that does not speak volumes for her popularity.
The more I think of this 'making them all independent' the more I like it "
The anti PR gang will hate it though...just imagine the complex coalitions required to get anything done  |
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"This has been a much discussed topic but I defo think reform is needed.
I think an MP should have lived in their constituency for two years before being put forward for election. They should then be required to actually live in their constituency for the duration of the time they are an MP (excepting Parly business and trips). Then as Feisty says, be required to hold a minimum number of local surgeries.. What matters is what her constituents think of her . That is the only result that counts and a true reflection of public opinion.
At the last election she won 38,936 votes or 61 % of the total vote . It looks like the electorate are more than happy with her. Only people with exceptional talent would appear regularly on a news channel. She is doing exactly what voters would expect and proactively expressing her opinions on her constituents behalf . Whether of not he hold constituency meetings is irrelevant. The are other means of contacting her
She won a clearly safe Tory seat, that does not speak volumes for her popularity.
The more I think of this 'making them all independent' the more I like it
The anti PR gang will hate it though...just imagine the complex coalitions required to get anything done "
Luckily for me, I'm not anti PR. I do see the point they make in it creating some impasse.
My idea probably makes that even worse but what we get currently is party voting, I'd hazard a guess that very few actually vote for their MP. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"This has been a much discussed topic but I defo think reform is needed.
I think an MP should have lived in their constituency for two years before being put forward for election. They should then be required to actually live in their constituency for the duration of the time they are an MP (excepting Parly business and trips). Then as Feisty says, be required to hold a minimum number of local surgeries.. What matters is what her constituents think of her . That is the only result that counts and a true reflection of public opinion.
At the last election she won 38,936 votes or 61 % of the total vote . It looks like the electorate are more than happy with her. Only people with exceptional talent would appear regularly on a news channel. She is doing exactly what voters would expect and proactively expressing her opinions on her constituents behalf . Whether of not he hold constituency meetings is irrelevant. The are other means of contacting her
She won a clearly safe Tory seat, that does not speak volumes for her popularity.
The more I think of this 'making them all independent' the more I like it
The anti PR gang will hate it though...just imagine the complex coalitions required to get anything done
Luckily for me, I'm not anti PR. I do see the point they make in it creating some impasse.
My idea probably makes that even worse but what we get currently is party voting, I'd hazard a guess that very few actually vote for their MP."
The very point I mads to Pat up above who is convinced they all actually voted for Nads rather than Tories. |
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"It is scandalous how she is allowed to abandon her constituents.
And yet one of the arguments in favour of FPTP is constituency representation (ignoring that MPs are required to vote in Parliament in line with the whip). "
I mean, nothing stops them voting their own way regardless kf what their constituencies want? |
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MPs are elected to represent the people of their constituency. I fail to see how that works if she never sees them or attends parliament. If it was a normal job she would be sacked. However, for the Conservatives it is always party over people. Sad thing is they could put up a sheep with a blue rosette in her constituency and it would be voted in.  |
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"Should MPs be obliged to attend Parliament or hold local surgeries.
Asking this following lots of reports of Nadine Dorres has reportedly not had a local surgery for over 3 years. Also apparently not been active in Parliament for a while. In the meantime hosting a weekly show on GB news and writing books."
All surgeries should be attended. But there are conflicts on what you can attend in Parliament and what you can do in your constituency.
This is why they have expenses. So that the surgeries can be held by their admin staffor letters read etc and info passed on.
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"This has been a much discussed topic but I defo think reform is needed.
I think an MP should have lived in their constituency for two years before being put forward for election. They should then be required to actually live in their constituency for the duration of the time they are an MP (excepting Parly business and trips). Then as Feisty says, be required to hold a minimum number of local surgeries."
Agree with this. I'd even bump it up to 5 years.
Ni air dropping in your favourite mps to keep them in parliament.
Represent the people in the area you live. Stops crap mps being dropped into safe seats |
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"MPs are elected to represent the people of their constituency. I fail to see how that works if she never sees them or attends parliament. If it was a normal job she would be sacked. However, for the Conservatives it is always party over people. Sad thing is they could put up a sheep with a blue rosette in her constituency and it would be voted in. "
It's definitely not just the Tories who are 'party over people' |
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over a year ago
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"Should MPs be obliged to attend Parliament or hold local surgeries.
Asking this following lots of reports of Nadine Dorres has reportedly not had a local surgery for over 3 years. Also apparently not been active in Parliament for a while. In the meantime hosting a weekly show on GB news and writing books.
All surgeries should be attended. But there are conflicts on what you can attend in Parliament and what you can do in your constituency.
This is why they have expenses. So that the surgeries can be held by their admin staffor letters read etc and info passed on.
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Your point would be valid if they were active in Parliament and that was the reason for not appearing at surgeries. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Should MPs be obliged to attend Parliament or hold local surgeries.
Asking this following lots of reports of Nadine Dorres has reportedly not had a local surgery for over 3 years. Also apparently not been active in Parliament for a while. In the meantime hosting a weekly show on GB news and writing books.
All surgeries should be attended. But there are conflicts on what you can attend in Parliament and what you can do in your constituency.
This is why they have expenses. So that the surgeries can be held by their admin staffor letters read etc and info passed on.
Your point would be valid if they were active in Parliament and that was the reason for not appearing at surgeries. "
Attendance at Parliament or in select committees would trump constituency surgeries. Nothing else should.
Becomes difficult when appointed to Ministerial position though as time constraints change exponentially. Perhaps Ministers should have deputy MPs to cover their constituency business? |
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"Pat, you are talking about how her constituents felt in December 2019. How do you know they would all vote for her again ?"
. As she is not seeking re election none of us will ever know. We will all face reality at the next election. Everything in between is irrelevant
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"It is scandalous how she is allowed to abandon her constituents.
And yet one of the arguments in favour of FPTP is constituency representation (ignoring that MPs are required to vote in Parliament in line with the whip).
I mean, nothing stops them voting their own way regardless kf what their constituencies want?"
True but that again undermines the myth of representing constituents, one of the key arguments for FPTP and against PR. Technically constituents can demand a recall to trigger a by-election but I believe only in cases of legality/crime and such (and even then I think it needs a large majority). Perhaps that should be extended? |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"Pat, you are talking about how her constituents felt in December 2019. How do you know they would all vote for her again ?. As she is not seeking re election none of us will ever know. We will all face reality at the next election. Everything in between is irrelevant "
You just undermined your own argument. I thought you were confident she was popular with her constituents  |
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"Should MPs be obliged to attend Parliament or hold local surgeries.
Asking this following lots of reports of Nadine Dorres has reportedly not had a local surgery for over 3 years. Also apparently not been active in Parliament for a while. In the meantime hosting a weekly show on GB news and writing books."
I think she is on talk tv not GB News. |
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But a by-election can't be called unless parliament is sitting which is September now