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"Looking forward to seeing the results" Byelections are used as a 'protest' vote, so likely the Tories will get hammered. But they're not a real predictor of a GE result. | |||
"So will Sunak retain the seats in the next few by elections? Or Will Starmer win them? Will Ed Davey be the man of the hour? Thoughts appreciated" I would think the Tories will loose all 3 but not sure if the lib dems may pinch some from Labour | |||
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"I think Labour's only problem is ULEZ in Uxbridge" I live in the constituency...the Tories are only appearing to be campaigning in the area north of Uxbridge (wealthier) while Labour and the Lib Dems are canvassing all over the place, and the Tories' only campaign mantra is on the ULEZ issue - personally, I don't know if that's a wise stance for them, as a) it was Boris Johnson who instituted the whole ULEZ thing in the first place as Mayor (which a lot of local people are pointing out, and he's now calling "bone-headed"!!), and b) a lot of people here are looking for answers on more of the more pressing local issues. Polls are suggesting an 8-point lead for Labour, but who knows? | |||
"I've been away for a while. I'm guessing the above poster is Pat's new incarnation." Yes | |||
"The only results that count are those returned on the day of a general election. Bye election results are meaningless . Last time I checked the Conservatives won the general election in December 2019 with an 80 seat majority These are the only results that count . Likewise opinion polls are also meaningless , the only thing that matters is thd count on general election day. Sad to see that the Conservatives will be entering the general election without two of the greatest politicians of all times Boris Johnson and Lizz Truss . Boris Johnson was a true election winner and extremely popular political. All the doubters and haters spent their time searching for any minor mistakes which he made. These politicsns have nothing to offer society if all they can do is spend their time criticising a pm for minor faults. If Liz Truss was still in power we would be starting to reap the benefits of her policies . A very sad day for the UK when she resigned . A true reflection of her ability is the fact that her earnings per hour are the highest of any political. It look like many companies appreciate her skills and expertise . " Have you considered writing for Private Eye? | |||
"The only results that count are those returned on the day of a general election. Bye election results are meaningless . Last time I checked the Conservatives won the general election in December 2019 with an 80 seat majority These are the only results that count . Likewise opinion polls are also meaningless , the only thing that matters is thd count on general election day. Sad to see that the Conservatives will be entering the general election without two of the greatest politicians of all times Boris Johnson and Lizz Truss . Boris Johnson was a true election winner and extremely popular political. All the doubters and haters spent their time searching for any minor mistakes which he made. These politicsns have nothing to offer society if all they can do is spend their time criticising a pm for minor faults. If Liz Truss was still in power we would be starting to reap the benefits of her policies . A very sad day for the UK when she resigned . A true reflection of her ability is the fact that her earnings per hour are the highest of any political. It look like many companies appreciate her skills and expertise . Have you considered writing for Private Eye? " Maybe they do... | |||
" it was Boris Johnson who instituted the whole ULEZ thing in the first place as Mayor (which a lot of local people are pointing out, and he's now calling "bone-headed"!!) " Ha ha ha. | |||
"I think Labour's only problem is ULEZ in Uxbridge" Yeah they are trying to make this a single issue matter, same tactic used for get brexit done, but ignore all the other crappy stuff. Question is will people fall for it again? | |||
"The only results that count are those returned on the day of a general election. Bye election results are meaningless . Last time I checked the Conservatives won the general election in December 2019 with an 80 seat majority These are the only results that count . Likewise opinion polls are also meaningless , the only thing that matters is thd count on general election day. Sad to see that the Conservatives will be entering the general election without two of the greatest politicians of all times Boris Johnson and Lizz Truss . Boris Johnson was a true election winner and extremely popular political. All the doubters and haters spent their time searching for any minor mistakes which he made. These politicsns have nothing to offer society if all they can do is spend their time criticising a pm for minor faults. If Liz Truss was still in power we would be starting to reap the benefits of her policies . A very sad day for the UK when she resigned . A true reflection of her ability is the fact that her earnings per hour are the highest of any political. It look like many companies appreciate her skills and expertise . " Minor mistakes  | |||
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"How do you know Liz Truss earns the most ?" . Aa reported by Sky news and the National Press . Prior to this it was Boris Johnson. Many people appreciate their exceptional talent and companies are prepared to pay large sums to hear their opinions which are then passed down to the ordinary members of society. It makes us all winners. Two of the most talented and capable politicians of recent times . | |||
"How do you know Liz Truss earns the most ?. Aa reported by Sky news and the National Press . Prior to this it was Boris Johnson. Many people appreciate their exceptional talent and companies are prepared to pay large sums to hear their opinions which are then passed down to the ordinary members of society. It makes us all winners. Two of the most talented and capable politicians of recent times . " The sarcasm is heavy with this one  | |||
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"I think Labour's only problem is ULEZ in Uxbridge I live in the constituency...the Tories are only appearing to be campaigning in the area north of Uxbridge (wealthier) while Labour and the Lib Dems are canvassing all over the place, and the Tories' only campaign mantra is on the ULEZ issue - personally, I don't know if that's a wise stance for them, as a) it was Boris Johnson who instituted the whole ULEZ thing in the first place as Mayor (which a lot of local people are pointing out, and he's now calling "bone-headed"!!), and b) a lot of people here are looking for answers on more of the more pressing local issues. Polls are suggesting an 8-point lead for Labour, but who knows? " ,,,,,, ,,,, ,,, LBC radio played a clip last week of the outgoing Uxbridge MP , Boris Johnson , saying the ULEZ scheme was nothing to do with clean air and was a money making scheme ,,,,,,, LBC then played a clip of Boris Johnson , when he was London Mayor and he was introducing ULEZ to London for the first time saying the scheme was about clean air and was not a money making scheme | |||
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"I think Labour's only problem is ULEZ in Uxbridge Yeah they are trying to make this a single issue matter, same tactic used for get brexit done, but ignore all the other crappy stuff. Question is will people fall for it again?" They did! Brilliant, now if they could have done it in Selby…. | |||
"I think Labour's only problem is ULEZ in Uxbridge Yeah they are trying to make this a single issue matter, same tactic used for get brexit done, but ignore all the other crappy stuff. Question is will people fall for it again? They did! Brilliant, now if they could have done it in Selby…." It is astonishing it worked given ULEZ was essentially Boris Johnsons policy and the main Tory party has supported it too. | |||
"Count Binface is running in Johnson's former constituency. That's surely the 1 to watch "He got 69 votes ! | |||
"I think Labour's only problem is ULEZ in Uxbridge Yeah they are trying to make this a single issue matter, same tactic used for get brexit done, but ignore all the other crappy stuff. Question is will people fall for it again? They did! Brilliant, now if they could have done it in Selby…. It is astonishing it worked given ULEZ was essentially Boris Johnsons policy and the main Tory party has supported it too. " I think the thought of paying 12 quid a day outweighed 13 years of tory mismanagement. It’s a bridge too far for many. But it’s a good result, many people didn’t like the idea of extending ulez and that will be a key issue next GE in the south-east. I suspect Labour will backdown on the issue. | |||
"Count Binface is running in Johnson's former constituency. That's surely the 1 to watch
He got 69 votes !"69 has always been a favourite number of mine! | |||
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"Damm I was out by one having predicted the Tories would loose all 3. Looks like Labour and lib dems shared the other 2" Tories have a prior precedence of winning on one policy | |||
"Damm I was out by one having predicted the Tories would loose all 3. Looks like Labour and lib dems shared the other 2 Tories have a prior precedence of winning on one policy "And a local policy which the MP has no power to change  | |||
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"They came close to losing what was a sure win seat. The Conservatives are gone come next election and likely never to return." ************************************* Really......? We shall see. Lots of time before the next G.E. XXX  | |||
"I think Labour's only problem is ULEZ in Uxbridge Yeah they are trying to make this a single issue matter, same tactic used for get brexit done, but ignore all the other crappy stuff. Question is will people fall for it again? They did! Brilliant, now if they could have done it in Selby…. It is astonishing it worked given ULEZ was essentially Boris Johnsons policy and the main Tory party has supported it too. " The other ironic thing the minister for transport, grant shapps ordered the London mayor, sadiq Khan to expand the ULEZ as part of the DFT transport for London covid funding settlement… People have been truely Jedi mind tricked… fair play to the tories for pulling that one off!! Only problem is now they have used that one… the tories aren’t going to be able to use it in a general election! | |||
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"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win." I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go an throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. " If I replace the word swivel eyed twats to misguided people blaming the wrong party…. The point still stands | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. If I replace the word swivel eyed twats to misguided people blaming the wrong party…. The point still stands " Absolutely the point still stands. I lose all respect for a POV when the personal insults to people who someone has never conversed with start though. | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. If I replace the word swivel eyed twats to misguided people blaming the wrong party…. The point still stands Absolutely the point still stands. I lose all respect for a POV when the personal insults to people who someone has never conversed with start though. " Wait a minute! I thought only I was seated on this moral high-horse? Front or behind Feisty? | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. If I replace the word swivel eyed twats to misguided people blaming the wrong party…. The point still stands Absolutely the point still stands. I lose all respect for a POV when the personal insults to people who someone has never conversed with start though. Wait a minute! I thought only I was seated on this moral high-horse? Front or behind Feisty?" I'm definitely on the back, you're far more equipped to lead | |||
"They came close to losing what was a sure win seat. The Conservatives are gone come next election and likely never to return." We can but hope. I can't see it happening. Few weeks ago put £10 on another Tory majority. | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. If I replace the word swivel eyed twats to misguided people blaming the wrong party…. The point still stands Absolutely the point still stands. I lose all respect for a POV when the personal insults to people who someone has never conversed with start though. Wait a minute! I thought only I was seated on this moral high-horse? Front or behind Feisty? I'm definitely on the back, you're far more equipped to lead "Suits me. My only concern is that you said only you had your back. But if your at my back do you have my back or not? | |||
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"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. If I replace the word swivel eyed twats to misguided people blaming the wrong party…. The point still stands Absolutely the point still stands. I lose all respect for a POV when the personal insults to people who someone has never conversed with start though. Wait a minute! I thought only I was seated on this moral high-horse? Front or behind Feisty? I'm definitely on the back, you're far more equipped to lead
Suits me. My only concern is that you said only you had your back. But if your at my back do you have my back or not? "Ahh. We're playing the take out of context game? | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. If I replace the word swivel eyed twats to misguided people blaming the wrong party…. The point still stands Absolutely the point still stands. I lose all respect for a POV when the personal insults to people who someone has never conversed with start though. Wait a minute! I thought only I was seated on this moral high-horse? Front or behind Feisty? I'm definitely on the back, you're far more equipped to lead
Suits me. My only concern is that you said only you had your back. But if your at my back do you have my back or not?
Ahh. We're playing the take out of context game? "What’s the rules? I know you are a stickler | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. If I replace the word swivel eyed twats to misguided people blaming the wrong party…. The point still stands Absolutely the point still stands. I lose all respect for a POV when the personal insults to people who someone has never conversed with start though. Wait a minute! I thought only I was seated on this moral high-horse? Front or behind Feisty? I'm definitely on the back, you're far more equipped to lead
Suits me. My only concern is that you said only you had your back. But if your at my back do you have my back or not?
Ahh. We're playing the take out of context game?
What’s the rules? I know you are a stickler "I'm no good with rules. We have agreed in the past that context is important though | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. If I replace the word swivel eyed twats to misguided people blaming the wrong party…. The point still stands Absolutely the point still stands. I lose all respect for a POV when the personal insults to people who someone has never conversed with start though. Wait a minute! I thought only I was seated on this moral high-horse? Front or behind Feisty? I'm definitely on the back, you're far more equipped to lead
Suits me. My only concern is that you said only you had your back. But if your at my back do you have my back or not?
Ahh. We're playing the take out of context game?
What’s the rules? I know you are a stickler
I'm no good with rules. We have agreed in the past that context is important though "It really really is. So are semantics. And evidence (but only from reputable sources although what is reputable seems to be subjective). I reckon we have the makings of some kind of board game here! We can do a swinger version to where clothes get removed if you cannot prove your statements! | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. If I replace the word swivel eyed twats to misguided people blaming the wrong party…. The point still stands Absolutely the point still stands. I lose all respect for a POV when the personal insults to people who someone has never conversed with start though. Wait a minute! I thought only I was seated on this moral high-horse? Front or behind Feisty? I'm definitely on the back, you're far more equipped to lead
Suits me. My only concern is that you said only you had your back. But if your at my back do you have my back or not?
Ahh. We're playing the take out of context game?
What’s the rules? I know you are a stickler
I'm no good with rules. We have agreed in the past that context is important though
It really really is. So are semantics. And evidence (but only from reputable sources although what is reputable seems to be subjective).
I reckon we have the makings of some kind of board game here! We can do a swinger version to where clothes get removed if you cannot prove your statements! "No no. Clothes ger removed if you can prove your statements. Additionally, you get removed from the game if you deflect. | |||
"They came close to losing what was a sure win seat. The Conservatives are gone come next election and likely never to return." Even if they lose the GE ( hope so), of course they'll be back. | |||
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"Damm I was out by one having predicted the Tories would loose all 3. Looks like Labour and lib dems shared the other 2 Tories have a prior precedence of winning on one policy "I know but still surprised | |||
 . Yet the losses were in the 1000s. | |||
"They came close to losing what was a sure win seat. The Conservatives are gone come next election and likely never to return. We can but hope. I can't see it happening. Few weeks ago put £10 on another Tory majority." Why stop at £10. Your so confident of a Tory majority, you seem to post it in nearly every thread. You should put your house on it, you know like put your money where your mouth is. Then it would be a win win for you. | |||
"They came close to losing what was a sure win seat. The Conservatives are gone come next election and likely never to return. We can but hope. I can't see it happening. Few weeks ago put £10 on another Tory majority. Why stop at £10. Your so confident of a Tory majority, you seem to post it in nearly every thread. You should put your house on it, you know like put your money where your mouth is. Then it would be a win win for you." Can't afford to risk losing my house (which I don't own anyway). | |||
"Did you see how excited Sunak was with the 495 win . Yet the losses were in the 1000s."Yes it was an electoral pummelling in all the by-elections, they were extremely lucky they scraped through on a single issue. Will there be ULEZ referendum now? | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. " Yeah it’s not the fault of the nearly 500 voters. They are clearly aggrieved. So don’t hate the players, hate the game. However what is the point of having a small majority? It means that the mandate is really dependent on the MP delivering results, which because of the Game isn’t really feasible. Those changes will happen, and anything else is just a postponement of the inevitable. Kinda like brexit it was slowed but it was inevitable. | |||
"The only results that count are those returned on the day of a general election. Bye election results are meaningless . Last time I checked the Conservatives won the general election in December 2019 with an 80 seat majority These are the only results that count . Likewise opinion polls are also meaningless , the only thing that matters is thd count on general election day. Sad to see that the Conservatives will be entering the general election without two of the greatest politicians of all times Boris Johnson and Lizz Truss . Boris Johnson was a true election winner and extremely popular political. All the doubters and haters spent their time searching for any minor mistakes which he made. These politicsns have nothing to offer society if all they can do is spend their time criticising a pm for minor faults. If Liz Truss was still in power we would be starting to reap the benefits of her policies . A very sad day for the UK when she resigned . A true reflection of her ability is the fact that her earnings per hour are the highest of any political. It look like many companies appreciate her skills and expertise . " Surely you've been sniffing glue. Minor mistakes? Hahahahahahahahahahaha | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. Yeah it’s not the fault of the nearly 500 voters. They are clearly aggrieved. So don’t hate the players, hate the game. However what is the point of having a small majority? It means that the mandate is really dependent on the MP delivering results, which because of the Game isn’t really feasible. Those changes will happen, and anything else is just a postponement of the inevitable. Kinda like brexit it was slowed but it was inevitable." I'd wasn't 500 voters though | |||
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"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. Yeah it’s not the fault of the nearly 500 voters. They are clearly aggrieved. So don’t hate the players, hate the game. However what is the point of having a small majority? It means that the mandate is really dependent on the MP delivering results, which because of the Game isn’t really feasible. Those changes will happen, and anything else is just a postponement of the inevitable. Kinda like brexit it was slowed but it was inevitable. I'd wasn't 500 voters though "Nearly 500, I said. Not bang on 500 | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. Yeah it’s not the fault of the nearly 500 voters. They are clearly aggrieved. So don’t hate the players, hate the game. However what is the point of having a small majority? It means that the mandate is really dependent on the MP delivering results, which because of the Game isn’t really feasible. Those changes will happen, and anything else is just a postponement of the inevitable. Kinda like brexit it was slowed but it was inevitable. I'd wasn't 500 voters though
Nearly 500, I said. Not bang on 500"This is bizarre. The Tory candidate got 15k votes. Why is it only the 500 who are aggrieved? | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. Yeah it’s not the fault of the nearly 500 voters. They are clearly aggrieved. So don’t hate the players, hate the game. However what is the point of having a small majority? It means that the mandate is really dependent on the MP delivering results, which because of the Game isn’t really feasible. Those changes will happen, and anything else is just a postponement of the inevitable. Kinda like brexit it was slowed but it was inevitable. I'd wasn't 500 voters though
Nearly 500, I said. Not bang on 500
This is bizarre. The Tory candidate got 15k votes. Why is it only the 500 who are aggrieved?"I meant in the context of margin, whilst it is true there was 15k voters who supported the tories the contest was decided on about 500 votes more than the nearest rival who were labour. Yes the victory demonstrated that a single issue can tip the balance in closely fought seats. Now if the tories can repeat the same formula everywhere i.e a single issue which is a local problem in each of its marginals then labour would have more to worry about. It would demonstrate there is no clear path to victory and it would require them to step up their game. The news has been dominated more about the tories clinging on to one seat rather than the two seats it lost at a quite hefty level. Which is Silver cloud journalism at its best. | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. Yeah it’s not the fault of the nearly 500 voters. They are clearly aggrieved. So don’t hate the players, hate the game. However what is the point of having a small majority? It means that the mandate is really dependent on the MP delivering results, which because of the Game isn’t really feasible. Those changes will happen, and anything else is just a postponement of the inevitable. Kinda like brexit it was slowed but it was inevitable. I'd wasn't 500 voters though
Nearly 500, I said. Not bang on 500
This is bizarre. The Tory candidate got 15k votes. Why is it only the 500 who are aggrieved?
I meant in the context of margin, whilst it is true there was 15k voters who supported the tories the contest was decided on about 500 votes more than the nearest rival who were labour.
Yes the victory demonstrated that a single issue can tip the balance in closely fought seats.
Now if the tories can repeat the same formula everywhere i.e a single issue which is a local problem in each of its marginals then labour would have more to worry about. It would demonstrate there is no clear path to victory and it would require them to step up their game.
The news has been dominated more about the tories clinging on to one seat rather than the two seats it lost at a quite hefty level.
Which is Silver cloud journalism at its best.
"Labour will win the next GE. I have no doubt. I was more confused by the '500 voters are clearly aggrieved'. | |||
"The ULEZ expansion is standard Tory spin bullshit. As part of the TFL Extraordinary Funding & Finance Agreement to stop TFL going bust in the pandemic Grant Shapps on behalf of the Tory government had the ULEZ expansion written into the agreement. In a letter to Sadiq Khan dated 14.05.2020 that details the conditions for the funding Shapps and the government demanded the following: "The immediate reintroduction of the London Congestion Charge, LEZ and ULEZ and to urgently bring forward to widen the scope and levels of these charges, in accordance with the relevant legal powers and decision-making process". ULEZ expansion was therefore an edict from the Tory government as part of the funding agreement. This is in writing and signed by Grant Shapps as Minister for Transport. But because a Labour Mayor has implemented it they can throw all sorts of shit at him when it proves unpopular with some. Typical Tory 'a big boy did it' runaway blame tactic. And 400 odd Uxbridge swivel-eyed twats swallowed it. Hardly a win. I was reading that thinking the guy has a point. Then you go a throw an insult at anyone who would vote differently to you. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATE. Yeah it’s not the fault of the nearly 500 voters. They are clearly aggrieved. So don’t hate the players, hate the game. However what is the point of having a small majority? It means that the mandate is really dependent on the MP delivering results, which because of the Game isn’t really feasible. Those changes will happen, and anything else is just a postponement of the inevitable. Kinda like brexit it was slowed but it was inevitable. I'd wasn't 500 voters though
Nearly 500, I said. Not bang on 500
This is bizarre. The Tory candidate got 15k votes. Why is it only the 500 who are aggrieved?
I meant in the context of margin, whilst it is true there was 15k voters who supported the tories the contest was decided on about 500 votes more than the nearest rival who were labour.
Yes the victory demonstrated that a single issue can tip the balance in closely fought seats.
Now if the tories can repeat the same formula everywhere i.e a single issue which is a local problem in each of its marginals then labour would have more to worry about. It would demonstrate there is no clear path to victory and it would require them to step up their game.
The news has been dominated more about the tories clinging on to one seat rather than the two seats it lost at a quite hefty level.
Which is Silver cloud journalism at its best.
Labour will win the next GE. I have no doubt.
I was more confused by the '500 voters are clearly aggrieved'."I wish I had your confidence. The Shy Tory is a powerful force indeed. | |||
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"Another one , potentially on the cards , Blackpool South ,with a tory majority of 3690 in 2019 , " ,,,, and .... Another one ... Wellingborough | |||
"Another one , potentially on the cards , Blackpool South ,with a tory majority of 3690 in 2019 , ,,,, and .... Another one ... Wellingborough " Such a shame to see Peter the pervert go… The question is do they put both by elections on the same date to just get them out the way… is it going to be death by a thousand cuts | |||
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"We predict a not Conservative result, given their track record now." Their track record has been appalling for the last 13 years. What's changed that would put people off voting for them? | |||
"We predict a not Conservative result, given their track record now." I agree, there will be a non Tory result here and any other elections including the GE when it happens | |||
"We predict a not Conservative result, given their track record now. Their track record has been appalling for the last 13 years. What's changed that would put people off voting for them?" People have short memories. If 2024 brings low inflation, low interest rates, booming house market, all bets are off. Will voters risk 45% tax like Wales & Scotland? | |||
"We predict a not Conservative result, given their track record now. Their track record has been appalling for the last 13 years. What's changed that would put people off voting for them? People have short memories. If 2024 brings low inflation, low interest rates, booming house market, all bets are off. Will voters risk 45% tax like Wales & Scotland?" No idea. I just don't see what's worse about the Tories over the past 12 months or so. If someone voted for them the last five times, what would stop them from doing the same again? | |||
"Will voters risk 45% tax like Wales & Scotland?" Wales doesn't have a 45% tax. It has exactly the same tax regime as England. | |||
"Will voters risk 45% tax like Wales & Scotland? Wales doesn't have a 45% tax. It has exactly the same tax regime as England." Wales is under labour, Scotland is under the SNP, England is under the Tories.... god help us | |||
"Will voters risk 45% tax like Wales & Scotland? Wales doesn't have a 45% tax. It has exactly the same tax regime as England." Watch this space! | |||
"Will voters risk 45% tax like Wales & Scotland? Wales doesn't have a 45% tax. It has exactly the same tax regime as England. Watch this space!" Why? The power of different marginal tax rates was devolved to the Scottish parliament… it hasn’t been devolved to the Welsh assembly | |||
"Will voters risk 45% tax like Wales & Scotland?" "Wales doesn't have a 45% tax. It has exactly the same tax regime as England." "Watch this space!" "Why?" "The power of different marginal tax rates was devolved to the Scottish parliament… it hasn’t been devolved to the Welsh assembly" The power to raise Income Taxes was devolved to the Welsh assembly in April 2019. They just haven't used it yet. https://www.gov.wales/welsh-rates-income-tax | |||
"Will voters risk 45% tax like Wales & Scotland? Wales doesn't have a 45% tax. It has exactly the same tax regime as England. Watch this space! Why? The power of different marginal tax rates was devolved to the Scottish parliament… it hasn’t been devolved to the Welsh assembly The power to raise Income Taxes was devolved to the Welsh assembly in April 2019. They just haven't used it yet. https://www.gov.wales/welsh-rates-income-tax" Well , maybe they should | |||
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"Wales will follow Scotland to a 45% tax band. They have no choice to cover their burgeoning public expenditure. They are trying to tax businesses, but that just leads to a Socialist death spiral : businesses fold, jobs lost, lower tax revenues ........" The whole of the UK has a 45% tax band doesn't it? For income over £150,000 | |||
"The whole of the UK has a 45% tax band doesn't it? For income over £150,000" England and Wales have that band, but in Scotland the 45% band starts at an income of £75,000, rising to 48% if you get to £125,140. | |||
"Wales will follow Scotland to a 45% tax band. They have no choice to cover their burgeoning public expenditure. They are trying to tax businesses, but that just leads to a Socialist death spiral : businesses fold, jobs lost, lower tax revenues ........ The whole of the UK has a 45% tax band doesn't it? For income over £150,000" Yes, you're right, and it's particularly sneaky because the thresholds can be tweaked without announcing a new band. It's tax by stealth. | |||
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"Rochdale (Thursday 29/02/2024) odds Workers Party (Galloway) ex Labour MP 8/13 Labour , actually ex Labour candidate 6/4 Reform , ex Labour MP 50/1 LibDem 50/1 Tory 150/1 Green 250/1 I think Galloway might just win it but I think it will be close " Galloway the racist? I wonder why Rochdale consider voting for him? | |||
"Rochdale (Thursday 29/02/2024) odds Workers Party (Galloway) ex Labour MP 8/13 Labour , actually ex Labour candidate 6/4 Reform , ex Labour MP 50/1 LibDem 50/1 Tory 150/1 Green 250/1 I think Galloway might just win it but I think it will be close Galloway the racist? I wonder why Rochdale consider voting for him?" why dont you say whats on your mind | |||
"Rochdale (Thursday 29/02/2024) odds Workers Party (Galloway) ex Labour MP 8/13 Labour , actually ex Labour candidate 6/4 Reform , ex Labour MP 50/1 LibDem 50/1 Tory 150/1 Green 250/1 I think Galloway might just win it but I think it will be close Galloway the racist? I wonder why Rochdale consider voting for him?why dont you say whats on your mind " I did. Galloway is racist (at least by modern definition). | |||
"Looks like Blackpool South on the cards " Well he got suspended for 35 days yesterday… I don’t think it’s enough for the automatic recall.. but the write in certainly starts | |||
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"Not so much a by election topic , but now 60 Conservative MPs are not even standing at the next General Election to defend their seat (that has got to be a record ,,,, unless you know differently ) " They know the outcome and don't want the humiliation. Probably busy setting up their next career move | |||
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"ANOTHER one Lee Anderson who was elected as Conservative MP for Ashfield , has now joined Reform Previously in Parliament Anderson had stated (and voted for) MPs who change party should face a recall petition So a by election in Ashfield soon OH , HANG ON A MINUTE " This is a politician your talking about so will do what suits best at the time. Been on quite a journey too starting with Labour then conservative and now reform. It's a shame that recall vote failed otherwise he would not have had choice | |||
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"It is patently ridiculous that an MP who changes party should keep his seat. That should be an automatic by election trigger!" I agree, however only if a by election is also be triggered if someone loses the whip and becomes independent. Its not really any different. | |||
"It is patently ridiculous that an MP who changes party should keep his seat. That should be an automatic by election trigger! I agree, however only if a by election is also be triggered if someone loses the whip and becomes independent. Its not really any different. " Agreed | |||
"It is patently ridiculous that an MP who changes party should keep his seat. That should be an automatic by election trigger!" You think that because you vote along party lines. You're not supposed to. You're supposed to vote for the person that you think will best represent your interests. It shouldn't matter which party that person is affiliated with, as long as they continue to represent the interests that you voted them in for. | |||
"It is patently ridiculous that an MP who changes party should keep his seat. That should be an automatic by election trigger! You think that because you vote along party lines. You're not supposed to. You're supposed to vote for the person that you think will best represent your interests. It shouldn't matter which party that person is affiliated with, as long as they continue to represent the interests that you voted them in for." But the MP will be expected to vote on party lines in the commons. | |||
"It is patently ridiculous that an MP who changes party should keep his seat. That should be an automatic by election trigger!" "You think that because you vote along party lines. You're not supposed to. You're supposed to vote for the person that you think will best represent your interests. It shouldn't matter which party that person is affiliated with, as long as they continue to represent the interests that you voted them in for." "But the MP will be expected to vote on party lines in the commons." They might, they might not. Not all issues are whipped, and not all whips are followed. You're supposed to choose an candidate that best matches your concerns and values. And then let them represent you. If the party moves away from those values, you should expect your MP to stick to their principles and move away from the party. Before anyone asks, no I'm not suggesting that what happened in the Anderson case, I'm just talking on general principles. | |||
"It is patently ridiculous that an MP who changes party should keep his seat. That should be an automatic by election trigger! You think that because you vote along party lines. You're not supposed to. You're supposed to vote for the person that you think will best represent your interests. It shouldn't matter which party that person is affiliated with, as long as they continue to represent the interests that you voted them in for." But that too is patently ridiculous because it assumes your constituency MP will not always go with the party whip! | |||
