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"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? " Statistics appear to back this up - opinium polling has regretful leavers at around 57%. But it means nothing, rejoining isn’t possible anytime soon. We may see a move towards an EFTA type arrangement but it would presumably only occur under a lab or lab-led coalition govt. | |||
"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? " Those who still support Brexit will just say this isn’t brexit they wanted/voted for but ignore the elephant that was that there wasn’t any consensus on what the future relationship with the EU should be post brexit. That is why Cameron should have planned in a two stage referendum so once we voted leave, we then needed a second referendum to determine what that would then mean. | |||
"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? " There's a twitter handle that attempted to show this. I highlighted how several of the posters on twitter they retreated were always remain. There will be a few who change minds either side. But insignificant. | |||
"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? There's a twitter handle that attempted to show this. I highlighted how several of the posters on twitter they retreated were always remain. There will be a few who change minds either side. But insignificant. " Is this the Brexit you voted for / wanted ? | |||
"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? There's a twitter handle that attempted to show this. I highlighted how several of the posters on twitter they retreated were always remain. There will be a few who change minds either side. But insignificant. Is this the Brexit you voted for / wanted ? " It's not the Brexit I voted for or wanted and I blame the Tories for not delivering. I also blame the opposition parties for attempting to block. Happy with a straightforward honest answer? | |||
"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? There's a twitter handle that attempted to show this. I highlighted how several of the posters on twitter they retreated were always remain. There will be a few who change minds either side. But insignificant. Is this the Brexit you voted for / wanted ? It's not the Brexit I voted for or wanted and I blame the Tories for not delivering. I also blame the opposition parties for attempting to block. Happy with a straightforward honest answer?" So we had Remain / Leave. The former had total consensus the latter did not and instead had multiple permutations. There should have been a two stage referendum! | |||
"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? There's a twitter handle that attempted to show this. I highlighted how several of the posters on twitter they retreated were always remain. There will be a few who change minds either side. But insignificant. Is this the Brexit you voted for / wanted ? It's not the Brexit I voted for or wanted and I blame the Tories for not delivering. I also blame the opposition parties for attempting to block. Happy with a straightforward honest answer? So we had Remain / Leave. The former had total consensus the latter did not and instead had multiple permutations. There should have been a two stage referendum!" Then those of your thinking should've asked for it | |||
"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? There's a twitter handle that attempted to show this. I highlighted how several of the posters on twitter they retreated were always remain. There will be a few who change minds either side. But insignificant. Is this the Brexit you voted for / wanted ? It's not the Brexit I voted for or wanted and I blame the Tories for not delivering. I also blame the opposition parties for attempting to block. Happy with a straightforward honest answer? So we had Remain / Leave. The former had total consensus the latter did not and instead had multiple permutations. There should have been a two stage referendum! Then those of your thinking should've asked for it" We did. A lot. Very loudly. Cameron was too arrogant to listen. He never considered Leave getting more votes. | |||
"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? There's a twitter handle that attempted to show this. I highlighted how several of the posters on twitter they retreated were always remain. There will be a few who change minds either side. But insignificant. Is this the Brexit you voted for / wanted ? It's not the Brexit I voted for or wanted and I blame the Tories for not delivering. I also blame the opposition parties for attempting to block. Happy with a straightforward honest answer? So we had Remain / Leave. The former had total consensus the latter did not and instead had multiple permutations. There should have been a two stage referendum! Then those of your thinking should've asked for it" The first proponent of two referendums was Jacob Rees-Mogg. He backtracked when leave won the first one, of course. | |||
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"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane." You’re assuming the people in the poll could read! | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane." Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient " The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality." Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? | |||
"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? There's a twitter handle that attempted to show this. I highlighted how several of the posters on twitter they retreated were always remain. There will be a few who change minds either side. But insignificant. Is this the Brexit you voted for / wanted ? " No. I wanted us to diverge more from the financial services side. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote?" He'd rather just throw insults than discuss | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane." 9 %, as high as that ? | |||
"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? There's a twitter handle that attempted to show this. I highlighted how several of the posters on twitter they retreated were always remain. There will be a few who change minds either side. But insignificant. Is this the Brexit you voted for / wanted ? It's not the Brexit I voted for or wanted and I blame the Tories for not delivering. I also blame the opposition parties for attempting to block. Happy with a straightforward honest answer?" Thanks for admitting that you didn’t know what you were voting for  | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote?" Why don't you think I've accepted it's happened? It would be absolutely insane to suggest we're still a member of the EU. I didn't lose the vote. I was not campaigning to remain. What's any of this got to do with the 9% that still think it was a good idea? | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. 9 %, as high as that ? " Who knows. But it could be upto 9%. Bonkers. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote?" It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit." What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic " You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. | |||
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"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad." Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless " Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. " There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. | |||
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"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. " And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. | |||
"The thing about the 2016 referendum was, both parties were pro-EU when it took place. And because we live in a two-party state, one of them was always going to have to take us out of it, if brexit won. Labour were in opposition and never looking near government. It was a Cameron government that took us to the polls, I don't think it would have been wise to assume a Conservative government after him would have diverged a lot from the EU post-brexit. Arguably we've diverged more than many argued for because we are not in the single market, customs union or many of the other European-orientated structures. The idea that people honestly believed we'd diverge more than we have done from what was the offering in 2016 is insanity. Brexit has been predictably awful and the polling reflects this. I saw the 9% figure and I didn't believe it but it's true. I don't blame the millions who voted for it in good faith. I blame the liars and the charlatans that knew it was economic illiteracy yet peddled it regardless. I think Labour will fight the election after next on even closer re-alignment with the EEA, unless they fall short of a majority next year. In which case, that'll be the price to pay for a Lib Dem government arrangement and it'll come sooner. It's completely unsustainable to have public opinion so at odds with something as important as this. We need not be in the EU again, but we can be closer to it, just as other non-EU European countries are. But they will come with trade-offs, as they were always going to. " Good post and it will be where we end up. Relationships need to be rebuilt politically and socially, we need to build the social side of things and stop the mindless hindsight bickering, until that happens our political future will be lagging behind | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. " I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. " And yet here I am in the exact same position as yourself. I've only been saying it on these forums for at least 2 years, deaf ears and something to do with falling springs to mind. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. " What is the way forward? | |||
"Heard somewhere there are a lot of people who voted leave who are now classed as Regrexiteers those who wished we never left the EU. Is this a thing now? Or is it just all lies? There's a twitter handle that attempted to show this. I highlighted how several of the posters on twitter they retreated were always remain. There will be a few who change minds either side. But insignificant. Is this the Brexit you voted for / wanted ? It's not the Brexit I voted for or wanted and I blame the Tories for not delivering. I also blame the opposition parties for attempting to block. Happy with a straightforward honest answer? Thanks for admitting that you didn’t know what you were voting for "Excuse me? Don't talk out of your backside, that's not what I said | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? Why don't you think I've accepted it's happened? It would be absolutely insane to suggest we're still a member of the EU. I didn't lose the vote. I was not campaigning to remain. What's any of this got to do with the 9% that still think it was a good idea?" It's done! Your comments are irrelevant! Deal with it and move on FFS | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. " I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy " Deal with it. Once upon a time that was the attitude that put the great in GB | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy " Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Deal with it. Once upon a time that was the attitude that put the great in GB " Deal with casually losing rights? You’re sure that’s a hill you want to die on, Pal? | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book." O dear, you obviously haven’t got a clue why it’s called ‘great ‘ Britain | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book." Sure. I used to have the right to live and work in 31 different countries. Now I don’t. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book." Freedom of movement | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. O dear, you obviously haven’t got a clue why it’s called ‘great ‘ Britain "So you can not say what rights have been removed. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement "Lol. explain please | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please"https://blogs.kent.ac.uk/eu-rights-clinic/brexit-deal-or-no-deal/ | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please"Google ‘freedom of movement , Brexit ‘ | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please"How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject? | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Sure. I used to have the right to live and work in 31 different countries. Now I don’t. " So these countries want you, yes, I'm sure they will let you move there and work there, you only have to ask. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject? "So you can not live or work in the eu.? | |||
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"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? Why don't you think I've accepted it's happened? It would be absolutely insane to suggest we're still a member of the EU. I didn't lose the vote. I was not campaigning to remain. What's any of this got to do with the 9% that still think it was a good idea? It's done! Your comments are irrelevant! Deal with it and move on FFS " We know it's done. You seem to think people are saying it's not done. It definitely is. Are you one of the 9%? | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Deal with it. Once upon a time that was the attitude that put the great in GB " But nowadays it's flushing the country down the shitter faster than you can say "brexit". | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?"Oh, you want to move the goalposts now? | |||
"How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject? " You do know you can work, travel and even retire in the EU post Brexit? Digital nomad is a fantastic option if you are considering work. What other element isn't going to work for you, maybe we can help resolve? 2 heads are better than one | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
"You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you. | |||
"How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject? You do know you can work, travel and even retire in the EU post Brexit? Digital nomad is a fantastic option if you are considering work. What other element isn't going to work for you, maybe we can help resolve? 2 heads are better than one "We were discussing rights. Specifically rights lost due to Brexit. Are you denying that the right to live and work in 31 countries was lost the day we left the EU? | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you."So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct? So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right? Glad we got there in the end. | |||
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"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end. "You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back. "Poland is a great place I like it a lot - why don’t you stay longer… say for 3 months or more…. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Poland is a great place I like it a lot - why don’t you stay longer… say for 3 months or more….
"Seemingly in our 20 years of membership more brits chose to move to Australia than the e.u. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Poland is a great place I like it a lot - why don’t you stay longer… say for 3 months or more….
Seemingly in our 20 years of membership more brits chose to move to Australia than the e.u.
"That's interesting. Where did those statistics come from? Not something that I've seen. Only this: 33% of all British-born emigrants living outside the UK in 2017 lived in Australia or New Zealand, 28% lived in the US or Canada and 26% in the EU That's not in the last 20 years though. It's living there in 2017 having moved there at any time. "Seemingly" 50% of British immigrants to Australia with permanent visas return within five years. Not that it really matters. It will be more complicated for a lot of people to move permanently to an EU country if they wish to. Is that a benefit to them? | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Poland is a great place I like it a lot - why don’t you stay longer… say for 3 months or more….
Seemingly in our 20 years of membership more brits chose to move to Australia than the e.u.
That's interesting. Where did those statistics come from? Not something that I've seen.
Only this:
33% of all British-born emigrants living outside the UK in 2017 lived in Australia or New Zealand, 28% lived in the US or Canada and 26% in the EU
That's not in the last 20 years though. It's living there in 2017 having moved there at any time.
"Seemingly" 50% of British immigrants to Australia with permanent visas return within five years.
Not that it really matters. It will be more complicated for a lot of people to move permanently to an EU country if they wish to. Is that a benefit to them?"From home affairs.gov.au "Population. At the end of June 2021, almost 1.2 million people who were born in the United Kingdom were living in Australia, " From the ons 2018 numbers latest release " 784,900 British citizens live in the EU, excluding the UK and Ireland on 1 January 2017." Estimations from the un in 2019 "2019, according to UN data, 1.3 million people born in the UK lived in EU countries." So ireland makes up about 45% of all brits living in the e.u butbthisnis an estimation because of the transient nature of the freedom of movement in Ireland. Brits chose to move 12k miles away to Australia than France, Spain, Italy,Poland. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Poland is a great place I like it a lot - why don’t you stay longer… say for 3 months or more….
Seemingly in our 20 years of membership more brits chose to move to Australia than the e.u.
That's interesting. Where did those statistics come from? Not something that I've seen.
Only this:
33% of all British-born emigrants living outside the UK in 2017 lived in Australia or New Zealand, 28% lived in the US or Canada and 26% in the EU
That's not in the last 20 years though. It's living there in 2017 having moved there at any time.
"Seemingly" 50% of British immigrants to Australia with permanent visas return within five years.
Not that it really matters. It will be more complicated for a lot of people to move permanently to an EU country if they wish to. Is that a benefit to them?
From home affairs.gov.au
"Population. At the end of June 2021, almost 1.2 million people who were born in the United Kingdom were living in Australia, "
From the ons 2018 numbers latest release
"
784,900 British citizens live in the EU, excluding the UK and Ireland on 1 January 2017."
Estimations from the un in 2019
"2019, according to UN data, 1.3 million people born in the UK lived in EU countries."
So ireland makes up about 45% of all brits living in the e.u butbthisnis an estimation because of the transient nature of the freedom of movement in Ireland.
Brits chose to move 12k miles away to Australia than France, Spain, Italy,Poland.
""It will be more complicated for a lot of people to move permanently to an EU country if they wish to. Is that a benefit to them?" The figures do not distinguish between those moved 20 years ago or more than that. I didn't disagree with the fact that more people moved to Australia and New Zealand than the EU. The figures indicate a preference to move to English speaking countries. No suprise, although the Ireland figures seem particularly high. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back. "Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that? | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that?"Where are you emigrating to. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that?
Where are you emigrating to."Any one of the 31 EU assoc nations that I previously had the right live and work in prior to Brexit. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that?
Where are you emigrating to.
Any one of the 31 EU assoc nations that I previously had the right live and work in prior to Brexit. "You are simply saying a thing you were never going to do is something you now can't do. If you wanted to emigrate you can, you will now need to satisfy the requirements of entry for the country you are moving to. I had this exact same feeling and view when we left the EU, I have now got over it and accepted it for what it is, it is taking you a little longer to accept change. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that?
Where are you emigrating to.
Any one of the 31 EU assoc nations that I previously had the right live and work in prior to Brexit.
You are simply saying a thing you were never going to do is something you now can't do.
If you wanted to emigrate you can, you will now need to satisfy the requirements of entry for the country you are moving to.
I had this exact same feeling and view when we left the EU, I have now got over it and accepted it for what it is, it is taking you a little longer to accept change."No, in response to the question ‘which rights have we lost’, I’m pointing out that we all used to have *the right* to do something, and now we don’t. It’s really not that hard to understand. (And for your info I was planning on emigrating, and hopefully still will be able to - but once again, it’ll be harder, more expensive, and come with strings attached that never used to - because we no longer have the right to do so) | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that?
Where are you emigrating to.
Any one of the 31 EU assoc nations that I previously had the right live and work in prior to Brexit. "Name one eu country that you would like to emigrate to. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that?
Where are you emigrating to.
Any one of the 31 EU assoc nations that I previously had the right live and work in prior to Brexit.
Name one eu country that you would like to emigrate to. "I plan on emigrating to Italy - but as I’m sure you’re smart enough to understand, that’s not the point being made. I used to have the right to live and work in 31 other nations. I could go tomorrow if I wanted to. But how I can’t, because we left the EU. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that?
Where are you emigrating to.
Any one of the 31 EU assoc nations that I previously had the right live and work in prior to Brexit.
You are simply saying a thing you were never going to do is something you now can't do.
If you wanted to emigrate you can, you will now need to satisfy the requirements of entry for the country you are moving to.
I had this exact same feeling and view when we left the EU, I have now got over it and accepted it for what it is, it is taking you a little longer to accept change.
No, in response to the question ‘which rights have we lost’, I’m pointing out that we all used to have *the right* to do something, and now we don’t.
It’s really not that hard to understand. (And for your info I was planning on emigrating, and hopefully still will be able to - but once again, it’ll be harder, more expensive, and come with strings attached that never used to - because we no longer have the right to do so)
"It maybe a blessing in disguise, if you had have made the move before Brexit, once we left you might have found yourself not qualifying to stay. Whereas now you will be fine. You keep saying it is not that to understand..... | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that?
Where are you emigrating to.
Any one of the 31 EU assoc nations that I previously had the right live and work in prior to Brexit.
You are simply saying a thing you were never going to do is something you now can't do.
If you wanted to emigrate you can, you will now need to satisfy the requirements of entry for the country you are moving to.
I had this exact same feeling and view when we left the EU, I have now got over it and accepted it for what it is, it is taking you a little longer to accept change.
No, in response to the question ‘which rights have we lost’, I’m pointing out that we all used to have *the right* to do something, and now we don’t.
It’s really not that hard to understand. (And for your info I was planning on emigrating, and hopefully still will be able to - but once again, it’ll be harder, more expensive, and come with strings attached that never used to - because we no longer have the right to do so)
It maybe a blessing in disguise, if you had have made the move before Brexit, once we left you might have found yourself not qualifying to stay. Whereas now you will be fine.
You keep saying it is not that to understand....."I’m gonna tap out of this convo now because ima question was raised about lost rights due to Brexit. I have outlined a very easily explained lost right, and now you and others are attempting to justify that lost right. Justify all you like, maybe you don’t care about losing that right, but some of us do. Some of us planned on using it, some of us are against losing rights as a principle, some of us want to slowly move towards a borderless world, not take two steps back. So, once again. Brexit lost U.K citizens rights. Unarguable. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that?
Where are you emigrating to.
Any one of the 31 EU assoc nations that I previously had the right live and work in prior to Brexit.
You are simply saying a thing you were never going to do is something you now can't do.
If you wanted to emigrate you can, you will now need to satisfy the requirements of entry for the country you are moving to.
I had this exact same feeling and view when we left the EU, I have now got over it and accepted it for what it is, it is taking you a little longer to accept change.
No, in response to the question ‘which rights have we lost’, I’m pointing out that we all used to have *the right* to do something, and now we don’t.
It’s really not that hard to understand. (And for your info I was planning on emigrating, and hopefully still will be able to - but once again, it’ll be harder, more expensive, and come with strings attached that never used to - because we no longer have the right to do so)
It maybe a blessing in disguise, if you had have made the move before Brexit, once we left you might have found yourself not qualifying to stay. Whereas now you will be fine.
You keep saying it is not that to understand.....
I’m gonna tap out of this convo now because ima question was raised about lost rights due to Brexit.
I have outlined a very easily explained lost right, and now you and others are attempting to justify that lost right.
Justify all you like, maybe you don’t care about losing that right, but some of us do. Some of us planned on using it, some of us are against losing rights as a principle, some of us want to slowly move towards a borderless world, not take two steps back.
So, once again. Brexit lost U.K citizens rights. Unarguable. "I hope you succeed in emigrating to Italy | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that?
Where are you emigrating to.
Any one of the 31 EU assoc nations that I previously had the right live and work in prior to Brexit.
You are simply saying a thing you were never going to do is something you now can't do.
If you wanted to emigrate you can, you will now need to satisfy the requirements of entry for the country you are moving to.
I had this exact same feeling and view when we left the EU, I have now got over it and accepted it for what it is, it is taking you a little longer to accept change.
No, in response to the question ‘which rights have we lost’, I’m pointing out that we all used to have *the right* to do something, and now we don’t.
It’s really not that hard to understand. (And for your info I was planning on emigrating, and hopefully still will be able to - but once again, it’ll be harder, more expensive, and come with strings attached that never used to - because we no longer have the right to do so)
It maybe a blessing in disguise, if you had have made the move before Brexit, once we left you might have found yourself not qualifying to stay. Whereas now you will be fine.
You keep saying it is not that to understand.....
I’m gonna tap out of this convo now because ima question was raised about lost rights due to Brexit.
I have outlined a very easily explained lost right, and now you and others are attempting to justify that lost right.
Justify all you like, maybe you don’t care about losing that right, but some of us do. Some of us planned on using it, some of us are against losing rights as a principle, some of us want to slowly move towards a borderless world, not take two steps back.
So, once again. Brexit lost U.K citizens rights. Unarguable. "The thing with rights is they are given and taken often, most people only see it when they're personally affected. I lost 'the right' to sell plenty of my products into the EU (Inc. UK) in 2019 because the law was changed, regardless of businesses being destroyed or having to adapt. You see, I had no choice in the decision and it was adapt or fail. We adapted, same thing we need to do with new Brexit laws. | |||
"There was a recent pole that suggested upto 9% of people think brexit is going well. Utterly bonkers. And I know you can never tell how accurate surveys are. But even if it's half that. Still pretty insane. Your point is what? People are fickle and impatient The point is. Some people still think Brexit was a good idea and is going well. Even if it's 0.001% that's alarming how detached some people are from reality. Are you ever going to accept its happened and look forward or will you spend your time whining about how you lost a vote? It’s entirely possible to accept that it happened, whilst also pointing out the abject horror show that it’s turning out to be. Especially if you were one of the ones who tried to warn of said horror show. It’s the fingers-in-the-ears brexiters who should really own their shit. What is the horror show? I’ve put up a thread about Brexit impacts and to be honest it is not showing any horrors, changes yes but nothing catastrophic You know that Brexit has already cost us more than membership? For no tangible benefit at all. Have you seen the economic impact since the referendum result? Nothing catastrophic? Give your head a wobble, lad. Be specific, throwing numbers about is meaningless Go to google. Type in ‘cost of Brexit vs remain’. Read the myriad articles and pieces thereafter. You’re welcome. There are multiple costs to our economy that are detrimental today and will be tomorrow. The vote was cast and the result has been in, it is our job to get on with the hand the majority dealt us. And we’re absolutely still allowed to point at the Brexit failings and say ‘we tried to warn you’ - because people should be held to account for their lies. Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I voted remain, I’m also starting to become ashamed of those that shared my views, as they become intolerant to the vote. Torture through “I told you so” is not the way forward. I’m sorry but I’ve had rights removed. My kids have had rights removed. We’ve tanked our economy. People have lost jobs, businesses have had to close. Forgive me for not being overly accepting of those who foisted this on us whilst telling everyone how amazing it was going to be, and accused us remainers of peddling ‘project fear’ When you can lie with impunity, without fear of recourse, you no longer have a functioning democracy Can you name the ""rights that have been erased or crossed out from the good book. Freedom of movement
Lol. explain please
How is it 2023 and people still don’t understand the right to live and work in EU nations? Presumably you voted in the referendum? Considered yourself knowledgable enough on the subject?
So you can not live or work in the eu.?
Oh, you want to move the goalposts now?
You are saying that your right to live and work in the eu has been removed tipexed out from the good book, I am saying it has not, it all depends if the country you want move to and make a home want you. Like I said you can apply to that country but at the end of the day does that country want you.
So it’s not a right that I possess now? Yet it was one that I possessed prior to leaving the EU, correct?
So we’re agreed that Brexit removed that right?
Glad we got there in the end.
You can work live even retire to the eu so how have your rights been removed, I'm off to Poland in a week guess what to work and live there for 2 months then I'll be back.
Could I just up and leave and decide to move there permanently? Would I have the right to do that?
Where are you emigrating to.
Any one of the 31 EU assoc nations that I previously had the right live and work in prior to Brexit.
You are simply saying a thing you were never going to do is something you now can't do.
If you wanted to emigrate you can, you will now need to satisfy the requirements of entry for the country you are moving to.
I had this exact same feeling and view when we left the EU, I have now got over it and accepted it for what it is, it is taking you a little longer to accept change.
No, in response to the question ‘which rights have we lost’, I’m pointing out that we all used to have *the right* to do something, and now we don’t.
It’s really not that hard to understand. (And for your info I was planning on emigrating, and hopefully still will be able to - but once again, it’ll be harder, more expensive, and come with strings attached that never used to - because we no longer have the right to do so)
It maybe a blessing in disguise, if you had have made the move before Brexit, once we left you might have found yourself not qualifying to stay. Whereas now you will be fine.
You keep saying it is not that to understand.....
I’m gonna tap out of this convo now because ima question was raised about lost rights due to Brexit.
I have outlined a very easily explained lost right, and now you and others are attempting to justify that lost right.
Justify all you like, maybe you don’t care about losing that right, but some of us do. Some of us planned on using it, some of us are against losing rights as a principle, some of us want to slowly move towards a borderless world, not take two steps back.
So, once again. Brexit lost U.K citizens rights. Unarguable.
The thing with rights is they are given and taken often, most people only see it when they're personally affected.
I lost 'the right' to sell plenty of my products into the EU (Inc. UK) in 2019 because the law was changed, regardless of businesses being destroyed or having to adapt.
You see, I had no choice in the decision and it was adapt or fail. We adapted, same thing we need to do with new Brexit laws."Agree with this to an extent, it is what must be done. But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. | |||
"Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. " I agree that Farage would not have given up, and I agree that remainers should not just be quiet about it. But what remainers should be doing, is calling for us to rejoin the EU, and laying out the benefits so everyone can see what a good idea it is. This constant talking about how bad Brexit is doesn't achieve anything. If you want things to be better, tell us all how to get to a better place, don't just moan that we shouldn't have to start from what we are. | |||
"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. " I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible. | |||
"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible." Increased manufacturing, GDP, trade etc are tangible in the sense that they relate to a physical product or money. Rights are also tangible in that they can be utilised. | |||
"Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I agree that Farage would not have given up, and I agree that remainers should not just be quiet about it. But what remainers should be doing, is calling for us to rejoin the EU, and laying out the benefits so everyone can see what a good idea it is. This constant talking about how bad Brexit is doesn't achieve anything. If you want things to be better, tell us all how to get to a better place, don't just moan that we shouldn't have to start from what we are." Eurosceptics moaned for 30-40 years so I think remain voters have a few decades of moaning to go just yet! | |||
"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible." Not really though...freedom of movement was a tangible (ie real) benefit for people who wanted to live and work in another EU country without any barriers. | |||
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"Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I agree that Farage would not have given up, and I agree that remainers should not just be quiet about it. But what remainers should be doing, is calling for us to rejoin the EU, and laying out the benefits so everyone can see what a good idea it is. This constant talking about how bad Brexit is doesn't achieve anything. If you want things to be better, tell us all how to get to a better place, don't just moan that we shouldn't have to start from what we are." My opinion is that a proper investigation needs to be undertaken to see what is the best way forward, what's the best way to mitigate against, and even undo some of the damage done by brexit. Basically the opposite of what we did in with the referendum. Once we have a list of options, and the evidence to back up the pros and cons of each. Then we'd be in a situation where we can see a clear path. The problem is, the government, and the opposition are still trying to pretend Brexit was a good idea. So no attempt is ever going to be made to look at what the solution would be. | |||
"Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I agree that Farage would not have given up, and I agree that remainers should not just be quiet about it. But what remainers should be doing, is calling for us to rejoin the EU, and laying out the benefits so everyone can see what a good idea it is. This constant talking about how bad Brexit is doesn't achieve anything. If you want things to be better, tell us all how to get to a better place, don't just moan that we shouldn't have to start from what we are. My opinion is that a proper investigation needs to be undertaken to see what is the best way forward, what's the best way to mitigate against, and even undo some of the damage done by brexit. Basically the opposite of what we did in with the referendum. Once we have a list of options, and the evidence to back up the pros and cons of each. Then we'd be in a situation where we can see a clear path. The problem is, the government, and the opposition are still trying to pretend Brexit was a good idea. So no attempt is ever going to be made to look at what the solution would be. " If there’s one lesson to be learned from 2016, it’s that referendums are a pretty bad idea so long as you have a largely apolitical public who are unaware of the issue they’re voting upon. Throw into the mix targeted advertising, campaigns who are willing to literally lie brazenly about the impact of the vote, and you have a recipe for disaster. | |||
"Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I agree that Farage would not have given up, and I agree that remainers should not just be quiet about it. But what remainers should be doing, is calling for us to rejoin the EU, and laying out the benefits so everyone can see what a good idea it is. This constant talking about how bad Brexit is doesn't achieve anything. If you want things to be better, tell us all how to get to a better place, don't just moan that we shouldn't have to start from what we are. My opinion is that a proper investigation needs to be undertaken to see what is the best way forward, what's the best way to mitigate against, and even undo some of the damage done by brexit. Basically the opposite of what we did in with the referendum. Once we have a list of options, and the evidence to back up the pros and cons of each. Then we'd be in a situation where we can see a clear path. The problem is, the government, and the opposition are still trying to pretend Brexit was a good idea. So no attempt is ever going to be made to look at what the solution would be. If there’s one lesson to be learned from 2016, it’s that referendums are a pretty bad idea so long as you have a largely apolitical public who are unaware of the issue they’re voting upon. Throw into the mix targeted advertising, campaigns who are willing to literally lie brazenly about the impact of the vote, and you have a recipe for disaster. " Agreed. We were told immediate recession amd 500k job losses. Lying is horrible. | |||
"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits." "I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible." "Increased manufacturing, GDP, trade etc are tangible in the sense that they relate to a physical product or money. Rights are also tangible in that they can be utilised." No. Tangible means that it has a physical form. You can't hold 'increased manufacturing' in your hand, or wrap up 'GDP' in pretty paper. You can't pick up someone's 'rights' and put them on the top of the wardrobe. 'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'. | |||
"Agreed. We were told immediate recession amd 500k job losses. Lying is horrible." Don't forget that we'd no longer be able to buy French wine, or that all UK citizens living abroad would be forced to sell up and come back here. | |||
"Had remain won in June 2016, Farage wouldn’t have folded his tent and gone quietly - I don’t believe remainers should do so either. I agree that Farage would not have given up, and I agree that remainers should not just be quiet about it. But what remainers should be doing, is calling for us to rejoin the EU, and laying out the benefits so everyone can see what a good idea it is. This constant talking about how bad Brexit is doesn't achieve anything. If you want things to be better, tell us all how to get to a better place, don't just moan that we shouldn't have to start from what we are. My opinion is that a proper investigation needs to be undertaken to see what is the best way forward, what's the best way to mitigate against, and even undo some of the damage done by brexit. Basically the opposite of what we did in with the referendum. Once we have a list of options, and the evidence to back up the pros and cons of each. Then we'd be in a situation where we can see a clear path. The problem is, the government, and the opposition are still trying to pretend Brexit was a good idea. So no attempt is ever going to be made to look at what the solution would be. If there’s one lesson to be learned from 2016, it’s that referendums are a pretty bad idea so long as you have a largely apolitical public who are unaware of the issue they’re voting upon. Throw into the mix targeted advertising, campaigns who are willing to literally lie brazenly about the impact of the vote, and you have a recipe for disaster. Agreed. We were told immediate recession amd 500k job losses. Lying is horrible." We were told Trade deal with the USA Easiest deal in history No downsides to Brexit Lower immigration Less asylum seekers Cheaper food and energy Sunlit uplands Etc etc etc | |||
"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible. Increased manufacturing, GDP, trade etc are tangible in the sense that they relate to a physical product or money. Rights are also tangible in that they can be utilised. No. Tangible means that it has a physical form. You can't hold 'increased manufacturing' in your hand, or wrap up 'GDP' in pretty paper. You can't pick up someone's 'rights' and put them on the top of the wardrobe. 'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'." Tangible : capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch : palpable. : substantially real : material. : capable of being precisely identified or realized by the mind. | |||
"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible. Increased manufacturing, GDP, trade etc are tangible in the sense that they relate to a physical product or money. Rights are also tangible in that they can be utilised. No. Tangible means that it has a physical form. You can't hold 'increased manufacturing' in your hand, or wrap up 'GDP' in pretty paper. You can't pick up someone's 'rights' and put them on the top of the wardrobe. 'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'. Tangible : capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch : palpable. : substantially real : material. : capable of being precisely identified or realized by the mind. "I guess that depends on which dictionary you want to believe today  | |||
"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible. Increased manufacturing, GDP, trade etc are tangible in the sense that they relate to a physical product or money. Rights are also tangible in that they can be utilised. No. Tangible means that it has a physical form. You can't hold 'increased manufacturing' in your hand, or wrap up 'GDP' in pretty paper. You can't pick up someone's 'rights' and put them on the top of the wardrobe. 'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'. Tangible : capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch : palpable. : substantially real : material. : capable of being precisely identified or realized by the mind.
I guess that depends on which dictionary you want to believe today "The main thing is to argue endlessly over the nuances of the meaning of one specific word and completely ignore the points being made. | |||
"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible. Increased manufacturing, GDP, trade etc are tangible in the sense that they relate to a physical product or money. Rights are also tangible in that they can be utilised. No. Tangible means that it has a physical form. You can't hold 'increased manufacturing' in your hand, or wrap up 'GDP' in pretty paper. You can't pick up someone's 'rights' and put them on the top of the wardrobe. 'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'. Tangible : capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch : palpable. : substantially real : material. : capable of being precisely identified or realized by the mind.
I guess that depends on which dictionary you want to believe today
The main thing is to argue endlessly over the nuances of the meaning of one specific word and completely ignore the points being made.
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"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible. Increased manufacturing, GDP, trade etc are tangible in the sense that they relate to a physical product or money. Rights are also tangible in that they can be utilised. No. Tangible means that it has a physical form. You can't hold 'increased manufacturing' in your hand, or wrap up 'GDP' in pretty paper. You can't pick up someone's 'rights' and put them on the top of the wardrobe. 'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'. Tangible : capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch : palpable. : substantially real : material. : capable of being precisely identified or realized by the mind.
I guess that depends on which dictionary you want to believe today
The main thing is to argue endlessly over the nuances of the meaning of one specific word and completely ignore the points being made.
Tbh, I completely ignore them now, "Why? Have I upset your feelings? You do regularly dismiss certain dictionaries. Tbf, Discretion's definition is in the dictionary, as is others. | |||
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"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible. Increased manufacturing, GDP, trade etc are tangible in the sense that they relate to a physical product or money. Rights are also tangible in that they can be utilised. No. Tangible means that it has a physical form. You can't hold 'increased manufacturing' in your hand, or wrap up 'GDP' in pretty paper. You can't pick up someone's 'rights' and put them on the top of the wardrobe. 'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'." NO! That is one meaning of “tangible”. The Cambridge Dictionary says... real and not imaginary; able to be shown, touched, or experienced: - We need tangible evidence if we're going to take legal action. - Other tangible benefits include an increase in salary and shorter working hours. | |||
"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible. Increased manufacturing, GDP, trade etc are tangible in the sense that they relate to a physical product or money. Rights are also tangible in that they can be utilised. No. Tangible means that it has a physical form. You can't hold 'increased manufacturing' in your hand, or wrap up 'GDP' in pretty paper. You can't pick up someone's 'rights' and put them on the top of the wardrobe. 'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'. Tangible : capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch : palpable. : substantially real : material. : capable of being precisely identified or realized by the mind.
I guess that depends on which dictionary you want to believe today
The main thing is to argue endlessly over the nuances of the meaning of one specific word and completely ignore the points being made.
Tbh, I completely ignore them now,
Why? Have I upset your feelings?
You do regularly dismiss certain dictionaries. Tbf, Discretion's definition is in the dictionary, as is others."Discretion is wrong. Plain and simple. Totally disingenuous to claim something is the only truth when in fact (in this case) there are clearly other definitions of the word which he knows are widely used. It is a tactic he often deploys to either detail discussion, close down an angle of discussion or swallow up the space in a thread with needless pedantry (because he knew what was meant when people used the word “tangible”). | |||
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"But for those exporting/importing (in)to the UK we are a smaller market under a different regulatory framework than the EU, making us less competitive. And for no tangible benefits. I can't ignore it any more. 'Tangible' means 'a physical object, literally: a thing that can be touched'. None of the benefits of EU membership (or Brexit) are tangible. Increased manufacturing, GDP, trade etc are tangible in the sense that they relate to a physical product or money. Rights are also tangible in that they can be utilised. No. Tangible means that it has a physical form. You can't hold 'increased manufacturing' in your hand, or wrap up 'GDP' in pretty paper. You can't pick up someone's 'rights' and put them on the top of the wardrobe. 'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'. Tangible : capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch : palpable. : substantially real : material. : capable of being precisely identified or realized by the mind.
I guess that depends on which dictionary you want to believe today
The main thing is to argue endlessly over the nuances of the meaning of one specific word and completely ignore the points being made.
Tbh, I completely ignore them now,
Why? Have I upset your feelings?
You do regularly dismiss certain dictionaries. Tbf, Discretion's definition is in the dictionary, as is others.
Discretion is wrong. Plain and simple. Totally disingenuous to claim something is the only truth when in fact (in this case) there are clearly other definitions of the word which he knows are widely used. It is a tactic he often deploys to either detail discussion, close down an angle of discussion or swallow up the space in a thread with needless pedantry (because he knew what was meant when people used the word “tangible”)."His definition is correct, as are others. Think I already said that. Where he is wrong is dismissing other definitions I was more getting at people regularly dismissing certain definitions because they aren't in their 'diary of the day'. I think we all know what 'tangible benefits' means. | |||
"'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'." "NO! That is one meaning of “tangible”. The Cambridge Dictionary says... real and not imaginary; able to be shown, touched, or experienced: - We need tangible evidence if we're going to take legal action. - Other tangible benefits include an increase in salary and shorter working hours." Good grief! Do they not teach Latin and Greek at schools any more? Does no one care about the origins of words? Tch! The youth of today ... grumble grumble ... No moral fibre ... grumble grumble ... Country's going to the dogs ... etc. | |||
"We were told immediate recession amd 500k job losses. Lying is horrible." "We were told Trade deal with the USA Easiest deal in history No downsides to Brexit Lower immigration Less asylum seekers Cheaper food and energy Sunlit uplands Etc etc etc" So can we all agree that both sides lied during the Brexit campaign? | |||
"'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'. NO! That is one meaning of “tangible”. The Cambridge Dictionary says... real and not imaginary; able to be shown, touched, or experienced: - We need tangible evidence if we're going to take legal action. - Other tangible benefits include an increase in salary and shorter working hours. Good grief! Do they not teach Latin and Greek at schools any more? Does no one care about the origins of words? Tch! The youth of today ... grumble grumble ... No moral fibre ... grumble grumble ... Country's going to the dogs ... etc."  ha ha but you need to move with the times grandpa 
You do know that the meaning and use of words can change over time? For example... GAY
Anyway, I will see that as you, amusingly, conceding the point | |||
"Sorry to derail the thread. I didn't think anyone would care what I thought about one particular word. To try to get back to it: We were told immediate recession amd 500k job losses. Lying is horrible. We were told Trade deal with the USA Easiest deal in history No downsides to Brexit Lower immigration Less asylum seekers Cheaper food and energy Sunlit uplands Etc etc etc So can we all agree that both sides lied during the Brexit campaign?" 1. We always care what you say! 2. Yes all sides lied. The whole brexit debate was pitifully light on genuine honest debate. | |||
"'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'. NO! That is one meaning of “tangible”. The Cambridge Dictionary says... real and not imaginary; able to be shown, touched, or experienced: - We need tangible evidence if we're going to take legal action. - Other tangible benefits include an increase in salary and shorter working hours. Good grief! Do they not teach Latin and Greek at schools any more? Does no one care about the origins of words? Tch! The youth of today ... grumble grumble ... No moral fibre ... grumble grumble ... Country's going to the dogs ... etc. ha ha but you need to move with the times grandpa
You do know that the meaning and use of words can change over time? For example... GAY
Anyway, I will see that as you, amusingly, conceding the point "Tangible on its own is not the same as tangible benefits. Maybe it should be written Tangible-benefits. | |||
"'Tangible' does not mean 'real', it means 'touchable'. NO! That is one meaning of “tangible”. The Cambridge Dictionary says... real and not imaginary; able to be shown, touched, or experienced: - We need tangible evidence if we're going to take legal action. - Other tangible benefits include an increase in salary and shorter working hours. Good grief! Do they not teach Latin and Greek at schools any more? Does no one care about the origins of words? Tch! The youth of today ... grumble grumble ... No moral fibre ... grumble grumble ... Country's going to the dogs ... etc. ha ha but you need to move with the times grandpa
You do know that the meaning and use of words can change over time? For example... GAY
Anyway, I will see that as you, amusingly, conceding the point
Tangible on its own is not the same as tangible benefits. Maybe it should be written Tangible-benefits.
"No need for a hyphen. They are tangible benefits or intangible benefits (better known as Brexit benefits) | |||
"You do know that the meaning and use of words can change over time? For example... GAY" I do. For those that don't know, 'tangible' comes from the Latin root word 'tangere' meaning 'to touch'. It literally means 'a thing that can be touched'. But in recent years people have started using it to add emphasis, so now it has come to mean 'measurable or quantifiable'. Dictionaries quite rightly have recorded this usage, since English dictionaries record how the language *is* used, not how it *should be* used. Now don't get me started on modern people and the word 'literally'. But that's enough digression, let's get back to the topic. We all agree that lies were told on both sides before the referendum. We all agree that we are where we are, and we need to move forward from here. Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? | |||
"You do know that the meaning and use of words can change over time? For example... GAY I do. For those that don't know, 'tangible' comes from the Latin root word 'tangere' meaning 'to touch'. It literally means 'a thing that can be touched'. But in recent years people have started using it to add emphasis, so now it has come to mean 'measurable or quantifiable'. Dictionaries quite rightly have recorded this usage, since English dictionaries record how the language *is* used, not how it *should be* used. Now don't get me started on modern people and the word 'literally'. But that's enough digression, let's get back to the topic. We all agree that lies were told on both sides before the referendum. We all agree that we are where we are, and we need to move forward from here. Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life?" They would only be regretting if they know now that they were wrong back then to vote the way that they did. You are correct though, regretting something is negative and does not help anything or anyone. If people do regret voting for Brexit they would be doing something much more positive if they acknowledged the mistake and then spent time and effort supporting the various movements that exist which are trying to mitigate the negative consequences that their vote had resulted in. | |||
" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life?" Learning from it would be a better approach. | |||
" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? Learning from it would be a better approach." For those who regret it, what ie there to learn? | |||
" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? Learning from it would be a better approach. For those who regret it, what ie there to learn?" Maybe how to analyse information they receive, especially during election campaigns. Look at the sources. Look at the publication. Who gains from a certain vote. Is the claim backed up with evidence. That kind of stuff. We saw the same thing during COVID too. People got swept up in various conspiracy theories because they provided easy answers to complex issues. Personally, I think that kids at school should be taught Media Analysis at school. That would make it much more difficult to con the general public. | |||
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" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? Learning from it would be a better approach. For those who regret it, what ie there to learn? Maybe how to analyse information they receive, especially during election campaigns. Look at the sources. Look at the publication. Who gains from a certain vote. Is the claim backed up with evidence. That kind of stuff. We saw the same thing during COVID too. People got swept up in various conspiracy theories because they provided easy answers to complex issues. Personally, I think that kids at school should be taught Media Analysis at school. That would make it much more difficult to con the general public. " I get all of that and it may help if the situation arises again but the poster you responded to, his statement still stands, no? | |||
" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? Learning from it would be a better approach. For those who regret it, what ie there to learn? Maybe how to analyse information they receive, especially during election campaigns. Look at the sources. Look at the publication. Who gains from a certain vote. Is the claim backed up with evidence. That kind of stuff. We saw the same thing during COVID too. People got swept up in various conspiracy theories because they provided easy answers to complex issues. Personally, I think that kids at school should be taught Media Analysis at school. That would make it much more difficult to con the general public. I get all of that and it may help if the situation arises again but the poster you responded to, his statement still stands, no?" I agree that regret isn't helpful. But that learning from what happened would be a better approach. | |||
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" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? Learning from it would be a better approach. For those who regret it, what ie there to learn? Maybe how to analyse information they receive, especially during election campaigns. Look at the sources. Look at the publication. Who gains from a certain vote. Is the claim backed up with evidence. That kind of stuff. We saw the same thing during COVID too. People got swept up in various conspiracy theories because they provided easy answers to complex issues. Personally, I think that kids at school should be taught Media Analysis at school. That would make it much more difficult to con the general public. I get all of that and it may help if the situation arises again but the poster you responded to, his statement still stands, no? I agree that regret isn't helpful. But that learning from what happened would be a better approach." I don't think it's a better approach. Both actually go hand in hand. I'm having a stab in the dark here, you've never seen a mental health counsellor? | |||
"I think the first step to reconciliation is ban all made up combinations of words that use exit as the last part of the word. No more regrexit, Germexit, italexit, Frenexit. STOP IT "What about ...moaner? | |||
" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? Learning from it would be a better approach. For those who regret it, what ie there to learn? Maybe how to analyse information they receive, especially during election campaigns. Look at the sources. Look at the publication. Who gains from a certain vote. Is the claim backed up with evidence. That kind of stuff. We saw the same thing during COVID too. People got swept up in various conspiracy theories because they provided easy answers to complex issues. Personally, I think that kids at school should be taught Media Analysis at school. That would make it much more difficult to con the general public. I get all of that and it may help if the situation arises again but the poster you responded to, his statement still stands, no? I agree that regret isn't helpful. But that learning from what happened would be a better approach. I don't think it's a better approach. Both actually go hand in hand. I'm having a stab in the dark here, you've never seen a mental health counsellor?" I haven't. I've made many mistakes in life. And have tried to learn from them, and have tried to avoid regret. But I've no clue what I'm doing, have no professional experience in how to deal with such things. | |||
" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? Learning from it would be a better approach. For those who regret it, what ie there to learn? Maybe how to analyse information they receive, especially during election campaigns. Look at the sources. Look at the publication. Who gains from a certain vote. Is the claim backed up with evidence. That kind of stuff. We saw the same thing during COVID too. People got swept up in various conspiracy theories because they provided easy answers to complex issues. Personally, I think that kids at school should be taught Media Analysis at school. That would make it much more difficult to con the general public. I get all of that and it may help if the situation arises again but the poster you responded to, his statement still stands, no? I agree that regret isn't helpful. But that learning from what happened would be a better approach. I don't think it's a better approach. Both actually go hand in hand. I'm having a stab in the dark here, you've never seen a mental health counsellor? I haven't. I've made many mistakes in life. And have tried to learn from them, and have tried to avoid regret. But I've no clue what I'm doing, have no professional experience in how to deal with such things. " I've had counselling as have Mrs and other family members, every single one of us were told never to have regrets or focus on negatives. What is done is done. Of course learn from it going forward but to let go of what's behind you. | |||
"I think the first step to reconciliation is ban all made up combinations of words that use exit as the last part of the word. No more regrexit, Germexit, italexit, Frenexit. STOP IT
What about ...moaner?"Ban them all, they add no tangible benefits, ban that too, that one caused trouble, literally trouble. We have enough words, we do not need more | |||
" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? Learning from it would be a better approach. For those who regret it, what ie there to learn? Maybe how to analyse information they receive, especially during election campaigns. Look at the sources. Look at the publication. Who gains from a certain vote. Is the claim backed up with evidence. That kind of stuff. We saw the same thing during COVID too. People got swept up in various conspiracy theories because they provided easy answers to complex issues. Personally, I think that kids at school should be taught Media Analysis at school. That would make it much more difficult to con the general public. I get all of that and it may help if the situation arises again but the poster you responded to, his statement still stands, no? I agree that regret isn't helpful. But that learning from what happened would be a better approach. I don't think it's a better approach. Both actually go hand in hand. I'm having a stab in the dark here, you've never seen a mental health counsellor? I haven't. I've made many mistakes in life. And have tried to learn from them, and have tried to avoid regret. But I've no clue what I'm doing, have no professional experience in how to deal with such things. I've had counselling as have Mrs and other family members, every single one of us were told never to have regrets or focus on negatives. What is done is done. Of course learn from it going forward but to let go of what's behind you. " Sounds like we completely agree? Unless I missed something. | |||
"I think the first step to reconciliation is ban all made up combinations of words that use exit as the last part of the word. No more regrexit, Germexit, italexit, Frenexit. STOP IT
What about ...moaner?
Ban them all, they add no tangible benefits, ban that too, that one caused trouble, literally trouble.
We have enough words, we do not need more"I'd ban gammon and woke too. | |||
" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? Learning from it would be a better approach. For those who regret it, what ie there to learn? Maybe how to analyse information they receive, especially during election campaigns. Look at the sources. Look at the publication. Who gains from a certain vote. Is the claim backed up with evidence. That kind of stuff. We saw the same thing during COVID too. People got swept up in various conspiracy theories because they provided easy answers to complex issues. Personally, I think that kids at school should be taught Media Analysis at school. That would make it much more difficult to con the general public. I get all of that and it may help if the situation arises again but the poster you responded to, his statement still stands, no? I agree that regret isn't helpful. But that learning from what happened would be a better approach. I don't think it's a better approach. Both actually go hand in hand. I'm having a stab in the dark here, you've never seen a mental health counsellor? I haven't. I've made many mistakes in life. And have tried to learn from them, and have tried to avoid regret. But I've no clue what I'm doing, have no professional experience in how to deal with such things. I've had counselling as have Mrs and other family members, every single one of us were told never to have regrets or focus on negatives. What is done is done. Of course learn from it going forward but to let go of what's behind you. Sounds like we completely agree? Unless I missed something." We don't agree unless you think that learn from a 'past decision' is no more important than not holding onto regret. | |||
" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? Learning from it would be a better approach. For those who regret it, what ie there to learn? Maybe how to analyse information they receive, especially during election campaigns. Look at the sources. Look at the publication. Who gains from a certain vote. Is the claim backed up with evidence. That kind of stuff. We saw the same thing during COVID too. People got swept up in various conspiracy theories because they provided easy answers to complex issues. Personally, I think that kids at school should be taught Media Analysis at school. That would make it much more difficult to con the general public. I get all of that and it may help if the situation arises again but the poster you responded to, his statement still stands, no? I agree that regret isn't helpful. But that learning from what happened would be a better approach. I don't think it's a better approach. Both actually go hand in hand. I'm having a stab in the dark here, you've never seen a mental health counsellor? I haven't. I've made many mistakes in life. And have tried to learn from them, and have tried to avoid regret. But I've no clue what I'm doing, have no professional experience in how to deal with such things. I've had counselling as have Mrs and other family members, every single one of us were told never to have regrets or focus on negatives. What is done is done. Of course learn from it going forward but to let go of what's behind you. Sounds like we completely agree? Unless I missed something. We don't agree unless you think that learn from a 'past decision' is no more important than not holding onto regret." Well every situation is different, so I don't have a blanket opinion. But I would guess that both are important. In the case of Brexit. Learning from it, would be important for the country, but not being stuck in regret is better for the individual. | |||
" Do we all agree that regretting a past decision doesn't help anyone move on with their life? Learning from it would be a better approach. For those who regret it, what ie there to learn? Maybe how to analyse information they receive, especially during election campaigns. Look at the sources. Look at the publication. Who gains from a certain vote. Is the claim backed up with evidence. That kind of stuff. We saw the same thing during COVID too. People got swept up in various conspiracy theories because they provided easy answers to complex issues. Personally, I think that kids at school should be taught Media Analysis at school. That would make it much more difficult to con the general public. I get all of that and it may help if the situation arises again but the poster you responded to, his statement still stands, no? I agree that regret isn't helpful. But that learning from what happened would be a better approach. I don't think it's a better approach. Both actually go hand in hand. I'm having a stab in the dark here, you've never seen a mental health counsellor? I haven't. I've made many mistakes in life. And have tried to learn from them, and have tried to avoid regret. But I've no clue what I'm doing, have no professional experience in how to deal with such things. I've had counselling as have Mrs and other family members, every single one of us were told never to have regrets or focus on negatives. What is done is done. Of course learn from it going forward but to let go of what's behind you. Sounds like we completely agree? Unless I missed something. We don't agree unless you think that learn from a 'past decision' is no more important than not holding onto regret. Well every situation is different, so I don't have a blanket opinion. But I would guess that both are important. In the case of Brexit. Learning from it, would be important for the country, but not being stuck in regret is better for the individual." In the case of Brexit, learning from it achieves nothing. It only helps with any future referenda. In my opinion far too many people spends way too much time focussing on negatives (I know there's no positives), not only does that not achieve anything but it isn't good for their own mental health either. | |||
" In the case of Brexit, learning from it achieves nothing. It only helps with any future referenda. In my opinion far too many people spends way too much time focussing on negatives (I know there's no positives), not only does that not achieve anything but it isn't good for their own mental health either." Isn't that good, if people learn from it and vote more responsibility? For me that would be the only win from the brexit debacle. I think a realistic view of any situation is healthy. Pretending everything is great and that brexit is fine and dandy, is probably not good for mental health either. Living with the real world seems sensible. | |||
" In the case of Brexit, learning from it achieves nothing. It only helps with any future referenda. In my opinion far too many people spends way too much time focussing on negatives (I know there's no positives), not only does that not achieve anything but it isn't good for their own mental health either. Isn't that good, if people learn from it and vote more responsibility? For me that would be the only win from the brexit debacle. I think a realistic view of any situation is healthy. Pretending everything is great and that brexit is fine and dandy, is probably not good for mental health either. Living with the real world seems sensible. " I said before it's good to learn, it won't help brexit though. Pretending everything is great is most definitely better than pretending Brexit is at fault for all of our issues. I guess that's where we agree to disagree. | |||
" In the case of Brexit, learning from it achieves nothing. It only helps with any future referenda. In my opinion far too many people spends way too much time focussing on negatives (I know there's no positives), not only does that not achieve anything but it isn't good for their own mental health either. Isn't that good, if people learn from it and vote more responsibility? For me that would be the only win from the brexit debacle. I think a realistic view of any situation is healthy. Pretending everything is great and that brexit is fine and dandy, is probably not good for mental health either. Living with the real world seems sensible. I said before it's good to learn, it won't help brexit though. Pretending everything is great is most definitely better than pretending Brexit is at fault for all of our issues. I guess that's where we agree to disagree." A realistic view of the situation, is what I think is healthy. I actually think learning from it would help with brexit. If the population and government came to terms with the reality of the situation, a plan could be made how to undo some of the damage. Happy to agree to disagree though. It's a minor point. On which I am not saying I'm right. It's just an opinion. | |||
" In the case of Brexit, learning from it achieves nothing. It only helps with any future referenda. In my opinion far too many people spends way too much time focussing on negatives (I know there's no positives), not only does that not achieve anything but it isn't good for their own mental health either. Isn't that good, if people learn from it and vote more responsibility? For me that would be the only win from the brexit debacle. I think a realistic view of any situation is healthy. Pretending everything is great and that brexit is fine and dandy, is probably not good for mental health either. Living with the real world seems sensible. I said before it's good to learn, it won't help brexit though. Pretending everything is great is most definitely better than pretending Brexit is at fault for all of our issues. I guess that's where we agree to disagree. A realistic view of the situation, is what I think is healthy. I actually think learning from it would help with brexit. If the population and government came to terms with the reality of the situation, a plan could be made how to undo some of the damage. Happy to agree to disagree though. It's a minor point. On which I am not saying I'm right. It's just an opinion. " Of course. TBH this has been a decent interaction, I actually do enjoy it when although people may have differing opinions, there's very little in the way of trying to score points. | |||
"I think the first step to reconciliation is ban all made up combinations of words that use exit as the last part of the word. No more regrexit, Germexit, italexit, Frenexit. STOP IT "There are a few who I wish would Fabexit
Saying that there are probably a few who wish I would Fabexit  | |||
" In the case of Brexit, learning from it achieves nothing. It only helps with any future referenda. In my opinion far too many people spends way too much time focussing on negatives (I know there's no positives), not only does that not achieve anything but it isn't good for their own mental health either. Isn't that good, if people learn from it and vote more responsibility? For me that would be the only win from the brexit debacle. I think a realistic view of any situation is healthy. Pretending everything is great and that brexit is fine and dandy, is probably not good for mental health either. Living with the real world seems sensible. I said before it's good to learn, it won't help brexit though. Pretending everything is great is most definitely better than pretending Brexit is at fault for all of our issues. I guess that's where we agree to disagree. A realistic view of the situation, is what I think is healthy. I actually think learning from it would help with brexit. If the population and government came to terms with the reality of the situation, a plan could be made how to undo some of the damage. Happy to agree to disagree though. It's a minor point. On which I am not saying I'm right. It's just an opinion. Of course. TBH this has been a decent interaction, I actually do enjoy it when although people may have differing opinions, there's very little in the way of trying to score points." Definitely. I did some research into mental health, specifically how to deal with regretful feelings from your past. Interesting. Anyway. Back to whatever we're talking about. | |||
"I think the first step to reconciliation is ban all made up combinations of words that use exit as the last part of the word. No more regrexit, Germexit, italexit, Frenexit. STOP IT
There are a few who I wish would Fabexit
Saying that there are probably a few who wish I would Fabexit " | |||
" I did some research into mental health, specifically how to deal with regretful feelings from your past. Interesting. Anyway. Back to whatever we're talking about." Respect | |||
" In the case of Brexit, learning from it achieves nothing. It only helps with any future referenda. In my opinion far too many people spends way too much time focussing on negatives (I know there's no positives), not only does that not achieve anything but it isn't good for their own mental health either. Isn't that good, if people learn from it and vote more responsibility? For me that would be the only win from the brexit debacle. I think a realistic view of any situation is healthy. Pretending everything is great and that brexit is fine and dandy, is probably not good for mental health either. Living with the real world seems sensible. I said before it's good to learn, it won't help brexit though. Pretending everything is great is most definitely better than pretending Brexit is at fault for all of our issues. I guess that's where we agree to disagree. A realistic view of the situation, is what I think is healthy. I actually think learning from it would help with brexit. If the population and government came to terms with the reality of the situation, a plan could be made how to undo some of the damage. Happy to agree to disagree though. It's a minor point. On which I am not saying I'm right. It's just an opinion. Of course. TBH this has been a decent interaction, I actually do enjoy it when although people may have differing opinions, there's very little in the way of trying to score points. Definitely. I did some research into mental health, specifically how to deal with regretful feelings from your past. Interesting. Anyway. Back to whatever we're talking about." | |||
" In the case of Brexit, learning from it achieves nothing. It only helps with any future referenda. In my opinion far too many people spends way too much time focussing on negatives (I know there's no positives), not only does that not achieve anything but it isn't good for their own mental health either. Isn't that good, if people learn from it and vote more responsibility? For me that would be the only win from the brexit debacle. I think a realistic view of any situation is healthy. Pretending everything is great and that brexit is fine and dandy, is probably not good for mental health either. Living with the real world seems sensible. I said before it's good to learn, it won't help brexit though. Pretending everything is great is most definitely better than pretending Brexit is at fault for all of our issues. I guess that's where we agree to disagree. A realistic view of the situation, is what I think is healthy. I actually think learning from it would help with brexit. If the population and government came to terms with the reality of the situation, a plan could be made how to undo some of the damage. Happy to agree to disagree though. It's a minor point. On which I am not saying I'm right. It's just an opinion. Of course. TBH this has been a decent interaction, I actually do enjoy it when although people may have differing opinions, there's very little in the way of trying to score points. Definitely. I did some research into mental health, specifically how to deal with regretful feelings from your past. Interesting. Anyway. Back to whatever we're talking about." | |||
