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"As someone who quite happily identifies as a woke lefty, a stance I broadly define as “not being a dick”, I’m not sure quite how I am responsible for the people I didn’t vote for doing (or not doing) the things that they do, but I’m glad that my intangible influence is apparently stopping them from being dicks. In answer to your question; I think it’s a mixture of deflection, and playing to the prejudices of their base. "   | |||
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"As someone who quite happily identifies as a woke lefty, a stance I broadly define as “not being a dick”, I’m not sure quite how I am responsible for the people I didn’t vote for doing (or not doing) the things that they do, but I’m glad that my intangible influence is apparently stopping them from being dicks. In answer to your question; I think it’s a mixture of deflection, and playing to the prejudices of their base. " Yep, they can no longer blame the EU, so they are now blaming, lefties, the woke and asylum seekers arriving by boat | |||
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"As someone who quite happily identifies as a woke lefty, a stance I broadly define as “not being a dick” ..." This is the problem with the word "woke", it means different things to different people. I'm sure almost everyone here would stand with you in wanting to 'not be a dick', but very few would describe that as woke. | |||
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"As someone who quite happily identifies as a woke lefty, a stance I broadly define as “not being a dick” ... This is the problem with the word "woke", it means different things to different people. I'm sure almost everyone here would stand with you in wanting to 'not be a dick', but very few would describe that as woke." I am a dick or bitch or cunt. Whatever you may choose. Take pride in all 3 it's your right to | |||
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"As someone who quite happily identifies as a woke lefty, a stance I broadly define as “not being a dick” ... This is the problem with the word "woke", it means different things to different people. I'm sure almost everyone here would stand with you in wanting to 'not be a dick', but very few would describe that as woke." Perfectly put | |||
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"Woke is dumb as. They are mostly the opposite of the observant and are ruining the world." Woke is a term used by intolerant people against things they dont like | |||
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I’d much rather be woke than be an intolerant, racist fuckwit.
Woke -“to be aware of social injustices, inequality and racism” | |||
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"Happy to be identified as being woke
I’d much rather be woke than be an intolerant, racist fuckwit.
Woke -“to be aware of social injustices, inequality and racism”"Thats the original meaning of the term but its now morphed into something different and is no longer fit for purpose. Its a bloody awful term anyway. | |||
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"Woke is dumb as. They are mostly the opposite of the observant and are ruining the world. Woke is a term used by intolerant people against things they dont like" “Intolerant, racist fuckwit” being an erudite example. | |||
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"Woke is dumb as. They are mostly the opposite of the observant and are ruining the world. Woke is a term used by intolerant people against things they dont like" 99% of the time it's used by people who no longer feel comfortable being openly racist, so their only option to express themselves is to insult people who aren't racist. | |||
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"Woke is dumb as. They are mostly the opposite of the observant and are ruining the world. Woke is a term used by intolerant people against things they dont like 99% of the time it's used by people who no longer feel comfortable being openly racist, so their only option to express themselves is to insult people who aren't racist." Absolute nonsense | |||
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"Happy to be identified as being woke
I’d much rather be woke than be an intolerant, racist fuckwit.
Woke -“to be aware of social injustices, inequality and racism”
Thats the original meaning of the term but its now morphed into something different and is no longer fit for purpose. Its a bloody awful term anyway."Yes, woke started off with good intent but as usual it has been taken over by the mouthy and is now a term that has been picked up and used to either belittle or take the high ground, it has been diluted into nothing more than a chant you would hear in the playground. | |||
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"Woke is dumb as. They are mostly the opposite of the observant and are ruining the world. Woke is a term used by intolerant people against things they dont like 99% of the time it's used by people who no longer feel comfortable being openly racist, so their only option to express themselves is to insult people who aren't racist. Absolute nonsense" Oh come on feisty it really is! Woke is also used like an accusation positioning it as some kind of culture war and cancellation tactic. | |||
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"Woke is dumb as. They are mostly the opposite of the observant and are ruining the world. Woke is a term used by intolerant people against things they dont like 99% of the time it's used by people who no longer feel comfortable being openly racist, so their only option to express themselves is to insult people who aren't racist. Absolute nonsense Oh come on feisty it really is! Woke is also used like an accusation positioning it as some kind of culture war and cancellation tactic." So woke is used 99% of the time by people who are racist but don't feel they can openly be so? | |||
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"Woke is dumb as. They are mostly the opposite of the observant and are ruining the world. Woke is a term used by intolerant people against things they dont like 99% of the time it's used by people who no longer feel comfortable being openly racist, so their only option to express themselves is to insult people who aren't racist. Absolute nonsense" 98.7%? | |||
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"Woke is dumb as. They are mostly the opposite of the observant and are ruining the world. Woke is a term used by intolerant people against things they dont like 99% of the time it's used by people who no longer feel comfortable being openly racist, so their only option to express themselves is to insult people who aren't racist. Absolute nonsense Oh come on feisty it really is! Woke is also used like an accusation positioning it as some kind of culture war and cancellation tactic. So woke is used 99% of the time by people who are racist but don't feel they can openly be so? " Ah it was the % that bothered you. The racist point is one of the major factors. Personally I couldn’t put a figure on it. | |||
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"Woke is dumb as. They are mostly the opposite of the observant and are ruining the world. Woke is a term used by intolerant people against things they dont like 99% of the time it's used by people who no longer feel comfortable being openly racist, so their only option to express themselves is to insult people who aren't racist. Absolute nonsense 98.7%?" Okay. Maybe the percentage is too high. Some guy was using it to describe vegans the other day. Which is probably in the 1%. But by and large, this is how it seems to be used: Someone who can no longer openly express hate towards a minority, uses "woke" as an insult to people who aren't prejudice against said minority. | |||
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"Woke is dumb as. They are mostly the opposite of the observant and are ruining the world. Woke is a term used by intolerant people against things they dont like 99% of the time it's used by people who no longer feel comfortable being openly racist, so their only option to express themselves is to insult people who aren't racist. Absolute nonsense Oh come on feisty it really is! Woke is also used like an accusation positioning it as some kind of culture war and cancellation tactic. So woke is used 99% of the time by people who are racist but don't feel they can openly be so? Ah it was the % that bothered you. The racist point is one of the major factors. Personally I couldn’t put a figure on it. " I'm not saying it isn't used by racist people. See my definition above | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not." Yes. That's basically a morphed version of what I said designed to make it palatable for those who use it as an insult. | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not." That is a, admittedly clever, twisting of the meaning that shows how it has been hijacked (predominantly by those with a more right wing political bias and racists). | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. Yes. That's basically a morphed version of what I said designed to make it palatable for those who use it as an insult." It's nothing like what you said | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. That is a, admittedly clever, twisting of the meaning that shows how it has been hijacked (predominantly by those with a more right wing political bias and racists)." You are as aware as I that meanings change over time. | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. Yes. That's basically a morphed version of what I said designed to make it palatable for those who use it as an insult. It's nothing like what you said" 100% is. These people think that anyone not homophobic, racist, transphobic etc are "indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included" | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. That is a, admittedly clever, twisting of the meaning that shows how it has been hijacked (predominantly by those with a more right wing political bias and racists). You are as aware as I that meanings change over time." Of course (gay being a perfect example) but woke has been weaponised by right wingers and racists. | |||
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"These statistics are unreliable, everyone knows 78% of statistics are made up on the spot." That should be 89%  | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. Yes. That's basically a morphed version of what I said designed to make it palatable for those who use it as an insult. It's nothing like what you said 100% is. These people think that anyone not homophobic, racist, transphobic etc are "indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included"" You keep telling yourself it's the same as 99% of the time it's used by racists. That doesn't make it true. | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. Yes. That's basically a morphed version of what I said designed to make it palatable for those who use it as an insult. It's nothing like what you said 100% is. These people think that anyone not homophobic, racist, transphobic etc are "indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included" You keep telling yourself it's the same as 99% of the time it's used by racists. That doesn't make it true." 99% was not an accurate %. What I should have said was "nearly every time I hear it used it's......" | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. That is a, admittedly clever, twisting of the meaning that shows how it has been hijacked (predominantly by those with a more right wing political bias and racists). You are as aware as I that meanings change over time. Of course (gay being a perfect example) but woke has been weaponised by right wingers and racists." Yes it's been weaponised.. the point remains that 'woke' can be used by a right winger who isn't racist. So by saying '99% of the time it's used by racists' proves the point of the definition. As does 'intolerant, racist fuckwits' | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. Yes. That's basically a morphed version of what I said designed to make it palatable for those who use it as an insult. It's nothing like what you said 100% is. These people think that anyone not homophobic, racist, transphobic etc are "indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included" You keep telling yourself it's the same as 99% of the time it's used by racists. That doesn't make it true." I think this highlights my earlier point. The word is used by different groups to mean different things to suit their particular agenda. Its now become a meaningless term. | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. That is a, admittedly clever, twisting of the meaning that shows how it has been hijacked (predominantly by those with a more right wing political bias and racists). You are as aware as I that meanings change over time. Of course (gay being a perfect example) but woke has been weaponised by right wingers and racists. Yes it's been weaponised.. the point remains that 'woke' can be used by a right winger who isn't racist. So by saying '99% of the time it's used by racists' proves the point of the definition. As does 'intolerant, racist fuckwits'" Yes not all people who use woke as an insult is a racist but all racists use woke as an insult! | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. That is a, admittedly clever, twisting of the meaning that shows how it has been hijacked (predominantly by those with a more right wing political bias and racists). You are as aware as I that meanings change over time. Of course (gay being a perfect example) but woke has been weaponised by right wingers and racists. Yes it's been weaponised.. the point remains that 'woke' can be used by a right winger who isn't racist. So by saying '99% of the time it's used by racists' proves the point of the definition. As does 'intolerant, racist fuckwits'" You will find your definition which sums up how woke is being used today, will be kicked around the playground rather than acknowledged. I often wonder if people are purposely not recognising how things are being interpreted by other people and can't bring themselves to discuss such things openly, or if they are unconsciously incompetent in their awareness to the world around them. | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. That is a, admittedly clever, twisting of the meaning that shows how it has been hijacked (predominantly by those with a more right wing political bias and racists). You are as aware as I that meanings change over time. Of course (gay being a perfect example) but woke has been weaponised by right wingers and racists. Yes it's been weaponised.. the point remains that 'woke' can be used by a right winger who isn't racist. So by saying '99% of the time it's used by racists' proves the point of the definition. As does 'intolerant, racist fuckwits' Yes not all people who use woke as an insult is a racist but all racists use woke as an insult!" That could be said for many many words | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. That is a, admittedly clever, twisting of the meaning that shows how it has been hijacked (predominantly by those with a more right wing political bias and racists). You are as aware as I that meanings change over time. Of course (gay being a perfect example) but woke has been weaponised by right wingers and racists. Yes it's been weaponised.. the point remains that 'woke' can be used by a right winger who isn't racist. So by saying '99% of the time it's used by racists' proves the point of the definition. As does 'intolerant, racist fuckwits' You will find your definition which sums up how woke is being used today, will be kicked around the playground rather than acknowledged. I often wonder if people are purposely not recognising how things are being interpreted by other people and can't bring themselves to discuss such things openly, or if they are unconsciously incompetent in their awareness to the world around them. " I need a tea before I read that last para again, sounds far too intelligent for the time of day | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. That is a, admittedly clever, twisting of the meaning that shows how it has been hijacked (predominantly by those with a more right wing political bias and racists). You are as aware as I that meanings change over time. Of course (gay being a perfect example) but woke has been weaponised by right wingers and racists. Yes it's been weaponised.. the point remains that 'woke' can be used by a right winger who isn't racist. So by saying '99% of the time it's used by racists' proves the point of the definition. As does 'intolerant, racist fuckwits' Yes not all people who use woke as an insult is a racist but all racists use woke as an insult! That could be said for many many words" True but we are discussing “woke” so...? | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. That is a, admittedly clever, twisting of the meaning that shows how it has been hijacked (predominantly by those with a more right wing political bias and racists). You are as aware as I that meanings change over time. Of course (gay being a perfect example) but woke has been weaponised by right wingers and racists. Yes it's been weaponised.. the point remains that 'woke' can be used by a right winger who isn't racist. So by saying '99% of the time it's used by racists' proves the point of the definition. As does 'intolerant, racist fuckwits' Yes not all people who use woke as an insult is a racist but all racists use woke as an insult! That could be said for many many words True but we are discussing “woke” so...?" We are, you agreed that woke is used by racists 99%. I stand by that, that's absolute nonsense | |||
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"Thats the biggest problem. People arn't open to debate. Anything which is not of their world view is bad and must be cancelled rather than debated and understood. Social media is a huge driver for this by allowing people so surround themselves in an opinion bubble where they only ever have their own opinions reinforced." Amen | |||
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"Thats the biggest problem. People arn't open to debate. Anything which is not of their world view is bad and must be cancelled rather than debated and understood. Social media is a huge driver for this by allowing people so surround themselves in an opinion bubble where they only ever have their own opinions reinforced. Amen "Thats why I like the fab forums. No opinion bubbles here. | |||
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"Woke; An oxymoron term used to describe the many indoctrinated & radically left-wing people of today's world who are obsessed with jumping on whatever mainstream bandwagon is necessary to feel included, though ironically being the most intolerant and hypocritical people on the planet. The irony is the term should be used if correctly to describe those who are 'awake' to the modern world however these people are so closed minded they cannot think critically, and are actually 'asleep.' This is the meaning I see used more often than not. That is a, admittedly clever, twisting of the meaning that shows how it has been hijacked (predominantly by those with a more right wing political bias and racists). You are as aware as I that meanings change over time. Of course (gay being a perfect example) but woke has been weaponised by right wingers and racists. Yes it's been weaponised.. the point remains that 'woke' can be used by a right winger who isn't racist. So by saying '99% of the time it's used by racists' proves the point of the definition. As does 'intolerant, racist fuckwits' Yes not all people who use woke as an insult is a racist but all racists use woke as an insult! That could be said for many many words True but we are discussing “woke” so...? We are, you agreed that woke is used by racists 99%. I stand by that, that's absolute nonsense" No I acknowledged that I was not focused on the %. For avoidance of doubt, I have zero idea what % of people who use woke as an insult are racist. But as I said, I am pretty confident the vast majority of racists are now using woke as an insult. | |||
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"Woke is just the latest term for what used to be called 'PC'. In both cases, it's just a way for the right to put a label on what they don't like - discussion of the real inequalities and discrimination that exists in the world. The Right doesn't like this, because they want their politics, and the world, to be extremely simple and conform to their preconceptions. They want to be able to identify certain groups who are the enemy, be it groups delineated by class, gender, race, sexuality. So lefties going around saying those enemies are actually normal people who deserve respect makes them furious." Best post on this so far | |||
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"Thats the biggest problem. People arn't open to debate. Anything which is not of their world view is bad and must be cancelled rather than debated and understood. Social media is a huge driver for this by allowing people so surround themselves in an opinion bubble where they only ever have their own opinions reinforced." Very few people are actually meaningfully "cancelled" Ironically it's wailing about being "cancelled" when they're criticised, rather than people actually defending their arguments, that hinders debate. Someone telling you your opinions are crap is not being cancelled. | |||
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"Woke is just the latest term for what used to be called 'PC'. In both cases, it's just a way for the right to put a label on what they don't like - discussion of the real inequalities and discrimination that exists in the world. The Right doesn't like this, because they want their politics, and the world, to be extremely simple and conform to their preconceptions. They want to be able to identify certain groups who are the enemy, be it groups delineated by class, gender, race, sexuality. So lefties going around saying those enemies are actually normal people who deserve respect makes them furious. Best post on this so far "No, I think thats far too simplistic. Theres nuance on both sides. Its the extremes of left and rights that do all the shouting and leave most of us in the middle bewildered and angry. | |||
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"Woke is just the latest term for what used to be called 'PC'. In both cases, it's just a way for the right to put a label on what they don't like - discussion of the real inequalities and discrimination that exists in the world. The Right doesn't like this, because they want their politics, and the world, to be extremely simple and conform to their preconceptions. They want to be able to identify certain groups who are the enemy, be it groups delineated by class, gender, race, sexuality. So lefties going around saying those enemies are actually normal people who deserve respect makes them furious. Best post on this so far
No, I think thats far too simplistic. Theres nuance on both sides. Its the extremes of left and rights that do all the shouting and leave most of us in the middle bewildered and angry.
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll." The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion." So _hetalkingstove is speaking nonsense? | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. So _hetalkingstove is speaking nonsense?" All I'm saying is that the only dictionary definition matters. Whatever you, I, some other fella thinks doesn't matter. All it means to me is "that person using it as an insult, isn't someone I want to be friends with". | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. So _hetalkingstove is speaking nonsense?" The dictionary definition is the correct one but that doesnt mean that anyone using the word will use it correctly. | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. So _hetalkingstove is speaking nonsense?" IMO no, I liked that post. Feisty, do you use woke as an insult? If so what do YOU mean when you call someone/something woke? | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. So _hetalkingstove is speaking nonsense? All I'm saying is that the only dictionary definition matters. Whatever you, I, some other fella thinks doesn't matter. All it means to me is "that person using it as an insult, isn't someone I want to be friends with"." The problem we have here is that there are numerous dictionaries. And dictionaries change their definitions quite often | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion." When do you change your opinion of a word or expect other too, when the dictionary updates? That makes me feel as though free thinking is not something you would support? | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. So _hetalkingstove is speaking nonsense? IMO no, I liked that post. Feisty, do you use woke as an insult? If so what do YOU mean when you call someone/something woke?" I absolutely do not use woke as an insult. | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. So _hetalkingstove is speaking nonsense? IMO no, I liked that post. Feisty, do you use woke as an insult? If so what do YOU mean when you call someone/something woke? I absolutely do not use woke as an insult." Whereas 'Gammon' is most definitely a pejorative. | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. When do you change your opinion of a word or expect other too, when the dictionary updates? That makes me feel as though free thinking is not something you would support?" Blimey, you've made an assumption and a vicious judgement on me just because I advocated for the dictionary definition of a word. Holy fuck. | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. So _hetalkingstove is speaking nonsense? IMO no, I liked that post. Feisty, do you use woke as an insult? If so what do YOU mean when you call someone/something woke? I absolutely do not use woke as an insult. Whereas 'Gammon' is most definitely a pejorative." That's another subject | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. So _hetalkingstove is speaking nonsense? IMO no, I liked that post. Feisty, do you use woke as an insult? If so what do YOU mean when you call someone/something woke? I absolutely do not use woke as an insult."  | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. When do you change your opinion of a word or expect other too, when the dictionary updates? That makes me feel as though free thinking is not something you would support? Blimey, you've made an assumption and a vicious judgement on me just because I advocated for the dictionary definition of a word. Holy fuck." If you stick religiously to the definition of a word in the dictionary, it would stop challenge to the meaning of words, especially as times change, would you not agree? | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. When do you change your opinion of a word or expect other too, when the dictionary updates? That makes me feel as though free thinking is not something you would support? Blimey, you've made an assumption and a vicious judgement on me just because I advocated for the dictionary definition of a word. Holy fuck. If you stick religiously to the definition of a word in the dictionary, it would stop challenge to the meaning of words, especially as times change, would you not agree? " The English language evolves. Not sure why you think, I think it doesn't. "Woke" has so many unofficial meanings So it's worth noting what the dictionary says and not just what randomers think. I suspect it will die out soon just like you no longer see "snowflake" levelled at people who stand up to racists anymore. As an example. | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. When do you change your opinion of a word or expect other too, when the dictionary updates? That makes me feel as though free thinking is not something you would support? Blimey, you've made an assumption and a vicious judgement on me just because I advocated for the dictionary definition of a word. Holy fuck. If you stick religiously to the definition of a word in the dictionary, it would stop challenge to the meaning of words, especially as times change, would you not agree? The English language evolves. Not sure why you think, I think it doesn't. "Woke" has so many unofficial meanings So it's worth noting what the dictionary says and not just what randomers think. I suspect it will die out soon just like you no longer see "snowflake" levelled at people who stand up to racists anymore. As an example. " That was my point, you said anything outside of the dictionary is nonsense, there have been many challenges to words and their meanings as times and attitudes change. I wasn't saying you stifle or prohibit change in any way. | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. When do you change your opinion of a word or expect other too, when the dictionary updates? That makes me feel as though free thinking is not something you would support? Blimey, you've made an assumption and a vicious judgement on me just because I advocated for the dictionary definition of a word. Holy fuck. If you stick religiously to the definition of a word in the dictionary, it would stop challenge to the meaning of words, especially as times change, would you not agree? The English language evolves. Not sure why you think, I think it doesn't. "Woke" has so many unofficial meanings So it's worth noting what the dictionary says and not just what randomers think. I suspect it will die out soon just like you no longer see "snowflake" levelled at people who stand up to racists anymore. As an example. That was my point, you said anything outside of the dictionary is nonsense, there have been many challenges to words and their meanings as times and attitudes change. I wasn't saying you stifle or prohibit change in any way. "It's not one rule for every change to every word. Some words evolve naturally. Like the word "sly". Others are evolved purposefully by groups who wish to weaponise it (I don't especially like the term "weaponise" but I can't think of how else to explain my point). Which to me, is nonsensical, and just makes those people look foolish. In the case of "woke" it's been deliberately altered by the elements of the right to discredit people who they feel threatened by. IE people who are "aware of social injustice, especially racism". | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. When do you change your opinion of a word or expect other too, when the dictionary updates? That makes me feel as though free thinking is not something you would support? Blimey, you've made an assumption and a vicious judgement on me just because I advocated for the dictionary definition of a word. Holy fuck. If you stick religiously to the definition of a word in the dictionary, it would stop challenge to the meaning of words, especially as times change, would you not agree? The English language evolves. Not sure why you think, I think it doesn't. "Woke" has so many unofficial meanings So it's worth noting what the dictionary says and not just what randomers think. I suspect it will die out soon just like you no longer see "snowflake" levelled at people who stand up to racists anymore. As an example. That was my point, you said anything outside of the dictionary is nonsense, there have been many challenges to words and their meanings as times and attitudes change. I wasn't saying you stifle or prohibit change in any way.
It's not one rule for every change to every word.
Some words evolve naturally. Like the word "sly". Others are evolved purposefully by groups who wish to weaponise it (I don't especially like the term "weaponise" but I can't think of how else to explain my point). Which to me, is nonsensical, and just makes those people look foolish.
In the case of "woke" it's been deliberately altered by the elements of the right to discredit people who they feel threatened by. IE people who are "aware of social injustice, especially racism". "This is not a one way street, for example the words fascist, racist, nazi, phobic are used to attack people that question legitimately a point of view or a reason for doing something. That has led to a devaluing of those words amongst those who wish to close down speech or thought, just the same as what is happening to woke. | |||
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read." I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain. | |||
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read. I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain." Comedy gold | |||
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read. I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain. Comedy gold "Have dykes stopped beating their girlfriends yet? They seem to do it more than everyone else. | |||
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read. I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain. Comedy gold
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read. I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain. Comedy gold
Have dykes stopped beating their girlfriends yet? They seem to do it more than everyone else.
Dykes? Are you ok? "You’re right. Lesbians need to stop beating their girlfriends. | |||
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read. I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain. Comedy gold
Have dykes stopped beating their girlfriends yet? They seem to do it more than everyone else.
Dykes? Are you ok?
You’re right. Lesbians need to stop beating their girlfriends."So do men, what is your point , you seem confused | |||
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"We've now had 2 definitions, 1 from either side of this debate. Which one is right? I can take a guess where we'll end this poll. The dictionary definition is right. Everything else is nonsense. In my opinion. When do you change your opinion of a word or expect other too, when the dictionary updates? That makes me feel as though free thinking is not something you would support? Blimey, you've made an assumption and a vicious judgement on me just because I advocated for the dictionary definition of a word. Holy fuck. If you stick religiously to the definition of a word in the dictionary, it would stop challenge to the meaning of words, especially as times change, would you not agree? The English language evolves. Not sure why you think, I think it doesn't. "Woke" has so many unofficial meanings So it's worth noting what the dictionary says and not just what randomers think. I suspect it will die out soon just like you no longer see "snowflake" levelled at people who stand up to racists anymore. As an example. That was my point, you said anything outside of the dictionary is nonsense, there have been many challenges to words and their meanings as times and attitudes change. I wasn't saying you stifle or prohibit change in any way.
It's not one rule for every change to every word.
Some words evolve naturally. Like the word "sly". Others are evolved purposefully by groups who wish to weaponise it (I don't especially like the term "weaponise" but I can't think of how else to explain my point). Which to me, is nonsensical, and just makes those people look foolish.
In the case of "woke" it's been deliberately altered by the elements of the right to discredit people who they feel threatened by. IE people who are "aware of social injustice, especially racism".
This is not a one way street, for example the words fascist, racist, nazi, phobic are used to attack people that question legitimately a point of view or a reason for doing something.
That has led to a devaluing of those words amongst those who wish to close down speech or thought, just the same as what is happening to woke. "Then we found agreement | |||
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read. I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain. Comedy gold
Have dykes stopped beating their girlfriends yet? They seem to do it more than everyone else.
Dykes? Are you ok?
You’re right. Lesbians need to stop beating their girlfriends.
So do men, what is your point , you seem confused "As most one-sided IPV is carried out predominantly by women, it’d be better if women stopped hitting men first. | |||
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read. I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain." I don't know if this is ironic or serious. But as I was explaining earlier, this is what I think of as someone who uses "woke" as an insult. | |||
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read. I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain. I don't know if this is ironic or serious. But as I was explaining earlier, this is what I think of as someone who uses "woke" as an insult." It’s the same sort of logic that the “woke” use. It’s ironically serious. | |||
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read. I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain. Comedy gold
Have dykes stopped beating their girlfriends yet? They seem to do it more than everyone else.
Dykes? Are you ok?
You’re right. Lesbians need to stop beating their girlfriends.
So do men, what is your point , you seem confused
As most one-sided IPV is carried out predominantly by women, it’d be better if women stopped hitting men first. "You’re just making stuff up. Anyway, why do you hang around with the ‘woke mob’ and where did job find them? | |||
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read. I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain. Comedy gold
Have dykes stopped beating their girlfriends yet? They seem to do it more than everyone else.
Dykes? Are you ok?
You’re right. Lesbians need to stop beating their girlfriends.
So do men, what is your point , you seem confused
As most one-sided IPV is carried out predominantly by women, it’d be better if women stopped hitting men first.
You’re just making stuff up. Anyway, why do you hang around with the ‘woke mob’ and where did job find them? "You | |||
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"Reading a lot of discussions that mention about people being 'woke' or 'lefties' being a problem. Apparently they have broken the police, the education system, democracy and many many other things. My problem with this is we have had a Conservative right wing party in control for years, with a majority government for a lot of that. How can it be that the ruling party...the people who can affect these issues has their hands tied by woke and lefty people. They are the ones who can and do dispense laws. Are they possibly using these phrases to deflect from their own failures? BTW I ain't lefty and far far from woke, but I do think about what I see and read. I’ve hung out in woke crowds. Tend to be filled with abusive, hypocritical narcissists. They believe in a r**e culture because the parasites they hang out with are often sexual abusers, and are often sexual abusers themselves. They’re projecting their own nature onto others. Also, regardless of who is in power, it is possible to campaign for laws. Politicians will pander for votes, even if those laws are based on bad ideas, bad stats and bad science, especially if it confirms voter bias. The Duluth model used in domestic violence training is one example of this. Essentially, as a male, I’m more likely to be arrested and charged by a police officer than a woman is if a woman attacks me (this is the case in non-domestic situations as well). Many will say, “It was men who instituted those laws,” but it was privileged, middle- and upper-class, abusive white women who campaigned for those laws, and would have kicked up a fuss if men rightfully said “You’re not worth listening to, as you can’t do basic stats and you’re abusive classists and racists.” The fact is, it’s two different ideologies that end up with the same result they desire: poor and minority men kept in check and in prison, ready to be used for war meat for imperialist expansion (Ukraine war is a good example of this - two sets of racist imperialist powers that want to annex land, each claiming to be a victim). Heck, look at Eleanor Williams. Loads of parasites think that it shouldn’t be imprisoned, and I can guarantee that it’ll be out in a year or two, get to go on the grifter circuit getting paid to talk about it’s experiences, and get given several dozen council houses. We are told that Eleanor didn’t have the same politics as the rightists that helped ruin Barrow, but does it really? Does it not in fact show that most of the women of the left hate working class and non-white men, much like the right does? That they benefit from the system to a much greater degree than pretty much everyone else in history? They also get more money spent on their healthcare, education and welfare, have a legal system that is reluctant to punish them for crimes, and literally live longer than everyone else, and still complain. Comedy gold
Have dykes stopped beating their girlfriends yet? They seem to do it more than everyone else.
Dykes? Are you ok?
You’re right. Lesbians need to stop beating their girlfriends.
So do men, what is your point , you seem confused
As most one-sided IPV is carried out predominantly by women, it’d be better if women stopped hitting men first.
You’re just making stuff up. Anyway, why do you hang around with the ‘woke mob’ and where did job find them? "No, this is factually correct, and any non-biased research actually confirms my point. I would post the links, but I don’t have to do your homework for you. Not very awake, are you? | |||
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