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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason not to give a pay rise which has led to a real terms paycut of 20% in the last 10 years. I will be making my way with a placard to Parliament Square to make my point on Wednesday! Just wandered what the level of public support is?
Taz |
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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago
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"Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason not to give a pay rise which has led to a real terms paycut of 20% in the last 10 years. I will be making my way with a placard to Parliament Square to make my point on Wednesday! Just wandered what the level of public support is?
Taz"
Well done for standing up |
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By *TG3Man
over a year ago
Dorchester |
"Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason not to give a pay rise which has led to a real terms paycut of 20% in the last 10 years. I will be making my way with a placard to Parliament Square to make my point on Wednesday! Just wandered what the level of public support is?
Taz" striking on behalf of who? |
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"Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason not to give a pay rise which has led to a real terms paycut of 20% in the last 10 years. I will be making my way with a placard to Parliament Square to make my point on Wednesday! Just wandered what the level of public support is?
Taz"
Fully support you, been there myself as public sector now retired..
Stay strong and United.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've never agreed with striking.
Having always worked in the Private sector, it was never an option - and I'm not a fan of trade unions.
If we weren't happy in our job or with our employer, we'd look for another job |
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By *vilgasamWoman
over a year ago
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I fully support the strikes, they’re long overdue. Without them we’d be working 7 days a week from 6-80 years old. They’re 100% necessary to keep the 1% in line, the alternative would be to trampled constantly without any life away from work
Work to live, don’t live to work
Good on you for standing up for yourselves and workmates
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i support you all, doctors nurses civil servants firefighters cops etc , our HONOURABLE mps havent been shy in accepting there pay rises throughout the pandemic etc , then sprout " its not us" but an independant pay body giving there pay rises whilst everyone else has been left behind over the years so no option too strike unfortunately |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its time the goverment set up an all unions negotiation and gave everyone in or out of a union a pay rise each year linked to the cost of living or the intrest rate so taking away the potential for strikes.
I believe that the house of comons have an index linked pay rise so why carnt the rest of the country. |
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"Sighhhhhhhhhh.
I get it, I do. But honestly. So many strikes now, and in my line of work, trying to plan to avoid them is a pain in the arse."
Snap i totally get the striking and why but its been so long now for some of them and between struggling to get to work and childcare it's either a nightmare to get to, use holidays or have to lose pay.
(And for the record I haven't had a payrise since 2021 and that only came with a promotion)
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I fully support those who strike int he public sector for better wages and better conditions. I had a history book at school and in it was a photo with the caption ‘match girls go on strike’ which always struck me as being rather witty. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Every fuckers jumping on the 'Lets go on strike bandwagon'. I want more money as well, so does everyone else probably. Just get on with the job you applied for. |
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"Every fuckers jumping on the 'Lets go on strike bandwagon'. I want more money as well, so does everyone else probably. Just get on with the job you applied for."
That's a very interesting perspective. Do you really think people strike to jump on a bandwagon? How would the logistics of that even work?
Either way, OP, you have my full support. |
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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago
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"Every fuckers jumping on the 'Lets go on strike bandwagon'. I want more money as well, so does everyone else probably. Just get on with the job you applied for.
That's a very interesting perspective. Do you really think people strike to jump on a bandwagon? How would the logistics of that even work?
Either way, OP, you have my full support."
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We all loved and supported our essential workers during covid.The Drs and nurses did an amazing job. Teachers also continued to work delivering lessons each day, why would anyone not support them now just because its a bit inconvenient having to sort child care. |
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"Its time the goverment set up an all unions negotiation and gave everyone in or out of a union a pay rise each year linked to the cost of living or the intrest rate so taking away the potential for strikes.
I believe that the house of comons have an index linked pay rise so why carnt the rest of the country."
What a great idea!
It sounds so straightforward! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Every fuckers jumping on the 'Lets go on strike bandwagon'. I want more money as well, so does everyone else probably. Just get on with the job you applied for.
That's a very interesting perspective. Do you really think people strike to jump on a bandwagon? How would the logistics of that even work?
Either way, OP, you have my full support."
Actually, yes. The union leaders are all conspiring to cause as much disruption as possible in their attempt to bring down our democratically elected government, and it is for THAT reason that they must fail.
We choose our governments at the ballot box, and not because a handful of millitants don't understand how democracy works.
In my humble opinion |
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"Every fuckers jumping on the 'Lets go on strike bandwagon'. I want more money as well, so does everyone else probably. Just get on with the job you applied for.
That's a very interesting perspective. Do you really think people strike to jump on a bandwagon? How would the logistics of that even work?
Either way, OP, you have my full support.
Actually, yes. The union leaders are all conspiring to cause as much disruption as possible in their attempt to bring down our democratically elected government, and it is for THAT reason that they must fail.
We choose our governments at the ballot box, and not because a handful of millitants don't understand how democracy works.
In my humble opinion"
The strikes are democratically voted for. So clearly they do know how democracy works. Such as it is….we don’t have proportional representation so it’s a pretty naff form of democracy. In my opinion. |
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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago
just somewhere around here |
"Every fuckers jumping on the 'Lets go on strike bandwagon'. I want more money as well, so does everyone else probably. Just get on with the job you applied for.
That's a very interesting perspective. Do you really think people strike to jump on a bandwagon? How would the logistics of that even work?
Either way, OP, you have my full support.
Actually, yes. The union leaders are all conspiring to cause as much disruption as possible in their attempt to bring down our democratically elected government, and it is for THAT reason that they must fail.
We choose our governments at the ballot box, and not because a handful of millitants don't understand how democracy works.
In my humble opinion
The strikes are democratically voted for. So clearly they do know how democracy works. Such as it is….we don’t have proportional representation so it’s a pretty naff form of democracy. In my opinion. "
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By *vilgasamWoman
over a year ago
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We choose our governments at the ballot box, and not because a handful of millitants don't understand how democracy works.
In my humble opinion"
I disagree hard. We do not choose our government at the box, we’re told to choose left or right. If we chose our government we would have the ‘get rid’ choice, we don’t.
It’s no different from telling a kid they can brush their teeth first or hair first, it gives them a feeling of control, but either way they’re doing as told and going to bed
The government should be afraid of the public, instead they’re laughing.
What the government used to stand for isn’t the same now, now it’s nepotism but they can’t admit that without letting go of the tight hold they have on our throats |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We choose our governments at the ballot box, and not because a handful of millitants don't understand how democracy works.
In my humble opinion
I disagree hard. We do not choose our government at the box, we’re told to choose left or right. If we chose our government we would have the ‘get rid’ choice, we don’t.
It’s no different from telling a kid they can brush their teeth first or hair first, it gives them a feeling of control, but either way they’re doing as told and going to bed
The government should be afraid of the public, instead they’re laughing.
What the government used to stand for isn’t the same now, now it’s nepotism but they can’t admit that without letting go of the tight hold they have on our throats "
Agree. Plus at the 2019 general election the Govt only got 43.6% of the vote, Labour, Lib Dems, Green and SNP got 50.3% of the vote - also if you look at the total numbers eligible to vote (46.5 million), the Govt only got 30% support. |
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"Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason not to give a pay rise which has led to a real terms paycut of 20% in the last 10 years. I will be making my way with a placard to Parliament Square to make my point on Wednesday! Just wandered what the level of public support is?
Tazstriking on behalf of who? "
The oppressed masses |
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"Every fuckers jumping on the 'Lets go on strike bandwagon'. I want more money as well, so does everyone else probably. Just get on with the job you applied for.
That's a very interesting perspective. Do you really think people strike to jump on a bandwagon? How would the logistics of that even work?
Either way, OP, you have my full support.
Actually, yes. The union leaders are all conspiring to cause as much disruption as possible in their attempt to bring down our democratically elected government, and it is for THAT reason that they must fail.
We choose our governments at the ballot box, and not because a handful of millitants don't understand how democracy works.
In my humble opinion"
No they aren't, they are representing their membership who voted to take industrial action as a last resort..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We choose our governments at the ballot box, and not because a handful of millitants don't understand how democracy works.
In my humble opinion
I disagree hard. We do not choose our government at the box, we’re told to choose left or right. If we chose our government we would have the ‘get rid’ choice, we don’t.
It’s no different from telling a kid they can brush their teeth first or hair first, it gives them a feeling of control, but either way they’re doing as told and going to bed
The government should be afraid of the public, instead they’re laughing.
What the government used to stand for isn’t the same now, now it’s nepotism but they can’t admit that without letting go of the tight hold they have on our throats "
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"The union leaders are all conspiring to cause as much disruption as possible in their attempt to bring down our democratically elected government, and it is for THAT reason that they must fail.
We choose our governments at the ballot box, and not because a handful of millitants don't understand how democracy works."
Ironically, you don't seem to understand how democracy - including the right to strike (and all that entails) - works.
It is not the union leaders who decide if a strike happens.
It takes more than a handful of workers to be able to legally strike. (It's actually quite difficult.)
Someone does not need to be a militant to be able to strike. And striking does not make someone a militant. |
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Poor kids have just had a year off with Covid and now every other day teachers want to strike ! How are these kids going to fare in life ! It’s shady , cancelling school when it’s snowing now and it was only
Dandruff !!!!
Poor show |
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By *vilgasamWoman
over a year ago
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"Poor kids have just had a year off with Covid and now every other day teachers want to strike ! How are these kids going to fare in life ! It’s shady , cancelling school when it’s snowing now and it was only
Dandruff !!!!
Poor show "
I’d rather my kids and the next generation put themselves before companies and codes tbh, I’d rather them watch us strike for better lives than keep quiet and not make waves because it’s inconvenient to the economy
Poor use of a guilt trip, too shortsighted
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"Every fuckers jumping on the 'Lets go on strike bandwagon'. I want more money as well, so does everyone else probably. Just get on with the job you applied for."
I guess you also don’t partake in not working seven days, health and safety, sick pay, redundancy, bank holidays and the numerous other benefits that strike action, unions and collective protest and withdrawal of labour has achieved for the average working person? |
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"Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason
not to give a pay rise which has led
to a real terms paycut of 20% in the
last 10 years. I will be making my
way with a placard to Parliament
Square to make my point on
Wednesday! Just wandered what
the level of public support is?
Taz"
I don't belive in strikes where people disrupt the lifes of other people . but I do belive in your right. To protest and feel instead all workers. Going strike that a large delegation should be outside number 10 or the houses of Parliament makeing their case heard . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Every fuckers jumping on the 'Lets go on strike bandwagon'. I want more money as well, so does everyone else probably. Just get on with the job you applied for.
I guess you also don’t partake in not working seven days, health and safety, sick pay, redundancy, bank holidays and the numerous other benefits that strike action, unions and collective protest and withdrawal of labour has achieved for the average working person? "
Correct. |
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
Near Wells |
I'm self employed and even contribute to the economy by employing staff.
My wages haven't gone up in about 10 years, I probably work twice as many hours a week as most public sector workers and I don't even have a pension.
Can I go on strike? |
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"Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason not to give a pay rise which has led to a real terms paycut of 20% in the last 10 years. I will be making my way with a placard to Parliament Square to make my point on Wednesday! Just wandered what the level of public support is?
Taz
Well done for standing up "
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"I'm self employed and even contribute to the economy by employing staff.
My wages haven't gone up in about 10 years, I probably work twice as many hours a week as most public sector workers and I don't even have a pension.
Can I go on strike?"
I mean, you're welcome to not work for a day and forego that days's wages and it'll feel the same. |
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"Poor kids have just had a year off with Covid and now every other day teachers want to strike ! How are these kids going to fare in life ! It’s shady , cancelling school when it’s snowing now and it was only
Dandruff !!!!
Poor show
I’d rather my kids and the next generation put themselves before companies and codes tbh, I’d rather them watch us strike for better lives than keep quiet and not make waves because it’s inconvenient to the economy
Poor use of a guilt trip, too shortsighted
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School teachers come and go every month these days a lot of them are so fickle ! Most only
Get into the job for the holidays !!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sorry opp but i dont support any strikes at the moment. It wasnt that long ago that we had covid and the goverment gave out lots of money in therlow pay and free kits etc to prop the country up. Most like myself was gratfull. But we all are still paying the cost of this. So stop asking for more. Remember who kept money in your or someone you know pockets. Now before you ask yes i work for a covment body and can still feed and heat my family. So why cant others. Maybee they dont want to give up there bmw. But dont hold the country to ransom for it either |
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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago
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I (Mrs R) am on strike today with the RMT, not for a pay rise but for my pension! I have worked hard and paid into it for 17 years, I will not let it be taken away!
Haters will hate us but, if your pension was at risk you would do the same.
So, I agree with strikes, it is our right to withdraw our services and stand up for what is right.
All sectors have my support x |
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
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I've never really been in agreement with strikes tbh but I do get why they feel the need.
My mother in laws appointment at hospital was cancelled because of the nurses strike.
My daughter is missing 2 days of school this week, she's in year 12 and struggles now since she missed so much during covid. |
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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago
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Some of us did not get anything during covid, I worked like normal and was not on furlough.
Some of us strikers are not doing it for more pay, we are doing it to protect pensions and working conditions. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason not to give a pay rise which has led to a real terms paycut of 20% in the last 10 years. I will be making my way with a placard to Parliament Square to make my point on Wednesday! Just wandered what the level of public support is?
Taz"
100% behind you here. Strike action is the last resort for any workforce and if we are experiencing multiple strikes across sectors, the true question to answer is why so many seemingly unconnected people feel that such action is their only choice.
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
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"I'm self employed and even contribute to the economy by employing staff.
My wages haven't gone up in about 10 years, I probably work twice as many hours a week as most public sector workers and I don't even have a pension.
Can I go on strike?
I mean, you're welcome to not work for a day and forego that days's wages and it'll feel the same. "
I'd love a day off but I care about the service I give to my customers, unlike some others and anyway I need the money. |
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By *vilgasamWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm self employed and even contribute to the economy by employing staff.
My wages haven't gone up in about 10 years, I probably work twice as many hours a week as most public sector workers and I don't even have a pension.
Can I go on strike?
I mean, you're welcome to not work for a day and forego that days's wages and it'll feel the same.
I'd love a day off but I care about the service I give to my customers, unlike some others and anyway I need the money."
I mean if your business can’t handle paying a living wage, it’s not down to the staff taking cuts to keep it afloat
A bad business has no business being a business
What you decide to pay yourself isn’t the baseline others should live to. That’s your choice to do. Not a reason to dismiss strikes
If you want a day off, you chose when or not to take them, others don’t have that luxury. A lot struggle for the free time to pee during a shift. These unacceptable working conditions are a huge part of the reason strikes are so desperately needed.
A work force at the point of striking on this mass of a scale clearly tells us there are more problems than the country can cope with |
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
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"I'm self employed and even contribute to the economy by employing staff.
My wages haven't gone up in about 10 years, I probably work twice as many hours a week as most public sector workers and I don't even have a pension.
Can I go on strike?
I mean, you're welcome to not work for a day and forego that days's wages and it'll feel the same.
I'd love a day off but I care about the service I give to my customers, unlike some others and anyway I need the money.
I mean if your business can’t handle paying a living wage, it’s not down to the staff taking cuts to keep it afloat
A bad business has no business being a business
What you decide to pay yourself isn’t the baseline others should live to. That’s your choice to do. Not a reason to dismiss strikes
If you want a day off, you chose when or not to take them, others don’t have that luxury. A lot struggle for the free time to pee during a shift. These unacceptable working conditions are a huge part of the reason strikes are so desperately needed.
A work force at the point of striking on this mass of a scale clearly tells us there are more problems than the country can cope with "
All my staff earn quite a bit than the living wage as do probably most of the people going on strike today.
This year I celebrate 30 years of my first ever sale and I'm still doing the same thing. It's not always easy but the business can't be run that badly for 30 years? |
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"I'm self employed and even contribute to the economy by employing staff.
My wages haven't gone up in about 10 years, I probably work twice as many hours a week as most public sector workers and I don't even have a pension.
Can I go on strike?
I mean, you're welcome to not work for a day and forego that days's wages and it'll feel the same.
I'd love a day off but I care about the service I give to my customers, unlike some others and anyway I need the money.
I mean if your business can’t handle paying a living wage, it’s not down to the staff taking cuts to keep it afloat
A bad business has no business being a business
What you decide to pay yourself isn’t the baseline others should live to. That’s your choice to do. Not a reason to dismiss strikes
If you want a day off, you chose when or not to take them, others don’t have that luxury. A lot struggle for the free time to pee during a shift. These unacceptable working conditions are a huge part of the reason strikes are so desperately needed.
A work force at the point of striking on this mass of a scale clearly tells us there are more problems than the country can cope with "
Theres the challenge isnt it? Pay something or close the company and pay nothing. Its not easy. |
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
"I (Mrs R) am on strike today with the RMT, not for a pay rise but for my pension! I have worked hard and paid into it for 17 years, I will not let it be taken away!
Haters will hate us but, if your pension was at risk you would do the same.
So, I agree with strikes, it is our right to withdraw our services and stand up for what is right.
All sectors have my support x"
Well done fellow rmt |
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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago
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"I (Mrs R) am on strike today with the RMT, not for a pay rise but for my pension! I have worked hard and paid into it for 17 years, I will not let it be taken away!
Haters will hate us but, if your pension was at risk you would do the same.
So, I agree with strikes, it is our right to withdraw our services and stand up for what is right.
All sectors have my support x
Well done fellow rmt "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason not to give a pay rise which has led to a real terms paycut of 20% in the last 10 years. I will be making my way with a placard to Parliament Square to make my point on Wednesday! Just wandered what the level of public support is?
Taz"
You have my support |
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"Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason not to give a pay rise which has led to a real terms paycut of 20% in the last 10 years. I will be making my way with a placard to Parliament Square to make my point on Wednesday! Just wandered what the level of public support is?
Taz
You have my support "
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"Poor kids have just had a year off with Covid and now every other day teachers want to strike ! How are these kids going to fare in life ! It’s shady , cancelling school when it’s snowing now and it was only
Dandruff !!!!
Poor show
Have you ever worked in a secondary school?You clearly have no idea...
I’d rather my kids and the next generation put themselves before companies and codes tbh, I’d rather them watch us strike for better lives than keep quiet and not make waves because it’s inconvenient to the economy
Poor use of a guilt trip, too shortsighted
School teachers come and go every month these days a lot of them are so fickle ! Most only
Get into the job for the holidays !!!!!" |
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"Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason not to give a pay rise which has led to a real terms paycut of 20% in the last 10 years. I will be making my way with a placard to Parliament Square to make my point on Wednesday! Just wandered what the level of public support is?
Taz"
No support at all. If you don't like the terms and conditions of your job, go and get another one. |
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"Hello all,
As a public sector worker, for only the second time in 20 years, I will be on strike over pay on Wednesday. Just to say that's its not because of the cost of living, but there has always been a reason not to give a pay rise which has led to a real terms paycut of 20% in the last 10 years. I will be making my way with a placard to Parliament Square to make my point on Wednesday! Just wandered what the level of public support is?
Taz
No support at all. If you don't like the terms and conditions of your job, go and get another one."
Which is a sensible economic approach, people leave because wages are too low, employer realises and advertises new job at a competitive rate, post filled, excellent market economics.
But what about when it's a whole workforce? If all Junior doctors quit and went and did something different where are you going to find their replacements? How long would you be happy not having a critical mass of junior doctors in the NHS? And when the workforce is restricted already to those with a medical degree (five years study) how much more difficult is substitution? |
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"The union leaders are all conspiring to cause as much disruption as possible in their attempt to bring down our democratically elected government, and it is for THAT reason that they must fail.
We choose our governments at the ballot box, and not because a handful of millitants don't understand how democracy works.
Ironically, you don't seem to understand how democracy - including the right to strike (and all that entails) - works.
It is not the union leaders who decide if a strike happens.
It takes more than a handful of workers to be able to legally strike. (It's actually quite difficult.)
Someone does not need to be a militant to be able to strike. And striking does not make someone a militant. "
As someone who has previously 'run' a ballot on behalf of a union the legislation covering strikes on the UK is brutal and designed not to be met. Any union that calls a strike definitely has the support of their members. It's harder to vote for a strike than it is to vote for an MP! |
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