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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

In the Fox-Dominion Case Murdoch admits HIS commentators endorsed Trumps lies and the idea that Biden stole the 2020 election. Fox News admitted giving the Trump camp a preview of Bidens campaign advertisements before they were publicly screened.The Murdoch News empire again publicly shamed.

Yet I haven't seen any or very little coverage in the press or on the TV in this country, no need to ask why I suspect so much more to come out .

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it"

It exposes the power of the media to enforce a lie. I think the vast majority of the media in this country would not want to reveal this aspect of their business.

Notice how quiet it’s gone on the DG of the BBC and his support for Boris.

Heads down guys Murdoch has turned a torch on us!

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By *astandFeistyCouple  over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it"

I'd tend to agree. I couldn't care less what the news in the US is saying

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

I'd tend to agree. I couldn't care less what the news in the US is saying "

I agree and I live here.

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

It exposes the power of the media to enforce a lie. I think the vast majority of the media in this country would not want to reveal this aspect of their business.

Notice how quiet it’s gone on the DG of the BBC and his support for Boris.

Heads down guys Murdoch has turned a torch on us! "

you act as if this is a new thing the media lying lol i wouldnt trust any media outlet as far as i could spit and havent done for a long time, and like i said they probably not reporting on it because the vast majority of people in the uk really aint intrested in fox news or trump, hes yesterdays news

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By *iman2100Man  over a year ago

Glasgow

It may not, on first glance, be of much interest in the UK but there are UK implications.

Basically Fox News (and there is an oxymoron if ever there was one!) acted as a propaganda source telling lies to recruit and retain Trump cult members. They also sought, night after night, to disuade those same cult members from ever getting the truth from other sources.

Their lies and slanted comments were misleading, and still are, yet, in normal times, they hold themselves out to be a news media outlet which should be trusted.

It is important therefore that there is a line drawn between opinion shows and comedy, and bona fide News broadcasts.

Few of us would chose who to vote for on the basis of a Jimmy Carr performance so it is important that news organisations in the UK as in the USA are held to account when they promulgate lies and mistruths.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It may not, on first glance, be of much interest in the UK but there are UK implications.

Basically Fox News (and there is an oxymoron if ever there was one!) acted as a propaganda source telling lies to recruit and retain Trump cult members. They also sought, night after night, to disuade those same cult members from ever getting the truth from other sources.

Their lies and slanted comments were misleading, and still are, yet, in normal times, they hold themselves out to be a news media outlet which should be trusted.

It is important therefore that there is a line drawn between opinion shows and comedy, and bona fide News broadcasts.

Few of us would chose who to vote for on the basis of a Jimmy Carr performance so it is important that news organisations in the UK as in the USA are held to account when they promulgate lies and mistruths. "

and again what is the implications? You live in the UK. Both sides of the isle tell lies and half truths. It's media bias from both sides. It's up to you take the information and make a informative decision. Take all sources into account . Who is telling what story?

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By *enny PR9TV/TS  over a year ago

Southport


"It may not, on first glance, be of much interest in the UK but there are UK implications.

Basically Fox News (and there is an oxymoron if ever there was one!) acted as a propaganda source telling lies to recruit and retain Trump cult members. They also sought, night after night, to disuade those same cult members from ever getting the truth from other sources.

Their lies and slanted comments were misleading, and still are, yet, in normal times, they hold themselves out to be a news media outlet which should be trusted.

It is important therefore that there is a line drawn between opinion shows and comedy, and bona fide News broadcasts.

Few of us would chose who to vote for on the basis of a Jimmy Carr performance so it is important that news organisations in the UK as in the USA are held to account when they promulgate lies and mistruths. and again what is the implications? You live in the UK. Both sides of the isle tell lies and half truths. It's media bias from both sides. It's up to you take the information and make a informative decision. Take all sources into account . Who is telling what story?"

Of course they are still at the deposition part of the proceedings I imagine once the trial starts proper we'll see a lot more of it. Mark Twain very nicely described the MAGA types: "It is easier to fool than convince them that they've been fooled." The Fox News audience would rather get fooled by Fox News MORE, instead of admitting that they have been fooled by Fox News.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It may not, on first glance, be of much interest in the UK but there are UK implications.

Basically Fox News (and there is an oxymoron if ever there was one!) acted as a propaganda source telling lies to recruit and retain Trump cult members. They also sought, night after night, to disuade those same cult members from ever getting the truth from other sources.

Their lies and slanted comments were misleading, and still are, yet, in normal times, they hold themselves out to be a news media outlet which should be trusted.

It is important therefore that there is a line drawn between opinion shows and comedy, and bona fide News broadcasts.

Few of us would chose who to vote for on the basis of a Jimmy Carr performance so it is important that news organisations in the UK as in the USA are held to account when they promulgate lies and mistruths. and again what is the implications? You live in the UK. Both sides of the isle tell lies and half truths. It's media bias from both sides. It's up to you take the information and make a informative decision. Take all sources into account . Who is telling what story?

Of course they are still at the deposition part of the proceedings I imagine once the trial starts proper we'll see a lot more of it. Mark Twain very nicely described the MAGA types: "It is easier to fool than convince them that they've been fooled." The Fox News audience would rather get fooled by Fox News MORE, instead of admitting that they have been fooled by Fox News. "

Yet fox news is the number 1 news source here. That's a oddity don't you think?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It may not, on first glance, be of much interest in the UK but there are UK implications.

Basically Fox News (and there is an oxymoron if ever there was one!) acted as a propaganda source telling lies to recruit and retain Trump cult members. They also sought, night after night, to disuade those same cult members from ever getting the truth from other sources.

Their lies and slanted comments were misleading, and still are, yet, in normal times, they hold themselves out to be a news media outlet which should be trusted.

It is important therefore that there is a line drawn between opinion shows and comedy, and bona fide News broadcasts.

Few of us would chose who to vote for on the basis of a Jimmy Carr performance so it is important that news organisations in the UK as in the USA are held to account when they promulgate lies and mistruths. and again what is the implications? You live in the UK. Both sides of the isle tell lies and half truths. It's media bias from both sides. It's up to you take the information and make a informative decision. Take all sources into account . Who is telling what story?

Of course they are still at the deposition part of the proceedings I imagine once the trial starts proper we'll see a lot more of it. Mark Twain very nicely described the MAGA types: "It is easier to fool than convince them that they've been fooled." The Fox News audience would rather get fooled by Fox News MORE, instead of admitting that they have been fooled by Fox News. "

29 years as the most viewed and trusted news source. What changed again ? Fox still is the most viewed.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS  over a year ago

Southport


"It may not, on first glance, be of much interest in the UK but there are UK implications.

Basically Fox News (and there is an oxymoron if ever there was one!) acted as a propaganda source telling lies to recruit and retain Trump cult members. They also sought, night after night, to disuade those same cult members from ever getting the truth from other sources.

Their lies and slanted comments were misleading, and still are, yet, in normal times, they hold themselves out to be a news media outlet which should be trusted.

It is important therefore that there is a line drawn between opinion shows and comedy, and bona fide News broadcasts.

Few of us would chose who to vote for on the basis of a Jimmy Carr performance so it is important that news organisations in the UK as in the USA are held to account when they promulgate lies and mistruths. and again what is the implications? You live in the UK. Both sides of the isle tell lies and half truths. It's media bias from both sides. It's up to you take the information and make a informative decision. Take all sources into account . Who is telling what story?

Of course they are still at the deposition part of the proceedings I imagine once the trial starts proper we'll see a lot more of it. Mark Twain very nicely described the MAGA types: "It is easier to fool than convince them that they've been fooled." The Fox News audience would rather get fooled by Fox News MORE, instead of admitting that they have been fooled by Fox News. 29 years as the most viewed and trusted news source. What changed again ? Fox still is the most viewed."

Are there any other News organisations being sued for $1.6 billion for lying to its audience?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"It may not, on first glance, be of much interest in the UK but there are UK implications.

Basically Fox News (and there is an oxymoron if ever there was one!) acted as a propaganda source telling lies to recruit and retain Trump cult members. They also sought, night after night, to disuade those same cult members from ever getting the truth from other sources.

Their lies and slanted comments were misleading, and still are, yet, in normal times, they hold themselves out to be a news media outlet which should be trusted.

It is important therefore that there is a line drawn between opinion shows and comedy, and bona fide News broadcasts.

Few of us would chose who to vote for on the basis of a Jimmy Carr performance so it is important that news organisations in the UK as in the USA are held to account when they promulgate lies and mistruths. and again what is the implications? You live in the UK. Both sides of the isle tell lies and half truths. It's media bias from both sides. It's up to you take the information and make a informative decision. Take all sources into account . Who is telling what story?

Of course they are still at the deposition part of the proceedings I imagine once the trial starts proper we'll see a lot more of it. Mark Twain very nicely described the MAGA types: "It is easier to fool than convince them that they've been fooled." The Fox News audience would rather get fooled by Fox News MORE, instead of admitting that they have been fooled by Fox News. Yet fox news is the number 1 news source here. That's a oddity don't you think? "

Yes, people here confuse popularity with accuracy too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It may not, on first glance, be of much interest in the UK but there are UK implications.

Basically Fox News (and there is an oxymoron if ever there was one!) acted as a propaganda source telling lies to recruit and retain Trump cult members. They also sought, night after night, to disuade those same cult members from ever getting the truth from other sources.

Their lies and slanted comments were misleading, and still are, yet, in normal times, they hold themselves out to be a news media outlet which should be trusted.

It is important therefore that there is a line drawn between opinion shows and comedy, and bona fide News broadcasts.

Few of us would chose who to vote for on the basis of a Jimmy Carr performance so it is important that news organisations in the UK as in the USA are held to account when they promulgate lies and mistruths. and again what is the implications? You live in the UK. Both sides of the isle tell lies and half truths. It's media bias from both sides. It's up to you take the information and make a informative decision. Take all sources into account . Who is telling what story?

Of course they are still at the deposition part of the proceedings I imagine once the trial starts proper we'll see a lot more of it. Mark Twain very nicely described the MAGA types: "It is easier to fool than convince them that they've been fooled." The Fox News audience would rather get fooled by Fox News MORE, instead of admitting that they have been fooled by Fox News. 29 years as the most viewed and trusted news source. What changed again ? Fox still is the most viewed.

Are there any other News organisations being sued for $1.6 billion for lying to its audience?"

kind of a drop in a bucket when it's still viewed as the number 1 source. Yet people still view and make informed decisions. Weird.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My favourite Fox News stat was brought up by Jon Stewart back in the day. A study showed Fox News viewers were less informed than people who watched no news at all. That's an amazing achievement, when you think about it.

It's farcical Fox News is even allowed to call itself news.

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By *eorge WhorewellMan  over a year ago

Reading


" Are there any other News organisations being sued for $1.6 billion for lying to its audience? kind of a drop in a bucket when it's still viewed as the number 1 source. Yet people still view and make informed decisions. Weird."

Blatant Fox News lies aside, it turned out that the other side was also engaged in partisanship as it was revealed in Twitter Files and the Hunter Biden laptop story which turned out to be true etc...

The truth is in the States, the media scene is heavily polarised and both sides pump their editorial stances into the news. Americans sort of live in their own echo chamber.

Meanwhile, in the UK, Murdoch-owned Sky News bulletins are largely factual when it comes to reporting straight-up news. It's a different media culture in the British scene.

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By *ustintime69Man  over a year ago

Bristol


" Are there any other News organisations being sued for $1.6 billion for lying to its audience? kind of a drop in a bucket when it's still viewed as the number 1 source. Yet people still view and make informed decisions. Weird.

Blatant Fox News lies aside, it turned out that the other side was also engaged in partisanship as it was revealed in Twitter Files and the Hunter Biden laptop story which turned out to be true etc...

The truth is in the States, the media scene is heavily polarised and both sides pump their editorial stances into the news. Americans sort of live in their own echo chamber.

Meanwhile, in the UK, Murdoch-owned Sky News bulletins are largely factual when it comes to reporting straight-up news. It's a different media culture in the British scene. "

Don’t rely on our historical non partisan news reporting because the future is more likely to be in the hands of bankers like Richard Sharp than reporters who have earned their spurs like John Snow.

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By *eorge WhorewellMan  over a year ago

Reading


" Don’t rely on our historical non partisan news reporting because the future is more likely to be in the hands of bankers like Richard Sharp than reporters who have earned their spurs like John Snow. "

I completely agree. The future of British public broadcasting and its tradition of fairness, accuracy and balance is looking rather bleak. Out of curiosity, do you pay license fee?

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By *ustintime69Man  over a year ago

Bristol


" Don’t rely on our historical non partisan news reporting because the future is more likely to be in the hands of bankers like Richard Sharp than reporters who have earned their spurs like John Snow.

I completely agree. The future of British public broadcasting and its tradition of fairness, accuracy and balance is looking rather bleak. Out of curiosity, do you pay license fee? "

Yes I do pay it but I find it harder and harder to reconcile myself to paying it when I see the state of the BBC under its current leadership

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

At this point who gives a Donald about Trump?

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By *eorge WhorewellMan  over a year ago

Reading

Exactly the same. In representative sample, 95% of the BBC's staff voted for Sharp to go. But even if he resigns, which I really doubt, another political appointee/cronie will take his place

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"At this point who gives a Donald about Trump? "
Apparently some people can't let go. It's funny and I voted for him twice.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS  over a year ago

Southport


"At this point who gives a Donald about Trump? Apparently some people can't let go. It's funny and I voted for him twice."

Obviously, and that was in same election.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"At this point who gives a Donald about Trump? Apparently some people can't let go. It's funny and I voted for him twice.

Obviously, and that was in same election. "

That would be 4 times

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By *iman2100Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"It may not, on first glance, be of much interest in the UK but there are UK implications.

Basically Fox News (and there is an oxymoron if ever there was one!) acted as a propaganda source telling lies to recruit and retain Trump cult members. They also sought, night after night, to disuade those same cult members from ever getting the truth from other sources.

Their lies and slanted comments were misleading, and still are, yet, in normal times, they hold themselves out to be a news media outlet which should be trusted.

It is important therefore that there is a line drawn between opinion shows and comedy, and bona fide News broadcasts.

Few of us would chose who to vote for on the basis of a Jimmy Carr performance so it is important that news organisations in the UK as in the USA are held to account when they promulgate lies and mistruths. and again what is the implications? You live in the UK. Both sides of the isle tell lies and half truths. It's media bias from both sides. It's up to you take the information and make a informative decision. Take all sources into account . Who is telling what story?"

Most news outlets lie by omission, i.e. simply not mentioning anything that would affect their chosen political side.

However Fox news ran stories continuously that were known to be false. So they are being sued for it and the 1st amendment cannot protect them from civil action for libel and slander.

If however CNN or MSNBC do that then they should be sued as well. There is a divergence between Fred Smith saying to his mates Ted Bloggs is a d*unk, and a major news network telling their 4 million plus viewers.

I agree people should listen to what is said and decide what is real. However very few people are interested in politics and simply seek confirmation bias in the News programmes they watch.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

It’s really interesting because the level for the term “defamation” in the US is way way way higher than in the Uk because of 1st amendment protections…. So not only do you have prove damages, you have to prove that it was done deliberately and maliciously rather than just mistakenly or recklessly

And that is why the emails are like the golden goose because the revealed the host knew none of it was true so they can’t hide behind “opinion”… and the big bosses knew as he used the word “endorse” and then proceeded to throw the hosts under the bus (they are individually being sued as well) to save the whole channel

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it"

Sky Europe isn’t owned by murdoch anymore.. it’s own by Comcast (who own NBC and MSNBC)

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"My favourite Fox News stat was brought up by Jon Stewart back in the day. A study showed Fox News viewers were less informed than people who watched no news at all. That's an amazing achievement, when you think about it.

It's farcical Fox News is even allowed to call itself news. "

Fox News has a news division… and an opinion division…. The problem is the opinion stuff (fox and friends in the morning, Carlson, ingraham, and hannity in the evenings) is the stuff that gets the highest ratings… and they pass off all the opinion stuff as news

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By *iman2100Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"My favourite Fox News stat was brought up by Jon Stewart back in the day. A study showed Fox News viewers were less informed than people who watched no news at all. That's an amazing achievement, when you think about it.

It's farcical Fox News is even allowed to call itself news.

Fox News has a news division… and an opinion division…. The problem is the opinion stuff (fox and friends in the morning, Carlson, ingraham, and hannity in the evenings) is the stuff that gets the highest ratings… and they pass off all the opinion stuff as news"

I think that is the key issue; opinion as news.

As a parallel idea that may work. Anyone can call themselves a Civil Engineer but if you want the real thing you get a "Chartered Engineer". Perhaps the term NEWS should be "chartered" in some way so that only real News is permitted. Hard to police but it may inject some honesty or integrity into the situation.

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

Sky Europe isn’t owned by murdoch anymore.. it’s own by Comcast (who own NBC and MSNBC)"

still dosent change the fact the reason it not being reported on that much is because the majority of the uk dont care wat happens in the u.s,i meen if trump is still pissing you off you might care but to most he is yesterdays man

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

Sky Europe isn’t owned by murdoch anymore.. it’s own by Comcast (who own NBC and MSNBC)still dosent change the fact the reason it not being reported on that much is because the majority of the uk dont care wat happens in the u.s,i meen if trump is still pissing you off you might care but to most he is yesterdays man"

He might be tomorrow's man too. That's the crazy bit. Because after all the lies, culminating in what looks like an attemtpted coup, he hasn't been jailed or even disqualified from running again.

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

Sky Europe isn’t owned by murdoch anymore.. it’s own by Comcast (who own NBC and MSNBC)still dosent change the fact the reason it not being reported on that much is because the majority of the uk dont care wat happens in the u.s,i meen if trump is still pissing you off you might care but to most he is yesterdays man

He might be tomorrow's man too. That's the crazy bit. Because after all the lies, culminating in what looks like an attemtpted coup, he hasn't been jailed or even disqualified from running again."

oh well if he does win again be lits of laughs again hes a troll dunno why everyone takes what he says seriously, but hey i doubt very much if he will win again more likley to be the dude from florida

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

Sky Europe isn’t owned by murdoch anymore.. it’s own by Comcast (who own NBC and MSNBC)still dosent change the fact the reason it not being reported on that much is because the majority of the uk dont care wat happens in the u.s,i meen if trump is still pissing you off you might care but to most he is yesterdays man

He might be tomorrow's man too. That's the crazy bit. Because after all the lies, culminating in what looks like an attemtpted coup, he hasn't been jailed or even disqualified from running again."

anyone can run for president even convicted felons.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

Sky Europe isn’t owned by murdoch anymore.. it’s own by Comcast (who own NBC and MSNBC)still dosent change the fact the reason it not being reported on that much is because the majority of the uk dont care wat happens in the u.s,i meen if trump is still pissing you off you might care but to most he is yesterdays man

He might be tomorrow's man too. That's the crazy bit. Because after all the lies, culminating in what looks like an attemtpted coup, he hasn't been jailed or even disqualified from running again.oh well if he does win again be lits of laughs again hes a troll dunno why everyone takes what he says seriously, but hey i doubt very much if he will win again more likley to be the dude from florida "

Oh I doubt he'll win again. But it's ridiculous he's in a poisition to even try.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

Sky Europe isn’t owned by murdoch anymore.. it’s own by Comcast (who own NBC and MSNBC)still dosent change the fact the reason it not being reported on that much is because the majority of the uk dont care wat happens in the u.s,i meen if trump is still pissing you off you might care but to most he is yesterdays man

He might be tomorrow's man too. That's the crazy bit. Because after all the lies, culminating in what looks like an attemtpted coup, he hasn't been jailed or even disqualified from running again. anyone can run for president even convicted felons."

It seems even people who tried to overthrow democracy in your country can run again for president.

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

Sky Europe isn’t owned by murdoch anymore.. it’s own by Comcast (who own NBC and MSNBC)still dosent change the fact the reason it not being reported on that much is because the majority of the uk dont care wat happens in the u.s,i meen if trump is still pissing you off you might care but to most he is yesterdays man

He might be tomorrow's man too. That's the crazy bit. Because after all the lies, culminating in what looks like an attemtpted coup, he hasn't been jailed or even disqualified from running again.oh well if he does win again be lits of laughs again hes a troll dunno why everyone takes what he says seriously, but hey i doubt very much if he will win again more likley to be the dude from florida

Oh I doubt he'll win again. But it's ridiculous he's in a poisition to even try."

why it ridiculous? He not been convicted of anything and he not likley to be, you really think republicans or dems wana open up that can of worms, both sides are in the shit if they go down that road

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

Sky Europe isn’t owned by murdoch anymore.. it’s own by Comcast (who own NBC and MSNBC)still dosent change the fact the reason it not being reported on that much is because the majority of the uk dont care wat happens in the u.s,i meen if trump is still pissing you off you might care but to most he is yesterdays man

He might be tomorrow's man too. That's the crazy bit. Because after all the lies, culminating in what looks like an attemtpted coup, he hasn't been jailed or even disqualified from running again.oh well if he does win again be lits of laughs again hes a troll dunno why everyone takes what he says seriously, but hey i doubt very much if he will win again more likley to be the dude from florida

Oh I doubt he'll win again. But it's ridiculous he's in a poisition to even try.why it ridiculous? He not been convicted of anything and he not likley to be, you really think republicans or dems wana open up that can of worms, both sides are in the shit if they go down that road"

It's ridicuous because Trump did everything he could to delegitimise an election in his country. His many, many lies culminated in an attack on the Capitol. You'd think a country that prizes democracy would stop a person running again who previously tried to trash that democracy. Obviously not.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

Sky Europe isn’t owned by murdoch anymore.. it’s own by Comcast (who own NBC and MSNBC)still dosent change the fact the reason it not being reported on that much is because the majority of the uk dont care wat happens in the u.s,i meen if trump is still pissing you off you might care but to most he is yesterdays man

He might be tomorrow's man too. That's the crazy bit. Because after all the lies, culminating in what looks like an attemtpted coup, he hasn't been jailed or even disqualified from running again.oh well if he does win again be lits of laughs again hes a troll dunno why everyone takes what he says seriously, but hey i doubt very much if he will win again more likley to be the dude from florida

Oh I doubt he'll win again. But it's ridiculous he's in a poisition to even try.why it ridiculous? He not been convicted of anything and he not likley to be, you really think republicans or dems wana open up that can of worms, both sides are in the shit if they go down that road

It's ridicuous because Trump did everything he could to delegitimise an election in his country. His many, many lies culminated in an attack on the Capitol. You'd think a country that prizes democracy would stop a person running again who previously tried to trash that democracy. Obviously not."

When it comes down to politics. People remember better standard of living than parties politics. Similar to Brexit people remember better times economically. Torries out / Labour in. Any politician or party that provides a better standard of living will win. No matter the past transgressions. People care more about what is in their wallet more than anything.

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"Why do u think there been little coverage? Myself im guessing because its not that much of a story over here, i get why sky might not report on it, but beeb itv and channel 4 dont have any reason to not report it, is a u.s story for the u.s public, i doubt that many people in uk really care about it

Sky Europe isn’t owned by murdoch anymore.. it’s own by Comcast (who own NBC and MSNBC)still dosent change the fact the reason it not being reported on that much is because the majority of the uk dont care wat happens in the u.s,i meen if trump is still pissing you off you might care but to most he is yesterdays man

He might be tomorrow's man too. That's the crazy bit. Because after all the lies, culminating in what looks like an attemtpted coup, he hasn't been jailed or even disqualified from running again.oh well if he does win again be lits of laughs again hes a troll dunno why everyone takes what he says seriously, but hey i doubt very much if he will win again more likley to be the dude from florida

Oh I doubt he'll win again. But it's ridiculous he's in a poisition to even try.why it ridiculous? He not been convicted of anything and he not likley to be, you really think republicans or dems wana open up that can of worms, both sides are in the shit if they go down that road

It's ridicuous because Trump did everything he could to delegitimise an election in his country. His many, many lies culminated in an attack on the Capitol. You'd think a country that prizes democracy would stop a person running again who previously tried to trash that democracy. Obviously not."

so a bit like the democrats and hillary saying him and russia stole the election for 4years lol, open your eyes mate anyone at the top table of a political party is corrupt, they wouldnt be at the top table if they were clean, only difference between trump and the rest of em is the rest of them are career politicians so know how to talk

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


" so a bit like the democrats and hillary saying him and russia stole the election for 4years lol, open your eyes mate anyone at the top table of a political party is corrupt, they wouldnt be at the top table if they were clean, only difference between trump and the rest of em is the rest of them are career politicians so know how to talk"

Hillary Clinton and the democrats never said he stole the election, they said that Russia interfered in the election process! Big difference…

And if you really volume 1 of the mueller report they found Russia did! They said there was not enough evidence to support inherent collusion …. Although volume 2 then outlined all of the ways trump went about trying to interfere with the investigations…

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


" so a bit like the democrats and hillary saying him and russia stole the election for 4years lol, open your eyes mate anyone at the top table of a political party is corrupt, they wouldnt be at the top table if they were clean, only difference between trump and the rest of em is the rest of them are career politicians so know how to talk

Hillary Clinton and the democrats never said he stole the election, they said that Russia interfered in the election process! Big difference…

And if you really volume 1 of the mueller report they found Russia did! They said there was not enough evidence to support inherent collusion …. Although volume 2 then outlined all of the ways trump went about trying to interfere with the investigations…"

although all the stuff the fbi led straight back ro hillary lol, i really dont care who runs the usa nuthouse but come on _abio dont try and make out that the dems didnt spend four years claiming he stole the election, im pretty sure if he did he would of been found guilty by now, but hey ho, who really cares who the owners of u.s.a inc are, the people can go fuck emselves as long as whoever is in charge keeps taking the kick backs from corporations, bit like uk really red or blue dosent really matter to the general population

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Exactly the same. In representative sample, 95% of the BBC's staff voted for Sharp to go. But even if he resigns, which I really doubt, another political appointee/cronie will take his place "

Really? Imagine the privelidge of being able to openly say that about your top boss and not be fired. Folk wonder why the BBC is hated by normal folk.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"It may not, on first glance, be of much interest in the UK but there are UK implications.

Basically Fox News (and there is an oxymoron if ever there was one!) acted as a propaganda source telling lies to recruit and retain Trump cult members. They also sought, night after night, to disuade those same cult members from ever getting the truth from other sources.

Their lies and slanted comments were misleading, and still are, yet, in normal times, they hold themselves out to be a news media outlet which should be trusted.

It is important therefore that there is a line drawn between opinion shows and comedy, and bona fide News broadcasts.

Few of us would chose who to vote for on the basis of a Jimmy Carr performance so it is important that news organisations in the UK as in the USA are held to account when they promulgate lies and mistruths. and again what is the implications? You live in the UK. Both sides of the isle tell lies and half truths. It's media bias from both sides. It's up to you take the information and make a informative decision. Take all sources into account . Who is telling what story?"

The implication is GB "News" not having to provide any sense of balance and the BBC being rundown and criticised at every opportunity.

Essentially the same system here as in the US which seems to be something that the current party of Government has been keen on for some time.

Canary in the coalmine.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"In the Fox-Dominion Case Murdoch admits HIS commentators endorsed Trumps lies and the idea that Biden stole the 2020 election. Fox News admitted giving the Trump camp a preview of Bidens campaign advertisements before they were publicly screened.The Murdoch News empire again publicly shamed.

Yet I haven't seen any or very little coverage in the press or on the TV in this country, no need to ask why I suspect so much more to come out ."

They also indicated that they reported the "election fraud" allegations and continued to champion them knowing that they were untrue.

Knowing that they were untrue.

That has created widespread mistrust in democracy in both the USA and globally.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up.

These people have no integrity.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up.

These people have no integrity. "

Not just the right, it very evenly balanced unless you care not see it from both sides

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up.

These people have no integrity.

Not just the right, it very evenly balanced unless you care not see it from both sides "

I don't think there is evidence to suggest that anyone except Fox deliberately pushed opinions that they knew to be untrue.

That is a question of integrity.

Otherwise you are just talking about bias.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up.

These people have no integrity.

Not just the right, it very evenly balanced unless you care not see it from both sides

I don't think there is evidence to suggest that anyone except Fox deliberately pushed opinions that they knew to be untrue.

That is a question of integrity.

Otherwise you are just talking about bias."

I'm responding to

"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up"

Do you agree or disagree with my last comment?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up.

These people have no integrity.

Not just the right, it very evenly balanced unless you care not see it from both sides

I don't think there is evidence to suggest that anyone except Fox deliberately pushed opinions that they knew to be untrue.

That is a question of integrity.

Otherwise you are just talking about bias.

I'm responding to

"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up"

Do you agree or disagree with my last comment? "

You said that it was equally balanced.

That lack of integrity seems to be skewed to the right. So, I disagree.

There is certainly bias for both political wings, but again, there appear to be more right leaning news networks too.

Integrity and bias are different things.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up.

These people have no integrity.

Not just the right, it very evenly balanced unless you care not see it from both sides

I don't think there is evidence to suggest that anyone except Fox deliberately pushed opinions that they knew to be untrue.

That is a question of integrity.

Otherwise you are just talking about bias.

I'm responding to

"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up"

Do you agree or disagree with my last comment?

You said that it was equally balanced.

That lack of integrity seems to be skewed to the right. So, I disagree.

There is certainly bias for both political wings, but again, there appear to be more right leaning news networks too.

Integrity and bias are different things."

Unless we are centred on our views we will never see the same.

If you lean one way you will see more of the opposite, you lean left maybe and see more right wing bias and lies.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up.

These people have no integrity.

Not just the right, it very evenly balanced unless you care not see it from both sides

I don't think there is evidence to suggest that anyone except Fox deliberately pushed opinions that they knew to be untrue.

That is a question of integrity.

Otherwise you are just talking about bias.

I'm responding to

"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up"

Do you agree or disagree with my last comment?

You said that it was equally balanced.

That lack of integrity seems to be skewed to the right. So, I disagree.

There is certainly bias for both political wings, but again, there appear to be more right leaning news networks too.

Integrity and bias are different things.

Unless we are centred on our views we will never see the same.

If you lean one way you will see more of the opposite, you lean left maybe and see more right wing bias and lies.

"

You will certainly identify bias based on personal opinions.

Are bias and integrity the same?

Are there more large scale right leaning news organisations and publications than left leaning ones?

Is there a difference between publishing a lie without knowing that it is and publishing one knowing full well that it is?

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up.

These people have no integrity.

Not just the right, it very evenly balanced unless you care not see it from both sides

I don't think there is evidence to suggest that anyone except Fox deliberately pushed opinions that they knew to be untrue.

That is a question of integrity.

Otherwise you are just talking about bias.

I'm responding to

"Like all right wing media outlets they will peddle lies to keep ratings and revenue up"

Do you agree or disagree with my last comment?

You said that it was equally balanced.

That lack of integrity seems to be skewed to the right. So, I disagree.

There is certainly bias for both political wings, but again, there appear to be more right leaning news networks too.

Integrity and bias are different things.

Unless we are centred on our views we will never see the same.

If you lean one way you will see more of the opposite, you lean left maybe and see more right wing bias and lies.

You will certainly identify bias based on personal opinions.

Are bias and integrity the same?

Are there more large scale right leaning news organisations and publications than left leaning ones?

Is there a difference between publishing a lie without knowing that it is and publishing one knowing full well that it is?"

I have answered that, depends on personal views.

I'm not going into the justifications or not of publishing lies knowingly, both sides of the middle will and have been guilty of this.

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By *nglishdoodMan  over a year ago

Morristown


" Are there any other News organisations being sued for $1.6 billion for lying to its audience? kind of a drop in a bucket when it's still viewed as the number 1 source. Yet people still view and make informed decisions. Weird.

Blatant Fox News lies aside, it turned out that the other side was also engaged in partisanship as it was revealed in Twitter Files and the Hunter Biden laptop story which turned out to be true etc...

The truth is in the States, the media scene is heavily polarised and both sides pump their editorial stances into the news. Americans sort of live in their own echo chamber.

Meanwhile, in the UK, Murdoch-owned Sky News bulletins are largely factual when it comes to reporting straight-up news. It's a different media culture in the British scene. "

The Twitter / Hunter Biden story isn't the same at all. Twitter assuned the dick pics that were being posted from a foreign account were illegally obtained and for a short time tried to stop them being shared. Once they realised they were all over the internet and news stations they gave up. The request came from the Biden campaign because it was damaging, but it was the guy's son for Christ's sake. Wouldn't you try to do something if it was your kid?

There were real attempts to supress Twitter posts by the Trump administration... And they actually were 'the government' at the time.

Fox daytime and local news is largely legit in the US too. The problem is with the nighttime 'entertainment' shows. They're just literally wall-to-wall bollocks designed to appeal to a very specific demographic... In the words of Gene "the Waco Kid" Wilder "You know, morons"

Dominion are also suing:

OANN $1.6b

Newsmax $1.6b

Patrick Byrne $1.6b

Rudy Giuliani $1.3b

Sydney Powell $1.3b

Mike Lindell $1.3b

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By *astandFeistyCouple  over a year ago

Bournemouth


" Are there any other News organisations being sued for $1.6 billion for lying to its audience? kind of a drop in a bucket when it's still viewed as the number 1 source. Yet people still view and make informed decisions. Weird.

Blatant Fox News lies aside, it turned out that the other side was also engaged in partisanship as it was revealed in Twitter Files and the Hunter Biden laptop story which turned out to be true etc...

The truth is in the States, the media scene is heavily polarised and both sides pump their editorial stances into the news. Americans sort of live in their own echo chamber.

Meanwhile, in the UK, Murdoch-owned Sky News bulletins are largely factual when it comes to reporting straight-up news. It's a different media culture in the British scene.

The Twitter / Hunter Biden story isn't the same at all. Twitter assuned the dick pics that were being posted from a foreign account were illegally obtained and for a short time tried to stop them being shared. Once they realised they were all over the internet and news stations they gave up. The request came from the Biden campaign because it was damaging, but it was the guy's son for Christ's sake. Wouldn't you try to do something if it was your kid?

There were real attempts to supress Twitter posts by the Trump administration... And they actually were 'the government' at the time.

Fox daytime and local news is largely legit in the US too. The problem is with the nighttime 'entertainment' shows. They're just literally wall-to-wall bollocks designed to appeal to a very specific demographic... In the words of Gene "the Waco Kid" Wilder "You know, morons"

Dominion are also suing:

OANN $1.6b

Newsmax $1.6b

Patrick Byrne $1.6b

Rudy Giuliani $1.3b

Sydney Powell $1.3b

Mike Lindell $1.3b

"

The good old American suing system is firmly in place here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Are there any other News organisations being sued for $1.6 billion for lying to its audience? kind of a drop in a bucket when it's still viewed as the number 1 source. Yet people still view and make informed decisions. Weird.

Blatant Fox News lies aside, it turned out that the other side was also engaged in partisanship as it was revealed in Twitter Files and the Hunter Biden laptop story which turned out to be true etc...

The truth is in the States, the media scene is heavily polarised and both sides pump their editorial stances into the news. Americans sort of live in their own echo chamber.

Meanwhile, in the UK, Murdoch-owned Sky News bulletins are largely factual when it comes to reporting straight-up news. It's a different media culture in the British scene.

The Twitter / Hunter Biden story isn't the same at all. Twitter assuned the dick pics that were being posted from a foreign account were illegally obtained and for a short time tried to stop them being shared. Once they realised they were all over the internet and news stations they gave up. The request came from the Biden campaign because it was damaging, but it was the guy's son for Christ's sake. Wouldn't you try to do something if it was your kid?

There were real attempts to supress Twitter posts by the Trump administration... And they actually were 'the government' at the time.

Fox daytime and local news is largely legit in the US too. The problem is with the nighttime 'entertainment' shows. They're just literally wall-to-wall bollocks designed to appeal to a very specific demographic... In the words of Gene "the Waco Kid" Wilder "You know, morons"

Dominion are also suing:

OANN $1.6b

Newsmax $1.6b

Patrick Byrne $1.6b

Rudy Giuliani $1.3b

Sydney Powell $1.3b

Mike Lindell $1.3b

The good old American suing system is firmly in place here "

They do seem to love their lawsuits. Over a long enough time frame, you've gotta wonder if lawyers will have all the money in that country lol

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By *astandFeistyCouple  over a year ago

Bournemouth


" Are there any other News organisations being sued for $1.6 billion for lying to its audience? kind of a drop in a bucket when it's still viewed as the number 1 source. Yet people still view and make informed decisions. Weird.

Blatant Fox News lies aside, it turned out that the other side was also engaged in partisanship as it was revealed in Twitter Files and the Hunter Biden laptop story which turned out to be true etc...

The truth is in the States, the media scene is heavily polarised and both sides pump their editorial stances into the news. Americans sort of live in their own echo chamber.

Meanwhile, in the UK, Murdoch-owned Sky News bulletins are largely factual when it comes to reporting straight-up news. It's a different media culture in the British scene.

The Twitter / Hunter Biden story isn't the same at all. Twitter assuned the dick pics that were being posted from a foreign account were illegally obtained and for a short time tried to stop them being shared. Once they realised they were all over the internet and news stations they gave up. The request came from the Biden campaign because it was damaging, but it was the guy's son for Christ's sake. Wouldn't you try to do something if it was your kid?

There were real attempts to supress Twitter posts by the Trump administration... And they actually were 'the government' at the time.

Fox daytime and local news is largely legit in the US too. The problem is with the nighttime 'entertainment' shows. They're just literally wall-to-wall bollocks designed to appeal to a very specific demographic... In the words of Gene "the Waco Kid" Wilder "You know, morons"

Dominion are also suing:

OANN $1.6b

Newsmax $1.6b

Patrick Byrne $1.6b

Rudy Giuliani $1.3b

Sydney Powell $1.3b

Mike Lindell $1.3b

The good old American suing system is firmly in place here

They do seem to love their lawsuits. Over a long enough time frame, you've gotta wonder if lawyers will have all the money in that country lol"

We've surely all watched suits

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Are there any other News organisations being sued for $1.6 billion for lying to its audience? kind of a drop in a bucket when it's still viewed as the number 1 source. Yet people still view and make informed decisions. Weird.

Blatant Fox News lies aside, it turned out that the other side was also engaged in partisanship as it was revealed in Twitter Files and the Hunter Biden laptop story which turned out to be true etc...

The truth is in the States, the media scene is heavily polarised and both sides pump their editorial stances into the news. Americans sort of live in their own echo chamber.

Meanwhile, in the UK, Murdoch-owned Sky News bulletins are largely factual when it comes to reporting straight-up news. It's a different media culture in the British scene.

The Twitter / Hunter Biden story isn't the same at all. Twitter assuned the dick pics that were being posted from a foreign account were illegally obtained and for a short time tried to stop them being shared. Once they realised they were all over the internet and news stations they gave up. The request came from the Biden campaign because it was damaging, but it was the guy's son for Christ's sake. Wouldn't you try to do something if it was your kid?

There were real attempts to supress Twitter posts by the Trump administration... And they actually were 'the government' at the time.

Fox daytime and local news is largely legit in the US too. The problem is with the nighttime 'entertainment' shows. They're just literally wall-to-wall bollocks designed to appeal to a very specific demographic... In the words of Gene "the Waco Kid" Wilder "You know, morons"

Dominion are also suing:

OANN $1.6b

Newsmax $1.6b

Patrick Byrne $1.6b

Rudy Giuliani $1.3b

Sydney Powell $1.3b

Mike Lindell $1.3b

The good old American suing system is firmly in place here

They do seem to love their lawsuits. Over a long enough time frame, you've gotta wonder if lawyers will have all the money in that country lol

We've surely all watched suits "

lol you all actually think the supreme court would allow this ? Nope

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Is there a difference between publishing a lie without knowing that it is and publishing one knowing full well that it is?"

Legally for the purposes of defamation yes there is…. Because it’s the difference between in effect a genuine mistake and posting something recklessly.. and posting something maliciously with intent to harm

The first amendment protects the former….but not the latter!

That is why the fox case is so interesting… as there are a shed load of emails stating they knew it wasn’t true in private.. but continued with the lies in public and did nothing to counteract it on air when guests would come on!

Fox News are trying to use the “opinion not news” argument as if the guests thought this was genuine opinion that would have 1st amendment protection… but they had nothing to back up the opinion!

Fox should really have just settled out of court for loads of money without admitting liability (basically paying for it to go away)

I wonder if fox did not want to.. or dominion said no

The fact that murdoch basically threw his hosts under the bus in deposition basically makes it look a million times worse now

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Fox daytime and local news is largely legit in the US too. The problem is with the nighttime 'entertainment' shows. They're just literally wall-to-wall bollocks designed to appeal to a very specific demographic... In the words of Gene "the Waco Kid" Wilder "You know, morons"

Dominion are also suing:

OANN $1.6b

Newsmax $1.6b

Patrick Byrne $1.6b

Rudy Giuliani $1.3b

Sydney Powell $1.3b

Mike Lindell $1.3b

The good old American suing system is firmly in place here

They do seem to love their lawsuits. Over a long enough time frame, you've gotta wonder if lawyers will have all the money in that country lol

We've surely all watched suits lol you all actually think the supreme court would allow this ? Nope"

A) SCOTUS can’t get involved as they are civil lawsuits and not criminal ones! So it goes back to states rights

B) remember when dominion are actually suing for… it’s for loss of business and loss of reputation! If they can’t sell anything anymore because of the perception of their machines and software not working, they don’t have a business anymore!

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

The implication is GB "News" not having to provide any sense of balance and the BBC being rundown and criticised at every opportunity.

Essentially the same system here as in the US which seems to be something that the current party of Government has been keen on for some time.

Canary in the coalmine."

Actually… the broadcast law in the uk is very specific, basically if you get a certain amount of the vote then by law they have to treat you the same (I think the figure is 15% in a national election.. but don’t quote me on that!)

They have to give you equal airtime! That is why question time or politic live for example always have someone from the government, labour, Lib Dem in England/SNP in Scotland

Or on the Sunday morning shows or peston… government ministers follow by a labour representative ect

Party political broadcasts… Same time in the same week, one on each day

But… broadcast law at the moment only relates to “free to air!” It doesn’t relate to satellite or digital media as such….

Sky news do follow the broadcast rules on political impartiality but don’t have to (which is one of the reasons why murdoch when he owned sky would not show sky news in the US, because people would then have a direct comparison with Fox News which they considered a sister channel)

GB news doesn’t have to by law adhere to the impartiality rules so that is why it feels like it had that Fox News right wing slant!… the reason it feels so jarring is that the UK doesn’t have a left leaning alternative like Fox News has with MSNBC

Guess who did political science as part of their degree… that’s why I am a political/policy wonk!

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By *heshbifellaMan  over a year ago

Nantwich


"

The implication is GB "News" not having to provide any sense of balance and the BBC being rundown and criticised at every opportunity.

Essentially the same system here as in the US which seems to be something that the current party of Government has been keen on for some time.

Canary in the coalmine.

Actually… the broadcast law in the uk is very specific, basically if you get a certain amount of the vote then by law they have to treat you the same (I think the figure is 15% in a national election.. but don’t quote me on that!)

They have to give you equal airtime! That is why question time or politic live for example always have someone from the government, labour, Lib Dem in England/SNP in Scotland

Or on the Sunday morning shows or peston… government ministers follow by a labour representative ect

Party political broadcasts… Same time in the same week, one on each day

But… broadcast law at the moment only relates to “free to air!” It doesn’t relate to satellite or digital media as such….

Sky news do follow the broadcast rules on political impartiality but don’t have to (which is one of the reasons why murdoch when he owned sky would not show sky news in the US, because people would then have a direct comparison with Fox News which they considered a sister channel)

GB news doesn’t have to by law adhere to the impartiality rules so that is why it feels like it had that Fox News right wing slant!… the reason it feels so jarring is that the UK doesn’t have a left leaning alternative like Fox News has with MSNBC

Guess who did political science as part of their degree… that’s why I am a political/policy wonk! "

I'm glad you told us that you're a political /policy wonk since many might never have guessed from 'I think the figure is 15% in a national election.. but don’t quote me on that!'

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


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The implication is GB "News" not having to provide any sense of balance and the BBC being rundown and criticised at every opportunity.

Essentially the same system here as in the US which seems to be something that the current party of Government has been keen on for some time.

Canary in the coalmine.

Actually… the broadcast law in the uk is very specific, basically if you get a certain amount of the vote then by law they have to treat you the same (I think the figure is 15% in a national election.. but don’t quote me on that!)

They have to give you equal airtime! That is why question time or politic live for example always have someone from the government, labour, Lib Dem in England/SNP in Scotland

Or on the Sunday morning shows or peston… government ministers follow by a labour representative ect

Party political broadcasts… Same time in the same week, one on each day

But… broadcast law at the moment only relates to “free to air!” It doesn’t relate to satellite or digital media as such….

Sky news do follow the broadcast rules on political impartiality but don’t have to (which is one of the reasons why murdoch when he owned sky would not show sky news in the US, because people would then have a direct comparison with Fox News which they considered a sister channel)

GB news doesn’t have to by law adhere to the impartiality rules so that is why it feels like it had that Fox News right wing slant!… the reason it feels so jarring is that the UK doesn’t have a left leaning alternative like Fox News has with MSNBC

Guess who did political science as part of their degree… that’s why I am a political/policy wonk! "

My point was more that due to the requirement to have some balance that is currently the norm in the UK.

The law can be changed.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS  over a year ago

Southport

Haven't Fox News learnt anything from Trump. If you are going to enter into a criminal conspiracy you don't put anything down on paper or use your company's email or messaging servers. Haven't these numb-nuts heard of burner phones.

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