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I don't think its ever been as bad as it has been in the last 10yrs or so.
The office has been turned into an absolute circus by a bunch of spoiled rich kids. They are primarily responsible for the circus, aided by their tabloid friends. That is the environment they are most comfortable in, as they have been completely unfit for an office of that stature.
Sunak does appear to be trying to bring some professionalism and maturity to the position, of late. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
You OP appears to be sympathetic?
Nobody is made to be PM and I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to go for the job. They are public servants and as such should be expected to be held to the highest standard, be utterly scrutinised, and face the consequences of any transgressions. |
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"You OP appears to be sympathetic?
Nobody is made to be PM and I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to go for the job. They are public servants and as such should be expected to be held to the highest standard, be utterly scrutinised, and face the consequences of any transgressions. "
Bear this in mind when a Labour PM is under fire |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
The way I see it, nobody can really just walk into the role without the grounding and understanding that comes with being a party member, MP and minister. Some have short cut the process, Trump springs to mind.
The hours are long, everyman and his dog knows better than you, people dislike you for being you, the press wont leave you alone and people turn up outside your front gates shouting.
All that before breakfast, I will give it a swerve this time around but thanks for the offer
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"You OP appears to be sympathetic?
Nobody is made to be PM and I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to go for the job. They are public servants and as such should be expected to be held to the highest standard, be utterly scrutinised, and face the consequences of any transgressions. "
I'll take that as a not for me.
Like me thanks but no thanks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I would never wanna be PM. It's just endless hassle.
But the people who have been PM chose the job. They didn't have to do it. And the job affects millions of people. So I don't have much sympathy for PMs who fuck up. And they all seem to fuck up some way. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"You OP appears to be sympathetic?
Nobody is made to be PM and I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to go for the job. They are public servants and as such should be expected to be held to the highest standard, be utterly scrutinised, and face the consequences of any transgressions.
Bear this in mind when a Labour PM is under fire "
Why wouldn't I? Odd thing to say! |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
North West |
"I don't think its ever been as bad as it has been in the last 10yrs or so.
The office has been turned into an absolute circus by a bunch of spoiled rich kids. They are primarily responsible for the circus, aided by their tabloid friends. That is the environment they are most comfortable in, as they have been completely unfit for an office of that stature.
Sunak does appear to be trying to bring some professionalism and maturity to the position, of late."
If Sunak can pull off the N Ireland protocol thing, he will simultaneously put the ERG and the DUP in their place. At that moment the Conservative Party will be able to start to rehabilitate itself.
Unfortunately, I don’t see this happening for all his best intentions. The ERG can only be nullified within the Party when they are out of office and the DUP can be put in its place by allowing the people of N Ireland to vote on any proposed solutions with the EU.
I do admire Sunak for trying to do what he is doing and I wish that I thought differently about the outcome but I just can’t see him facing down the extremists and winning. |
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over a year ago
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"Where the fuck is Sunak anyway?
Also, trying to rehabilitate the tory brand is like trying to polish a turd.
What do you mean, where is he?"
He’s rarely on TV and other outlets, or talking about his vision, it’s like he doesn’t want to face the nation.
Probably because even he thinks the tories are a lost cause, what is the point of promoting them. |
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"Where the fuck is Sunak anyway?
Also, trying to rehabilitate the tory brand is like trying to polish a turd.
What do you mean, where is he?
He’s rarely on TV and other outlets, or talking about his vision, it’s like he doesn’t want to face the nation.
Probably because even he thinks the tories are a lost cause, what is the point of promoting them."
I can only assume he's 'quietly' going about business.
Exactly what we need right now imo |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think Sunak is between a rock and a hard place trying to please all the different factions in his party.
the whole thing is a mess and I dont believe the Torries are fit to govern right now. They wont be getting my vote at the next election for sure. |
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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago
outside your bedroom window ;-) |
"You OP appears to be sympathetic?
Nobody is made to be PM and I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to go for the job. They are public servants and as such should be expected to be held to the highest standard, be utterly scrutinised, and face the consequences of any transgressions. "
Nonsense, everyone is entitled tona private life and if it isn't breaking any laws or political guidance what does it matter.
It's the job you do in the job that counts. |
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"Where the fuck is Sunak anyway?
Also, trying to rehabilitate the tory brand is like trying to polish a turd.
What do you mean, where is he?
He’s rarely on TV and other outlets, or talking about his vision, it’s like he doesn’t want to face the nation.
Probably because even he thinks the tories are a lost cause, what is the point of promoting them.
I can only assume he's 'quietly' going about business.
Exactly what we need right now imo"
It's exactly what the UK needs right now. Especially after the Johnson circus and the gross incompetence of Truss.
People got used to seeing the PM with their mug stuck in some tabloid or some nonsense story, just keeping everyone distracted, while they were doing very little.
Sunaks silence is a breath of fresh air, surely? |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Where the fuck is Sunak anyway?
Also, trying to rehabilitate the tory brand is like trying to polish a turd.
What do you mean, where is he?
He’s rarely on TV and other outlets, or talking about his vision, it’s like he doesn’t want to face the nation.
Probably because even he thinks the tories are a lost cause, what is the point of promoting them.
I can only assume he's 'quietly' going about business.
Exactly what we need right now imo"
Quietly cutting back room deals and dodgy handshakes to feather hid nest for when he inevitably loses this job (I know he doesn’t need the money, it is all about power and influence). |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"You OP appears to be sympathetic?
Nobody is made to be PM and I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to go for the job. They are public servants and as such should be expected to be held to the highest standard, be utterly scrutinised, and face the consequences of any transgressions.
Nonsense, everyone is entitled tona private life and if it isn't breaking any laws or political guidance what does it matter.
It's the job you do in the job that counts."
Who said anything about not having a private life? The key point is “not breaking the law” to which you need to add “not breaking the ministerial code” and “not putting at risk national security” and “not financially benefitting yourself, your friends , cronies or family” ie utterly scrutinised!
Johnson, for example, couldn’t tick any of those boxes!
Nobody should care what they do in their private life as long as those actions do not compromise their integrity and ability to do the job. But if those actions result in you being open to influence then that isn’t acceptable in public office. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
I reckon we could put together quite the Cabinet from posters on the Fab forum. Obviously we are not allowed to name names but I can instantly think of...
Speaker = pedantry on everything
Education Minister = grammatical pedantry
Green energy Minister = all manner of eco energy hacks and money making schemes
Justice Minister = there’s a few and it depends if we want a left or right wing Cabinet
Defence Minister = some real experts on here so stiff competition
Home Secretary = no longer with us
Business Secretary = no longer posting (or is he using a different name?)
Chancellor = from what I have seen I wouldn’t trust any of you to look after our money LOL
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"I reckon we could put together quite the Cabinet from posters on the Fab forum. Obviously we are not allowed to name names but I can instantly think of...
Speaker = pedantry on everything
Education Minister = grammatical pedantry
Green energy Minister = all manner of eco energy hacks and money making schemes
Justice Minister = there’s a few and it depends if we want a left or right wing Cabinet
Defence Minister = some real experts on here so stiff competition
Home Secretary = no longer with us
Business Secretary = no longer posting (or is he using a different name?)
Chancellor = from what I have seen I wouldn’t trust any of you to look after our money LOL
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The best part about this post is that I can actually work half of them out |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"I reckon we could put together quite the Cabinet from posters on the Fab forum. Obviously we are not allowed to name names but I can instantly think of...
Speaker = pedantry on everything
Education Minister = grammatical pedantry
Green energy Minister = all manner of eco energy hacks and money making schemes
Justice Minister = there’s a few and it depends if we want a left or right wing Cabinet
Defence Minister = some real experts on here so stiff competition
Home Secretary = no longer with us
Business Secretary = no longer posting (or is he using a different name?)
Chancellor = from what I have seen I wouldn’t trust any of you to look after our money LOL
The best part about this post is that I can actually work half of them out "
Only half
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"I reckon we could put together quite the Cabinet from posters on the Fab forum. Obviously we are not allowed to name names but I can instantly think of...
Speaker = pedantry on everything
Education Minister = grammatical pedantry
Green energy Minister = all manner of eco energy hacks and money making schemes
Justice Minister = there’s a few and it depends if we want a left or right wing Cabinet
Defence Minister = some real experts on here so stiff competition
Home Secretary = no longer with us
Business Secretary = no longer posting (or is he using a different name?)
Chancellor = from what I have seen I wouldn’t trust any of you to look after our money LOL
The best part about this post is that I can actually work half of them out
Only half
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I started really well and then fell away. Always the problem |
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"I reckon we could put together quite the Cabinet from posters on the Fab forum. Obviously we are not allowed to name names but I can instantly think of...
Speaker = pedantry on everything
Education Minister = grammatical pedantry
Green energy Minister = all manner of eco energy hacks and money making schemes
Justice Minister = there’s a few and it depends if we want a left or right wing Cabinet
Defence Minister = some real experts on here so stiff competition
Home Secretary = no longer with us
Business Secretary = no longer posting (or is he using a different name?)
Chancellor = from what I have seen I wouldn’t trust any of you to look after our money LOL
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Who would be party chairman in your world? Apologies, chairperson  |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"I reckon we could put together quite the Cabinet from posters on the Fab forum. Obviously we are not allowed to name names but I can instantly think of...
Speaker = pedantry on everything
Education Minister = grammatical pedantry
Green energy Minister = all manner of eco energy hacks and money making schemes
Justice Minister = there’s a few and it depends if we want a left or right wing Cabinet
Defence Minister = some real experts on here so stiff competition
Home Secretary = no longer with us
Business Secretary = no longer posting (or is he using a different name?)
Chancellor = from what I have seen I wouldn’t trust any of you to look after our money LOL
Who would be party chairman in your world? Apologies, chairperson "
Lolz |
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"Where the fuck is Sunak anyway?
Also, trying to rehabilitate the tory brand is like trying to polish a turd.
What do you mean, where is he?
He’s rarely on TV and other outlets, or talking about his vision, it’s like he doesn’t want to face the nation.
Probably because even he thinks the tories are a lost cause, what is the point of promoting them.
I can only assume he's 'quietly' going about business.
Exactly what we need right now imo"
Yep just doing the job of running a country.
You don't see the FT100 doing TV bullocks |
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"Would give it a go on the proviso I would be helicoptered out at midday on a Friday to chequers for a piss up over the weekend.
Can’t be that hard a job Boris did it.  "
And I guess you would be happy for the press to follow and your wife and kids to be on TV etc |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Would give it a go on the proviso I would be helicoptered out at midday on a Friday to chequers for a piss up over the weekend.
Can’t be that hard a job Boris did it.
And I guess you would be happy for the press to follow and your wife and kids to be on TV etc "
To be fair I think Johnson has more kids then there are TV stations!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Would give it a go on the proviso I would be helicoptered out at midday on a Friday to chequers for a piss up over the weekend.
Can’t be that hard a job Boris did it.
And I guess you would be happy for the press to follow and your wife and kids to be on TV etc
To be fair I think Johnson has more kids then there are TV stations! "
Maybe it was all a long-term cunning plan of Johnson's. Have so many wives, girlfriends, mistresses & kids the press can't possibly follow them all. |
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"Would give it a go on the proviso I would be helicoptered out at midday on a Friday to chequers for a piss up over the weekend.
Can’t be that hard a job Boris did it.
And I guess you would be happy for the press to follow and your wife and kids to be on TV etc "
Wouldn’t bother comes with the job.
That and I don’t have any |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Where the fuck is Sunak anyway?
Also, trying to rehabilitate the tory brand is like trying to polish a turd.
What do you mean, where is he?
He’s rarely on TV and other outlets, or talking about his vision, it’s like he doesn’t want to face the nation.
Probably because even he thinks the tories are a lost cause, what is the point of promoting them.
I can only assume he's 'quietly' going about business.
Exactly what we need right now imo
Yep just doing the job of running a country.
You don't see the FT100 doing TV bullocks "
Sunak is hiding the tax returns he said he publish, but has yet to. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Where the fuck is Sunak anyway?
Also, trying to rehabilitate the tory brand is like trying to polish a turd.
What do you mean, where is he?
He’s rarely on TV and other outlets, or talking about his vision, it’s like he doesn’t want to face the nation.
Probably because even he thinks the tories are a lost cause, what is the point of promoting them.
I can only assume he's 'quietly' going about business.
Exactly what we need right now imo
Yep just doing the job of running a country.
You don't see the FT100 doing TV bullocks
Sunak is hiding the tax returns he said he publish, but has yet to."
I'm sure he just lost em down the back of the sofa. |
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"You OP appears to be sympathetic?
Nobody is made to be PM and I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to go for the job. They are public servants and as such should be expected to be held to the highest standard, be utterly scrutinised, and face the consequences of any transgressions.
Bear this in mind when a Labour PM is under fire "
They would have to win an election first.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You OP appears to be sympathetic?
Nobody is made to be PM and I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to go for the job. They are public servants and as such should be expected to be held to the highest standard, be utterly scrutinised, and face the consequences of any transgressions.
Bear this in mind when a Labour PM is under fire
They would have to win an election first.... "
They've won elections before & will likely win the next 1. What will your stance be then? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You OP appears to be sympathetic?
Nobody is made to be PM and I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to go for the job. They are public servants and as such should be expected to be held to the highest standard, be utterly scrutinised, and face the consequences of any transgressions.
Bear this in mind when a Labour PM is under fire
They would have to win an election first.... "
They have won 3 (all with a huge majorities) out of the last 7 elections  |
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"You OP appears to be sympathetic?
Nobody is made to be PM and I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to go for the job. They are public servants and as such should be expected to be held to the highest standard, be utterly scrutinised, and face the consequences of any transgressions.
Bear this in mind when a Labour PM is under fire
They would have to win an election first.... "
OK I go with that so would you Stand I would not as as said would not want the role |
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"You OP appears to be sympathetic?
Nobody is made to be PM and I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to go for the job. They are public servants and as such should be expected to be held to the highest standard, be utterly scrutinised, and face the consequences of any transgressions.
Bear this in mind when a Labour PM is under fire
They would have to win an election first.... "
OK I go with that so would you Stand I would not as as said would not want the role. |
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By *ouple1Couple
over a year ago
Preston |
You just have to love British democracy
A PM who originally lost the leadership campaign
No one voted for him as PM
A PM with Non Dom status
A PM who appears to be a part time worker
A PM who he and his wife avoids paying tax
A PM who's wife's income comes from Russian oligarchs
How did this happen and why are we not having a Revolution |
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"You just have to love British democracy
A PM who originally lost the leadership campaign
No one voted for him as PM
A PM with Non Dom status
A PM who appears to be a part time worker
A PM who he and his wife avoids paying tax
A PM who's wife's income comes from Russian oligarchs
How did this happen and why are we not having a Revolution "
Plus he has yet to publish his tax affairs, which he promised to do. |
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"You just have to love British democracy
A PM who originally lost the leadership campaign
No one voted for him as PM
A PM with Non Dom status
A PM who appears to be a part time worker
A PM who he and his wife avoids paying tax
A PM who's wife's income comes from Russian oligarchs
How did this happen and why are we not having a Revolution "
Maybe there's no revolution because almost none of that happened, and it's mostly untrue. |
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"So how would want the job.
The invasion of privacy and the press etc.
Move to Central London etc.
Me no way not for all the tea in China."
They literally wanted the job. They knows what comes with it
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"You just have to love British democracy
A PM who originally lost the leadership campaign
No one voted for him as PM
A PM with Non Dom status
A PM who appears to be a part time worker
A PM who he and his wife avoids paying tax
A PM who's wife's income comes from Russian oligarchs
How did this happen and why are we not having a Revolution "
Really?? You'll have to do better than that |
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"You just have to love British democracy
A PM who originally lost the leadership campaign
No one voted for him as PM
A PM with Non Dom status
A PM who appears to be a part time worker
A PM who he and his wife avoids paying tax
A PM who's wife's income comes from Russian oligarchs
How did this happen and why are we not having a Revolution "
So as the question stands would you want the job and all that comes with it. |
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