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I just saw that. I have mixed feelings. I don't think she did a lot of good for many people and was a thorn in the side of much progress. But I have to say. I think she was passionate, she was a strong and a brilliant politician. And we would be better with more politicians who had the courage of their convictions like she did.
We need politicians, we need good ones, and we need to have robust political debate and I think she bought a lot of that to her politics. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
North West |
Not sure what to make of this to be honest.
If she is replaced by an equally talented Leader then nothing much changes in as much as the SNP will remain true to their identity and popular because of it.
If the SNP lose their way a little then Labour become the only credible alternative to the Conservatives in Westminster.
So whatever happens it will either continue to be good for the SNP or it will be a good thing for Labour. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"Ob right,i thought you where an adult
Nah it all gets too serious around here sometimes!
bet your wee nursery pals think you dead funny  "
What is it you see in Jimmy Krankie that makes you feel it is an insult to be compared to her? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has she?
Good riddance. I hope Scotland can have a proper leader now 
What is a proper leader?"
Yeah, I’d love to know as well, oh wait Boris, May et Al  |
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"Thing wont change much the snp will win any election"
I think Scots got a bit tired of her autocracy.. The gender identity thing was the straw.
A new leader will reenergise them and do even better... |
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"Has she?
Good riddance. I hope Scotland can have a proper leader now
We have got a leader, it's the Prime Minister.
Who is unelected "
We do not elect a Prime Minister.
We elect MPs, those MPs then elect the PM. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Has she?
Good riddance. I hope Scotland can have a proper leader now
We have got a leader, it's the Prime Minister.
Who is unelected
We do not elect a Prime Minister.
We elect MPs, those MPs then elect the PM."
Shhh Brexiters might start drawing parallels and comparisons with EU and democracy! |
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"Ob right,i thought you where an adult
Nah it all gets too serious around here sometimes!
bet your wee nursery pals think you dead funny
What is it you see in Jimmy Krankie that makes you feel it is an insult to be compared to her?"
Because she was scotlands first minister and deserves respect |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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From the perspective of some1 outside Scotland, this seemed to come v suddenly.
I guess the big question is: how does this affect any push for Scotland's independence? |
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"From the perspective of some1 outside Scotland, this seemed to come v suddenly.
I guess the big question is: how does this affect any push for Scotland's independence?"
Dont think it will change much |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has she?
Good riddance. I hope Scotland can have a proper leader now
We have got a leader, it's the Prime Minister.
Who is unelected
We do not elect a Prime Minister.
We elect MPs, those MPs then elect the PM."
He is still the leader. His party selected him but is still the leader. Nit pick as much as you like he is. |
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"Has she?
Good riddance. I hope Scotland can have a proper leader now
We have got a leader, it's the Prime Minister.
Who is unelected
We do not elect a Prime Minister.
We elect MPs, those MPs then elect the PM.
He is still the leader. His party selected him but is still the leader. Nit pick as much as you like he is."
Not sure why you're replying to me. I wasn't nit picking |
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"From the perspective of some1 outside Scotland, this seemed to come v suddenly.
I guess the big question is: how does this affect any push for Scotland's independence?"
Agree it is quite sudden. Only 2 weeks ago, she was advising Laura Kuenssberg that she was 'nowhere near' stepping down.
I'm not sure it changes anything re Scottish Independence. There's insufficient appetite for it amongst Scots right now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not close to Scottish politics... Is this just a case of it it being time ... Was she under that much pressure from the gender reform... Or avoiding something else?
There been a few wrinkles with the SNP from what I have seen...from a distance it was starting to to feel like an snp led indy Scotland would have the same headlines as the Tories today ... Which no doubt would undemine some of the reason for voting to leave the union...
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By *ugehandsMan
over a year ago
Fife/ Newcastle |
"Ob right,i thought you where an adult
Nah it all gets too serious around here sometimes!
bet your wee nursery pals think you dead funny
What is it you see in Jimmy Krankie that makes you feel it is an insult to be compared to her?
Because she was scotlands first minister and deserves respect"
What did she achieve that deserves our respect? |
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"I'm not close to Scottish politics... Is this just a case of it it being time ... Was she under that much pressure from the gender reform... Or avoiding something else?
There been a few wrinkles with the SNP from what I have seen...from a distance it was starting to to feel like an snp led indy Scotland would have the same headlines as the Tories today ... Which no doubt would undemine some of the reason for voting to leave the union...
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Wouldn't surprise me if the press have some nastiness they were threatening to unleash as its come about so soon. For all her faults she was passionately tenacious in her job. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"I'm not close to Scottish politics... Is this just a case of it it being time ... Was she under that much pressure from the gender reform... Or avoiding something else?
There been a few wrinkles with the SNP from what I have seen...from a distance it was starting to to feel like an snp led indy Scotland would have the same headlines as the Tories today ... Which no doubt would undemine some of the reason for voting to leave the union...
Wouldn't surprise me if the press have some nastiness they were threatening to unleash as its come about so soon. For all her faults she was passionately tenacious in her job. "
This is what I struggle with, she wanted to split an island, and she was 100% committed to that.
Now she is tenacious and passionate, I’m not buying into this, she was aggressive and bloody minded.
I remember many meetings with corporate bullies in the early 2000’s, when they went off on one, there staff would rally round and tell us how passionate they were about the issue in hand, reminds of her 100%, her way or no way |
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"I'm not close to Scottish politics... Is this just a case of it it being time ... Was she under that much pressure from the gender reform... Or avoiding something else?
There been a few wrinkles with the SNP from what I have seen...from a distance it was starting to to feel like an snp led indy Scotland would have the same headlines as the Tories today ... Which no doubt would undemine some of the reason for voting to leave the union...
Wouldn't surprise me if the press have some nastiness they were threatening to unleash as its come about so soon. For all her faults she was passionately tenacious in her job.
This is what I struggle with, she wanted to split an island, and she was 100% committed to that.
Now she is tenacious and passionate, I’m not buying into this, she was aggressive and bloody minded.
I remember many meetings with corporate bullies in the early 2000’s, when they went off on one, there staff would rally round and tell us how passionate they were about the issue in hand, reminds of her 100%, her way or no way"
She reminds me of some of the heavyweights of yester year..
Scargill... Livingstone.. Smith.. Tebbit...wedgie...hesser.. Clarke... Thatcher... Unlike the lightweights now who hold onto their values about as long as it takes to send a tik tok video |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"I'm not close to Scottish politics... Is this just a case of it it being time ... Was she under that much pressure from the gender reform... Or avoiding something else?
There been a few wrinkles with the SNP from what I have seen...from a distance it was starting to to feel like an snp led indy Scotland would have the same headlines as the Tories today ... Which no doubt would undemine some of the reason for voting to leave the union...
Wouldn't surprise me if the press have some nastiness they were threatening to unleash as its come about so soon. For all her faults she was passionately tenacious in her job.
This is what I struggle with, she wanted to split an island, and she was 100% committed to that.
Now she is tenacious and passionate, I’m not buying into this, she was aggressive and bloody minded.
I remember many meetings with corporate bullies in the early 2000’s, when they went off on one, there staff would rally round and tell us how passionate they were about the issue in hand, reminds of her 100%, her way or no way
She reminds me of some of the heavyweights of yester year..
Scargill... Livingstone.. Smith.. Tebbit...wedgie...hesser.. Clarke... Thatcher... Unlike the lightweights now who hold onto their values about as long as it takes to send a tik tok video "
I agree but she was so far down the rabbit hole, it left her nowhere to go. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Does that mean she’ll be back on children’s TV?
When has she been on childrens tv?
As one half of the Krankies "
Just spat out my Copper Dog! Thanks for that.
I thought she was wanting to guest appear on the old Fantasy Island film?  |
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"Ob right,i thought you where an adult
Nah it all gets too serious around here sometimes!
bet your wee nursery pals think you dead funny
What is it you see in Jimmy Krankie that makes you feel it is an insult to be compared to her?
Because she was scotlands first minister and deserves respect
What did she achieve that deserves our respect? "
She won 8 straight elections and saw off 5 pms that alone deserves respect |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It would be interesting to see if the SNP have the integrity to call an election now that there needs to be a ne First Minister. They did after all demand a General election on the resignations of both Johnson and Truss. (not sure if I've spelled Johnson correctly and cant be bothered Googling it. I appologise if I've gotten it wrong Boris. I know he reads these).
Very hypocritical of them not to I think. |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
Not all that North of North London |
"It would be interesting to see if the SNP have the integrity to call an election now that there needs to be a ne First Minister. They did after all demand a General election on the resignations of both Johnson and Truss. (not sure if I've spelled Johnson correctly and cant be bothered Googling it. I appologise if I've gotten it wrong Boris. I know he reads these).
Very hypocritical of them not to I think."
Can the SNP call an election? |
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"I'm surprised it's went so quiet, so quickly since her resignation.
I expected the media to be full of scandal.
She done her bit, time for Scotland to move on.
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Watch this space … more to come
Note the unexpected resignation of Police Scotland Chief ! |
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"Does that mean she’ll be back on children’s TV?
When has she been on childrens tv?
As one half of the Krankies
My actual next door neighbours.."
The Krankies are your neighbours? |
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I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability. |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability. "
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job..... |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job....."
But what you seem to be forgetting is when Scotland become independent, all those problems will disappear. |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job....."
For context, can you give the equivalent results for England please? |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job....."
But indyref.... |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job.....
For context, can you give the equivalent results for England please? "
Does that make them better then? Or mean they arent true? |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job.....
For context, can you give the equivalent results for England please?
Does that make them better then? Or mean they arent true? "
Just seeking a bit of context to show that the other parts of the UK are facing exactly the same issues. Its way to easy to type the above and suggest Scotland is failing, which incidentally it could do better, but England is suffering exactly the same or worse in some cases. |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job.....
For context, can you give the equivalent results for England please?
Does that make them better then? Or mean they arent true?
Just seeking a bit of context to show that the other parts of the UK are facing exactly the same issues. Its way to easy to type the above and suggest Scotland is failing, which incidentally it could do better, but England is suffering exactly the same or worse in some cases. "
Other parts of the uk atent governed by a devolved scottish govt. The Scottish Government runs the country in relation to matters that are devolved from Westminster. This includes: the economy, education, health, justice, rural affairs, housing, environment, equal opportunities, consumer advocacy and advice, transport and taxation.
The fact the tory govt have driven the rest of the uk into the rocks does not excuse the poor performance of the devolved govt. It just shows there have been two bloody awful govts. |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job.....
For context, can you give the equivalent results for England please?
Does that make them better then? Or mean they arent true?
Just seeking a bit of context to show that the other parts of the UK are facing exactly the same issues. Its way to easy to type the above and suggest Scotland is failing, which incidentally it could do better, but England is suffering exactly the same or worse in some cases.
Other parts of the uk atent governed by a devolved scottish govt. The Scottish Government runs the country in relation to matters that are devolved from Westminster. This includes: the economy, education, health, justice, rural affairs, housing, environment, equal opportunities, consumer advocacy and advice, transport and taxation.
The fact the tory govt have driven the rest of the uk into the rocks does not excuse the poor performance of the devolved govt. It just shows there have been two bloody awful govts. "
You can't fully judge a government who don't have full powers to govern.
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job.....
For context, can you give the equivalent results for England please?
Does that make them better then? Or mean they arent true?
Just seeking a bit of context to show that the other parts of the UK are facing exactly the same issues. Its way to easy to type the above and suggest Scotland is failing, which incidentally it could do better, but England is suffering exactly the same or worse in some cases.
Other parts of the uk atent governed by a devolved scottish govt. The Scottish Government runs the country in relation to matters that are devolved from Westminster. This includes: the economy, education, health, justice, rural affairs, housing, environment, equal opportunities, consumer advocacy and advice, transport and taxation.
The fact the tory govt have driven the rest of the uk into the rocks does not excuse the poor performance of the devolved govt. It just shows there have been two bloody awful govts.
You can't fully judge a government who don't have full powers to govern.
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You can judge them on their record in the areas that they do have full powers to govern. I think that's what people are doing. |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job.....
For context, can you give the equivalent results for England please?
Does that make them better then? Or mean they arent true?
Just seeking a bit of context to show that the other parts of the UK are facing exactly the same issues. Its way to easy to type the above and suggest Scotland is failing, which incidentally it could do better, but England is suffering exactly the same or worse in some cases.
Other parts of the uk atent governed by a devolved scottish govt. The Scottish Government runs the country in relation to matters that are devolved from Westminster. This includes: the economy, education, health, justice, rural affairs, housing, environment, equal opportunities, consumer advocacy and advice, transport and taxation.
The fact the tory govt have driven the rest of the uk into the rocks does not excuse the poor performance of the devolved govt. It just shows there have been two bloody awful govts.
You can't fully judge a government who don't have full powers to govern.
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Everything on the list I provided is under FULL Snp Control.
The problems raised are not due to lack of money they are entirely due to bad policies and a Government obsessed with independence. |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job.....
For context, can you give the equivalent results for England please?
Does that make them better then? Or mean they arent true?
Just seeking a bit of context to show that the other parts of the UK are facing exactly the same issues. Its way to easy to type the above and suggest Scotland is failing, which incidentally it could do better, but England is suffering exactly the same or worse in some cases.
Other parts of the uk atent governed by a devolved scottish govt. The Scottish Government runs the country in relation to matters that are devolved from Westminster. This includes: the economy, education, health, justice, rural affairs, housing, environment, equal opportunities, consumer advocacy and advice, transport and taxation.
The fact the tory govt have driven the rest of the uk into the rocks does not excuse the poor performance of the devolved govt. It just shows there have been two bloody awful govts.
You can't fully judge a government who don't have full powers to govern.
You can judge them on their record in the areas that they do have full powers to govern. I think that's what people are doing."
Exactly this |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job.....
For context, can you give the equivalent results for England please?
Does that make them better then? Or mean they arent true?
Just seeking a bit of context to show that the other parts of the UK are facing exactly the same issues. Its way to easy to type the above and suggest Scotland is failing, which incidentally it could do better, but England is suffering exactly the same or worse in some cases.
Other parts of the uk atent governed by a devolved scottish govt. The Scottish Government runs the country in relation to matters that are devolved from Westminster. This includes: the economy, education, health, justice, rural affairs, housing, environment, equal opportunities, consumer advocacy and advice, transport and taxation.
The fact the tory govt have driven the rest of the uk into the rocks does not excuse the poor performance of the devolved govt. It just shows there have been two bloody awful govts.
You can't fully judge a government who don't have full powers to govern.
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That is true. However the matters listed have been fully devolved to scottish government. The list is on the gov.scot website. |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job.....
For context, can you give the equivalent results for England please?
Does that make them better then? Or mean they arent true?
Just seeking a bit of context to show that the other parts of the UK are facing exactly the same issues. Its way to easy to type the above and suggest Scotland is failing, which incidentally it could do better, but England is suffering exactly the same or worse in some cases.
Other parts of the uk atent governed by a devolved scottish govt. The Scottish Government runs the country in relation to matters that are devolved from Westminster. This includes: the economy, education, health, justice, rural affairs, housing, environment, equal opportunities, consumer advocacy and advice, transport and taxation.
The fact the tory govt have driven the rest of the uk into the rocks does not excuse the poor performance of the devolved govt. It just shows there have been two bloody awful govts.
You can't fully judge a government who don't have full powers to govern.
That is true. However the matters listed have been fully devolved to scottish government. The list is on the gov.scot website. "
Exactly! The SNP cannot blame anyone but themselves |
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"I think she has been an exceptional leader, has she got things wrong? Yes. But show me a politician who hasn't. She certainly stepped up to the plate during covid. As for independence, nothing changes, the grassroots movement are more than snp, the snp are just the political vehicle to get a referendum. I challenge anyone to hand on heart suggest that anything she has done over the last few years comes anywhere close to the lunacy that has been going on in Westminster. May/Johnson/Truss? Nowhere near her level of compassion, decency and ability.
Highest drug deaths in Europe
Scottish NHS in a complete mess including a new hospital 10 years late opening.Nippy created a new law saying all new patients will be seen within 12 weeks never happened
A&E targets not hit since 2017
Cancer targets not hit since 2013
Education system worst results in a decade
Scotland has one of the worst budget deficits of any Country in Europe
Ferry orders they went well
But yes she has done a wonderful job.....
For context, can you give the equivalent results for England please?
Does that make them better then? Or mean they arent true?
Just seeking a bit of context to show that the other parts of the UK are facing exactly the same issues. Its way to easy to type the above and suggest Scotland is failing, which incidentally it could do better, but England is suffering exactly the same or worse in some cases.
Other parts of the uk atent governed by a devolved scottish govt. The Scottish Government runs the country in relation to matters that are devolved from Westminster. This includes: the economy, education, health, justice, rural affairs, housing, environment, equal opportunities, consumer advocacy and advice, transport and taxation.
The fact the tory govt have driven the rest of the uk into the rocks does not excuse the poor performance of the devolved govt. It just shows there have been two bloody awful govts.
You can't fully judge a government who don't have full powers to govern.
That is true. However the matters listed have been fully devolved to scottish government. The list is on the gov.scot website.
Exactly! The SNP cannot blame anyone but themselves "
They could blame Covid, the Ukraine war, lefties , remoaners , Corbyn, the woke, immigrants etc etc |
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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago
Paisley |
And so it begins. Our very own House of Cards. Watch them topple as this progresses. 30,000 members have already left the SNP over the last year or so. This isn’t a party ready to take on Independence. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"Call me cynical.
She resigns
The this happens 7 weeks later.
Almost like she was forever warned of this when she shouldn't have been and given time to get her household affairs in order."
There is certainly something fishy about this, sorry! |
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"Call me cynical.
She resigns
The this happens 7 weeks later.
Almost like she was forever warned of this when she shouldn't have been and given time to get her household affairs in order.
There is certainly something fishy about this, sorry! "
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Always thought there was something fishy about her from the start, and not just about her name either.
There were stories about her husbands donations around the time that she resigned.
I suspected at the time she announced she was stepping down that there would be more to it and that likely criminal investigations were coming |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"Call me cynical.
She resigns
The this happens 7 weeks later.
Almost like she was forever warned of this when she shouldn't have been and given time to get her household affairs in order.
There is certainly something fishy about this, sorry!
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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It appears that some of the money donated to fight an independence campaign has gone missing considering there has not yet been a campaign. Looks like some was used as a loan to the SNP as they have or had cash flow problems |
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"I'm surprised it's went so quiet, so quickly since her resignation.
I expected the media to be full of scandal.
She done her bit, time for Scotland to move on.
Watch this space … more to come
Note the unexpected resignation of Police Scotland Chief !"
and there’s still more to come …
Murrells arrest is tip of the iceberg
£600k missing - ha! - wait until they get to the other stuff |
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"I'm surprised it's went so quiet, so quickly since her resignation.
I expected the media to be full of scandal.
She done her bit, time for Scotland to move on.
Watch this space … more to come
Note the unexpected resignation of Police Scotland Chief !
and there’s still more to come …
Murrells arrest is tip of the iceberg
£600k missing - ha! - wait until they get to the other stuff"
Yes the investigation is still to come due to her moving elderly out of hospitals and into Nursing homes without being tested, this was the main source of infection and sadly many lost their life's.
This investigation is long over due |
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Sturgeon and Swinney are next for the cop shop.
This investigation is widening and is not just about the SNP finances / 600k
Ferguson, Ferries, Gupta, covid funds I have no doubt are linked to current events |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"Police put a tent up in the front garden... Maybe they are doing some digging inside ? "
I think because it was raining and slightly keeping things out of the public eye bit of privacy like a little office prior to taking things further in transport keeping it close to the scene of the crime |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"Sturgeon and Swinney are next for the cop shop.
This investigation is widening and is not just about the SNP finances / 600k
Ferguson, Ferries, Gupta, covid funds I have no doubt are linked to current events "
Out of interest why do youvhave no doubt covod funds are linked to the current events? |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"I'm surprised it's went so quiet, so quickly since her resignation.
I expected the media to be full of scandal.
She done her bit, time for Scotland to move on.
Watch this space … more to come
Note the unexpected resignation of Police Scotland Chief !
and there’s still more to come …
Murrells arrest is tip of the iceberg
£600k missing - ha! - wait until they get to the other stuff
Yes the investigation is still to come due to her moving elderly out of hospitals and into Nursing homes without being tested, this was the main source of infection and sadly many lost their life's.
This investigation is long over due"
Hopefully the scrutiny the SNP will fave will be exactly the sane level pf scrutiny that the Tories face for the exact same decisions |
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"Sturgeon and Swinney are next for the cop shop.
This investigation is widening and is not just about the SNP finances / 600k
Ferguson, Ferries, Gupta, covid funds I have no doubt are linked to current events "
Hopefully Jail if found guilty
they had the trust of some people in Scotland, many others saw through them from Day one
but they were still in the position of power over Scotland, so anyone of them found to be corrupt should be jailed. |
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Such is the cult like devotion to her that some are still peddling the myth that she was unaware of her husband and the dodgy accounting going on.
She is a busted flush and was only deemed competent by some very low level set bar.
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Wow!!!