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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton

I know there are plenty of folks on these forums who are sick of all the immigrants entering the UK. It is one of the reasons some of you voted for Brexit and why you are supporters of Suella and Priti before her.

I am sure you all support the idea that immigrants who break the law in this country should be deported.

More information about Zahawi’s financial affairs are expected to surface in coming weeks. While he has already been fined for his tax “carelessness” it is possible other reveals of an illegal nature will come to light.

So a question for you. If so should he be deported? If not then why not?

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

I thought that he was a British citizen?

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton


"I thought that he was a British citizen?"

So are many people who arrived as immigrants but lots of people have said they should be deported if they break the law.

Not only that but also British born people like Shamima Begum.

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By *astandFeistyCouple  over a year ago

Bournemouth


"I thought that he was a British citizen?

So are many people who arrived as immigrants but lots of people have said they should be deported if they break the law.

Not only that but also British born people like Shamima Begum."

No he shouldn't and neither should others who are granted citizenship.

Begum is British and should never had her citizenship removed in the first place.

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton


"I thought that he was a British citizen?

So are many people who arrived as immigrants but lots of people have said they should be deported if they break the law.

Not only that but also British born people like Shamima Begum.

No he shouldn't and neither should others who are granted citizenship.

Begum is British and should never had her citizenship removed in the first place."

I agree. Once a British Citizen then that is that. I am curious where others draw the line.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I thought that he was a British citizen?

So are many people who arrived as immigrants but lots of people have said they should be deported if they break the law.

Not only that but also British born people like Shamima Begum.

No he shouldn't and neither should others who are granted citizenship.

Begum is British and should never had her citizenship removed in the first place.

I agree. Once a British Citizen then that is that. I am curious where others draw the line."

I draw the line at the actions of Begum.

I know this is a very controversial subject but my line is firmly drawn in the sand. I wont change anybody's mind who thinks differently as I wont change mine.

I'm happy to agree to disagree

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton


"I thought that he was a British citizen?

So are many people who arrived as immigrants but lots of people have said they should be deported if they break the law.

Not only that but also British born people like Shamima Begum.

No he shouldn't and neither should others who are granted citizenship.

Begum is British and should never had her citizenship removed in the first place.

I agree. Once a British Citizen then that is that. I am curious where others draw the line.

I draw the line at the actions of Begum.

I know this is a very controversial subject but my line is firmly drawn in the sand. I wont change anybody's mind who thinks differently as I wont change mine.

I'm happy to agree to disagree "

In some ways I sympathise with this view. So would you remove citizenship from anyone who sides with our enemies? And if so where is that line drawn?

For example, I do not believe there is any evidence that the actions of Begum directly led to the harm/death of any British Citizen regardless of how distasteful her choices were. So where would we stand on the likes of Farage and his support of Putin?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My parents are Jamaican, but classed as British and arrived here by invitation from the government of the time.

The wind rush scandal showed me what this present government really think of people like my parents.

But they love a Russian apparently.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I really doubt the cops will look into Zahawi in the way they would with the rest of us if we lied & tried to dodge millions in tax. Sadly. The Met turned a blind eye to Partygate for as long as they could. And when they finally investigated, they seemed to do the minimum they thought they could get away with.

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together."

So if it turns out Zahawi broke the law his citizenship should be revoked and he deported from the UK?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't believe in boarders.

I believe in free movement of people.

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton


"I don't believe in boarders.

I believe in free movement of people."

An admirable belief but one that fails to accept that we live in a world divided into nation states.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't believe in boarders.

I believe in free movement of people.

An admirable belief but one that fails to accept that we live in a world divided into nation states."

Its that acceptance that traps others including myself

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I don't believe in boarders.

I believe in free movement of people.

An admirable belief but one that fails to accept that we live in a world divided into nation states.

Its that acceptance that traps others including myself"

I would be interested in knowing how society would develop and how social, medical support and the infrastructure would work, in a borderless world.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't believe in boarders.

I believe in free movement of people.

An admirable belief but one that fails to accept that we live in a world divided into nation states.

Its that acceptance that traps others including myself

I would be interested in knowing how society would develop and how social, medical support and the infrastructure would work, in a borderless world. "

It wouldn't too many different values and beliefs.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I don't believe in boarders.

I believe in free movement of people.

An admirable belief but one that fails to accept that we live in a world divided into nation states.

Its that acceptance that traps others including myself

I would be interested in knowing how society would develop and how social, medical support and the infrastructure would work, in a borderless world. It wouldn't too many different values and beliefs. "

I would imagine 10 mega hotspots around the world that everyone would flock to.

LA on steroids, what a lovely image

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together."

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime? "

If we implement that idea for 10 minutes, we could send Boris back

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't believe in boarders.

I believe in free movement of people.

An admirable belief but one that fails to accept that we live in a world divided into nation states.

Its that acceptance that traps others including myself

I would be interested in knowing how society would develop and how social, medical support and the infrastructure would work, in a borderless world. It wouldn't too many different values and beliefs.

I would imagine 10 mega hotspots around the world that everyone would flock to.

LA on steroids, what a lovely image "

lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

If we implement that idea for 10 minutes, we could send Boris back "

Hmmm why is the idea suddenly tempting me?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

If we implement that idea for 10 minutes, we could send Boris back "

Only if you take Harry back

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

If we implement that idea for 10 minutes, we could send Boris back Only if you take Harry back "

Happy to make that deal.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

If we implement that idea for 10 minutes, we could send Boris back Only if you take Harry back

Happy to make that deal."

lol I am sure NYC will welcome him with open arms.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

If we implement that idea for 10 minutes, we could send Boris back Only if you take Harry back

Happy to make that deal. lol I am sure NYC will welcome him with open arms. "

Fine by me as long as the lying shit is never here again.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes, lets all have open borders. Give supreme power to a tiny oligarch of people and allow them to control the entire planet as opposed to a nation. What could go wrong...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, lets all have open borders. Give supreme power to a tiny oligarch of people and allow them to control the entire planet as opposed to a nation. What could go wrong..."

You think the rich don't control the world now anyway?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, lets all have open borders. Give supreme power to a tiny oligarch of people and allow them to control the entire planet as opposed to a nation. What could go wrong...

You think the rich don't control the world now anyway? "

We are well aware that real power does not reset with the puppets that we elect, or the media that claims to report on 'truth'.

That said, it doesn't mean we its smart to centralise even more power of the whole world to the very strongest groups of powerful people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, lets all have open borders. Give supreme power to a tiny oligarch of people and allow them to control the entire planet as opposed to a nation. What could go wrong...

You think the rich don't control the world now anyway?

We are well aware that real power does not reset with the puppets that we elect, or the media that claims to report on 'truth'.

That said, it doesn't mean we its smart to centralise even more power of the whole world to the very strongest groups of powerful people."

I think the important thing when it comes to the powerful is scrutiny and law. When 1 of those things isn't properly applied, serious problems tend to happen.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the important thing when it comes to the powerful is scrutiny and law. When 1 of those things isn't properly applied, serious problems tend to happen."

Let's get those cogs working shall we?

Who do you think would be setting those laws, or choosing the people that create those laws....

Take your time now...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the important thing when it comes to the powerful is scrutiny and law. When 1 of those things isn't properly applied, serious problems tend to happen.

Let's get those cogs working shall we?

Who do you think would be setting those laws, or choosing the people that create those laws....

Take your time now..."

Ideally, us the people. And?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

(I know the attempted gotcha you seem to be heading towards. And you don't seem to yet realise I didn't say we should have fully open borders with the whole world anywhere. It's a nice fantasy that will likely never happen outside of sci fi.)

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"I know there are plenty of folks on these forums who are sick of all the immigrants entering the UK. It is one of the reasons some of you voted for Brexit and why you are supporters of Suella and Priti before her.

I am sure you all support the idea that immigrants who break the law in this country should be deported.

More information about Zahawi’s financial affairs are expected to surface in coming weeks. While he has already been fined for his tax “carelessness” it is possible other reveals of an illegal nature will come to light.

So a question for you. If so should he be deported? If not then why not?"

When you say immigrants that break the law are you referring to those that have been through the system, granted citizenship and then broke the law or immigrants who have not been granted citizenship and broke the law?

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings


"I thought that he was a British citizen?

So are many people who arrived as immigrants but lots of people have said they should be deported if they break the law.

Not only that but also British born people like Shamima Begum.

No he shouldn't and neither should others who are granted citizenship.

Begum is British and should never had her citizenship removed in the first place.

I agree. Once a British Citizen then that is that. I am curious where others draw the line.

I draw the line at the actions of Begum.

I know this is a very controversial subject but my line is firmly drawn in the sand. I wont change anybody's mind who thinks differently as I wont change mine.

I'm happy to agree to disagree "

No I think I'm with you.

Once a citizen you are a citizen if you leave the UK and become a threat to the UK you then risk that citizenship.

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton


"I know there are plenty of folks on these forums who are sick of all the immigrants entering the UK. It is one of the reasons some of you voted for Brexit and why you are supporters of Suella and Priti before her.

I am sure you all support the idea that immigrants who break the law in this country should be deported.

More information about Zahawi’s financial affairs are expected to surface in coming weeks. While he has already been fined for his tax “carelessness” it is possible other reveals of an illegal nature will come to light.

So a question for you. If so should he be deported? If not then why not?

When you say immigrants that break the law are you referring to those that have been through the system, granted citizenship and then broke the law or immigrants who have not been granted citizenship and broke the law?"

Both. All. I am interested to see how people make distinctions and where they draw the line. Do they see a difference between someone born here to someone who is not but is granted citizenship. Interested to know what crimes are considered serious enough to remove citizenship.

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

If we are talking illegal Immigrants awaiting for citizenship then yes deport.

If someone has legally and justly been given citizenship and broken the law then they should be treated as a all Criminals are treated.

Which is innocent until proven guilty then if guilty sentenced accordingly.

(Which if the criminal protection service has anything to do with a light slap on the wrists and blame the victim for the offence )

I digress

I Do think tho that some sort of probation period for citizenship should be in place say a year or 6months if the person in question commits a terrible crime or a terrorist act then revoked.

Much like a probation period for a job.

Just an idea.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why not deport ALL the illegals who've crossed the channel and the immigrants who have broken the law?

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"I know there are plenty of folks on these forums who are sick of all the immigrants entering the UK. It is one of the reasons some of you voted for Brexit and why you are supporters of Suella and Priti before her.

I am sure you all support the idea that immigrants who break the law in this country should be deported.

More information about Zahawi’s financial affairs are expected to surface in coming weeks. While he has already been fined for his tax “carelessness” it is possible other reveals of an illegal nature will come to light.

So a question for you. If so should he be deported? If not then why not?

When you say immigrants that break the law are you referring to those that have been through the system, granted citizenship and then broke the law or immigrants who have not been granted citizenship and broke the law?

Both. All. I am interested to see how people make distinctions and where they draw the line. Do they see a difference between someone born here to someone who is not but is granted citizenship. Interested to know what crimes are considered serious enough to remove citizenship. "

I would say it has to be within the law of the land at the time. So in most cases if a person has citizenship regardless of where they were born then deportation is not an option. For non citizens then deportation should be an option

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By *ust RachelTV/TS  over a year ago

Horsham

If we deport them, won't they just try to come back through other ways.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If we deport them, won't they just try to come back through other ways."

Well if we had a proper navy they would detect them and stop them.

What we have is a taxi service for criminals.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Boarders are the consequence of war.

Boarders entrap people.

Boarders ens'ave people.

Try leaving here and going to live in another country, just pack your bag and goto L.A. on a Wim because you want to, because you choose to.

But can you?

Please do not waste my time and yours by asking what if, how, why.

If you can't use your imagination to see, if you cannot consider a truly free world, then I am not worth your time.

When you see earth from the ISS can you see the boarders, no one has to imagine them because in reality, the boarder is in your mind.

Its called conditioning and not everyone buys into it.

Healthcare has no impact on boarders in my mind but im willing to listen to how no boarders would affect healthcare.

I'm Ken Brockman, and that was my two pence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Boarders are the consequence of war.

Boarders entrap people.

Boarders ens'ave people.

Try leaving here and going to live in another country, just pack your bag and goto L.A. on a Wim because you want to, because you choose to.

But can you?

Please do not waste my time and yours by asking what if, how, why.

If you can't use your imagination to see, if you cannot consider a truly free world, then I am not worth your time.

When you see earth from the ISS can you see the boarders, no one has to imagine them because in reality, the boarder is in your mind.

Its called conditioning and not everyone buys into it.

Healthcare has no impact on boarders in my mind but im willing to listen to how no boarders would affect healthcare.

I'm Ken Brockman, and that was my two pence."

The I guess we send 80 million republicans to the UK. Get citizenship and effect the vote. If borders don't matter. That would be Epic.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Boarders are the consequence of war.

Boarders entrap people.

Boarders ens'ave people.

Try leaving here and going to live in another country, just pack your bag and goto L.A. on a Wim because you want to, because you choose to.

But can you?

Please do not waste my time and yours by asking what if, how, why.

If you can't use your imagination to see, if you cannot consider a truly free world, then I am not worth your time.

When you see earth from the ISS can you see the boarders, no one has to imagine them because in reality, the boarder is in your mind.

Its called conditioning and not everyone buys into it.

Healthcare has no impact on boarders in my mind but im willing to listen to how no boarders would affect healthcare.

I'm Ken Brockman, and that was my two pence. The I guess we send 80 million republicans to the UK. Get citizenship and effect the vote. If borders don't matter. That would be Epic."

Immigration does matter

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Boarders are the consequence of war.

Boarders entrap people.

Boarders ens'ave people.

Try leaving here and going to live in another country, just pack your bag and goto L.A. on a Wim because you want to, because you choose to.

But can you?

Please do not waste my time and yours by asking what if, how, why.

If you can't use your imagination to see, if you cannot consider a truly free world, then I am not worth your time.

When you see earth from the ISS can you see the boarders, no one has to imagine them because in reality, the boarder is in your mind.

Its called conditioning and not everyone buys into it.

Healthcare has no impact on boarders in my mind but im willing to listen to how no boarders would affect healthcare.

I'm Ken Brockman, and that was my two pence."

No it's called a nation with a distinct culture,traditions,habits ,language.

Borders maintain national integrity.

The only ones shouting for abolition of borders are the ones who want to move to another's country from their own failed state and take advantage of another country where they have no linguistic or cultural connection so they can benefit.

But what do we benefit by having people from third world rat holes trapped in the 8th century move freely into out land? Nothing.

Do you have a door in your house? Yes.

Why?

To stop uninvited visitors and keep you safe.

We are not all the same. People and cultures do differ and clash.

What the f*k is a free world? What does that mean? The rights of other from failed states to walk into ours? Countries in which they and their ancestors played no part in building but they can walk in and benefit?

There is no unity without a common identity and national affiliation.

A borderless landmass of strangers is straight out of the Marxist handbook.

People overwhelmingly want secure borders.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I bet a certain chap would have loved this thread lol

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By *mp411Man  over a year ago

chester


"My parents are Jamaican, but classed as British and arrived here by invitation from the government of the time.

The wind rush scandal showed me what this present government really think of people like my parents.

But they love a Russian apparently."

Firstly the British government at the time never invited anyone.

The Empire Windrush sold tickets so they didn’t have an empty ship on the return journey (a chance to make money)https://youtu.be/0zxXFJ4raEc

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By *mp411Man  over a year ago

chester


"Boarders are the consequence of war.

Boarders entrap people.

Boarders ens'ave people.

Try leaving here and going to live in another country, just pack your bag and goto L.A. on a Wim because you want to, because you choose to.

But can you?

Please do not waste my time and yours by asking what if, how, why.

If you can't use your imagination to see, if you cannot consider a truly free world, then I am not worth your time.

When you see earth from the ISS can you see the boarders, no one has to imagine them because in reality, the boarder is in your mind.

Its called conditioning and not everyone buys into it.

Healthcare has no impact on boarders in my mind but im willing to listen to how no boarders would affect healthcare.

I'm Ken Brockman, and that was my two pence.

No it's called a nation with a distinct culture,traditions,habits ,language.

Borders maintain national integrity.

The only ones shouting for abolition of borders are the ones who want to move to another's country from their own failed state and take advantage of another country where they have no linguistic or cultural connection so they can benefit.

But what do we benefit by having people from third world rat holes trapped in the 8th century move freely into out land? Nothing.

Do you have a door in your house? Yes.

Why?

To stop uninvited visitors and keep you safe.

We are not all the same. People and cultures do differ and clash.

What the f*k is a free world? What does that mean? The rights of other from failed states to walk into ours? Countries in which they and their ancestors played no part in building but they can walk in and benefit?

There is no unity without a common identity and national affiliation.

A borderless landmass of strangers is straight out of the Marxist handbook.

People overwhelmingly want secure borders.

"

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By *mp411Man  over a year ago

chester


"Why not deport ALL the illegals who've crossed the channel and the immigrants who have broken the law?

"

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings


"Boarders are the consequence of war.

Boarders entrap people.

Boarders ens'ave people.

Try leaving here and going to live in another country, just pack your bag and goto L.A. on a Wim because you want to, because you choose to.

But can you?

Please do not waste my time and yours by asking what if, how, why.

If you can't use your imagination to see, if you cannot consider a truly free world, then I am not worth your time.

When you see earth from the ISS can you see the boarders, no one has to imagine them because in reality, the boarder is in your mind.

Its called conditioning and not everyone buys into it.

Healthcare has no impact on boarders in my mind but im willing to listen to how no boarders would affect healthcare.

I'm Ken Brockman, and that was my two pence."

So a world without borders would need to be equal!

Health

Cost

Etc

But the world is not equal across borders not all culture are the same not all laws are the same a free world would mean someone from US can come to UK with an assault rifle no problem.

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By *mp411Man  over a year ago

chester


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime? "

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes "

Any crime at all? Even - to take a random example - failing to wear a seatbelt?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes "

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes "

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Boarders are the consequence of war.

Boarders entrap people.

Boarders ens'ave people.

Try leaving here and going to live in another country, just pack your bag and goto L.A. on a Wim because you want to, because you choose to.

But can you?

Please do not waste my time and yours by asking what if, how, why.

If you can't use your imagination to see, if you cannot consider a truly free world, then I am not worth your time.

When you see earth from the ISS can you see the boarders, no one has to imagine them because in reality, the boarder is in your mind.

Its called conditioning and not everyone buys into it.

Healthcare has no impact on boarders in my mind but im willing to listen to how no boarders would affect healthcare.

I'm Ken Brockman, and that was my two pence.

So a world without borders would need to be equal!

Health

Cost

Etc

But the world is not equal across borders not all culture are the same not all laws are the same a free world would mean someone from US can come to UK with an assault rifle no problem."

Exactly. I do love my weapons but it's frowned upon in the UK. But if it was open borders it would be a free for all. Head to that nation in mass get citizenship effect the vote. Change laws. Elect people who agree . This sounds like such a good time.

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By *mp411Man  over a year ago

chester


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new."

Back to their genetic country of origin

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I bet a certain chap would have loved this thread lol"

What "chap" would that be then?

You don't need to be coy, just spit it out. And do be clear if you're making a comparison

Have a backbone, don't mince your words.

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By *mp411Man  over a year ago

chester


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Any crime at all? Even - to take a random example - failing to wear a seatbelt?"

Any crime

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin "

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes "

Boris back to the USA

Zahawi back to Iraq

Not sure how that would work . Btw, you do realise that a British Citizen born abroad is just as British as you and me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Any crime at all? Even - to take a random example - failing to wear a seatbelt?

Any crime "

Seems a tad harsh + costly to punish so severely for a minor crime. No?

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings


"If we deport them, won't they just try to come back through other ways.

Well if we had a proper navy they would detect them and stop them.

What we have is a taxi service for criminals. "

How would the navy stop them?

UK forces navy or other canot stop a boat in French water.

Once that boat is in British Water its a British problem!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My parents are Jamaican, but classed as British and arrived here by invitation from the government of the time.

The wind rush scandal showed me what this present government really think of people like my parents.

But they love a Russian apparently.

Firstly the British government at the time never invited anyone.

The Empire Windrush sold tickets so they didn’t have an empty ship on the return journey (a chance to make money)https://youtu.be/0zxXFJ4raEc "

Interesting , this all sounds very familiar

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?"

lol you wouldn't let 5 million of my kind in your country if it effects voter turnout. I identify as a genetic American. So to think immigration does not matter is silly.

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By *mp411Man  over a year ago

chester


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?"

The country in thier dna with dna sequencing it is quite easy to determine where an individual grew up down to the region

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person? lol you wouldn't let 5 million of my kind in your country if it effects voter turnout. I identify as a genetic American. So to think immigration does not matter is silly."

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt a genetic analysis would say you're American.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?

The country in thier dna with dna sequencing it is quite easy to determine where an individual grew up down to the region "

PMSL, where is your ‘DNA region ‘

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By *mp411Man  over a year ago

chester


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Any crime at all? Even - to take a random example - failing to wear a seatbelt?

Any crime

Seems a tad harsh + costly to punish so severely for a minor crime. No?"

Not really imo

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person? lol you wouldn't let 5 million of my kind in your country if it effects voter turnout. I identify as a genetic American. So to think immigration does not matter is silly."

You’re a direct descendant of the Native American people?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person? lol you wouldn't let 5 million of my kind in your country if it effects voter turnout. I identify as a genetic American. So to think immigration does not matter is silly.

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt a genetic analysis would say you're American."

I am part Shawnee you were saying ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person? lol you wouldn't let 5 million of my kind in your country if it effects voter turnout. I identify as a genetic American. So to think immigration does not matter is silly.

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt a genetic analysis would say you're American. I am part Shawnee you were saying ?"

Which part?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?

The country in thier dna with dna sequencing it is quite easy to determine where an individual grew up down to the region

PMSL, where is your ‘DNA region ‘ "

I'm starting to suspect that chap is not a trained scientist...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person? lol you wouldn't let 5 million of my kind in your country if it effects voter turnout. I identify as a genetic American. So to think immigration does not matter is silly.

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt a genetic analysis would say you're American. I am part Shawnee you were saying ?

Which part? "

The elbows.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?

The country in thier dna with dna sequencing it is quite easy to determine where an individual grew up down to the region

PMSL, where is your ‘DNA region ‘

I'm starting to suspect that chap is not a trained scientist..."

Indeed, soon he will be stating that Rishi Sunak isn’t British , all sounds very familiar

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By *mp411Man  over a year ago

chester


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?

The country in thier dna with dna sequencing it is quite easy to determine where an individual grew up down to the region

PMSL, where is your ‘DNA region ‘ "

The region I grew up in Cheshire specific isotopes in my hair,teeth and dna from soil,water are present from that area

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?

The country in thier dna with dna sequencing it is quite easy to determine where an individual grew up down to the region "

So are you also saying anyone over sea how has UK in there DNA can come hear with no problem as it must be there right buy there DNA.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime? My great great grandmother married a Irish man . A coal miner from the molly Maguires. You sound kinda Racist. Because I have more Irish heritage. Like I said I identify as a American. We are mutts.

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person? lol you wouldn't let 5 million of my kind in your country if it effects voter turnout. I identify as a genetic American. So to think immigration does not matter is silly.

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt a genetic analysis would say you're American. I am part Shawnee you were saying ?

Which part?

The elbows. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?

The country in thier dna with dna sequencing it is quite easy to determine where an individual grew up down to the region

PMSL, where is your ‘DNA region ‘

The region I grew up in Cheshire specific isotopes in my hair,teeth and dna from soil,water are present from that area "

All your DNA comes from Cheshire? Wow, do you live in a tiny village where nobody is allowed to enter or leave

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?

The country in thier dna with dna sequencing it is quite easy to determine where an individual grew up down to the region

PMSL, where is your ‘DNA region ‘

The region I grew up in Cheshire specific isotopes in my hair,teeth and dna from soil,water are present from that area "

I am convinced beyond any reasonable doubt. Somebody give the chap a Nobel prize.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?

The country in thier dna with dna sequencing it is quite easy to determine where an individual grew up down to the region

PMSL, where is your ‘DNA region ‘

The region I grew up in Cheshire specific isotopes in my hair,teeth and dna from soil,water are present from that area

All your DNA comes from Cheshire? Wow, do you live in a tiny village where nobody is allowed to enter or leave "

Lots & lots of inbreeding. Lots.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person?

The country in thier dna with dna sequencing it is quite easy to determine where an individual grew up down to the region

PMSL, where is your ‘DNA region ‘

The region I grew up in Cheshire specific isotopes in my hair,teeth and dna from soil,water are present from that area

All your DNA comes from Cheshire? Wow, do you live in a tiny village where nobody is allowed to enter or leave

Lots & lots of inbreeding. Lots. "

It is a local place for local people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime? My great great grandmother married a Irish man . A coal miner from the molly Maguires. You sound kinda Racist. Because I have more Irish heritage. Like I said I identify as a American. We are mutts.

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person? lol you wouldn't let 5 million of my kind in your country if it effects voter turnout. I identify as a genetic American. So to think immigration does not matter is silly.

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt a genetic analysis would say you're American. I am part Shawnee you were saying ?

Which part?

The elbows. "

lol wow who the racist now. If you must know my great great grandfather was a molly Maguire. That married my grandmother who was Shawnee. I got pale my pale skin from my grandfather. If that ok. Not all of us claim purebreds. So I am a Mutt a typical American.My elbows are you serious?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime? My great great grandmother married a Irish man . A coal miner from the molly Maguires. You sound kinda Racist. Because I have more Irish heritage. Like I said I identify as a American. We are mutts.

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person? lol you wouldn't let 5 million of my kind in your country if it effects voter turnout. I identify as a genetic American. So to think immigration does not matter is silly.

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt a genetic analysis would say you're American. I am part Shawnee you were saying ?

Which part?

The elbows. "

Tricky to untangle that as you messed up the quote thing.

Identify as whatever the hell you want. Feel free. But a genetic alalysis won't say you're American. It'll say you're a bit this, a bit that. Like all of us.

The idea, proposed by some1 above, that people should be deported based on their genetics seems unworkable + nasty. It feels like the sort of policy the Nazis would have loved.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A joke about elbows is racist? Pretty desparate smear against me there. Well done

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime? My great great grandmother married a Irish man . A coal miner from the molly Maguires. You sound kinda Racist. Because I have more Irish heritage. Like I said I identify as a American. We are mutts.

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person? lol you wouldn't let 5 million of my kind in your country if it effects voter turnout. I identify as a genetic American. So to think immigration does not matter is silly.

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt a genetic analysis would say you're American. I am part Shawnee you were saying ?

Which part?

The elbows. lol wow who the racist now. If you must know my great great grandfather was a molly Maguire. That married my grandmother who was Shawnee. I got pale my pale skin from my grandfather. If that ok. Not all of us claim purebreds. So I am a Mutt a typical American.My elbows are you serious?

"

I could move to America, be granted American citizenship, and just be as ‘American ‘ as you are

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime? My great great grandmother married a Irish man . A coal miner from the molly Maguires. You sound kinda Racist. Because I have more Irish heritage. Like I said I identify as a American. We are mutts.

Yes

Would save on cost of prisons where should we send then? Australia now that would be new.

Back to their genetic country of origin

Erm what is a genetic country of origin for a person? lol you wouldn't let 5 million of my kind in your country if it effects voter turnout. I identify as a genetic American. So to think immigration does not matter is silly.

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt a genetic analysis would say you're American. I am part Shawnee you were saying ?

Which part?

The elbows. lol wow who the racist now. If you must know my great great grandfather was a molly Maguire. That married my grandmother who was Shawnee. I got pale my pale skin from my grandfather. If that ok. Not all of us claim purebreds. So I am a Mutt a typical American.My elbows are you serious?

I could move to America, be granted American citizenship, and just be as ‘American ‘ as you are "

Just be careful you don't make an elbow joke. They might try to smear you as a racist.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A joke about elbows is racist? Pretty desparate smear against me there. Well done "
Your tone was. Why mention elbows in the first place? You said it not me. What did you mean then I clearly pale with American Indian heritage.My elbows....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A joke about elbows is racist? Pretty desparate smear against me there. Well done Your tone was. Why mention elbows in the first place? You said it not me. What did you mean then I clearly pale with American Indian heritage.My elbows...."

Keep on smearing me for a silly joke if you like. While ignoring the guy who was pushing for people to be deported according to their genetics...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A joke about elbows is racist? Pretty desparate smear against me there. Well done Your tone was. Why mention elbows in the first place? You said it not me. What did you mean then I clearly pale with American Indian heritage.My elbows...."
Ok let's denounce my smear campaign. What did you mean then ? They dirty the awkward? I open to your suggestions.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A joke about elbows is racist? Pretty desparate smear against me there. Well done Your tone was. Why mention elbows in the first place? You said it not me. What did you mean then I clearly pale with American Indian heritage.My elbows.... Ok let's denounce my smear campaign. What did you mean then ? They dirty the awkward? I open to your suggestions."
explain make me understand your statement.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A joke about elbows is racist? Pretty desparate smear against me there. Well done Your tone was. Why mention elbows in the first place? You said it not me. What did you mean then I clearly pale with American Indian heritage.My elbows.... Ok let's denounce my smear campaign. What did you mean then ? They dirty the awkward? I open to your suggestions."

Seriously? OK...

You were making the ludicrous assertion you were genetically American. You're not. No more than I'm genetically English. We are, all of us, a mix. A bit from here, a bit from there, a bit from all over. You get that?

My joke - the elbows - was aimed at your assertion you were all 1 thing. Because none of us are all 1 thing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A joke about elbows is racist? Pretty desparate smear against me there. Well done Your tone was. Why mention elbows in the first place? You said it not me. What did you mean then I clearly pale with American Indian heritage.My elbows.... Ok let's denounce my smear campaign. What did you mean then ? They dirty the awkward? I open to your suggestions.

Seriously? OK...

You were making the ludicrous assertion you were genetically American. You're not. No more than I'm genetically English. We are, all of us, a mix. A bit from here, a bit from there, a bit from all over. You get that?

My joke - the elbows - was aimed at your assertion you were all 1 thing. Because none of us are all 1 thing.

"

But you used my skin color to denounce my heritage. Seems I wasn't brown enough to make your assumptions. Not everyone is the same...Elbows .. really... Yes before you accuse me of ranting... You need to look into the mirror first and wonder why i rant.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A joke about elbows is racist? Pretty desparate smear against me there. Well done Your tone was. Why mention elbows in the first place? You said it not me. What did you mean then I clearly pale with American Indian heritage.My elbows.... Ok let's denounce my smear campaign. What did you mean then ? They dirty the awkward? I open to your suggestions.

Seriously? OK...

You were making the ludicrous assertion you were genetically American. You're not. No more than I'm genetically English. We are, all of us, a mix. A bit from here, a bit from there, a bit from all over. You get that?

My joke - the elbows - was aimed at your assertion you were all 1 thing. Because none of us are all 1 thing.

But you used my skin color to denounce my heritage. Seems I wasn't brown enough to make your assumptions. Not everyone is the same...Elbows .. really... Yes before you accuse me of ranting... You need to look into the mirror first and wonder why i rant.

"

Nope I didn't mention skin colour at all. I also did not denounce your heritage. You're the 1 bringing all that up. Feels like you're desperately trying to make this into something it isn't.

I explained the joke since you didn't get it. I was joking because you made a claim that aint true. We're all a mix of things.

While accusing me of being racist, you're still ignoring the guy who literally said we should deport people based on their genetics. If you cared about racism - as opposed to trying to smear me - you'd be all over that. Says it all really.

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By *L RogueMan  over a year ago

London


"My parents are Jamaican, but classed as British and arrived here by invitation from the government of the time.

The wind rush scandal showed me what this present government really think of people like my parents.

But they love a Russian apparently."

This! The line tends to be drawn and redrawn depending on ideology and influence!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A joke about elbows is racist? Pretty desparate smear against me there. Well done Your tone was. Why mention elbows in the first place? You said it not me. What did you mean then I clearly pale with American Indian heritage.My elbows.... Ok let's denounce my smear campaign. What did you mean then ? They dirty the awkward? I open to your suggestions.

Seriously? OK...

You were making the ludicrous assertion you were genetically American. You're not. No more than I'm genetically English. We are, all of us, a mix. A bit from here, a bit from there, a bit from all over. You get that?

My joke - the elbows - was aimed at your assertion you were all 1 thing. Because none of us are all 1 thing.

But you used my skin color to denounce my heritage. Seems I wasn't brown enough to make your assumptions. Not everyone is the same...Elbows .. really... Yes before you accuse me of ranting... You need to look into the mirror first and wonder why i rant.

Nope I didn't mention skin colour at all. I also did not denounce your heritage. You're the 1 bringing all that up. Feels like you're desperately trying to make this into something it isn't.

I explained the joke since you didn't get it. I was joking because you made a claim that aint true. We're all a mix of things.

While accusing me of being racist, you're still ignoring the guy who literally said we should deport people based on their genetics. If you cared about racism - as opposed to trying to smear me - you'd be all over that. Says it all really."

I am me you still haven't answered the elbow comment . You danced around it . deflect much ? Just say it. I pale Af to not have that lineage. It's simple direct and to the point. Let me help ... I do have pale elbows. Don't scream you are understanding when you clearly not it takes away from your value. I am proud once again being American no matter my DNA as you assumed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A joke about elbows is racist? Pretty desparate smear against me there. Well done Your tone was. Why mention elbows in the first place? You said it not me. What did you mean then I clearly pale with American Indian heritage.My elbows.... Ok let's denounce my smear campaign. What did you mean then ? They dirty the awkward? I open to your suggestions.

Seriously? OK...

You were making the ludicrous assertion you were genetically American. You're not. No more than I'm genetically English. We are, all of us, a mix. A bit from here, a bit from there, a bit from all over. You get that?

My joke - the elbows - was aimed at your assertion you were all 1 thing. Because none of us are all 1 thing.

But you used my skin color to denounce my heritage. Seems I wasn't brown enough to make your assumptions. Not everyone is the same...Elbows .. really... Yes before you accuse me of ranting... You need to look into the mirror first and wonder why i rant.

Nope I didn't mention skin colour at all. I also did not denounce your heritage. You're the 1 bringing all that up. Feels like you're desperately trying to make this into something it isn't.

I explained the joke since you didn't get it. I was joking because you made a claim that aint true. We're all a mix of things.

While accusing me of being racist, you're still ignoring the guy who literally said we should deport people based on their genetics. If you cared about racism - as opposed to trying to smear me - you'd be all over that. Says it all really. I am me you still haven't answered the elbow comment . You danced around it . deflect much ? Just say it. I pale Af to not have that lineage. It's simple direct and to the point. Let me help ... I do have pale elbows. Don't scream you are understanding when you clearly not it takes away from your value. I am proud once again being American no matter my DNA as you assumed "

I explained the joke. You either misunderstood it or used it as a chance to try and smear me.

And be proud to be American all you want. Also be proud of you heritage all you want. I never said anything against either of those things. I never would.

As usual, we've reached the point where you're just not listening.

Be well x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A joke about elbows is racist? Pretty desparate smear against me there. Well done Your tone was. Why mention elbows in the first place? You said it not me. What did you mean then I clearly pale with American Indian heritage.My elbows.... Ok let's denounce my smear campaign. What did you mean then ? They dirty the awkward? I open to your suggestions.

Seriously? OK...

You were making the ludicrous assertion you were genetically American. You're not. No more than I'm genetically English. We are, all of us, a mix. A bit from here, a bit from there, a bit from all over. You get that?

My joke - the elbows - was aimed at your assertion you were all 1 thing. Because none of us are all 1 thing.

But you used my skin color to denounce my heritage. Seems I wasn't brown enough to make your assumptions. Not everyone is the same...Elbows .. really... Yes before you accuse me of ranting... You need to look into the mirror first and wonder why i rant.

Nope I didn't mention skin colour at all. I also did not denounce your heritage. You're the 1 bringing all that up. Feels like you're desperately trying to make this into something it isn't.

I explained the joke since you didn't get it. I was joking because you made a claim that aint true. We're all a mix of things.

While accusing me of being racist, you're still ignoring the guy who literally said we should deport people based on their genetics. If you cared about racism - as opposed to trying to smear me - you'd be all over that. Says it all really. I am me you still haven't answered the elbow comment . You danced around it . deflect much ? Just say it. I pale Af to not have that lineage. It's simple direct and to the point. Let me help ... I do have pale elbows. Don't scream you are understanding when you clearly not it takes away from your value. I am proud once again being American no matter my DNA as you assumed

I explained the joke. You either misunderstood it or used it as a chance to try and smear me.

And be proud to be American all you want. Also be proud of you heritage all you want. I never said anything against either of those things. I never would.

As usual, we've reached the point where you're just not listening.

Be well x"

and we reached the point that you can't answer as usual. Just disparaging someone is usually your game. To suit your needs.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"My parents are Jamaican, but classed as British and arrived here by invitation from the government of the time.

The wind rush scandal showed me what this present government really think of people like my parents.

But they love a Russian apparently.

Firstly the British government at the time never invited anyone.

The Empire Windrush sold tickets so they didn’t have an empty ship on the return journey (a chance to make money)https://youtu.be/0zxXFJ4raEc "

It doesn't matter if they were "invited" or not.

They were British subjects and had the right to live and work in the UK.

Many of them were also ex-servicemen.

Of course the Empire Windrush sold tickets. It was a passenger ship.

Saying that "they weren't invited" is a genuine nonsense. You can still speak to the people who heard the radio programmes and saw the job adverts encouraging them to come to the "mother country".

It's a bit like holocaust denial in that one, small, respect.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

Interesting, so anyone who wasn’t born in Great Britain but is a British Citizen should be deported for any crime?

Yes "

Does British Citizenship have any meaning then?

Would your proposal make everyone equal under the law or would some people be punished differently for the same crime?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London

If you're a British Citizen, then everyone should be treated in the same way for the same crime.

If you are an immigrant and the terms of your visa are to not commit any criminal acts (as opposed to civil offences) the deportation is not an unreasonable consequence for serious offences.

I would not deport family members as that would be punishing the innocent. I don't like the idea of punishing the innocent, but others may disagree.

Begum is our criminal. Our responsibility.

Zahawi is also our problem.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Boarders are the consequence of war.

Boarders entrap people.

Boarders ens'ave people.

Try leaving here and going to live in another country, just pack your bag and goto L.A. on a Wim because you want to, because you choose to.

But can you?

Please do not waste my time and yours by asking what if, how, why.

If you can't use your imagination to see, if you cannot consider a truly free world, then I am not worth your time.

When you see earth from the ISS can you see the boarders, no one has to imagine them because in reality, the boarder is in your mind.

Its called conditioning and not everyone buys into it.

Healthcare has no impact on boarders in my mind but im willing to listen to how no boarders would affect healthcare.

I'm Ken Brockman, and that was my two pence. The I guess we send 80 million republicans to the UK. Get citizenship and effect the vote. If borders don't matter. That would be Epic. Immigration does matter "

I read and reread my post but I cannot see where I mentioned immigration.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Boarders are the consequence of war.

Boarders entrap people.

Boarders ens'ave people.

Try leaving here and going to live in another country, just pack your bag and goto L.A. on a Wim because you want to, because you choose to.

But can you?

Please do not waste my time and yours by asking what if, how, why.

If you can't use your imagination to see, if you cannot consider a truly free world, then I am not worth your time.

When you see earth from the ISS can you see the boarders, no one has to imagine them because in reality, the boarder is in your mind.

Its called conditioning and not everyone buys into it.

Healthcare has no impact on boarders in my mind but im willing to listen to how no boarders would affect healthcare.

I'm Ken Brockman, and that was my two pence.

No it's called a nation with a distinct culture,traditions,habits ,language.

Borders maintain national integrity.

The only ones shouting for abolition of borders are the ones who want to move to another's country from their own failed state and take advantage of another country where they have no linguistic or cultural connection so they can benefit.

But what do we benefit by having people from third world rat holes trapped in the 8th century move freely into out land? Nothing.

Do you have a door in your house? Yes.

Why?

To stop uninvited visitors and keep you safe.

We are not all the same. People and cultures do differ and clash.

What the f*k is a free world? What does that mean? The rights of other from failed states to walk into ours? Countries in which they and their ancestors played no part in building but they can walk in and benefit?

There is no unity without a common identity and national affiliation.

A borderless landmass of strangers is straight out of the Marxist handbook.

People overwhelmingly want secure borders.

"

I feel safe, I feel very safe.

But there are times when I come into contact, with the views you hold from others were I feel unsafe.

I now know that this is called transference, my fear comes from your fear, in this instance fear of the unknown.

Or fear of loss of identity due to people crossing boarders.

I am safe, I am very safe.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My parents are Jamaican, but classed as British and arrived here by invitation from the government of the time.

The wind rush scandal showed me what this present government really think of people like my parents.

But they love a Russian apparently.

Firstly the British government at the time never invited anyone.

The Empire Windrush sold tickets so they didn’t have an empty ship on the return journey (a chance to make money)https://youtu.be/0zxXFJ4raEc "

I see the confusion, my dad came after windrush, so when I re read my post it seems that he came on the windrush.

He didn't he came here '59 by invitation due to his skills he was a carpenter at the time, and he flew in, yes he brought his ticket and my sister keeps his papers which include his invitation letter.

So please do not call me a fibber.

as a footnote to secure his children he paid for citizenship in the '80's.

This is also in answer to _asyuk reply to my post.

I am a tad peeved at the suggestion that he wasn't invited, makes me feel that your stereotyping me and looked for evidence to discredit me in the words of Chris rock, after the will smith slap, WOW.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Boarders are the consequence of war.

Boarders entrap people.

Boarders ens'ave people.

Try leaving here and going to live in another country, just pack your bag and goto L.A. on a Wim because you want to, because you choose to.

But can you?

Please do not waste my time and yours by asking what if, how, why.

If you can't use your imagination to see, if you cannot consider a truly free world, then I am not worth your time.

When you see earth from the ISS can you see the boarders, no one has to imagine them because in reality, the boarder is in your mind.

Its called conditioning and not everyone buys into it.

Healthcare has no impact on boarders in my mind but im willing to listen to how no boarders would affect healthcare.

I'm Ken Brockman, and that was my two pence.

So a world without borders would need to be equal!

Health

Cost

Etc

But the world is not equal across borders not all culture are the same not all laws are the same a free world would mean someone from US can come to UK with an assault rifle no problem."

Are you aware of just how much armaments are on our streets illegally today?

How we live today is a direct consequence of boarders, we are made to believe that we will be safe if we have boarders.

If we are so safe due to boarders, even though Johnson was fibbing I hear about Putins threat that it would only take a minute to have a missile shot at us, I assume that boarders cannot protect me/us.

I won't mention the 45 minutes Blair scandal.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Boarders are the consequence of war.

Boarders entrap people.

Boarders ens'ave people.

Try leaving here and going to live in another country, just pack your bag and goto L.A. on a Wim because you want to, because you choose to.

But can you?

Please do not waste my time and yours by asking what if, how, why.

If you can't use your imagination to see, if you cannot consider a truly free world, then I am not worth your time.

When you see earth from the ISS can you see the boarders, no one has to imagine them because in reality, the boarder is in your mind.

Its called conditioning and not everyone buys into it.

Healthcare has no impact on boarders in my mind but im willing to listen to how no boarders would affect healthcare.

I'm Ken Brockman, and that was my two pence.

So a world without borders would need to be equal!

Health

Cost

Etc

But the world is not equal across borders not all culture are the same not all laws are the same a free world would mean someone from US can come to UK with an assault rifle no problem. Exactly. I do love my weapons but it's frowned upon in the UK. But if it was open borders it would be a free for all. Head to that nation in mass get citizenship effect the vote. Change laws. Elect people who agree . This sounds like such a good time."

Again this voting concept has a bit to do with boarders, as its about controlling the population within those boarders.

And giving the illusion of control if we within these boarders are given the chance to choose our jailer/leader.

But as I love a good shoot them up id jump at the chance to fire an smg on the firing range again.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My parents are Jamaican, but classed as British and arrived here by invitation from the government of the time.

The wind rush scandal showed me what this present government really think of people like my parents.

But they love a Russian apparently.

Firstly the British government at the time never invited anyone.

The Empire Windrush sold tickets so they didn’t have an empty ship on the return journey (a chance to make money)https://youtu.be/0zxXFJ4raEc

It doesn't matter if they were "invited" or not.

They were British subjects and had the right to live and work in the UK.

Many of them were also ex-servicemen.

Of course the Empire Windrush sold tickets. It was a passenger ship.

Saying that "they weren't invited" is a genuine nonsense. You can still speak to the people who heard the radio programmes and saw the job adverts encouraging them to come to the "mother country".

It's a bit like holocaust denial in that one, small, respect."

I miss read your post EasyUK, thought you were also inferring I was telling fibs, sorry for that.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan  over a year ago

Gilfach


"The region I grew up in Cheshire specific isotopes in my hair,teeth and dna from soil,water are present from that area "

Oh dear. Somebody doesn't understand the science he's using.

It is possible to detect hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, and carbon isotopes in your DNA, but those isotopes are pretty much evenly spread over the earth. In fact, that's how carbon dating works, by detecting carbon14 atoms in the thing you're trying to date. Carbon14 is so evenly spread throughout the planet that we can assume that all organic material took in the same amount of carbon14 as it grew, so the amount that's still left in it, tells us how long ago it died.

There are no regions that have their own special collection of isotopes that only the locals carry. There aren't even any continents with measurable isotope differences (at least, not the sort of isotopes that would be in DNA).

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton

FFS every bloody thread gets hijacked by nonsense and people posting utter tripe. Every time

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton


"If you're a British Citizen, then everyone should be treated in the same way for the same crime.

If you are an immigrant and the terms of your visa are to not commit any criminal acts (as opposed to civil offences) the deportation is not an unreasonable consequence for serious offences.

I would not deport family members as that would be punishing the innocent. I don't like the idea of punishing the innocent, but others may disagree.

Begum is our criminal. Our responsibility.

Zahawi is also our problem."

At last a sensible reply that stays on topic!

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By *astandFeistyCouple  over a year ago

Bournemouth


"If you're a British Citizen, then everyone should be treated in the same way for the same crime.

If you are an immigrant and the terms of your visa are to not commit any criminal acts (as opposed to civil offences) the deportation is not an unreasonable consequence for serious offences.

I would not deport family members as that would be punishing the innocent. I don't like the idea of punishing the innocent, but others may disagree.

Begum is our criminal. Our responsibility.

Zahawi is also our problem."

It's not often we agree, but yet, here we are

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Define breaking the law though?

Parking tickets? Cannabis possession? Assault? Murder?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"My parents are Jamaican, but classed as British and arrived here by invitation from the government of the time.

The wind rush scandal showed me what this present government really think of people like my parents.

But they love a Russian apparently.

Firstly the British government at the time never invited anyone.

The Empire Windrush sold tickets so they didn’t have an empty ship on the return journey (a chance to make money)https://youtu.be/0zxXFJ4raEc

It doesn't matter if they were "invited" or not.

They were British subjects and had the right to live and work in the UK.

Many of them were also ex-servicemen.

Of course the Empire Windrush sold tickets. It was a passenger ship.

Saying that "they weren't invited" is a genuine nonsense. You can still speak to the people who heard the radio programmes and saw the job adverts encouraging them to come to the "mother country".

It's a bit like holocaust denial in that one, small, respect.

I miss read your post EasyUK, thought you were also inferring I was telling fibs, sorry for that."

I had quite the opposite intent so I was confused by your first response, but now all okay

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Define breaking the law though?

Parking tickets? Cannabis possession? Assault? Murder?"

I did ask this sort of question above. 1 chap said you should get deported for even failing to wear a seatbelt...

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By *oversfunCouple  over a year ago

ayrshire

can we not just stone him

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes

Deportation of non citizens who arrive and then commit crimes is not over the top in my opinion. I don't agree with deporting the criminals relatives though. The criminal actions of one person should not determine their relatives futures.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings


"Deportation of non citizens who arrive and then commit crimes is not over the top in my opinion. I don't agree with deporting the criminals relatives though. The criminal actions of one person should not determine their relatives futures."

I think if you look back some one said if if the relatives want to go they could not wood be forced..

But please core me as am multi tasking and not female so shit at it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Deportation of non citizens who arrive and then commit crimes is not over the top in my opinion. I don't agree with deporting the criminals relatives though. The criminal actions of one person should not determine their relatives futures.

I think if you look back some one said if if the relatives want to go they could not wood be forced..

But please core me as am multi tasking and not female so shit at it "

But I don't wanna core you. I don't even like coring apples, never mind a human.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"Deportation of non citizens who arrive and then commit crimes is not over the top in my opinion. I don't agree with deporting the criminals relatives though. The criminal actions of one person should not determine their relatives futures.

I think if you look back some one said if if the relatives want to go they could not wood be forced..

But please core me as am multi tasking and not female so shit at it "

The intent was clearly hostile. There's no other reason to write it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

So if it turns out Zahawi broke the law his citizenship should be revoked and he deported from the UK? "

definitely

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes I believe they should all be citizen or not break the law back you go including family if they want to be together.

So if it turns out Zahawi broke the law his citizenship should be revoked and he deported from the UK? definitely "

And Boris ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My parents are Jamaican, but classed as British and arrived here by invitation from the government of the time.

The wind rush scandal showed me what this present government really think of people like my parents.

But they love a Russian apparently.

Firstly the British government at the time never invited anyone.

The Empire Windrush sold tickets so they didn’t have an empty ship on the return journey (a chance to make money)https://youtu.be/0zxXFJ4raEc

It doesn't matter if they were "invited" or not.

They were British subjects and had the right to live and work in the UK.

Many of them were also ex-servicemen.

Of course the Empire Windrush sold tickets. It was a passenger ship.

Saying that "they weren't invited" is a genuine nonsense. You can still speak to the people who heard the radio programmes and saw the job adverts encouraging them to come to the "mother country".

It's a bit like holocaust denial in that one, small, respect.

I miss read your post EasyUK, thought you were also inferring I was telling fibs, sorry for that.

I had quite the opposite intent so I was confused by your first response, but now all okay "

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