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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Wow!
I’ve never seen the Daily Fail write so many articles on one thing in such as concerted effort to whip up anti Harry and Meghan feeling.
It’s pure hatred like I’ve never seen before.
Is it’s the right wings way of burying bad news? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Yes a few articles here and there, but this has been a figurative article blitz! And the comments, it’s like some massive hate campaign by the DM.
Why are the DM so angry for? Its like they want to ignore how shit the tories are doing for some strange reason :-/ |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes a few articles here and there, but this has been a figurative article blitz! And the comments, it’s like some massive hate campaign by the DM.
Why are the DM so angry for? Its like they want to ignore how shit the tories are doing for some strange reason :-/"
Because its a shit stirring, hate mongering newspaper. You are not its target audience.
It would be good if it could just be ignored. But unfortunately it influences a lot of people into becoming intolerant. |
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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago
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I have been looking at my newsfeed on phone. It is from what I can see . Every newspaper , TV channels etc having articles about this. Some yes pointing out inacurricies. Some being on their side even or against in same publication or news type channel. |
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By *eachcplCouple
over a year ago
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Those two are full of crap. She is only happy if she is the centre of attention and he just whines. Think their latest ego boosting series on netflix is failing on them. Although the first episode had a lot of viewers, the numbers who have watched the second and third episodes are a long way down... No sympathy of either of them. They both need to get a life |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"Wow!
I’ve never seen the Daily Fail write so many articles on one thing in such as concerted effort to whip up anti Harry and Meghan feeling.
It’s pure hatred like I’ve never seen before.
Is it’s the right wings way of burying bad news?"
Have they been busy telling porkies |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Please can we deport them back 
No Chance we were hoping we could send a few more of the royals over there, we are fed up with paying for their expensive lifestyles "
lol nooo you are stuck with Charles  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Those two are full of crap. She is only happy if she is the centre of attention and he just whines. Think their latest ego boosting series on netflix is failing on them. Although the first episode had a lot of viewers, the numbers who have watched the second and third episodes are a long way down... No sympathy of either of them. They both need to get a life"
What about the papers? Do they also need to get a life also? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What is funny is you need a monarchy to justify a existence. Why is that ? Just curious. It's is a expensive justification."
no offense it's the pomp and circumstance that is mind boggling. Just curt on the perception.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"What is funny is you need a monarchy to justify a existence. Why is that ? Just curious. It's is an expensive justification. no offense it's the pomp and circumstance that is mind boggling. Just curt on the perception. "
I am sure America has its traditions, like the 4th of July, or thanksgiving. There are usually parades they are expensive also.
It’s culture again, everyone has it.
It’s mind boggling on our side when we think that you give thanks to native Americans who’s land you stole, but hey ho. |
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"What is funny is you need a monarchy to justify a existence. Why is that ? Just curious. It's is a expensive justification."
We don't need a monarchy to justify our existence. England and later the United kingdom has a history of one monarch going back over 1000 years (Athelstan I think was the name of the first ). Before that it was made up of individual kingdoms each with their own monarch, a tribal system if you like. It's traditional, historic but we would continue to exist without it. |
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"What is funny is you need a monarchy to justify a existence. Why is that ? Just curious. It's is a expensive justification. no offense it's the pomp and circumstance that is mind boggling. Just curt on the perception. "
As above its pomp and circumstance that has grown over many centuries, it gives a sense of place and national identify which can be very grounding and valuable |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"What is funny is you need a monarchy to justify a existence. Why is that ? Just curious. It's is a expensive justification. no offense it's the pomp and circumstance that is mind boggling. Just curt on the perception.
As above its pomp and circumstance that has grown over many centuries, it gives a sense of place and national identify which can be very grounding and valuable"
Damn right! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What is funny is you need a monarchy to justify a existence. Why is that ? Just curious. It's is an expensive justification. no offense it's the pomp and circumstance that is mind boggling. Just curt on the perception.
I am sure America has its traditions, like the 4th of July, or thanksgiving. There are usually parades they are expensive also.
It’s culture again, everyone has it.
It’s mind boggling on our side when we think that you give thanks to native Americans who’s land you stole, but hey ho."
yes but we vote our idiot out. Both sides. Not forever sustainable idiocy. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"What is funny is you need a monarchy to justify a existence. Why is that ? Just curious. It's is an expensive justification. no offense it's the pomp and circumstance that is mind boggling. Just curt on the perception.
I am sure America has its traditions, like the 4th of July, or thanksgiving. There are usually parades they are expensive also.
It’s culture again, everyone has it.
It’s mind boggling on our side when we think that you give thanks to native Americans who’s land you stole, but hey ho. yes but we vote our idiot out. Both sides. Not forever sustainable idiocy. "
I wonder how many native Americans voted for the USA? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What is funny is you need a monarchy to justify a existence. Why is that ? Just curious. It's is an expensive justification. no offense it's the pomp and circumstance that is mind boggling. Just curt on the perception.
I am sure America has its traditions, like the 4th of July, or thanksgiving. There are usually parades they are expensive also.
It’s culture again, everyone has it.
It’s mind boggling on our side when we think that you give thanks to native Americans who’s land you stole, but hey ho. yes but we vote our idiot out. Both sides. Not forever sustainable idiocy. "
Umm lol you forced us to choose now.. you created us how does that make you feel ? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"What is funny is you need a monarchy to justify a existence. Why is that ? Just curious. It's is an expensive justification. no offense it's the pomp and circumstance that is mind boggling. Just curt on the perception.
I am sure America has its traditions, like the 4th of July, or thanksgiving. There are usually parades they are expensive also.
It’s culture again, everyone has it.
It’s mind boggling on our side when we think that you give thanks to native Americans whose land you stole, but hey ho. yes but we vote our idiot out. Both sides. Not forever sustainable idiocy. Umm lol you forced us to choose now.. you created us how does that make you feel ? "
The last 200 years is on you, not us. Maybe it would have been different if you had remained a colony perhaps? Who knows? |
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance. "
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers |
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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago
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From replies. In UK yes we have a head of state . Which is King Charles . Yet he only signs off the government of the time documents . Yet really is there to be ‘ symbolic ‘ . He has no power . If say America . The President had more powers . Instance King Charles cannot authorise say a nuclear attack . Yet an American President can .
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers"
monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not? "
Like a president, who pays for the upkeep of the White House, and its security and its private planes, a drain on your resources also.
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not? "
The jury's out on whether they bring in more than they cost. I think they are mostly value for money.
Are you anti monarchy or anti the current royal family?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not?
Like a president, who pays for the upkeep of the White House, and its security and its private planes, a drain on your resources also.
But guess you overlooked that also "
Yet certain presidents donated their salaries to the people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not?
Like a president, who pays for the upkeep of the White House, and its security and its private planes, a drain on your resources also.
But guess you overlooked that also Yet certain presidents donated their salaries to the people."
unlike years of reigning. |
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not?
Like a president, who pays for the upkeep of the White House, and its security and its private planes, a drain on your resources also.
But guess you overlooked that also Yet certain presidents donated their salaries to the people. unlike years of reigning. "
You really are going to have to spell It out for me. What's your point exactly? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not?
Like a president, who pays for the upkeep of the White House, and its security and its private planes, a drain on your resources also.
But guess you overlooked that also Yet certain presidents donated their salaries to the people. unlike years of reigning.
You really are going to have to spell It out for me. What's your point exactly? "
why a monarchy as a figurehead? It's still a dictatorship figurehead.its a drain on the people is it not ? |
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not?
Like a president, who pays for the upkeep of the White House, and its security and its private planes, a drain on your resources also.
But guess you overlooked that also Yet certain presidents donated their salaries to the people. unlike years of reigning.
You really are going to have to spell It out for me. What's your point exactly? why a monarchy as a figurehead? It's still a dictatorship figurehead.its a drain on the people is it not ? "
We have a monarch as a figurehead because that is how the British system works. We don't live in a dictatorship and king Charles isn't a dictator, we live in a democracy
In what way is it a drain on the people? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not?
Like a president, who pays for the upkeep of the White House, and its security and its private planes, a drain on your resources also.
But guess you overlooked that also Yet certain presidents donated their salaries to the people. unlike years of reigning.
You really are going to have to spell It out for me. What's your point exactly? why a monarchy as a figurehead? It's still a dictatorship figurehead.its a drain on the people is it not ?
We have a monarch as a figurehead because that is how the British system works. We don't live in a dictatorship and king Charles isn't a dictator, we live in a democracy
In what way is it a drain on the people?"
Yet you paying for their existing for their lifetime opulence and all. |
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not?
Like a president, who pays for the upkeep of the White House, and its security and its private planes, a drain on your resources also.
But guess you overlooked that also Yet certain presidents donated their salaries to the people. unlike years of reigning.
You really are going to have to spell It out for me. What's your point exactly? why a monarchy as a figurehead? It's still a dictatorship figurehead.its a drain on the people is it not ?
We have a monarch as a figurehead because that is how the British system works. We don't live in a dictatorship and king Charles isn't a dictator, we live in a democracy
In what way is it a drain on the people? Yet you paying for their existing for their lifetime opulence and all. "
The sovereign grant pays for some but they also have private means. It's unclear how much they bring in via tourism and if that's more than they receive. Whatever the truth of that it still doesn't mean Britain is a dictator ship |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not?
Like a president, who pays for the upkeep of the White House, and its security and its private planes, a drain on your resources also.
But guess you overlooked that also Yet certain presidents donated their salaries to the people. unlike years of reigning.
You really are going to have to spell It out for me. What's your point exactly? why a monarchy as a figurehead? It's still a dictatorship figurehead.its a drain on the people is it not ?
We have a monarch as a figurehead because that is how the British system works. We don't live in a dictatorship and king Charles isn't a dictator, we live in a democracy
In what way is it a drain on the people? Yet you paying for their existing for their lifetime opulence and all.
The sovereign grant pays for some but they also have private means. It's unclear how much they bring in via tourism and if that's more than they receive. Whatever the truth of that it still doesn't mean Britain is a dictator ship"
Yet you stated the revenue for the opulence. Reliability on a state of affairs. |
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If it was king Charles or a PM that was called for a a emergency world meeting. You think the PM would matter ? ...It would be the king . The PM is a advisor. |
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not?
Like a president, who pays for the upkeep of the White House, and its security and its private planes, a drain on your resources also.
But guess you overlooked that also Yet certain presidents donated their salaries to the people. unlike years of reigning.
You really are going to have to spell It out for me. What's your point exactly? why a monarchy as a figurehead? It's still a dictatorship figurehead.its a drain on the people is it not ?
We have a monarch as a figurehead because that is how the British system works. We don't live in a dictatorship and king Charles isn't a dictator, we live in a democracy
In what way is it a drain on the people? Yet you paying for their existing for their lifetime opulence and all.
The sovereign grant pays for some but they also have private means. It's unclear how much they bring in via tourism and if that's more than they receive. Whatever the truth of that it still doesn't mean Britain is a dictator ship Yet you stated the revenue for the opulence. Reliability on a state of affairs."
I'm sorry I don't know what this means |
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"If it was king Charles or a PM that was called for a a emergency world meeting. You think the PM would matter ? ...It would be the king . The PM is a advisor."
I think you misunderstand the way our system bof government works and the role of the monarchy within it |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"It is strange you all scream independence... Yet still rely on a a monarchy appearance.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Who's screaming independence? We have a constitutional monarchy, this means the monarch is the head of state but has limited power. Basically they're extremely privileged ambassadors and charity workers monarchy.... The word that resounds. It still is a drain on financial resources is it not?
Like a president, who pays for the upkeep of the White House, and its security and its private planes, a drain on your resources also.
But guess you overlooked that also Yet certain presidents donated their salaries to the people. unlike years of reigning.
You really are going to have to spell It out for me. What's your point exactly? why a monarchy as a figurehead? It's still a dictatorship figurehead.its a drain on the people is it not ?
We have a monarch as a figurehead because that is how the British system works. We don't live in a dictatorship and king Charles isn't a dictator, we live in a democracy
In what way is it a drain on the people? Yet you paying for their existing for their lifetime opulence and all. "
That's not how it works. The royals do get a sovereign Grant but that money comes from the monarch in the first place via the crown estate. The amount paid to the government by the monarch is roughly 4 times the amount they receive back in the sovereign grant. |
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"Wow!
I’ve never seen the Daily Fail write so many articles on one thing in such as concerted effort to whip up anti Harry and Meghan feeling.
It’s pure hatred like I’ve never seen before.
Is it’s the right wings way of burying bad news?"
Like it or not the Daily Mail simply reports the facts and the various different columnists will have different opinions on issues . They usually publish both sides of an argument and readers can form their own judgement. As far as I am aware there is no law that stipulates that anyone must accept the opinion of the Daily Mail.
An indication of the Daily Mails success is that they have sales of at least one million copies in a declining market. They must be doing most things ( if not all ) correctly in order to maintain their circulation.
If people agree with your opinion their sales would plummet |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wow!
I’ve never seen the Daily Fail write so many articles on one thing in such as concerted effort to whip up anti Harry and Meghan feeling.
It’s pure hatred like I’ve never seen before.
Is it’s the right wings way of burying bad news? Like it or not the Daily Mail simply reports the facts and the various different columnists will have different opinions on issues . They usually publish both sides of an argument and readers can form their own judgement. As far as I am aware there is no law that stipulates that anyone must accept the opinion of the Daily Mail.
An indication of the Daily Mails success is that they have sales of at least one million copies in a declining market. They must be doing most things ( if not all ) correctly in order to maintain their circulation.
If people agree with your opinion their sales would plummet "
Welcome back. Shame you couldn't join us through the last few months. |
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I thought we’d never here about them again (wishful thinking) once they’d moved to America obviously they wanted privacy etc etc etc so decide to Netflix documentary suppose the £80 million had nothing to do with it I wonder if ginge has found his knackers yet or are they still in a pickle jar in the kitchen? |
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"Wow!
I’ve never seen the Daily Fail write so many articles on one thing in such as concerted effort to whip up anti Harry and Meghan feeling.
It’s pure hatred like I’ve never seen before.
Is it’s the right wings way of burying bad news? Like it or not the Daily Mail simply reports the facts and the various different columnists will have different opinions on issues . They usually publish both sides of an argument and readers can form their own judgement. As far as I am aware there is no law that stipulates that anyone must accept the opinion of the Daily Mail.
An indication of the Daily Mails success is that they have sales of at least one million copies in a declining market. They must be doing most things ( if not all ) correctly in order to maintain their circulation.
If people agree with your opinion their sales would plummet "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Wow!
I’ve never seen the Daily Fail write so many articles on one thing in such as concerted effort to whip up anti Harry and Meghan feeling.
It’s pure hatred like I’ve never seen before.
Is it’s the right wings way of burying bad news? Like it or not the Daily Mail simply reports the facts and the various different columnists will have different opinions on issues . They usually publish both sides of an argument and readers can form their own judgement. As far as I am aware there is no law that stipulates that anyone must accept the opinion of the Daily Mail.
An indication of the Daily Mails success is that they have sales of at least one million copies in a declining market. They must be doing most things ( if not all ) correctly in order to maintain their circulation.
If people agree with your opinion their sales would plummet "
It’s true, the amount of sales is important for them, I’ve just never seen so many articles about one topic in one day. It was like they wanted to shove their opinion hard down its readers throats.
Whereas other papers didn’t really care much about it.
I think the DM protests too much, which in my view means they are looking more guilty about their behaviour, and the article blizzard was their way of justifying their behaviour.
Of course the DM is going to convince its readership its right, it needs the support of its readers to make the conversation about Harry and Meghan being hypocrites, or about Meghan being an aggressive person, or Meghan emasculating Harry.
But what has come out of this, is that it shows the UK media has a real unhealthy obsession with the Royal family in general.
Part fawning spectator, part psychopathic nanny.
It adores them on one hand, but one false step by them and it goes all murderous axe killer rage to destroy them.
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