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By *I Two OP   Couple  over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

Banned in the UK but it seems were going to buy more from the US ..

Good deal to reduce Russian dependance ?

Bad deal as it's probably hellish expensive ?

Immoral ?

The UK has agreed to double imports of US gas over the next year as it tries to stabilise soaring energy prices.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the plan would "bring down prices for British consumers and help end Europe's dependence on Russian energy".

Russia has cut off the majority of its gas supplies to Europe over the past year after its invasion of Ukraine.

The UK does not import gas from Russia directly, but has been hit by rising wholesale prices on the Continent.

Under the agreement, the UK aims to double imports of liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the US to 9-10 billion cubic metres over the next year.

That is equivalent to about an eighth of the gas the UK uses every year.

The two countries will also boost collaboration over the development of new nuclear and green energy technologies.

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By *uddy laneMan  over a year ago

dudley


"Banned in the UK but it seems were going to buy more from the US ..

Good deal to reduce Russian dependance ?

Bad deal as it's probably hellish expensive ?

Immoral ?

The UK has agreed to double imports of US gas over the next year as it tries to stabilise soaring energy prices.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the plan would "bring down prices for British consumers and help end Europe's dependence on Russian energy".

Russia has cut off the majority of its gas supplies to Europe over the past year after its invasion of Ukraine.

The UK does not import gas from Russia directly, but has been hit by rising wholesale prices on the Continent.

Under the agreement, the UK aims to double imports of liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the US to 9-10 billion cubic metres over the next year.

That is equivalent to about an eighth of the gas the UK uses every year.

The two countries will also boost collaboration over the development of new nuclear and green energy technologies."

Fracked gas sounds bad that's why it was rebranded in 2019 as

Molecules of US freedom.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I also viewd a news story on C4 regarding the new commissioning of coal mine.

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"I also viewd a news story on C4 regarding the new commissioning of coal mine."

This is on the BBC to. first coal mine for 30 years apparently. They say it is to supply to the steel makers instead of importing it

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By *I Two OP   Couple  over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"I also viewd a news story on C4 regarding the new commissioning of coal mine.

This is on the BBC to. first coal mine for 30 years apparently. They say it is to supply to the steel makers instead of importing it"

And so it's actually "green" as it saves transport and also provides jobs. No doubt fracking will come too .. eventually.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"I also viewd a news story on C4 regarding the new commissioning of coal mine.

This is on the BBC to. first coal mine for 30 years apparently. They say it is to supply to the steel makers instead of importing it

And so it's actually "green" as it saves transport and also provides jobs. No doubt fracking will come too .. eventually."

The coal isn't suitable for the British Steel industrial, It's going to be exported.

So not in anyway "green".

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan  over a year ago

Gilfach


"The coal isn't suitable for the British Steel industrial, It's going to be exported."

Where do you get that idea?

The coal to be mined is coking coal, the sort required for use in blast furnaces. British Steel has blast furnaces in scunthorpe and Port Talbot, both locations needing a constant supply of coking coal.

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"The coal isn't suitable for the British Steel industrial, It's going to be exported.

Where do you get that idea?

The coal to be mined is coking coal, the sort required for use in blast furnaces. British Steel has blast furnaces in scunthorpe and Port Talbot, both locations needing a constant supply of coking coal."

That is the principle behind this mine. Currently both steelworks get coking coal from Russia, America and Australia, so that would save costs and decrease the carbon there.

Both steelworks are making noises about converting to greener production, that would not need coking coal, and that allows a fair proportion to be exported.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"The coal isn't suitable for the British Steel industrial, It's going to be exported.

Where do you get that idea?

The coal to be mined is coking coal, the sort required for use in blast furnaces. British Steel has blast furnaces in scunthorpe and Port Talbot, both locations needing a constant supply of coking coal."

British steel producers said this coal had too much sulphur for them to use. I don't know anything more other than what they said.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Banned in the UK but it seems were going to buy more from the US ..

Good deal to reduce Russian dependance ?

Bad deal as it's probably hellish expensive ?

Immoral ?

The UK has agreed to double imports of US gas over the next year as it tries to stabilise soaring energy prices.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the plan would "bring down prices for British consumers and help end Europe's dependence on Russian energy".

Russia has cut off the majority of its gas supplies to Europe over the past year after its invasion of Ukraine.

The UK does not import gas from Russia directly, but has been hit by rising wholesale prices on the Continent.

Under the agreement, the UK aims to double imports of liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the US to 9-10 billion cubic metres over the next year.

That is equivalent to about an eighth of the gas the UK uses every year.

The two countries will also boost collaboration over the development of new nuclear and green energy technologies."

Russian dependence?

What we actually used from Russia was marginal to our usage,and certainly not an 8th of our total usage

Has anyone actually wondered why the Ukraine situation is blamed for the energy crisis when we have had two gulf wars that have had zero effect?

The reason why there is a crisis has more to do with the fact that 30% was wiped of the value of the petrol dollar the moment Russia went to gold standard..

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan  over a year ago

Gilfach


"The coal isn't suitable for the British Steel industrial, It's going to be exported."


"Where do you get that idea?

The coal to be mined is coking coal, the sort required for use in blast furnaces. British Steel has blast furnaces in scunthorpe and Port Talbot, both locations needing a constant supply of coking coal."


"British steel producers said this coal had too much sulphur for them to use. I don't know anything more other than what they said."

Thanks for that. Now that I know what to look for, I see the same thing.

It looks to me that the companies don't want to pay for the expensive sulphur capture equipment, and would rather just keep buying pre-treated from Russia. If things change, and Russian isn't available any more, they might change their minds.

It'll be interesting to see where the newly mined coal ends up being sold to.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan  over a year ago

Gilfach

I see that the forum software has silently removed the word for de-bituminised coal from my post. It looks like it can still be understood, even with the word missing.

For those that don't know, "c o k e" is a clean burning fuel used in steel making. It's produced by taking coal and removing all the tarry substances from it to leave behind just the carbon structure. "Coking coal" is coal that is suitable to be turned into "c o k e".

Why on earth do we have these silly forum rules?

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By *I Two OP   Couple  over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"I see that the forum software has silently removed the word for de-bituminised coal from my post. It looks like it can still be understood, even with the word missing.

For those that don't know, "c o k e" is a clean burning fuel used in steel making. It's produced by taking coal and removing all the tarry substances from it to leave behind just the carbon structure. "Coking coal" is coal that is suitable to be turned into "c o k e".

Why on earth do we have these silly forum rules?"

Probably because it's also as the abbreviation for a class a drug

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan  over a year ago

Gilfach


"I see that the forum software has silently removed the word for de-bituminised coal from my post. It looks like it can still be understood, even with the word missing.

For those that don't know, "c o k e" is a clean burning fuel used in steel making. It's produced by taking coal and removing all the tarry substances from it to leave behind just the carbon structure. "Coking coal" is coal that is suitable to be turned into "c o k e".

Why on earth do we have these silly forum rules?"


"Probably because it's also as the abbreviation for a class a drug"

I realise that's the reason, but why just block it? Surely a better way would be to flag each use up to an admin, so they can check it and block people if necessary. It's especially silly given that the alternative words aren't banned, and seem to be used to openly discuss drug usage, in people's profiles and status updates.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why do we need to import gas when we have the North Sea? Is there not as much fuel there as were lead to believe or is it being sold off to other folk around the globe?

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By *enny PR9TV/TS  over a year ago

Southport


"Why do we need to import gas when we have the North Sea? Is there not as much fuel there as were lead to believe or is it being sold off to other folk around the globe?"

If you find out don't forget to tell Sid.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do we need to import gas when we have the North Sea? Is there not as much fuel there as were lead to believe or is it being sold off to other folk around the globe?"

Britain is sitting on its reserves..

There is a gas field that stretches from the Tyne to the humber and beyond which Taylor-woodrow did the exploration for international late 70s early 80's.

It was said that once it is pumped it would make Middlesbrough ( who at the time were the nearest terminal) make Aberdeen look like a village,that's how big the field is..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

# in the late 70s..

Hate predicted text..

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