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"Get sacked or resigns… Give it a couple of days…… " A week ? Tbh, Sunak might have actually played a very clever move here (unlikely though) , promise Braverman the job, he gets her and the right wing support but he knows she will have to resign  | |||
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"Get sacked or resigns… Give it a couple of days…… A week ? Tbh, Sunak might have actually played a very clever move here (unlikely though) , promise Braverman the job, he gets her and the right wing support but he knows she will have to resign "I was thinking something like this… appoint her knowing she is going to have to resign.. then give the job to penny mourdant! People keep saying it was a mistake… the mistake this time was that it basically ended up in an email chain, but the actual initial act itself was deliberate! And she has previous to this to the point her nickname is leaky sue… If I as a civil servant broke GDPR rules… I’d be sacked! | |||
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"Get sacked or resigns… Give it a couple of days…… A week ? Tbh, Sunak might have actually played a very clever move here (unlikely though) , promise Braverman the job, he gets her and the right wing support but he knows she will have to resign
I was thinking something like this… appoint her knowing she is going to have to resign.. then give the job to penny mourdant!
People keep saying it was a mistake… the mistake this time was that it basically ended up in an email chain, but the actual initial act itself was deliberate!
And she has previous to this to the point her nickname is leaky sue…
If I as a civil servant broke GDPR rules… I’d be sacked! "Yep, if she does survive in the short term she will mess up at some point in the future, she is incompetent | |||
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"She'll be the top two in the league of shortest serving Home Secretaries lol" Hopefully | |||
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"Get sacked or resigns… Give it a couple of days…… A week ? Tbh, Sunak might have actually played a very clever move here (unlikely though) , promise Braverman the job, he gets her and the right wing support but he knows she will have to resign
I was thinking something like this… appoint her knowing she is going to have to resign.. then give the job to penny mourdant!
People keep saying it was a mistake… the mistake this time was that it basically ended up in an email chain, but the actual initial act itself was deliberate!
And she has previous to this to the point her nickname is leaky sue…
If I as a civil servant broke GDPR rules… I’d be sacked!
Yep, if she does survive in the short term she will mess up at some point in the future, she is incompetent "Thinly concealed racism and misogyny may eventually play a part, but how sad would that be? | |||
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"Thinly concealed racism and misogyny may eventually play a part, but how sad would that be? " Not really… if sacking Braverman is the one decision during the Liz truss administration she actually got right…. I don’t know who that makes look worse! Really… taking the side of leaky sue…. I should have known! | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all "Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic? | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all
Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic? "It started years ago against Sue Ellen but ramped up as soon as she entered the race to be Tory leader. The vile comments against BAME politicians is poisonous and all too often comes from the Left who pose under the equality for all banner but do little to progress it, unlike the Tories. Don't forget it was Labour MP Rupa Huq who was suspended by the party after she described Kwasi Kwarteng as “superficially” Black. Absolutely disgraceful. | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all
Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic?
It started years ago against Sue Ellen but ramped up as soon as she entered the race to be Tory leader.
The vile comments against BAME politicians is poisonous and all too often comes from the Left who pose under the equality for all banner but do little to progress it, unlike the Tories.
Don't forget it was Labour MP Rupa Huq who was suspended by the party after she described Kwasi Kwarteng as “superficially” Black. Absolutely disgraceful. "Thanks for trying to deflect the question…… Let’s try asking it again….. what part of her “breaking the ministerial code” is either sexist, racist or misogynistic? | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all
Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic?
It started years ago against Sue Ellen but ramped up as soon as she entered the race to be Tory leader.
The vile comments against BAME politicians is poisonous and all too often comes from the Left who pose under the equality for all banner but do little to progress it, unlike the Tories.
Don't forget it was Labour MP Rupa Huq who was suspended by the party after she described Kwasi Kwarteng as “superficially” Black. Absolutely disgraceful.
Thanks for trying to deflect the question……
Let’s try asking it again….. what part of her “breaking the ministerial code” is either sexist, racist or misogynistic? "Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?  | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all
Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic?
It started years ago against Sue Ellen but ramped up as soon as she entered the race to be Tory leader.
The vile comments against BAME politicians is poisonous and all too often comes from the Left who pose under the equality for all banner but do little to progress it, unlike the Tories.
Don't forget it was Labour MP Rupa Huq who was suspended by the party after she described Kwasi Kwarteng as “superficially” Black. Absolutely disgraceful.
Thanks for trying to deflect the question……
Let’s try asking it again….. what part of her “breaking the ministerial code” is either sexist, racist or misogynistic? "Stop picking on her, the right wing snowflakes are getting upset, it just isn’t fair | |||
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" If I as a civil servant broke GDPR rules… I’d be sacked! " As they said in the Paterson debacle - they just want to be treated like anyone else. (I suspect they don't know what that means) | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all
Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic?
It started years ago against Sue Ellen but ramped up as soon as she entered the race to be Tory leader.
The vile comments against BAME politicians is poisonous and all too often comes from the Left who pose under the equality for all banner but do little to progress it, unlike the Tories.
Don't forget it was Labour MP Rupa Huq who was suspended by the party after she described Kwasi Kwarteng as “superficially” Black. Absolutely disgraceful.
Thanks for trying to deflect the question……
Let’s try asking it again….. what part of her “breaking the ministerial code” is either sexist, racist or misogynistic?
Stop picking on her, the right wing snowflakes are getting upset, it just isn’t fair "You must admit some of the social media bias against her has been intolerable, well before the email issue. Criticising a female MP for her religious beliefs. Very classy. | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all
Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic?
It started years ago against Sue Ellen but ramped up as soon as she entered the race to be Tory leader.
The vile comments against BAME politicians is poisonous and all too often comes from the Left who pose under the equality for all banner but do little to progress it, unlike the Tories.
Don't forget it was Labour MP Rupa Huq who was suspended by the party after she described Kwasi Kwarteng as “superficially” Black. Absolutely disgraceful.
Thanks for trying to deflect the question……
Let’s try asking it again….. what part of her “breaking the ministerial code” is either sexist, racist or misogynistic?
Stop picking on her, the right wing snowflakes are getting upset, it just isn’t fair
You must admit some of the social media bias against her has been intolerable, well before the email issue.
Criticising a female MP for her religious beliefs.
Very classy.
"Are you offended by it? Sounds like left luvvy virtue signalling ? | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all
Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic?
It started years ago against Sue Ellen but ramped up as soon as she entered the race to be Tory leader.
The vile comments against BAME politicians is poisonous and all too often comes from the Left who pose under the equality for all banner but do little to progress it, unlike the Tories.
Don't forget it was Labour MP Rupa Huq who was suspended by the party after she described Kwasi Kwarteng as “superficially” Black. Absolutely disgraceful.
Thanks for trying to deflect the question……
Let’s try asking it again….. what part of her “breaking the ministerial code” is either sexist, racist or misogynistic?
Stop picking on her, the right wing snowflakes are getting upset, it just isn’t fair " | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony." Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all
Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic?
It started years ago against Sue Ellen but ramped up as soon as she entered the race to be Tory leader.
The vile comments against BAME politicians is poisonous and all too often comes from the Left who pose under the equality for all banner but do little to progress it, unlike the Tories.
Don't forget it was Labour MP Rupa Huq who was suspended by the party after she described Kwasi Kwarteng as “superficially” Black. Absolutely disgraceful.
Thanks for trying to deflect the question……
Let’s try asking it again….. what part of her “breaking the ministerial code” is either sexist, racist or misogynistic?
Stop picking on her, the right wing snowflakes are getting upset, it just isn’t fair
You must admit some of the social media bias against her has been intolerable, well before the email issue.
Criticising a female MP for her religious beliefs.
Very classy.
Are you offended by it? Sounds like left luvvy virtue signalling ? "Perish the thought | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all
Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic?
It started years ago against Sue Ellen but ramped up as soon as she entered the race to be Tory leader.
The vile comments against BAME politicians is poisonous and all too often comes from the Left who pose under the equality for all banner but do little to progress it, unlike the Tories.
Don't forget it was Labour MP Rupa Huq who was suspended by the party after she described Kwasi Kwarteng as “superficially” Black. Absolutely disgraceful.
Thanks for trying to deflect the question……
Let’s try asking it again….. what part of her “breaking the ministerial code” is either sexist, racist or misogynistic?
Stop picking on her, the right wing snowflakes are getting upset, it just isn’t fair
You must admit some of the social media bias against her has been intolerable, well before the email issue.
Criticising a female MP for her religious beliefs.
Very classy.
Are you offended by it? Sounds like left luvvy virtue signalling ?
Perish the thought "Then why are you whining about it? It’s only words, freedom of speech, blah blah blah  | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away " Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught "Do you care about homeless veterans? | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all
Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic?
It started years ago against Sue Ellen but ramped up as soon as she entered the race to be Tory leader.
The vile comments against BAME politicians is poisonous and all too often comes from the Left who pose under the equality for all banner but do little to progress it, unlike the Tories.
Don't forget it was Labour MP Rupa Huq who was suspended by the party after she described Kwasi Kwarteng as “superficially” Black. Absolutely disgraceful.
Thanks for trying to deflect the question……
Let’s try asking it again….. what part of her “breaking the ministerial code” is either sexist, racist or misogynistic?
Stop picking on her, the right wing snowflakes are getting upset, it just isn’t fair
You must admit some of the social media bias against her has been intolerable, well before the email issue.
Criticising a female MP for her religious beliefs.
Very classy.
Are you offended by it? Sounds like left luvvy virtue signalling ?
Perish the thought
Then why are you whining about it? It’s only words, freedom of speech, blah blah blah "Do you believe in the freedom to speak in a racist manner? Or do you support it being a criminal offence? What do you think of 'superficially black'? | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent? "I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code… You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny….. I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks! | |||
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"Not at all. I take the side of anti-racism and equality for all
Okay so what part of her “breaking the ministerial code “ is either racist, or misogynistic?
It started years ago against Sue Ellen but ramped up as soon as she entered the race to be Tory leader.
The vile comments against BAME politicians is poisonous and all too often comes from the Left who pose under the equality for all banner but do little to progress it, unlike the Tories.
Don't forget it was Labour MP Rupa Huq who was suspended by the party after she described Kwasi Kwarteng as “superficially” Black. Absolutely disgraceful.
Thanks for trying to deflect the question……
Let’s try asking it again….. what part of her “breaking the ministerial code” is either sexist, racist or misogynistic?
Stop picking on her, the right wing snowflakes are getting upset, it just isn’t fair
You must admit some of the social media bias against her has been intolerable, well before the email issue.
Criticising a female MP for her religious beliefs.
Very classy.
Are you offended by it? Sounds like left luvvy virtue signalling ?
Perish the thought
Then why are you whining about it? It’s only words, freedom of speech, blah blah blah
Do you believe in the freedom to speak in a racist manner? Or do you support it being a criminal offence? What do you think of 'superficially black'?
"Whaaah, are you offended by it or not? Or do you only care when it is directed at the tories?? | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans? "Why are you asking? | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking? "Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed? | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
"Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged. Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too. They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics. | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed? "None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars! Yes, of course I care. | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics. "That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny? | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care. "Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ? | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ? "You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's "No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny? "Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies "So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour? | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem "You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much "I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits ) | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies
So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour? "I'm alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Call that what you want | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies
So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour?
I'm alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Call that what you want "That is the definition of woke, | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies
So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour?
I'm alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Call that what you want
That is the definition of woke, "Are you woke? | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies
So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour?
I'm alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Call that what you want
That is the definition of woke,
Are you woke? "Yep, | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) | |||
"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits ) "That's not correct. The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money' I then asked if you were on benefits. | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies
So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour?
I'm alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Call that what you want
That is the definition of woke,
Are you woke?
Yep, "Great, we're aligned | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
"And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ? | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies
So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour?
I'm alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Call that what you want
That is the definition of woke,
Are you woke?
Yep,
Great, we're aligned "Definitely, | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) | |||
"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ? "Reason | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ? "The realms? | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies
So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour?
I'm alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Call that what you want
That is the definition of woke,
Are you woke?
Yep,
Great, we're aligned
Definitely, "Whatever made you think 'it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny' then? How strange | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ? "No I'm fortunate to be in work for my money | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies
So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour?
I'm alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Call that what you want
That is the definition of woke,
Are you woke?
Yep,
Great, we're aligned
Definitely,
Whatever made you think 'it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny' then? How strange "Because Braverman (the women your defending) keeps using the term Woke as an insult, she is either thick or she is confused? | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ?
No
I'm fortunate to be in work for my money "Plenty of working people are on benefits (nothing they be ashamed off) | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ?
No
I'm fortunate to be in work for my money
Plenty of working people are on benefits (nothing they be ashamed off) "Never said otherwise. I just don't have to claim them fortunately. | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ?
No
I'm fortunate to be in work for my money
Plenty of working people are on benefits (nothing they be ashamed off)
Never said otherwise. I just don't have to claim them fortunately. "That’s good, nothing to be ashamed off if did have to though ?? | |||
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"Because Braverman (the women your defending) keeps using the term Woke as an insult, she is either thick or she is confused? " Woke means different things to different people. You won't find out why she uses it as an insult until you look inside her head and discover what her personal definition is. | |||
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"Because Braverman (the women your defending) keeps using the term Woke as an insult, she is either thick or she is confused? Woke means different things to different people. You won't find out why she uses it as an insult until you look inside her head and discover what her personal definition is." And neither will you, so, what is your definition of woke? And do you think the Home Secretary should be using it as an insult | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies
So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour?
I'm alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Call that what you want
That is the definition of woke,
Are you woke?
Yep,
Great, we're aligned
Definitely,
Whatever made you think 'it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny' then? How strange
Because Braverman (the women your defending) keeps using the term Woke as an insult, she is either thick or she is confused? "You'd have to ask her that. Or you could ask Khalid Mahmood, Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Barr, why he said people were rejecting Labour because it's been taken over by trendy Londoners and "woke social media warriors" | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies
So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour?
I'm alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Call that what you want
That is the definition of woke,
Are you woke?
Yep,
Great, we're aligned
Definitely,
Whatever made you think 'it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny' then? How strange
Because Braverman (the women your defending) keeps using the term Woke as an insult, she is either thick or she is confused?
You'd have to ask her that. Or you could ask Khalid Mahmood, Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Barr, why he said people were rejecting Labour because it's been taken over by trendy Londoners and "woke social media warriors"
"I couldn’t give a shit what a labour MP has said, we have just both agreed what woke means? | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ?
No
I'm fortunate to be in work for my money
Plenty of working people are on benefits (nothing they be ashamed off)
Never said otherwise. I just don't have to claim them fortunately.
That’s good, nothing to be ashamed off if did have to though ?? "Ashamed of? Are pensioners ashamed of claiming the state pension? What a strange direction to take this? | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ?
No
I'm fortunate to be in work for my money
Plenty of working people are on benefits (nothing they be ashamed off)
Never said otherwise. I just don't have to claim them fortunately.
That’s good, nothing to be ashamed off if did have to though ??
Ashamed of?
Are pensioners ashamed of claiming the state pension? What a strange direction to take this? "No, and neither should people be ashamed of claiming benefits? Don’t you agree? | |||
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"Because Braverman (the women your defending) keeps using the term Woke as an insult, she is either thick or she is confused? Woke means different things to different people. You won't find out why she uses it as an insult until you look inside her head and discover what her personal definition is." That's the most ridiculous blancmange I've ever trumpeted. (Just using my own personal definitions of words, rather than the dictionary definitions). | |||
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"Because Braverman (the women your defending) keeps using the term Woke as an insult, she is either thick or she is confused? Woke means different things to different people. You won't find out why she uses it as an insult until you look inside her head and discover what her personal definition is. That's the most ridiculous blancmange I've ever trumpeted. (Just using my own personal definitions of words, rather than the dictionary definitions)." Haha, you would have thought that our pedantic friend on here and the home secretary would know and stick to the ‘real’ meaning of the word rather than the slang version,maybe it’s due to a lack of education? | |||
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"what is your definition of woke? And do you think the Home Secretary should be using it as an insult " My definition is nearly the same as yours - "alert to prejudice and discrimination". The problem comes in deciding what the word 'alert' means. It could be: 1. Noticing issues when you see them. 2. Noticing issues, and trying to fix them. 3. Actively looking for issues, and trying to fix them. 4. Actively looking for potential issues, and condemning everyone who disagrees with you. We've all seen examples of type 4, and I suspect that's what the Home Secretary was thinking when she used it as an insult. But, like I say, without getting her to explain, we can't tell. Do I think she should have used it as an insult? No. The word is too poorly defined to be used in any sort of sensible discussion. | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ?
No
I'm fortunate to be in work for my money
Plenty of working people are on benefits (nothing they be ashamed off)
Never said otherwise. I just don't have to claim them fortunately.
That’s good, nothing to be ashamed off if did have to though ??
Ashamed of?
Are pensioners ashamed of claiming the state pension? What a strange direction to take this?
No, and neither should people be ashamed of claiming benefits? Don’t you agree? "Of course and again, where have I said otherwise? Right, off down the pub. Thanks for the private messages, but put them on the forum!!! But yes, agree, he mangles the language and & today mangled an attempted attack on me, re wokery, benefits and goodness knows what else! Maybe he's never heard it before from conservatives, but you should never judge somebody according to the colour of their skin, what accent they speak with, whether they're male or female, what school they went to, what qualifications they've got, or their sexuality. The law should treat everyone equally and everybody should have an equal chance in life. That's 'woke'. That's me. It's decent British values. Cheers | |||
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"what is your definition of woke? And do you think the Home Secretary should be using it as an insult My definition is nearly the same as yours - "alert to prejudice and discrimination". The problem comes in deciding what the word 'alert' means. It could be: 1. Noticing issues when you see them. 2. Noticing issues, and trying to fix them. 3. Actively looking for issues, and trying to fix them. 4. Actively looking for potential issues, and condemning everyone who disagrees with you. We've all seen examples of type 4, and I suspect that's what the Home Secretary was thinking when she used it as an insult. But, like I say, without getting her to explain, we can't tell. Do I think she should have used it as an insult? No. The word is too poorly defined to be used in any sort of sensible discussion." Best case scenario, she looks like an idiot using a poorly defined word in its unintended context. Worst case scenario, she's suggesting that it's an insult to be alert to social injustice. | |||
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"what is your definition of woke? And do you think the Home Secretary should be using it as an insult My definition is nearly the same as yours - "alert to prejudice and discrimination". The problem comes in deciding what the word 'alert' means. It could be: 1. Noticing issues when you see them. 2. Noticing issues, and trying to fix them. 3. Actively looking for issues, and trying to fix them. 4. Actively looking for potential issues, and condemning everyone who disagrees with you. We've all seen examples of type 4, and I suspect that's what the Home Secretary was thinking when she used it as an insult. But, like I say, without getting her to explain, we can't tell. Do I think she should have used it as an insult? No. The word is too poorly defined to be used in any sort of sensible discussion." Then why did she use it? And how can we be sure we know anything that she really means unless we are in her head? She might not even know what other words mean ? You would have thought a person in her position would use the proper , English dictionary definition of the word? | |||
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"what is your definition of woke? And do you think the Home Secretary should be using it as an insult My definition is nearly the same as yours - "alert to prejudice and discrimination". The problem comes in deciding what the word 'alert' means. It could be: 1. Noticing issues when you see them. 2. Noticing issues, and trying to fix them. 3. Actively looking for issues, and trying to fix them. 4. Actively looking for potential issues, and condemning everyone who disagrees with you. We've all seen examples of type 4, and I suspect that's what the Home Secretary was thinking when she used it as an insult. But, like I say, without getting her to explain, we can't tell. Do I think she should have used it as an insult? No. The word is too poorly defined to be used in any sort of sensible discussion. Best case scenario, she looks like an idiot using a poorly defined word in its unintended context. Worst case scenario, she's suggesting that it's an insult to be alert to social injustice. " So she is either thick? Or ignorant? | |||
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ?
No
I'm fortunate to be in work for my money
Plenty of working people are on benefits (nothing they be ashamed off)
Never said otherwise. I just don't have to claim them fortunately.
That’s good, nothing to be ashamed off if did have to though ??
Ashamed of?
Are pensioners ashamed of claiming the state pension? What a strange direction to take this?
No, and neither should people be ashamed of claiming benefits? Don’t you agree?
Of course and again, where have I said otherwise?
Right, off down the pub. Thanks for the private messages, but put them on the forum!!!
But yes, agree, he mangles the language and & today mangled an attempted attack on me, re wokery, benefits and goodness knows what else!
Maybe he's never heard it before from conservatives, but you should never judge somebody according to the colour of their skin, what accent they speak with, whether they're male or female, what school they went to, what qualifications they've got, or their sexuality.
The law should treat everyone equally and everybody should have an equal chance in life. That's 'woke'. That's me. It's decent British values.
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"When she ran away from scrutiny in HoC I had to chuckle...”Braverman” I think not, oh the irony. Tbf, Yvette Cooper was about to destroy her, no wonder she ran away Nicola Sturgeon, Yvette Cooper and Bob Geldof taking in immigrants
Hasn't happened yet!
It's a rat trap.... and you've been caught
Do you care about homeless veterans?
Why are you asking?
Do you care or not? And if so, how many have you housed?
None, but I never promised that I would, unlike these virtue signalling politicians and pop stars!
Yes, of course I care.
Then house a few then, maybe these people said they would house immigrants were lying, surely you don’t mind liars ?
You house a few. We haven't all got your money or Bob Geldof's
No thanks, i pay tax to the government for them to sort out the problem
You could go further and dip into your wealth that you gloat about... if you really cared so much
I care just as much as you do. I didn’t gloat about my wealth, you suggested I was on benefits I merely replied to that (btw, there is nothing wrong with being on benefits )
That's not correct.
The only suggestion came from you when you said 'I don't work for my money'
I then asked if you were on benefits.
And I replied that I wasn’t and explained the realms why, btw, why would I be on benefits? Are you on benefits ?
No
I'm fortunate to be in work for my money
Plenty of working people are on benefits (nothing they be ashamed off)
Never said otherwise. I just don't have to claim them fortunately.
That’s good, nothing to be ashamed off if did have to though ??
Ashamed of?
Are pensioners ashamed of claiming the state pension? What a strange direction to take this?
No, and neither should people be ashamed of claiming benefits? Don’t you agree?
Of course and again, where have I said otherwise?
Right, off down the pub. Thanks for the private messages, but put them on the forum!!!
But yes, agree, he mangles the language and & today mangled an attempted attack on me, re wokery, benefits and goodness knows what else!
Maybe he's never heard it before from conservatives, but you should never judge somebody according to the colour of their skin, what accent they speak with, whether they're male or female, what school they went to, what qualifications they've got, or their sexuality.
The law should treat everyone equally and everybody should have an equal chance in life. That's 'woke'. That's me. It's decent British values.
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"Woke means different things to different people. You won't find out why she uses it as an insult until you look inside her head and discover what her personal definition is." "That's the most ridiculous blancmange I've ever trumpeted. (Just using my own personal definitions of words, rather than the dictionary definitions)." Feel free to look up the dictionary definitions of the word 'woke' and marvel at how different they all are. Notice that some definitions say it's only racial injustices, but others say it's all injustices. Notice that some say 'alert to' and others say 'actively attentive to'. Notice that some say it's about all social and cultural issues and others say that it's specifically about injustices. There's a wide world of wokery out there | |||
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"Woke means different things to different people. You won't find out why she uses it as an insult until you look inside her head and discover what her personal definition is. That's the most ridiculous blancmange I've ever trumpeted. (Just using my own personal definitions of words, rather than the dictionary definitions). Feel free to look up the dictionary definitions of the word 'woke' and marvel at how different they all are. Notice that some definitions say it's only racial injustices, but others say it's all injustices. Notice that some say 'alert to' and others say 'actively attentive to'. Notice that some say it's about all social and cultural issues and others say that it's specifically about injustices. There's a wide world of wokery out there " And none of the definitions can be used as an insult | |||
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"I haven't even got a clue who she is or what she looks like. On balance I think I am better off being television and newspaper free. I do subscribe to Private Eye and rely on them to do shrewd political analysis on my behalf. They are generally on the ball. " That is very wise, I am sure Private eye will accurately explain what Braverman is like | |||
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"Woke means different things to different people. You won't find out why she uses it as an insult until you look inside her head and discover what her personal definition is." "That's the most ridiculous blancmange I've ever trumpeted. (Just using my own personal definitions of words, rather than the dictionary definitions)." "Feel free to look up the dictionary definitions of the word 'woke' and marvel at how different they all are. Notice that some definitions say it's only racial injustices, but others say it's all injustices. Notice that some say 'alert to' and others say 'actively attentive to'. Notice that some say it's about all social and cultural issues and others say that it's specifically about injustices. There's a wide world of wokery out there." "And none of the definitions can be used as an insult" That's because dictionaries lag rather than lead. In the English language, there is no guiding body determining how words should be used. We get our meanings by people using the words. The dictionaries record the way that words are used, rather than how they should be used. It won't be long before the dictionaries add an alternative definition of 'overly sensitive to any issue involving race'. You might not agree with that definition, but that is how lots of people are using the word. | |||
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"Woke means different things to different people. You won't find out why she uses it as an insult until you look inside her head and discover what her personal definition is. That's the most ridiculous blancmange I've ever trumpeted. (Just using my own personal definitions of words, rather than the dictionary definitions). Feel free to look up the dictionary definitions of the word 'woke' and marvel at how different they all are. Notice that some definitions say it's only racial injustices, but others say it's all injustices. Notice that some say 'alert to' and others say 'actively attentive to'. Notice that some say it's about all social and cultural issues and others say that it's specifically about injustices. There's a wide world of wokery out there " There is. And only an absolute moron would think it's an insult to be alert or attentive to social injustice. Unless of course the person using it as an insult is the culprit of social injustice. | |||
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"Woke means different things to different people. You won't find out why she uses it as an insult until you look inside her head and discover what her personal definition is. That's the most ridiculous blancmange I've ever trumpeted. (Just using my own personal definitions of words, rather than the dictionary definitions). Feel free to look up the dictionary definitions of the word 'woke' and marvel at how different they all are. Notice that some definitions say it's only racial injustices, but others say it's all injustices. Notice that some say 'alert to' and others say 'actively attentive to'. Notice that some say it's about all social and cultural issues and others say that it's specifically about injustices. There's a wide world of wokery out there. And none of the definitions can be used as an insult That's because dictionaries lag rather than lead. In the English language, there is no guiding body determining how words should be used. We get our meanings by people using the words. The dictionaries record the way that words are used, rather than how they should be used. It won't be long before the dictionaries add an alternative definition of 'overly sensitive to any issue involving race'. You might not agree with that definition, but that is how lots of people are using the word." I completely strawberry meringue this point, it's absolute fungi. What a load of gargoyle nipples. | |||
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"Woke means different things to different people. You won't find out why she uses it as an insult until you look inside her head and discover what her personal definition is. That's the most ridiculous blancmange I've ever trumpeted. (Just using my own personal definitions of words, rather than the dictionary definitions). Feel free to look up the dictionary definitions of the word 'woke' and marvel at how different they all are. Notice that some definitions say it's only racial injustices, but others say it's all injustices. Notice that some say 'alert to' and others say 'actively attentive to'. Notice that some say it's about all social and cultural issues and others say that it's specifically about injustices. There's a wide world of wokery out there. And none of the definitions can be used as an insult That's because dictionaries lag rather than lead. In the English language, there is no guiding body determining how words should be used. We get our meanings by people using the words. The dictionaries record the way that words are used, rather than how they should be used. It won't be long before the dictionaries add an alternative definition of 'overly sensitive to any issue involving race'. You might not agree with that definition, but that is how lots of people are using the word." Get back to me when they do, until then, let’s stick to the official meaning rather than some made up shite , otherwise , every word can be changed | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics. "Wow…. More waffle….. One more try….. and that has to do with “breaking the ministerial code “ how?? It’s really not that hard a question to answer! | |||
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
Wow…. More waffle…..
One more try….. and that has to do with “breaking the ministerial code “ how??
It’s really not that hard a question to answer!
"Nah…he can’t do straight answers…much like his heroine Braverman, he’s all about deflection and spouting some disingenuous nonsense to avoid answering the point and all the while imagining he’s rather smarter than all the left luvvies | |||
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"Get sacked or resigns… Give it a couple of days…… A week ? Tbh, Sunak might have actually played a very clever move here (unlikely though) , promise Braverman the job, he gets her and the right wing support but he knows she will have to resign "I wondered if this is the case, but it does him damage too. | |||
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"Get sacked or resigns… Give it a couple of days…… A week ? Tbh, Sunak might have actually played a very clever move here (unlikely though) , promise Braverman the job, he gets her and the right wing support but he knows she will have to resign
I was thinking something like this… appoint her knowing she is going to have to resign.. then give the job to penny mourdant!
People keep saying it was a mistake… the mistake this time was that it basically ended up in an email chain, but the actual initial act itself was deliberate!
And she has previous to this to the point her nickname is leaky sue…
If I as a civil servant broke GDPR rules… I’d be sacked!
Yep, if she does survive in the short term she will mess up at some point in the future, she is incompetent
Thinly concealed racism and misogyny may eventually play a part, but how sad would that be? "Should Ministers adhere to the Ministerial code? Does reinstating a Minister who broke the code within six days indicate integrity and professionalism? Who are you accusing of racism and misogyny? Someone in this thread? If not, what point are you making? | |||
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"I can’t stand the woman because she appears to think that democracy and fairness are unimportant unless you are from the deserving wealthy! I imagine that if she had her way we would go back to the days of only being allowed to vote if you were an owner of property! " a bit like people on here 3 or so years ago then saying the uneducated shouldnt be allowed to vote | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . " Yes, she spends a lot of time blaming immigrants for everything, it's a distraction tactic that's proven very effective. You'll like her a lot I should imagine. Hopefully she's ousted and replaced with someone who has the normal human attributes of empathy and understanding. I doubt it though. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . " I don't think she's capable of grown up dialogue | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . "
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason."Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown. The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent. WTF are you on? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . Yes, she spends a lot of time blaming immigrants for everything, it's a distraction tactic that's proven very effective. You'll like her a lot I should imagine. Hopefully she's ousted and replaced with someone who has the normal human attributes of empathy and understanding. I doubt it though. " Once again, disingenuous. What has she blamed ILLEGAL immigrants for? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason."The RNLI makes excellent recycled carrier bags. Thanks for reminding me to pick another one up | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . I don't think she's capable of grown up dialogue " You may well be right. But, let’s all get behind her, show her she’s supported, give her a fighting chance to do a great job. Are you in? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?"I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course. Are you worried about losing business? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason."Some great suggestions there. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . " She could do that by spending a small portion of the £5m day on employing more staff to process refugees so that they could go out and get jobs and find somewhere to live as over 80% are genuine refugees. She could also spend some money another small portion in setting up legal routes to the UK for refugees thereby completely undercutting any criminal activity as it is then ethically and objectively to remove those who have not applied abroad back to the, very sadly numerous, refugee communities where they came from with an appropriate payment to the aid agencies or charities to apply legally. Yhe chosen government "solution" has exacerbated the problem but rather than reassess and come up with something new they repeat he same mistakes again and again. Like you saying something racist and then feigning shock and denying everything when you are called out on it. It's like a very bitter and unfunny version of Groundhog Day. I will leave you to continue to marinade in your fear and anger and denial of who you really are  | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . I don't think she's capable of grown up dialogue You may well be right. But, let’s all get behind her, show her she’s supported, give her a fighting chance to do a great job. Are you in? " Fuck no | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . Yes, she spends a lot of time blaming immigrants for everything, it's a distraction tactic that's proven very effective. You'll like her a lot I should imagine. Hopefully she's ousted and replaced with someone who has the normal human attributes of empathy and understanding. I doubt it though. Once again, disingenuous. What has she blamed ILLEGAL immigrants for?" Then what's the problem? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?"There may be a few children, but the vast majority will be the criminal single men gaming the system. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business? "What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
There may be a few children, but the vast majority will be the criminal single men gaming the system."Letting them drown not an issue though. If there are a few children mixed in, so be it, right? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . Yes, she spends a lot of time blaming immigrants for everything, it's a distraction tactic that's proven very effective. You'll like her a lot I should imagine. Hopefully she's ousted and replaced with someone who has the normal human attributes of empathy and understanding. I doubt it though. Once again, disingenuous. What has she blamed ILLEGAL immigrants for? Then what's the problem? "People making stuff up is the problem. Or are you happy with that? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . She could do that by spending a small portion of the £5m day on employing more staff to process refugees so that they could go out and get jobs and find somewhere to live as over 80% are genuine refugees. She could also spend some money another small portion in setting up legal routes to the UK for refugees thereby completely undercutting any criminal activity as it is then ethically and objectively to remove those who have not applied abroad back to the, very sadly numerous, refugee communities where they came from with an appropriate payment to the aid agencies or charities to apply legally. Yhe chosen government "solution" has exacerbated the problem but rather than reassess and come up with something new they repeat he same mistakes again and again. Like you saying something racist and then feigning shock and denying everything when you are called out on it. It's like a very bitter and unfunny version of Groundhog Day. I will leave you to continue to marinade in your fear and anger and denial of who you really are "But I have never said anything racist. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . Yes, she spends a lot of time blaming immigrants for everything, it's a distraction tactic that's proven very effective. You'll like her a lot I should imagine. Hopefully she's ousted and replaced with someone who has the normal human attributes of empathy and understanding. I doubt it though. Once again, disingenuous. What has she blamed ILLEGAL immigrants for? Then what's the problem?
People making stuff up is the problem. Or are you happy with that?"I have no idea why you make so much stuff up about immigration, irregular or otherwise. However, again, if irregular immigrants do not cause a problem why are you, or she, so bothered? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason."Would you extend that complete bollocks idea to the NHS? Fine them if they perform life saving surgery on someone who may be fleeing persecution? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte "I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . She could do that by spending a small portion of the £5m day on employing more staff to process refugees so that they could go out and get jobs and find somewhere to live as over 80% are genuine refugees. She could also spend some money another small portion in setting up legal routes to the UK for refugees thereby completely undercutting any criminal activity as it is then ethically and objectively to remove those who have not applied abroad back to the, very sadly numerous, refugee communities where they came from with an appropriate payment to the aid agencies or charities to apply legally. Yhe chosen government "solution" has exacerbated the problem but rather than reassess and come up with something new they repeat he same mistakes again and again. Like you saying something racist and then feigning shock and denying everything when you are called out on it. It's like a very bitter and unfunny version of Groundhog Day. I will leave you to continue to marinade in your fear and anger and denial of who you really are
But I have never said anything racist. "Ta daa! | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer."Why do you make up lies? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Would you extend that complete bollocks idea to the NHS?
Fine them if they perform life saving surgery on someone who may be fleeing persecution?
"Fleeing persecution from France? I know there are some narrow minded bigots in this world but France is a lovely country. Subjecting people to some of their cheeses, snails, and pop music could be considered ‘persecution’ I guess? Why don’t you attack the French for not putting these people up in French hotels? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?"But I don’t. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
There may be a few children, but the vast majority will be the criminal single men gaming the system.
Letting them drown not an issue though. If there are a few children mixed in, so be it, right?"They are trying to enter the UK illegally from another safe country. They are therefore knowingly putting themselves in danger. Therefore don't deserve any sympathy, and no resources should be expended to assist them. If they get onto the beaches they should be arrested for entering the UK illegally and deported quickly. 10,000 plane tickets to Albania would be required ASAP. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Some great suggestions there."which ones, Seb? Are we trying to prevent the trade or prevent people from being able to claim asylum. Or reduce the cost of the asylum process (as there will be mention of hotel bills soon) And how well will any of the above achieve this? The idea additional deterrents will be impactful is limited afaik. The HO didn't put any numbers against the Rwanda deterent itrc. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . She could do that by spending a small portion of the £5m day on employing more staff to process refugees so that they could go out and get jobs and find somewhere to live as over 80% are genuine refugees. She could also spend some money another small portion in setting up legal routes to the UK for refugees thereby completely undercutting any criminal activity as it is then ethically and objectively to remove those who have not applied abroad back to the, very sadly numerous, refugee communities where they came from with an appropriate payment to the aid agencies or charities to apply legally. Yhe chosen government "solution" has exacerbated the problem but rather than reassess and come up with something new they repeat he same mistakes again and again. Like you saying something racist and then feigning shock and denying everything when you are called out on it. It's like a very bitter and unfunny version of Groundhog Day. I will leave you to continue to marinade in your fear and anger and denial of who you really are
But I have never said anything racist.
Ta daa! "Ah, I have just clicked. Silly me, if I post something that you don’t like, because I’m a white guy, you shout racist. Interesting. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Would you extend that complete bollocks idea to the NHS?
Fine them if they perform life saving surgery on someone who may be fleeing persecution?
Fleeing persecution from France? I know there are some narrow minded bigots in this world but France is a lovely country.
Subjecting people to some of their cheeses, snails, and pop music could be considered ‘persecution’ I guess?
Why don’t you attack the French for not putting these people up in French hotels? "Is everyone your world dealt with under the premise of 'attacking others'.. Take a moment Ffs and ask yourself if you are really ok with the sick and inhumane thought processes of others who want the RNLI to leave people in potential risk of drowning or fine them if they save lives..? Is that you? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Would you extend that complete bollocks idea to the NHS?
Fine them if they perform life saving surgery on someone who may be fleeing persecution?
Fleeing persecution from France? I know there are some narrow minded bigots in this world but France is a lovely country.
Subjecting people to some of their cheeses, snails, and pop music could be considered ‘persecution’ I guess?
Why don’t you attack the French for not putting these people up in French hotels?
Is everyone your world dealt with under the premise of 'attacking others'..
Take a moment Ffs and ask yourself if you are really ok with the sick and inhumane thought processes of others who want the RNLI to leave people in potential risk of drowning or fine them if they save lives..?
Is that you?"Imagine traumatising those who seek to rescue others. Driving them away from trying to help others. Forcing them to watch people needlessly die. ... And then remember that sometimes Brits need help too. And if our rescuers are traumatised they won't be able to rescue you, either, they'll be ill. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
There may be a few children, but the vast majority will be the criminal single men gaming the system.
Letting them drown not an issue though. If there are a few children mixed in, so be it, right?
They are trying to enter the UK illegally from another safe country. They are therefore knowingly putting themselves in danger. Therefore don't deserve any sympathy, and no resources should be expended to assist them.
If they get onto the beaches they should be arrested for entering the UK illegally and deported quickly.
10,000 plane tickets to Albania would be required ASAP."the trouble is, as it stands, we have signed up to the position that someone has the right to claim asylum in any country they wish. Before you can do what you want to do, based on the position you have about safe countries, we need to back out of treaties we have signed. We'd be only one of a handful of countries to not be a signatory. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
There may be a few children, but the vast majority will be the criminal single men gaming the system.
Letting them drown not an issue though. If there are a few children mixed in, so be it, right?
They are trying to enter the UK illegally from another safe country. They are therefore knowingly putting themselves in danger. Therefore don't deserve any sympathy, and no resources should be expended to assist them.
If they get onto the beaches they should be arrested for entering the UK illegally and deported quickly.
10,000 plane tickets to Albania would be required ASAP.the trouble is, as it stands, we have signed up to the position that someone has the right to claim asylum in any country they wish.
Before you can do what you want to do, based on the position you have about safe countries, we need to back out of treaties we have signed. We'd be only one of a handful of countries to not be a signatory. "With this shower, stuff we've signed up to isn't an obligation. We don't obey laws, we're British! | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Would you extend that complete bollocks idea to the NHS?
Fine them if they perform life saving surgery on someone who may be fleeing persecution?
Fleeing persecution from France? I know there are some narrow minded bigots in this world but France is a lovely country.
Subjecting people to some of their cheeses, snails, and pop music could be considered ‘persecution’ I guess?
Why don’t you attack the French for not putting these people up in French hotels?
Is everyone your world dealt with under the premise of 'attacking others'..
Take a moment Ffs and ask yourself if you are really ok with the sick and inhumane thought processes of others who want the RNLI to leave people in potential risk of drowning or fine them if they save lives..?
Is that you?
Imagine traumatising those who seek to rescue others. Driving them away from trying to help others. Forcing them to watch people needlessly die.
... And then remember that sometimes Brits need help too. And if our rescuers are traumatised they won't be able to rescue you, either, they'll be ill."The scum and I don't attribute such a description willy Billy, who verbally and more cowardly online attacked the members of the RNLI are beyond contempt.. In years ahead will we look back and wonder how we ended up in such a divided society.. First the came for the judges.. Then the immigration lawyers.. Then the RNLI volunteers.. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . She could do that by spending a small portion of the £5m day on employing more staff to process refugees so that they could go out and get jobs and find somewhere to live as over 80% are genuine refugees. She could also spend some money another small portion in setting up legal routes to the UK for refugees thereby completely undercutting any criminal activity as it is then ethically and objectively to remove those who have not applied abroad back to the, very sadly numerous, refugee communities where they came from with an appropriate payment to the aid agencies or charities to apply legally. Yhe chosen government "solution" has exacerbated the problem but rather than reassess and come up with something new they repeat he same mistakes again and again. Like you saying something racist and then feigning shock and denying everything when you are called out on it. It's like a very bitter and unfunny version of Groundhog Day. I will leave you to continue to marinade in your fear and anger and denial of who you really are
But I have never said anything racist.
Ta daa!
Ah, I have just clicked. Silly me, if I post something that you don’t like, because I’m a white guy, you shout racist. Interesting."Braverman and Patel are pretty racist too. It's nothing to do with your skin colour. It's the words and sentiments that you regularly post that make you a racist. Now that you know, perhaps you can change for the better?  | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Would you extend that complete bollocks idea to the NHS?
Fine them if they perform life saving surgery on someone who may be fleeing persecution?
Fleeing persecution from France? I know there are some narrow minded bigots in this world but France is a lovely country.
Subjecting people to some of their cheeses, snails, and pop music could be considered ‘persecution’ I guess?
Why don’t you attack the French for not putting these people up in French hotels?
Is everyone your world dealt with under the premise of 'attacking others'..
Take a moment Ffs and ask yourself if you are really ok with the sick and inhumane thought processes of others who want the RNLI to leave people in potential risk of drowning or fine them if they save lives..?
Is that you?
Imagine traumatising those who seek to rescue others. Driving them away from trying to help others. Forcing them to watch people needlessly die.
... And then remember that sometimes Brits need help too. And if our rescuers are traumatised they won't be able to rescue you, either, they'll be ill.
The scum and I don't attribute such a description willy Billy, who verbally and more cowardly online attacked the members of the RNLI are beyond contempt..
In years ahead will we look back and wonder how we ended up in such a divided society..
First the came for the judges..
Then the immigration lawyers..
Then the RNLI volunteers.. "Very much. It's revolting. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t. "I'm not an immigration lawyer. You made that up. QED | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . She could do that by spending a small portion of the £5m day on employing more staff to process refugees so that they could go out and get jobs and find somewhere to live as over 80% are genuine refugees. She could also spend some money another small portion in setting up legal routes to the UK for refugees thereby completely undercutting any criminal activity as it is then ethically and objectively to remove those who have not applied abroad back to the, very sadly numerous, refugee communities where they came from with an appropriate payment to the aid agencies or charities to apply legally. Yhe chosen government "solution" has exacerbated the problem but rather than reassess and come up with something new they repeat he same mistakes again and again. Like you saying something racist and then feigning shock and denying everything when you are called out on it. It's like a very bitter and unfunny version of Groundhog Day. I will leave you to continue to marinade in your fear and anger and denial of who you really are
But I have never said anything racist.
Ta daa!
Ah, I have just clicked. Silly me, if I post something that you don’t like, because I’m a white guy, you shout racist. Interesting.
Braverman and Patel are pretty racist too.
It's nothing to do with your skin colour. It's the words and sentiments that you regularly post that make you a racist.
Now that you know, perhaps you can change for the better? "In your opinion. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED"I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . She could do that by spending a small portion of the £5m day on employing more staff to process refugees so that they could go out and get jobs and find somewhere to live as over 80% are genuine refugees. She could also spend some money another small portion in setting up legal routes to the UK for refugees thereby completely undercutting any criminal activity as it is then ethically and objectively to remove those who have not applied abroad back to the, very sadly numerous, refugee communities where they came from with an appropriate payment to the aid agencies or charities to apply legally. Yhe chosen government "solution" has exacerbated the problem but rather than reassess and come up with something new they repeat he same mistakes again and again. Like you saying something racist and then feigning shock and denying everything when you are called out on it. It's like a very bitter and unfunny version of Groundhog Day. I will leave you to continue to marinade in your fear and anger and denial of who you really are
But I have never said anything racist.
Ta daa!
Ah, I have just clicked. Silly me, if I post something that you don’t like, because I’m a white guy, you shout racist. Interesting.
Braverman and Patel are pretty racist too.
It's nothing to do with your skin colour. It's the words and sentiments that you regularly post that make you a racist.
Now that you know, perhaps you can change for the better? "Of course they are not racist. A pattern here, anyone or anything you don’t like - racist! | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks."That is what an assumption is. Made up. Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am. You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
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"Your question does not make sense. How can I answer whether, when Sue Ellen broke the code, she had sexist, racist or misogynistic intent?
I just mentioned her breaking the ministerial code…
You are the one who mentioned racism and misogyny…..
I want you to explain how you got to racism and misogyny from breaking the ministerial code… rather than you just throwing shit “words” at a wall and seeing what sticks!
Not very well worded by you, but I mentioned racism as much of the venom directed at Patel, Braverman, Kwarteng et al is borne out of it and thinly camouflaged.
Patel, Braverman and Truss are often the subject of misogyny on social media too.
They're not 'shit words' - it's real life bias and hatred that affects people deeply and has no place in British politics.
That is very woke? I thought it was only the luvvy left that are offended by racism and misogyny?
Surely most reasonable, decent people detest racism and misogyny? When did I say detesting it was the preserve of the 'luvvy left'?
On the contrary, the Labour Party with it's nasty anti semitic faction, Huq's disgraceful 'superficially black' comment and its constant inability to deliver a female leader shows where consistent discrimination lies
So you are woke? That is good to hear, do you always get offended by racist and misogynistic behaviour?
I'm alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Call that what you want
That is the definition of woke,
Are you woke? "This extensive diversion away from the OP, how long until she goes, is a pity and unnecessary. I'm guessing she will resign, as it will be seen as 'outstanding' behaviour, despite her tarnished image. This issue should be raised every week, until it's absolutely crystal clear that her appointment shows the continuing tory shit show, nothing different to see. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . She could do that by spending a small portion of the £5m day on employing more staff to process refugees so that they could go out and get jobs and find somewhere to live as over 80% are genuine refugees. She could also spend some money another small portion in setting up legal routes to the UK for refugees thereby completely undercutting any criminal activity as it is then ethically and objectively to remove those who have not applied abroad back to the, very sadly numerous, refugee communities where they came from with an appropriate payment to the aid agencies or charities to apply legally. Yhe chosen government "solution" has exacerbated the problem but rather than reassess and come up with something new they repeat he same mistakes again and again. Like you saying something racist and then feigning shock and denying everything when you are called out on it. It's like a very bitter and unfunny version of Groundhog Day. I will leave you to continue to marinade in your fear and anger and denial of who you really are
But I have never said anything racist.
Ta daa!
Ah, I have just clicked. Silly me, if I post something that you don’t like, because I’m a white guy, you shout racist. Interesting.
Braverman and Patel are pretty racist too.
It's nothing to do with your skin colour. It's the words and sentiments that you regularly post that make you a racist.
Now that you know, perhaps you can change for the better?
Of course they are not racist. A pattern here, anyone or anything you don’t like - racist! "There are views and people that I do not like who are not racist. You are though. Based solely on your words and the sentiments that they express. It is strange that you are unable to recognise it in yourself. All that I can do is point it out so that you recognise what racism is. | |||
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" I'm guessing she will resign, as it will be seen as 'outstanding' behaviour, despite her tarnished image. This issue should be raised every week, until it's absolutely crystal clear that her appointment shows the continuing tory shit show, nothing different to see. " I'm astonished she was reappointed given her serious misconduct (breaching government confidentiality and using a non approved email address in doing so). This culture war stuff distracts from that. We should expect the highest standards in parliament, and quite clearly we're not getting them. | |||
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" I'm guessing she will resign, as it will be seen as 'outstanding' behaviour, despite her tarnished image. This issue should be raised every week, until it's absolutely crystal clear that her appointment shows the continuing tory shit show, nothing different to see. I'm astonished she was reappointed given her serious misconduct (breaching government confidentiality and using a non approved email address in doing so). This culture war stuff distracts from that. We should expect the highest standards in parliament, and quite clearly we're not getting them." Maybe Armando Iannucci nailed it.. To bring her back so soon is either fuck the ministerial code from Sunak or he is so worried about the ERG he had to.. | |||
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" I'm guessing she will resign, as it will be seen as 'outstanding' behaviour, despite her tarnished image. This issue should be raised every week, until it's absolutely crystal clear that her appointment shows the continuing tory shit show, nothing different to see. I'm astonished she was reappointed given her serious misconduct (breaching government confidentiality and using a non approved email address in doing so). This culture war stuff distracts from that. We should expect the highest standards in parliament, and quite clearly we're not getting them. Maybe Armando Iannucci nailed it.. To bring her back so soon is either fuck the ministerial code from Sunak or he is so worried about the ERG he had to.." Sunak must have made some sort of quid pro quo deal with Braverman. I can't think of another reason to bring her back like this. | |||
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" I'm guessing she will resign, as it will be seen as 'outstanding' behaviour, despite her tarnished image. This issue should be raised every week, until it's absolutely crystal clear that her appointment shows the continuing tory shit show, nothing different to see. I'm astonished she was reappointed given her serious misconduct (breaching government confidentiality and using a non approved email address in doing so). This culture war stuff distracts from that. We should expect the highest standards in parliament, and quite clearly we're not getting them. Maybe Armando Iannucci nailed it.. To bring her back so soon is either fuck the ministerial code from Sunak or he is so worried about the ERG he had to.." Yes, I suspect that this is placating the ERG | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
There may be a few children, but the vast majority will be the criminal single men gaming the system.
Letting them drown not an issue though. If there are a few children mixed in, so be it, right?
They are trying to enter the UK illegally from another safe country. They are therefore knowingly putting themselves in danger. Therefore don't deserve any sympathy, and no resources should be expended to assist them.
If they get onto the beaches they should be arrested for entering the UK illegally and deported quickly.
10,000 plane tickets to Albania would be required ASAP."PMSL, trolling again | |||
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" I'm guessing she will resign, as it will be seen as 'outstanding' behaviour, despite her tarnished image. This issue should be raised every week, until it's absolutely crystal clear that her appointment shows the continuing tory shit show, nothing different to see. I'm astonished she was reappointed given her serious misconduct (breaching government confidentiality and using a non approved email address in doing so). This culture war stuff distracts from that. We should expect the highest standards in parliament, and quite clearly we're not getting them. Maybe Armando Iannucci nailed it.. To bring her back so soon is either fuck the ministerial code from Sunak or he is so worried about the ERG he had to.. Yes, I suspect that this is placating the ERG" Definitely, but it is becoming apparent that she will have to resign | |||
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" I'm guessing she will resign, as it will be seen as 'outstanding' behaviour, despite her tarnished image. This issue should be raised every week, until it's absolutely crystal clear that her appointment shows the continuing tory shit show, nothing different to see. I'm astonished she was reappointed given her serious misconduct (breaching government confidentiality and using a non approved email address in doing so). This culture war stuff distracts from that. We should expect the highest standards in parliament, and quite clearly we're not getting them. Maybe Armando Iannucci nailed it.. To bring her back so soon is either fuck the ministerial code from Sunak or he is so worried about the ERG he had to.. Yes, I suspect that this is placating the ERG Definitely, but it is becoming apparent that she will have to resign " At least the shit show is entertaining? | |||
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" I'm guessing she will resign, as it will be seen as 'outstanding' behaviour, despite her tarnished image. This issue should be raised every week, until it's absolutely crystal clear that her appointment shows the continuing tory shit show, nothing different to see. I'm astonished she was reappointed given her serious misconduct (breaching government confidentiality and using a non approved email address in doing so). This culture war stuff distracts from that. We should expect the highest standards in parliament, and quite clearly we're not getting them. Maybe Armando Iannucci nailed it.. To bring her back so soon is either fuck the ministerial code from Sunak or he is so worried about the ERG he had to.. Yes, I suspect that this is placating the ERG Definitely, but it is becoming apparent that she will have to resign " She absolutely should resign or get sacked. But we saw Johnson refuse to sack people who had to be sacked over and over again. Feels like Sunak is following in the same footsteps. | |||
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" I'm guessing she will resign, as it will be seen as 'outstanding' behaviour, despite her tarnished image. This issue should be raised every week, until it's absolutely crystal clear that her appointment shows the continuing tory shit show, nothing different to see. I'm astonished she was reappointed given her serious misconduct (breaching government confidentiality and using a non approved email address in doing so). This culture war stuff distracts from that. We should expect the highest standards in parliament, and quite clearly we're not getting them. Maybe Armando Iannucci nailed it.. To bring her back so soon is either fuck the ministerial code from Sunak or he is so worried about the ERG he had to.. Yes, I suspect that this is placating the ERG Definitely, but it is becoming apparent that she will have to resign She absolutely should resign or get sacked. But we saw Johnson refuse to sack people who had to be sacked over and over again. Feels like Sunak is following in the same footsteps." True, maybe I am naive, but I have a feeling Sunak isn’t that bothered about keeping Braverman | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution "How funny. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny. "Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see  | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see "What on earth makes you say that? I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see
What on earth makes you say that?
I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally?"Your a man of 62, you are in the twilight of your life, enjoy what time you have left and stop being terrified about a tiny number of people arriving here by boat , you will end up bitter and twisted , sad to see | |||
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" I'm guessing she will resign, as it will be seen as 'outstanding' behaviour, despite her tarnished image. This issue should be raised every week, until it's absolutely crystal clear that her appointment shows the continuing tory shit show, nothing different to see. I'm astonished she was reappointed given her serious misconduct (breaching government confidentiality and using a non approved email address in doing so). This culture war stuff distracts from that. We should expect the highest standards in parliament, and quite clearly we're not getting them. Maybe Armando Iannucci nailed it.. To bring her back so soon is either fuck the ministerial code from Sunak or he is so worried about the ERG he had to.. Yes, I suspect that this is placating the ERG Definitely, but it is becoming apparent that she will have to resign At least the shit show is entertaining?" More like yet another embarrassing episode.. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see
What on earth makes you say that?
I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally?"I'm not entirely ecstatic with such figures if they are true and not another let's frighten and soften up the population before more bizarre solutions from this government.. There are massive global issues with movement of people, be that famine, climate change, war or plain old opportunity for some who've watched this government reduce core services to such an extent that they know they will evade being caught if they leg it and are up to no good.. Big problems require commitment and resourcing properly by government.. Letting people drown is not one I want any government to allow.. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see
What on earth makes you say that?
I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally?"I am uncomfortable if they are remaining and working in the uk illegally. They are ripe for exploitation. I can also see no benefit to the UK of illegal workers, other than for employees or customers of the companies. I am also uncomfortable if that number have a legitimate claim here, as it likely means that number are being trafficed. So it's the same flavour of the above. There is, I suspect, a huge illegal industry behind this. Algeria has, I believe, a reputation for organised crime. We need to address the roots here. The boat people are often the product, not the criminals. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . " But I thought it was all about taking back control of the borders…. If you wanted no part of Schengen when we were in the EU, why do you want them to relax restrictions now we are out!!!! It’s laughable that people think they can trying want their cake and eat it!!! | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see
What on earth makes you say that?
I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally?
I'm not entirely ecstatic with such figures if they are true and not another let's frighten and soften up the population before more bizarre solutions from this government..
There are massive global issues with movement of people, be that famine, climate change, war or plain old opportunity for some who've watched this government reduce core services to such an extent that they know they will evade being caught if they leg it and are up to no good..
Big problems require commitment and resourcing properly by government..
Letting people drown is not one I want any government to allow.."There is a massive and growing global movement from the south and east. However, it’s nothing to do with climate change. It is everything to do with over population, high birth rates and the exodus of jobs to China. At the same time there is a mass movement of jobs and money from Europe to China also. We are possibly seeing the end of western civilisation. Not as dramatic as the fall of Rome to the Barbarians that led to the dark ages but a steady decline indeed. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . But I thought it was all about taking back control of the borders…. If you wanted no part of Schengen when we were in the EU, why do you want them to relax restrictions now we are out!!!! It’s laughable that people think they can trying want their cake and eat it!!! " Are you assuming I voted Brexit? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see
What on earth makes you say that?
I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally?
Your a man of 62, you are in the twilight of your life, enjoy what time you have left and stop being terrified about a tiny number of people arriving here by boat , you will end up bitter and twisted , sad to see "Small number? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
There may be a few children, but the vast majority will be the criminal single men gaming the system."Only if you're a daily mail reader. In any case, how many drowned children is it worth it for you in order to see the adults drown too? | |||
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"You may well be right. But, let’s all get behind her, show her she’s supported, give her a fighting chance to do a great job. Are you in? " She is supposedly the top official in the uk dealing with internal security issues… so if she is dumb enough to break the security rules this time round and broken them on another occasion to the point where MI5 had to have a word, and her punishment for all of this was basically a week off work! Like I said…. Any civil servant who broke GDPR rules would be ushered off the premises and most likely sacked! | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see
What on earth makes you say that?
I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally?
I'm not entirely ecstatic with such figures if they are true and not another let's frighten and soften up the population before more bizarre solutions from this government..
There are massive global issues with movement of people, be that famine, climate change, war or plain old opportunity for some who've watched this government reduce core services to such an extent that they know they will evade being caught if they leg it and are up to no good..
Big problems require commitment and resourcing properly by government..
Letting people drown is not one I want any government to allow..
There is a massive and growing global movement from the south and east. However, it’s nothing to do with climate change. It is everything to do with over population, high birth rates and the exodus of jobs to China. At the same time there is a mass movement of jobs and money from Europe to China also.
We are possibly seeing the end of western civilisation. Not as dramatic as the fall of Rome to the Barbarians that led to the dark ages but a steady decline indeed. "Many parts of the globe are experiencing prolonged drought, and yes for some drought is not an uncommon phenomenon in their history but what the world is seeing is the effects of climate change upon populations and their ability to grow basic foodstuffs.. Ditto flooding in some parts too as we've just seen in Pakistan.. The science is pretty clear and the impacts are and will cause population movement.. Do you still agree that letting people drown in the seas around our shores is a way of dealing with that area of immigration? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . But I thought it was all about taking back control of the borders…. If you wanted no part of Schengen when we were in the EU, why do you want them to relax restrictions now we are out!!!! It’s laughable that people think they can trying want their cake and eat it!!! Are you assuming I voted Brexit?" Nope… the whole point of Schengen is passport free travel across the continent! That goes both ways!!! | |||
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"You may well be right. But, let’s all get behind her, show her she’s supported, give her a fighting chance to do a great job. Are you in? She is supposedly the top official in the uk dealing with internal security issues… so if she is dumb enough to break the security rules this time round and broken them on another occasion to the point where MI5 had to have a word, and her punishment for all of this was basically a week off work! Like I said…. Any civil servant who broke GDPR rules would be ushered off the premises and most likely sacked! " They want to be treated like the rest of us. Apparently | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits . But I thought it was all about taking back control of the borders…. If you wanted no part of Schengen when we were in the EU, why do you want them to relax restrictions now we are out!!!! It’s laughable that people think they can trying want their cake and eat it!!! Are you assuming I voted Brexit? Nope… the whole point of Schengen is passport free travel across the continent! That goes both ways!!! "So who was talking about taking back control and who wants their cake? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see
What on earth makes you say that?
I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally?
I'm not entirely ecstatic with such figures if they are true and not another let's frighten and soften up the population before more bizarre solutions from this government..
There are massive global issues with movement of people, be that famine, climate change, war or plain old opportunity for some who've watched this government reduce core services to such an extent that they know they will evade being caught if they leg it and are up to no good..
Big problems require commitment and resourcing properly by government..
Letting people drown is not one I want any government to allow..
There is a massive and growing global movement from the south and east. However, it’s nothing to do with climate change. It is everything to do with over population, high birth rates and the exodus of jobs to China. At the same time there is a mass movement of jobs and money from Europe to China also.
We are possibly seeing the end of western civilisation. Not as dramatic as the fall of Rome to the Barbarians that led to the dark ages but a steady decline indeed.
Many parts of the globe are experiencing prolonged drought, and yes for some drought is not an uncommon phenomenon in their history but what the world is seeing is the effects of climate change upon populations and their ability to grow basic foodstuffs..
Ditto flooding in some parts too as we've just seen in Pakistan..
The science is pretty clear and the impacts are and will cause population movement..
Do you still agree that letting people drown in the seas around our shores is a way of dealing with that area of immigration?"Wow! Look at the population of Pakistan in 1970 compared to today. The landscape was formed by torrential floods. Madagascar, had a drought and the biased BBC claimed it as the first climate change famine. No mention that on an island the population has exploded from six to twenty six million. Perhaps that is the cause? Perhaps dopey stop oil protesters should go out there and lecture them on birth control. Of course I don’t want anyone to drown. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
There may be a few children, but the vast majority will be the criminal single men gaming the system.
Only if you're a daily mail reader.
In any case, how many drowned children is it worth it for you in order to see the adults drown too?"Disingenuous again with your exaggerated idea of the influence of a newspaper and your obsession with children drowning. Move on fella. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
There may be a few children, but the vast majority will be the criminal single men gaming the system.
Only if you're a daily mail reader.
In any case, how many drowned children is it worth it for you in order to see the adults drown too?
Disingenuous again with your exaggerated idea of the influence of a newspaper and your obsession with children drowning. Move on fella."I replied to someone else talking about drowning children, is that "obsessed"? This is the first time I've ever mentioned this on the forums, is that also "obsessed"? Meanwhile complaining about foriegners every single day, isn't obsessed? Interesting. Also, I wasn't replying to you. But thanks for your bizarre input. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
There may be a few children, but the vast majority will be the criminal single men gaming the system.
Only if you're a daily mail reader.
In any case, how many drowned children is it worth it for you in order to see the adults drown too?
Disingenuous again with your exaggerated idea of the influence of a newspaper and your obsession with children drowning. Move on fella.
I replied to someone else talking about drowning children, is that "obsessed"? This is the first time I've ever mentioned this on the forums, is that also "obsessed"?
Meanwhile complaining about foriegners every single day, isn't obsessed?
Interesting.
Also, I wasn't replying to you. But thanks for your bizarre input."I just can’t stand nonsense to make a point. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
There may be a few children, but the vast majority will be the criminal single men gaming the system.
Only if you're a daily mail reader.
In any case, how many drowned children is it worth it for you in order to see the adults drown too?
Disingenuous again with your exaggerated idea of the influence of a newspaper and your obsession with children drowning. Move on fella.
I replied to someone else talking about drowning children, is that "obsessed"? This is the first time I've ever mentioned this on the forums, is that also "obsessed"?
Meanwhile complaining about foriegners every single day, isn't obsessed?
Interesting.
Also, I wasn't replying to you. But thanks for your bizarre input.
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"Interesting interview with the head of the CBI on Emily Maitlis and John Sopels podcast - for the last 15 years the UK economy has had hardly any growth (12 years of which has been Tory governments) - the only answer that the man from the CBI could come up with to improve growth was to increase immigration. Now his take was that we need high quality professionals to fill vacancies and make the economy grow as it was the only way to achieve this without investment. Now given how many high quality EU citizens have gone home since Brexit and now that we are cut out of areas like Horizon or Erasmus you have to ask how many feet we have left to shoot ourselves in? Braverman is an idiot, Brexit was an existential disaster and all this shit about 10000 Albanians arriving on our shores is just a distraction for the retired daily mail reading muppets at the 19th hole to bray into their pints about. The solution is to engage with immigration and make it work for us not to prevaricate and delay in a hostile environment because the only ones who win in that case are Tory donors like Serco! "So you think it’s ok for over 10,000 Albanians, mostly men of military age and unknown background to come here illegally? How many can we put you down for to house & feed? | |||
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"Interesting interview with the head of the CBI on Emily Maitlis and John Sopels podcast - for the last 15 years the UK economy has had hardly any growth (12 years of which has been Tory governments) - the only answer that the man from the CBI could come up with to improve growth was to increase immigration. Now his take was that we need high quality professionals to fill vacancies and make the economy grow as it was the only way to achieve this without investment. Now given how many high quality EU citizens have gone home since Brexit and now that we are cut out of areas like Horizon or Erasmus you have to ask how many feet we have left to shoot ourselves in? Braverman is an idiot, Brexit was an existential disaster and all this shit about 10000 Albanians arriving on our shores is just a distraction for the retired daily mail reading muppets at the 19th hole to bray into their pints about. The solution is to engage with immigration and make it work for us not to prevaricate and delay in a hostile environment because the only ones who win in that case are Tory donors like Serco!
So you think it’s ok for over 10,000 Albanians, mostly men of military age and unknown background to come here illegally? How many can we put you down for to house & feed? "Is this the only option? Either you hate foriegners, or 10,000 of them have to stay at your gaff? Blimey. | |||
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"Interesting interview with the head of the CBI on Emily Maitlis and John Sopels podcast - for the last 15 years the UK economy has had hardly any growth (12 years of which has been Tory governments) - the only answer that the man from the CBI could come up with to improve growth was to increase immigration. Now his take was that we need high quality professionals to fill vacancies and make the economy grow as it was the only way to achieve this without investment. Now given how many high quality EU citizens have gone home since Brexit and now that we are cut out of areas like Horizon or Erasmus you have to ask how many feet we have left to shoot ourselves in? Braverman is an idiot, Brexit was an existential disaster and all this shit about 10000 Albanians arriving on our shores is just a distraction for the retired daily mail reading muppets at the 19th hole to bray into their pints about. The solution is to engage with immigration and make it work for us not to prevaricate and delay in a hostile environment because the only ones who win in that case are Tory donors like Serco!
So you think it’s ok for over 10,000 Albanians, mostly men of military age and unknown background to come here illegally? How many can we put you down for to house & feed?
Is this the only option?
Either you hate foriegners, or 10,000 of them have to stay at your gaff?
Blimey."I assume you are exaggerating for effect? I don’t know anybody that ‘hates foreigners’ they don’t exist. | |||
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"Interesting interview with the head of the CBI on Emily Maitlis and John Sopels podcast - for the last 15 years the UK economy has had hardly any growth (12 years of which has been Tory governments) - the only answer that the man from the CBI could come up with to improve growth was to increase immigration. Now his take was that we need high quality professionals to fill vacancies and make the economy grow as it was the only way to achieve this without investment. Now given how many high quality EU citizens have gone home since Brexit and now that we are cut out of areas like Horizon or Erasmus you have to ask how many feet we have left to shoot ourselves in? Braverman is an idiot, Brexit was an existential disaster and all this shit about 10000 Albanians arriving on our shores is just a distraction for the retired daily mail reading muppets at the 19th hole to bray into their pints about. The solution is to engage with immigration and make it work for us not to prevaricate and delay in a hostile environment because the only ones who win in that case are Tory donors like Serco!
So you think it’s ok for over 10,000 Albanians, mostly men of military age and unknown background to come here illegally? How many can we put you down for to house & feed?
Is this the only option?
Either you hate foriegners, or 10,000 of them have to stay at your gaff?
Blimey.
I assume you are exaggerating for effect? I don’t know anybody that ‘hates foreigners’ they don’t exist. "They definitely do. There are in fact more foreigners than non-foreign people on this planet. You should know, you tell us regularly how worried you are about them and how you believe they cause all these problems. | |||
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"Interesting interview with the head of the CBI on Emily Maitlis and John Sopels podcast - for the last 15 years the UK economy has had hardly any growth (12 years of which has been Tory governments) - the only answer that the man from the CBI could come up with to improve growth was to increase immigration. Now his take was that we need high quality professionals to fill vacancies and make the economy grow as it was the only way to achieve this without investment. Now given how many high quality EU citizens have gone home since Brexit and now that we are cut out of areas like Horizon or Erasmus you have to ask how many feet we have left to shoot ourselves in? Braverman is an idiot, Brexit was an existential disaster and all this shit about 10000 Albanians arriving on our shores is just a distraction for the retired daily mail reading muppets at the 19th hole to bray into their pints about. The solution is to engage with immigration and make it work for us not to prevaricate and delay in a hostile environment because the only ones who win in that case are Tory donors like Serco!
So you think it’s ok for over 10,000 Albanians, mostly men of military age and unknown background to come here illegally? How many can we put you down for to house & feed?
Is this the only option?
Either you hate foriegners, or 10,000 of them have to stay at your gaff?
Blimey.
I assume you are exaggerating for effect? I don’t know anybody that ‘hates foreigners’ they don’t exist.
They definitely do. There are in fact more foreigners than non-foreign people on this planet. You should know, you tell us regularly how worried you are about them and how you believe they cause all these problems."There are indeed more foreigners than non. No disingenuous thoughts there. | |||
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"Interesting interview with the head of the CBI on Emily Maitlis and John Sopels podcast - for the last 15 years the UK economy has had hardly any growth (12 years of which has been Tory governments) - the only answer that the man from the CBI could come up with to improve growth was to increase immigration. Now his take was that we need high quality professionals to fill vacancies and make the economy grow as it was the only way to achieve this without investment. Now given how many high quality EU citizens have gone home since Brexit and now that we are cut out of areas like Horizon or Erasmus you have to ask how many feet we have left to shoot ourselves in? Braverman is an idiot, Brexit was an existential disaster and all this shit about 10000 Albanians arriving on our shores is just a distraction for the retired daily mail reading muppets at the 19th hole to bray into their pints about. The solution is to engage with immigration and make it work for us not to prevaricate and delay in a hostile environment because the only ones who win in that case are Tory donors like Serco! "Not very ‘woke’ of you, some would say rude to be dismissive of a group of people based on age, choice of newspaper and sport. Need to do a bit better. | |||
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"Interesting interview with the head of the CBI on Emily Maitlis and John Sopels podcast - for the last 15 years the UK economy has had hardly any growth (12 years of which has been Tory governments) - the only answer that the man from the CBI could come up with to improve growth was to increase immigration. Now his take was that we need high quality professionals to fill vacancies and make the economy grow as it was the only way to achieve this without investment. Now given how many high quality EU citizens have gone home since Brexit and now that we are cut out of areas like Horizon or Erasmus you have to ask how many feet we have left to shoot ourselves in? Braverman is an idiot, Brexit was an existential disaster and all this shit about 10000 Albanians arriving on our shores is just a distraction for the retired daily mail reading muppets at the 19th hole to bray into their pints about. The solution is to engage with immigration and make it work for us not to prevaricate and delay in a hostile environment because the only ones who win in that case are Tory donors like Serco!
So you think it’s ok for over 10,000 Albanians, mostly men of military age and unknown background to come here illegally? How many can we put you down for to house & feed? "He didn't say it was ok? | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see
What on earth makes you say that?
I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally?
I'm not entirely ecstatic with such figures if they are true and not another let's frighten and soften up the population before more bizarre solutions from this government..
There are massive global issues with movement of people, be that famine, climate change, war or plain old opportunity for some who've watched this government reduce core services to such an extent that they know they will evade being caught if they leg it and are up to no good..
Big problems require commitment and resourcing properly by government..
Letting people drown is not one I want any government to allow..
There is a massive and growing global movement from the south and east. However, it’s nothing to do with climate change. It is everything to do with over population, high birth rates and the exodus of jobs to China. At the same time there is a mass movement of jobs and money from Europe to China also.
We are possibly seeing the end of western civilisation. Not as dramatic as the fall of Rome to the Barbarians that led to the dark ages but a steady decline indeed.
Many parts of the globe are experiencing prolonged drought, and yes for some drought is not an uncommon phenomenon in their history but what the world is seeing is the effects of climate change upon populations and their ability to grow basic foodstuffs..
Ditto flooding in some parts too as we've just seen in Pakistan..
The science is pretty clear and the impacts are and will cause population movement..
Do you still agree that letting people drown in the seas around our shores is a way of dealing with that area of immigration?
Wow! Look at the population of Pakistan in 1970 compared to today. The landscape was formed by torrential floods. Madagascar, had a drought and the biased BBC claimed it as the first climate change famine. No mention that on an island the population has exploded from six to twenty six million. Perhaps that is the cause? Perhaps dopey stop oil protesters should go out there and lecture them on birth control.
Of course I don’t want anyone to drown. "There is certainly population growth. There is also climate change. These are not mutually exclusive events. There is a markedly increased rate in extreme weather events. That is a consequence of climate change. These create more hardship in many parts of the world. There has also been an increase in large scale armed conflict without a return to security and stability afterwards. All of this leads to large scale displacement of populations on a long term basis. Curious that you are unable to recognise that. It is not only the reasonably neutral BBC that reported the Madagascar famine as a consequence of climate change. Unlike you, they do not make things up. They report on verifiable information. Just one of those things  | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see
What on earth makes you say that?
I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally?
I'm not entirely ecstatic with such figures if they are true and not another let's frighten and soften up the population before more bizarre solutions from this government..
There are massive global issues with movement of people, be that famine, climate change, war or plain old opportunity for some who've watched this government reduce core services to such an extent that they know they will evade being caught if they leg it and are up to no good..
Big problems require commitment and resourcing properly by government..
Letting people drown is not one I want any government to allow..
There is a massive and growing global movement from the south and east. However, it’s nothing to do with climate change. It is everything to do with over population, high birth rates and the exodus of jobs to China. At the same time there is a mass movement of jobs and money from Europe to China also.
We are possibly seeing the end of western civilisation. Not as dramatic as the fall of Rome to the Barbarians that led to the dark ages but a steady decline indeed.
Many parts of the globe are experiencing prolonged drought, and yes for some drought is not an uncommon phenomenon in their history but what the world is seeing is the effects of climate change upon populations and their ability to grow basic foodstuffs..
Ditto flooding in some parts too as we've just seen in Pakistan..
The science is pretty clear and the impacts are and will cause population movement..
Do you still agree that letting people drown in the seas around our shores is a way of dealing with that area of immigration?
Wow! Look at the population of Pakistan in 1970 compared to today. The landscape was formed by torrential floods. Madagascar, had a drought and the biased BBC claimed it as the first climate change famine. No mention that on an island the population has exploded from six to twenty six million. Perhaps that is the cause? Perhaps dopey stop oil protesters should go out there and lecture them on birth control.
Of course I don’t want anyone to drown.
There is certainly population growth.
There is also climate change.
These are not mutually exclusive events.
There is a markedly increased rate in extreme weather events. That is a consequence of climate change. These create more hardship in many parts of the world.
There has also been an increase in large scale armed conflict without a return to security and stability afterwards.
All of this leads to large scale displacement of populations on a long term basis.
Curious that you are unable to recognise that.
It is not only the reasonably neutral BBC that reported the Madagascar famine as a consequence of climate change.
Unlike you, they do not make things up. They report on verifiable information.
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see
What on earth makes you say that?
I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally?
I'm not entirely ecstatic with such figures if they are true and not another let's frighten and soften up the population before more bizarre solutions from this government..
There are massive global issues with movement of people, be that famine, climate change, war or plain old opportunity for some who've watched this government reduce core services to such an extent that they know they will evade being caught if they leg it and are up to no good..
Big problems require commitment and resourcing properly by government..
Letting people drown is not one I want any government to allow..
There is a massive and growing global movement from the south and east. However, it’s nothing to do with climate change. It is everything to do with over population, high birth rates and the exodus of jobs to China. At the same time there is a mass movement of jobs and money from Europe to China also.
We are possibly seeing the end of western civilisation. Not as dramatic as the fall of Rome to the Barbarians that led to the dark ages but a steady decline indeed.
Many parts of the globe are experiencing prolonged drought, and yes for some drought is not an uncommon phenomenon in their history but what the world is seeing is the effects of climate change upon populations and their ability to grow basic foodstuffs..
Ditto flooding in some parts too as we've just seen in Pakistan..
The science is pretty clear and the impacts are and will cause population movement..
Do you still agree that letting people drown in the seas around our shores is a way of dealing with that area of immigration?
Wow! Look at the population of Pakistan in 1970 compared to today. The landscape was formed by torrential floods. Madagascar, had a drought and the biased BBC claimed it as the first climate change famine. No mention that on an island the population has exploded from six to twenty six million. Perhaps that is the cause? Perhaps dopey stop oil protesters should go out there and lecture them on birth control.
Of course I don’t want anyone to drown.
There is certainly population growth.
There is also climate change.
These are not mutually exclusive events.
There is a markedly increased rate in extreme weather events. That is a consequence of climate change. These create more hardship in many parts of the world.
There has also been an increase in large scale armed conflict without a return to security and stability afterwards.
All of this leads to large scale displacement of populations on a long term basis.
Curious that you are unable to recognise that.
It is not only the reasonably neutral BBC that reported the Madagascar famine as a consequence of climate change.
Unlike you, they do not make things up. They report on verifiable information.
Just one of those things "Verifiable information? So why no mention of the population growth? The inconvenient truth. | |||
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"Let’s hope she rises to the challenge, does a brilliant job and confounds us all. She can start by ending the illegal immigrant industry, restoring order to our border, then start grown up dialogue with our European friends to end the Schengen restrictions for us Brits .
She could start by extending the fines for carrying illegal immigrants. Include anyone who helps to bring the immigrants here, including the RNLI. Also stop border force picking them up.
They then need to go the entire distance in the small boat not half way to the waiting taxis.
Also fine any UK citizen who goes to work in the camps in France. They should actually be charged with treason.
Yes, absolutely the best thing to do is to leave people to drown.
The bodies of a few children washing up on our shores will be a great statement of intent.
WTF are you on?
I’m on planet Earth. Better to stop them from getting in boats in the first place of course.
Are you worried about losing business?
What a bizarre comment. Do please explain the tortured logic path that led you to this "hilarious" reposte
I assumed you make a fortune as an immigration lawyer.
Why do you make up lies?
But I don’t.
I'm not an immigration lawyer.
You made that up.
QED
I didn’t make it up. It was an assumption. But you doth protest too much me thinks.
That is what an assumption is. Made up.
Weirdly, you are now implying that my not being an immigration lawyer is somehow evidence as I am.
You are a strange chap
Still unable to come up with any constructive method of improving the refugee processing system other than repeating what is already failing.
Thank you for your contribution
How funny.
Seb, i thought we were making progress, it looks like you have gone back to your confused and terrified ways, sad to see
What on earth makes you say that?
I take it you are quite comfortable with over ten thousand men from Albania coming here illegally?
I'm not entirely ecstatic with such figures if they are true and not another let's frighten and soften up the population before more bizarre solutions from this government..
There are massive global issues with movement of people, be that famine, climate change, war or plain old opportunity for some who've watched this government reduce core services to such an extent that they know they will evade being caught if they leg it and are up to no good..
Big problems require commitment and resourcing properly by government..
Letting people drown is not one I want any government to allow..
There is a massive and growing global movement from the south and east. However, it’s nothing to do with climate change. It is everything to do with over population, high birth rates and the exodus of jobs to China. At the same time there is a mass movement of jobs and money from Europe to China also.
We are possibly seeing the end of western civilisation. Not as dramatic as the fall of Rome to the Barbarians that led to the dark ages but a steady decline indeed.
Many parts of the globe are experiencing prolonged drought, and yes for some drought is not an uncommon phenomenon in their history but what the world is seeing is the effects of climate change upon populations and their ability to grow basic foodstuffs..
Ditto flooding in some parts too as we've just seen in Pakistan..
The science is pretty clear and the impacts are and will cause population movement..
Do you still agree that letting people drown in the seas around our shores is a way of dealing with that area of immigration?
Wow! Look at the population of Pakistan in 1970 compared to today. The landscape was formed by torrential floods. Madagascar, had a drought and the biased BBC claimed it as the first climate change famine. No mention that on an island the population has exploded from six to twenty six million. Perhaps that is the cause? Perhaps dopey stop oil protesters should go out there and lecture them on birth control.
Of course I don’t want anyone to drown.
There is certainly population growth.
There is also climate change.
These are not mutually exclusive events.
There is a markedly increased rate in extreme weather events. That is a consequence of climate change. These create more hardship in many parts of the world.
There has also been an increase in large scale armed conflict without a return to security and stability afterwards.
All of this leads to large scale displacement of populations on a long term basis.
Curious that you are unable to recognise that.
It is not only the reasonably neutral BBC that reported the Madagascar famine as a consequence of climate change.
Unlike you, they do not make things up. They report on verifiable information.
Just one of those things
Verifiable information? So why no mention of the population growth? The inconvenient truth."Because they report on the scientific understanding of climate change and its impact on the increase in extreme weather events. | |||
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"Interesting interview with the head of the CBI on Emily Maitlis and John Sopels podcast - for the last 15 years the UK economy has had hardly any growth (12 years of which has been Tory governments) - the only answer that the man from the CBI could come up with to improve growth was to increase immigration. Now his take was that we need high quality professionals to fill vacancies and make the economy grow as it was the only way to achieve this without investment. Now given how many high quality EU citizens have gone home since Brexit and now that we are cut out of areas like Horizon or Erasmus you have to ask how many feet we have left to shoot ourselves in? Braverman is an idiot, Brexit was an existential disaster and all this shit about 10000 Albanians arriving on our shores is just a distraction for the retired daily mail reading muppets at the 19th hole to bray into their pints about. The solution is to engage with immigration and make it work for us not to prevaricate and delay in a hostile environment because the only ones who win in that case are Tory donors like Serco!
So you think it’s ok for over 10,000 Albanians, mostly men of military age and unknown background to come here illegally? How many can we put you down for to house & feed? "There is no published data to indicate that 10,000 Albanians have arrived through irregular immigration. There is equally no published data to indicate their sex or age. Why would you use the term "military age". It sounds like someone feeling or trying to instill fear. Why not use the phrase "football playing age"? Irregular immigration has increased as the current Governments policy of removing legal routes, reducing resource to process those seeking asylum and increasing coastal patrols has been intensified. Further increases have taken place since Braverman's dream of Rwanda flights have been announced. Why do wish the new/old Home Secretary to pursue a failed policy? | |||
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