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Lizz Truss’s entitlement to ex PM £115k yearly allowance
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By *al kal OP Man
over a year ago
london |
Less than 2 months in charge, which was an absolute farce. Seems somewhat inappropriate for tax payer money to pay for expenses for the rest of her life.
So should Lizz Truss be entitled to claim up to £115k annual (PDCA) ex PM allowance?
Should she voluntarily forgo this?
Have it withheld in the interest of tax payers?
Alter the rules to apply only if some minimum term of office is reached?
Get rid of this allowance outright for former PMs?
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"Less than 2 months in charge, which was an absolute farce. Seems somewhat inappropriate for tax payer money to pay for expenses for the rest of her life.
So should Lizz Truss be entitled to claim up to £115k annual (PDCA) ex PM allowance?
Should she voluntarily forgo this?
Have it withheld in the interest of tax payers?
Alter the rules to apply only if some minimum term of office is reached?
Get rid of this allowance outright for former PMs?
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Do not forget the chancellor's, home secretaries, how many have there been. |
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"It is the maximum amount of expenses a former PM can claim in a year due to "ongoing public duties", once they leave the post.
What is wrong with that?"
She won't have any..
The allowance is directly in relation to the time in office, she wasn't there ling enough or with any credible reasons going forward that would justify it..
The criteria doesn't apply to abject incompetence. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"It is the maximum amount of expenses a former PM can claim in a year due to "ongoing public duties", once they leave the post.
What is wrong with that?
She won't have any..
The allowance is directly in relation to the time in office, she wasn't there ling enough or with any credible reasons going forward that would justify it..
The criteria doesn't apply to abject incompetence."
She will claim expenses to attend some kind of event laid on by this government, or a foreign government, although I wouldn't expect there to be too many.
That is all it is, a ceiling on what can be claimed. |
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"It is the maximum amount of expenses a former PM can claim in a year due to "ongoing public duties", once they leave the post.
What is wrong with that?
She won't have any..
The allowance is directly in relation to the time in office, she wasn't there ling enough or with any credible reasons going forward that would justify it..
The criteria doesn't apply to abject incompetence.
She will claim expenses to attend some kind of event laid on by this government, or a foreign government, although I wouldn't expect there to be too many.
That is all it is, a ceiling on what can be claimed."
There is no way she will attend any event to do with the Tory party in an official capacity as an 'ex Prime Minister'..
They will want to disassociate with that complete fuck up in their history and her doing anything officially will only serve to remind everyone of that and like all political parties negative association and derision are not how they want the public/media to look upon a previous period..
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"It is the maximum amount of expenses a former PM can claim in a year due to "ongoing public duties", once they leave the post.
What is wrong with that?
She won't have any..
The allowance is directly in relation to the time in office, she wasn't there ling enough or with any credible reasons going forward that would justify it..
The criteria doesn't apply to abject incompetence.
She will claim expenses to attend some kind of event laid on by this government, or a foreign government, although I wouldn't expect there to be too many.
That is all it is, a ceiling on what can be claimed.
There is no way she will attend any event to do with the Tory party in an official capacity as an 'ex Prime Minister'..
They will want to disassociate with that complete fuck up in their history and her doing anything officially will only serve to remind everyone of that and like all political parties negative association and derision are not how they want the public/media to look upon a previous period..
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I can see the logic, but she will be invited to events and would not be left out, up to her if she attends them.
The kings ascension, was an event she would have been invited to, as an example, and I bet there are many we don't hear about. |
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"It is the maximum amount of expenses a former PM can claim in a year due to "ongoing public duties", once they leave the post.
What is wrong with that?
She won't have any..
The allowance is directly in relation to the time in office, she wasn't there ling enough or with any credible reasons going forward that would justify it..
The criteria doesn't apply to abject incompetence.
She will claim expenses to attend some kind of event laid on by this government, or a foreign government, although I wouldn't expect there to be too many.
That is all it is, a ceiling on what can be claimed.
There is no way she will attend any event to do with the Tory party in an official capacity as an 'ex Prime Minister'..
They will want to disassociate with that complete fuck up in their history and her doing anything officially will only serve to remind everyone of that and like all political parties negative association and derision are not how they want the public/media to look upon a previous period..
I can see the logic, but she will be invited to events and would not be left out, up to her if she attends them.
The kings ascension, was an event she would have been invited to, as an example, and I bet there are many we don't hear about. "
She had a leaving do at Chequers in Friday, probably a select invite list..
Unless she leaves political life it will remain, the phrase Liz Truss ex PM will for years only invoke mirth and bafflement even if it's politely hidden.. |
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I'd be in favour of her having unlimited expenses...
That are subject to approval before they're granted, with the same degree of scrutiny that a low level civil servant would receive.
In fact, I'd change all political expenses to unlimited once approved, otherwise zero. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
Truss always struck me as that girl (or boy) at school who so desperately wanted to be popular but was actually quite annoying and always got things a bit wrong when trying to be cool or “in”. The one nobody told about the party they were having in case she turned up assuming she was invited. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"Truss always struck me as that girl (or boy) at school who so desperately wanted to be popular but was actually quite annoying and always got things a bit wrong when trying to be cool or “in”. The one nobody told about the party they were having in case she turned up assuming she was invited."
She has the bus fare now, no party to small  |
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"I'd be in favour of her having unlimited expenses...
That are subject to approval before they're granted, with the same degree of scrutiny that a low level civil servant would receive.
In fact, I'd change all political expenses to unlimited once approved, otherwise zero."
Just another example of ‘snouts in the trough’ politicians. Don’t forget the expenses scandal of about a decade back - both sides we exposed. They haven’t forgotten of of course and probably go to greater lengths now to avoid detection. |
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"I'd be in favour of her having unlimited expenses...
That are subject to approval before they're granted, with the same degree of scrutiny that a low level civil servant would receive.
In fact, I'd change all political expenses to unlimited once approved, otherwise zero.
Just another example of ‘snouts in the trough’ politicians. Don’t forget the expenses scandal of about a decade back - both sides we exposed. They haven’t forgotten of of course and probably go to greater lengths now to avoid detection."
You'll note I didn't say that one party or another should be singled out. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
Having wasted £500k on flying in that government jet to Australia and the obscene business lunches we all paid for, I doubt she will give a damn about the publics opinion. She will just the take cash as and when she needs it.
Who do you think pays for Boris to fly to the states and get £100k speaking gig? It’s government related sort of. Isn’t it?.
I’m making unfounded accusations just for the record but maybe I’m right given his love of others paying for his lifestyle. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"Having wasted £500k on flying in that government jet to Australia and the obscene business lunches we all paid for, I doubt she will give a damn about the publics opinion. She will just the take cash as and when she needs it.
Who do you think pays for Boris to fly to the states and get £100k speaking gig? It’s government related sort of. Isn’t it?.
I’m making unfounded accusations just for the record but maybe I’m right given his love of others paying for his lifestyle. "
The allowance is for official duties that may occur as an ex PM.
Lapping it up the motivational speaking circuit will be picked up privately, and going back to your point, I bet not by Boris. Pound to a pinch of salt all expenses were part of the gig. |
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By *al kal OP Man
over a year ago
london |
"Having wasted £500k on flying in that government jet to Australia and the obscene business lunches we all paid for, I doubt she will give a damn about the publics opinion. She will just the take cash as and when she needs it.
Who do you think pays for Boris to fly to the states and get £100k speaking gig? It’s government related sort of. Isn’t it?.
I’m making unfounded accusations just for the record but maybe I’m right given his love of others paying for his lifestyle.
The allowance is for official duties that may occur as an ex PM.
Lapping it up the motivational speaking circuit will be picked up privately, and going back to your point, I bet not by Boris. Pound to a pinch of salt all expenses were part of the gig."
44 days and allowed to expense up to 115k pa for hmmm “public duties”. It’s taking the biscuit… |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"Having wasted £500k on flying in that government jet to Australia and the obscene business lunches we all paid for, I doubt she will give a damn about the publics opinion. She will just the take cash as and when she needs it.
Who do you think pays for Boris to fly to the states and get £100k speaking gig? It’s government related sort of. Isn’t it?.
I’m making unfounded accusations just for the record but maybe I’m right given his love of others paying for his lifestyle.
The allowance is for official duties that may occur as an ex PM.
Lapping it up the motivational speaking circuit will be picked up privately, and going back to your point, I bet not by Boris. Pound to a pinch of salt all expenses were part of the gig.
44 days and allowed to expense up to 115k pa for hmmm “public duties”. It’s taking the biscuit…"
Depends on the public duties doesn't it? I would imagine there will be some she would not go to through her own, self awareness. Or maybe not |
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By *al kal OP Man
over a year ago
london |
"Having wasted £500k on flying in that government jet to Australia and the obscene business lunches we all paid for, I doubt she will give a damn about the publics opinion. She will just the take cash as and when she needs it.
Who do you think pays for Boris to fly to the states and get £100k speaking gig? It’s government related sort of. Isn’t it?.
I’m making unfounded accusations just for the record but maybe I’m right given his love of others paying for his lifestyle.
The allowance is for official duties that may occur as an ex PM.
Lapping it up the motivational speaking circuit will be picked up privately, and going back to your point, I bet not by Boris. Pound to a pinch of salt all expenses were part of the gig.
44 days and allowed to expense up to 115k pa for hmmm “public duties”. It’s taking the biscuit…
Depends on the public duties doesn't it? I would imagine there will be some she would not go to through her own, self awareness. Or maybe not "
I must have missed her having some sort of awareness in the last couple of months |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Having wasted £500k on flying in that government jet to Australia and the obscene business lunches we all paid for, I doubt she will give a damn about the publics opinion. She will just the take cash as and when she needs it.
Who do you think pays for Boris to fly to the states and get £100k speaking gig? It’s government related sort of. Isn’t it?.
I’m making unfounded accusations just for the record but maybe I’m right given his love of others paying for his lifestyle.
The allowance is for official duties that may occur as an ex PM.
Lapping it up the motivational speaking circuit will be picked up privately, and going back to your point, I bet not by Boris. Pound to a pinch of salt all expenses were part of the gig."
It’s the definition of “official” because there is very little which is official if you’re not the pm apart from social functions. It could be claimed he’s travelling to the US and whilst there he will have a business development meeting at the embassy. Easy to pop in for a catch up. He could then in theory trouser the travel expenses for the speaker gig.
Like I said my points are definitely not facts. He likes freebies that is a fact. |
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Perhaps she could spend it on promoting British cheese in both the UK and overseas. Say in Palestine/Israel by running a small boutique deli named Cheeses of Nazareth.
And I've not mentioned the Chinese pork market she opened. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
In part, the point of it is that a former Senior Minister or Prime Minister is never in a situation that they are financially compromised and vulnerable to coercion (beyond just greed!)
They also have access to privileged information so as to be available to consult with their own experience.
So no, it shouldn't be forgone although it does end up looking like a reward for failure.
Perhaps no pension and no briefings as I see no useful experience she would ever bring. There's enough video evidence of that... |
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