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"Hmmm he has a lovely voting record. Nice guy! Wife with dodgy tax affairs who owned companies that received £millions in Covid support but she then closed down so nothing needed paying back. Total conflict of interest with his wife/father-in-law owning Infosys who are benefitting hugely from the IR35 decimation of freelancing in UK. Oh and a company that continued trading in Russia after all the British companies were told not to (yes it is an Indian company but then don’t get into politics in the UK if there is conflict of interest). As Chancellor, under his watch, an “accounting error” led to the UK paying another £20bn in interest payments on Govt debt. His ill conceived Covid support was open to fraud and HMRC have had to write off over £4bn. Safe pair of hands with the economy though! Not forgetting his banking job before politics and how he was one of the bankers that helped drag us into the 2008 financial crisis. **The thing is, when Johnson and Truss (and their respective Cabinets') are sooooo useless, it makes Sunak look passably competent!" ** I reckon that's why they put Liz in first. Anyone else will look better. She was the fall guy. | |||
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"Hmmm he has a lovely voting record. Nice guy! Wife with dodgy tax affairs who owned companies that received £millions in Covid support but she then closed down so nothing needed paying back. Total conflict of interest with his wife/father-in-law owning Infosys who are benefitting hugely from the IR35 decimation of freelancing in UK. Oh and a company that continued trading in Russia after all the British companies were told not to (yes it is an Indian company but then don’t get into politics in the UK if there is conflict of interest). As Chancellor, under his watch, an “accounting error” led to the UK paying another £20bn in interest payments on Govt debt. His ill conceived Covid support was open to fraud and HMRC have had to write off over £4bn. Safe pair of hands with the economy though! Not forgetting his banking job before politics and how he was one of the bankers that helped drag us into the 2008 financial crisis. The thing is, when Johnson and Truss (and their respective Cabinets') are sooooo useless, it makes Sunak look passably competent!" In fairness, all the Tories have horrendous voting records. | |||
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"Hmmm he has a lovely voting record. Nice guy! Wife with dodgy tax affairs who owned companies that received £millions in Covid support but she then closed down so nothing needed paying back. Total conflict of interest with his wife/father-in-law owning Infosys who are benefitting hugely from the IR35 decimation of freelancing in UK. Oh and a company that continued trading in Russia after all the British companies were told not to (yes it is an Indian company but then don’t get into politics in the UK if there is conflict of interest). As Chancellor, under his watch, an “accounting error” led to the UK paying another £20bn in interest payments on Govt debt. His ill conceived Covid support was open to fraud and HMRC have had to write off over £4bn. Safe pair of hands with the economy though! Not forgetting his banking job before politics and how he was one of the bankers that helped drag us into the 2008 financial crisis. The thing is, when Johnson and Truss (and their respective Cabinets') are sooooo useless, it makes Sunak look passably competent! In fairness, all the Tories have horrendous voting records." Exactly. I think the key thing here is whether the parliamentary party support him. The country needs stability - even if you don't like the direction of travel, turmoil is good for no one. | |||
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"Out of touch multi millionaire who is keen on austerity and will represent the interests of the corporate banks. No real change." Exactly!!   | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. " Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. " Do you think Penny or Boris would be more committed to the UK? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Do you think Penny or Boris would be more committed to the UK? " You can never truly tell of course. Certainly not Boris, possibly Penny. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory?" The whole Green Card fiasco and his wife’s claimed non-dom status were not good signs that he/they saw the UK as their long term home. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Do you think Penny or Boris would be more committed to the UK? You can never truly tell of course. Certainly not Boris, possibly Penny. " Fair enough, | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? The whole Green Card fiasco and his wife’s claimed non-dom status were not good signs that he/they saw the UK as their long term home." I don't think any Tory has shown any real commitment to the UK long term. They can buy themselves out of problems they cause. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory?" Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. " ° No, but then perhaps he may retire to Notting Hill like former Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne, who has just ensconced himself in his £10M home. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? The whole Green Card fiasco and his wife’s claimed non-dom status were not good signs that he/they saw the UK as their long term home. I don't think any Tory has shown any real commitment to the UK long term. They can buy themselves out of problems they cause." Very true. A modern day phenomenon I guess. You could say the same of any politician with a few Bob of course. Especially as we now have more career politicians rather than those in it for a ‘calling’. Why does Rishi want to be PM I wonder? He could be living the good life in LA, chat shows with Harry & Meghan etc. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? The whole Green Card fiasco and his wife’s claimed non-dom status were not good signs that he/they saw the UK as their long term home. I don't think any Tory has shown any real commitment to the UK long term. They can buy themselves out of problems they cause." True but I feel it was more overt than normal with the Sunak family! | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK." He is British | |||
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"Just another Tory until they lose the next GE. He wont do much to turn it around. Lost credibility by sticking with Boris for too long." Yep, I think he is an upgrade on Truss and Boris but that really isn’t difficult | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British " No he’s not. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. " He is definitely British , | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? The whole Green Card fiasco and his wife’s claimed non-dom status were not good signs that he/they saw the UK as their long term home. I don't think any Tory has shown any real commitment to the UK long term. They can buy themselves out of problems they cause. Very true. A modern day phenomenon I guess. You could say the same of any politician with a few Bob of course. Especially as we now have more career politicians rather than those in it for a ‘calling’. Why does Rishi want to be PM I wonder? He could be living the good life in LA, chat shows with Harry & Meghan etc." Sunak wants to be in Govt in UK in order to directly influence policy decisions that will further enrich himself, his wife, their kids and extended family. It is the ONLY reason a multi-millionaire married to a billionaire would want the hassle of being in the public eye and supposedly exposed to scrutiny. A FTA with India that favours India (and more specifically Indian businesses like Infosys) will now become the priority. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? The whole Green Card fiasco and his wife’s claimed non-dom status were not good signs that he/they saw the UK as their long term home. I don't think any Tory has shown any real commitment to the UK long term. They can buy themselves out of problems they cause. Very true. A modern day phenomenon I guess. You could say the same of any politician with a few Bob of course. Especially as we now have more career politicians rather than those in it for a ‘calling’. Why does Rishi want to be PM I wonder? He could be living the good life in LA, chat shows with Harry & Meghan etc. Sunak wants to be in Govt in UK in order to directly influence policy decisions that will further enrich himself, his wife, their kids and extended family. It is the ONLY reason a multi-millionaire married to a billionaire would want the hassle of being in the public eye and supposedly exposed to scrutiny. A FTA with India that favours India (and more specifically Indian businesses like Infosys) will now become the priority. " I agree, he is a Tory so he will be in it for personal gain, | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK." He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , " Not the correct type of British for some people. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy?" Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people." Yep, Seb up to his old tricks ,  | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy?" Beat me to it re born in Southampton! Seb where were you going with that? Bizarre thing to say! | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. " Sunak is British, why would you suggest otherwise? What is your definition of ‘British’ | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. " Whoah there fella! What defines whether someone is British? | |||
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"I do find this kind of thing amusing. Very amusing. I'm often told I'm "British really". I was born in western Sydney, which as we know is absolutely a part of Great Britain, while Southampton absolutely is not. There's a kangaroo on my passport. My parents, grandparents, all but one great-grandparent, all but two great-great-grandparents, were all born in either the state or colony of New South Wales, and I trace my family back to the first five years of white settlement there. But Southampton doesn't count. Maybe it's because my name is (English first name) (English middle name) (common English surname)? " To be fair though swing, we all know that Aussie’s want to be British really  | |||
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"I do find this kind of thing amusing. Very amusing. I'm often told I'm "British really". I was born in western Sydney, which as we know is absolutely a part of Great Britain, while Southampton absolutely is not. There's a kangaroo on my passport. My parents, grandparents, all but one great-grandparent, all but two great-great-grandparents, were all born in either the state or colony of New South Wales, and I trace my family back to the first five years of white settlement there. But Southampton doesn't count. Maybe it's because my name is (English first name) (English middle name) (common English surname)? To be fair though swing, we all know that Aussie’s want to be British really "Absolutely not  | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? The whole Green Card fiasco and his wife’s claimed non-dom status were not good signs that he/they saw the UK as their long term home. I don't think any Tory has shown any real commitment to the UK long term. They can buy themselves out of problems they cause. Very true. A modern day phenomenon I guess. You could say the same of any politician with a few Bob of course. Especially as we now have more career politicians rather than those in it for a ‘calling’. Why does Rishi want to be PM I wonder? He could be living the good life in LA, chat shows with Harry & Meghan etc. Sunak wants to be in Govt in UK in order to directly influence policy decisions that will further enrich himself, his wife, their kids and extended family. It is the ONLY reason a multi-millionaire married to a billionaire would want the hassle of being in the public eye and supposedly exposed to scrutiny. A FTA with India that favours India (and more specifically Indian businesses like Infosys) will now become the priority. I agree, he is a Tory so he will be in it for personal gain, " He is a politician and wealthy, he will believe without doubt that his experiences in success are everything this country needs. The need to be successful will be his ultimate driving force, after all, he seems to have everything else he could possibly need. I think those traits in a politician are either celebrated or hated. However the interesting thing is, his predecessors were so poor it has opened up the middle ground between celebrated and hate for him to take advantage of, which I feel is unique to Sunak. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Sunak is British, why would you suggest otherwise? What is your definition of ‘British’ " The definition I hear most often is "like us, really". The people who try to lump me in - well, I'm offended, frankly. I'll go stand over there with "them furrins" | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. " What has Sunak said to make you believe he sees himself as something other than British? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. " Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? " Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people." Not to be the British prime minister. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. What has Sunak said to make you believe he sees himself as something other than British? " Judge people by what they do, not by what they say. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister." His unsuitability for the role of PM is unrelated to your confusion over his nationality. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister." He is as British as you are, tell me why he isn’t | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly " No confusion here. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. What has Sunak said to make you believe he sees himself as something other than British? Judge people by what they do, not by what they say." He is British Seb | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. What has Sunak said to make you believe he sees himself as something other than British? Judge people by what they do, not by what they say." What is something that Sunak has done that makes him ineligible to be British? Have other British people done them? If so, what should happen to them? Assuming I applied (I meet the legal criteria), do you think I'd be British? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. " You appear confused over Sunak's nationality, claiming he's not British multiple times. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister." Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. " Seb you are avoiding giving a straight answer. Sunak (who I intensely dislike, if that wasn’t obvious) is British. He was born here and is a British citizen. Why are you saying he isn’t British? His loyalty or potential to see his future as being outside the UK is a different matter! | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister. Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.." I'm of Irish and English heritage... | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister. Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.. I'm of Irish and English heritage... " Complete Heinz 57 here... French/Jewish, Portuguese, Scottish, English. Born here and consider myself British but wonder what Seb would think? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister. Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.. I'm of Irish and English heritage... " That's not a bad mix.. 
The boss is a mixture of English, some Scottish and a bit of Scandinavian I think..
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister. Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.." He won’t and can’t answer , he will just do the usual, faux outrage and deflection | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. " I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister. Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.. I'm of Irish and English heritage... Complete Heinz 57 here... French/Jewish, Portuguese, Scottish, English. Born here and consider myself British but wonder what Seb would think?" I'm probably about three quarters English heritage but don't consider myself British in the slightest. Knuckle draggers often want me in their club when they call me British*. I'd disagree * I'm not saying all British people are knuckle draggers... Just that the idea that I'm British is a particularly stupid argument made by rather stupid people. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister. Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.. I'm of Irish and English heritage... Complete Heinz 57 here... French/Jewish, Portuguese, Scottish, English. Born here and consider myself British but wonder what Seb would think? I'm probably about three quarters English heritage but don't consider myself British in the slightest. Knuckle draggers often want me in their club when they call me British*. I'd disagree * I'm not saying all British people are knuckle draggers... Just that the idea that I'm British is a particularly stupid argument made by rather stupid people. " You were born in Oz so you’re an Aussie. Quite why you want to be here these last 6 years or so I have no idea! Most welcome of course! Seb’s gone quiet! It’s almost as if he thinks he is edgy by dropping into threads, dropping controversial opinion hand grenades, then bogging off chuckling at our outrage! That or the lure of the 19th hole looms large! | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister. Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.. I'm of Irish and English heritage... Complete Heinz 57 here... French/Jewish, Portuguese, Scottish, English. Born here and consider myself British but wonder what Seb would think? I'm probably about three quarters English heritage but don't consider myself British in the slightest. Knuckle draggers often want me in their club when they call me British*. I'd disagree * I'm not saying all British people are knuckle draggers... Just that the idea that I'm British is a particularly stupid argument made by rather stupid people. You were born in Oz so you’re an Aussie. Quite why you want to be here these last 6 years or so I have no idea! Most welcome of course! Seb’s gone quiet! It’s almost as if he thinks he is edgy by dropping into threads, dropping controversial opinion hand grenades, then bogging off chuckling at our outrage! That or the lure of the 19th hole looms large!" I've been here over a decade, it's my home, for better or worse. But the idea I have some sort of birthright to another nationality based on (handwaving reasoning) is absurd. (Or that my nationality doesn't count somehow, I get that too) Sunak is quite clearly British, though. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister. Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.. I'm of Irish and English heritage... Complete Heinz 57 here... French/Jewish, Portuguese, Scottish, English. Born here and consider myself British but wonder what Seb would think? I'm probably about three quarters English heritage but don't consider myself British in the slightest. Knuckle draggers often want me in their club when they call me British*. I'd disagree * I'm not saying all British people are knuckle draggers... Just that the idea that I'm British is a particularly stupid argument made by rather stupid people. You were born in Oz so you’re an Aussie. Quite why you want to be here these last 6 years or so I have no idea! Most welcome of course! Seb’s gone quiet! It’s almost as if he thinks he is edgy by dropping into threads, dropping controversial opinion hand grenades, then bogging off chuckling at our outrage! That or the lure of the 19th hole looms large! I've been here over a decade, it's my home, for better or worse. But the idea I have some sort of birthright to another nationality based on (handwaving reasoning) is absurd. (Or that my nationality doesn't count somehow, I get that too) Sunak is quite clearly British, though." Indeed. Seb is yet to explain his thinking! | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister. Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.. I'm of Irish and English heritage... Complete Heinz 57 here... French/Jewish, Portuguese, Scottish, English. Born here and consider myself British but wonder what Seb would think? I'm probably about three quarters English heritage but don't consider myself British in the slightest. Knuckle draggers often want me in their club when they call me British*. I'd disagree * I'm not saying all British people are knuckle draggers... Just that the idea that I'm British is a particularly stupid argument made by rather stupid people. You were born in Oz so you’re an Aussie. Quite why you want to be here these last 6 years or so I have no idea! Most welcome of course! Seb’s gone quiet! It’s almost as if he thinks he is edgy by dropping into threads, dropping controversial opinion hand grenades, then bogging off chuckling at our outrage! That or the lure of the 19th hole looms large!" Not at all, busy boy trying to scratch a living. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister. Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.. I'm of Irish and English heritage... Complete Heinz 57 here... French/Jewish, Portuguese, Scottish, English. Born here and consider myself British but wonder what Seb would think? I'm probably about three quarters English heritage but don't consider myself British in the slightest. Knuckle draggers often want me in their club when they call me British*. I'd disagree * I'm not saying all British people are knuckle draggers... Just that the idea that I'm British is a particularly stupid argument made by rather stupid people. You were born in Oz so you’re an Aussie. Quite why you want to be here these last 6 years or so I have no idea! Most welcome of course! Seb’s gone quiet! It’s almost as if he thinks he is edgy by dropping into threads, dropping controversial opinion hand grenades, then bogging off chuckling at our outrage! That or the lure of the 19th hole looms large!" That is what I think, or he is just a coward who won’t say what he really thinks | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? " I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He is British No he’s not. He is definitely British , Not the correct type of British for some people. Not to be the British prime minister. Seb, if I were to be in the position that Sunak or Mourdant now finds themselves would I be the 'correct type'? Born in Liverpool of Irish and Welsh lineage.. I'm of Irish and English heritage... Complete Heinz 57 here... French/Jewish, Portuguese, Scottish, English. Born here and consider myself British but wonder what Seb would think? I'm probably about three quarters English heritage but don't consider myself British in the slightest. Knuckle draggers often want me in their club when they call me British*. I'd disagree * I'm not saying all British people are knuckle draggers... Just that the idea that I'm British is a particularly stupid argument made by rather stupid people. You were born in Oz so you’re an Aussie. Quite why you want to be here these last 6 years or so I have no idea! Most welcome of course! Seb’s gone quiet! It’s almost as if he thinks he is edgy by dropping into threads, dropping controversial opinion hand grenades, then bogging off chuckling at our outrage! That or the lure of the 19th hole looms large! That is what I think, or he is just a coward who won’t say what he really thinks "Change the tune fella. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister." How do you know that he doesn't have a commitment? I'm sure everyone wants what's best for their family. Should we bar anyone with means to emigrate from politics? Or only certain people? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister." Can you explain why you keep stating that Sunak isn’t British? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. Can you explain why you keep stating that Sunak isn’t British? " Why is someone who has a British passport - anyone - not British? Having a British passport means you're a British citizen. Unless I'm missing something. Is there a super secret entrance to being British? We should probably know its criteria so we can vet our politicians and public servants effectively | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. Can you explain why you keep stating that Sunak isn’t British? Why is someone who has a British passport - anyone - not British? Having a British passport means you're a British citizen. Unless I'm missing something. Is there a super secret entrance to being British? We should probably know its criteria so we can vet our politicians and public servants effectively " Hopefully Seb will have the courage of his convictions and tell us why he thinks that Sunak isn’t British | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. Can you explain why you keep stating that Sunak isn’t British? Why is someone who has a British passport - anyone - not British? Having a British passport means you're a British citizen. Unless I'm missing something. Is there a super secret entrance to being British? We should probably know its criteria so we can vet our politicians and public servants effectively Hopefully Seb will have the courage of his convictions and tell us why he thinks that Sunak isn’t British " I've yet to see a good definition - from anywhere - about what is or isn't British. Apart from "has a British passport". That's the only one that isn't so vague as to boil down to "we don't like it or we do like it". | |||
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"Is prime minister.." Congratulations to Sunak. | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country " Na, he has his foibles as we all do but he's not Pat or others on here.. Broad church and all that .. | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country " The Tory in fighting is going to be epic | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Congratulations to Sunak." General Election now..  | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Congratulations to Sunak." Commiserations to Britain. | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country Na, he has his foibles as we all do but he's not Pat or others on here.. Broad church and all that .." He definitely isn’t Pat, I wonder when we will hear from him | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Congratulations to Sunak. General Election now.. "The Tories won't allow it. So at least this will be entertaining. Sunak, the most experienced and competent among the candidates presented, doesn't count because umm umm umm umm Labour are totes icky Brexit squirrel look over there | |||
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"Well its looking like he will become the Next PM. Thoughts?" I wonder if Johnson would have pulled out of the contest if Penny had pulled out first….. | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country Na, he has his foibles as we all do but he's not Pat or others on here.. Broad church and all that .. He definitely isn’t Pat, I wonder when we will hear from him "Well he's less than keen on Sunak so maybe once he's finished spitting feathers he might once again have another change of heart and wax lyrically about how well the Tories are doing.. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. Can you explain why you keep stating that Sunak isn’t British? Why is someone who has a British passport - anyone - not British? Having a British passport means you're a British citizen. Unless I'm missing something. Is there a super secret entrance to being British? We should probably know its criteria so we can vet our politicians and public servants effectively Hopefully Seb will have the courage of his convictions and tell us why he thinks that Sunak isn’t British " Scroll back, I have. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. Can you explain why you keep stating that Sunak isn’t British? Why is someone who has a British passport - anyone - not British? Having a British passport means you're a British citizen. Unless I'm missing something. Is there a super secret entrance to being British? We should probably know its criteria so we can vet our politicians and public servants effectively Hopefully Seb will have the courage of his convictions and tell us why he thinks that Sunak isn’t British Scroll back, I have." I have, you didn’t , he is British, and now PM | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Congratulations to Sunak. General Election now..
The Tories won't allow it. So at least this will be entertaining.
Sunak, the most experienced and competent among the candidates presented, doesn't count because umm umm umm umm Labour are totes icky Brexit squirrel look over there"True, no party would in their current position.. Wonder if truss endorsed him after saying he was shit as a chancellor.. | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country " I’ll glue myself to roads and throw food at ancient works of art. On my way to Manchester now. | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country I’ll glue myself to roads and throw food at ancient works of art. On my way to Manchester now. " Why? | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country I’ll glue myself to roads and throw food at ancient works of art. On my way to Manchester now. " Go right ahead. I support the right to protest | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country I’ll glue myself to roads and throw food at ancient works of art. On my way to Manchester now. " Stop Rishi? Bit late but you can join Labour to make a proper commitment..  | |||
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"Tory party myers didn't want him last month and they don't want him now. A significant amount of MPs don't want him. Just more chaos" I mean yeah it's shit but also it's vaguely entertaining. Glass half full, yeah? | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country I’ll glue myself to roads and throw food at ancient works of art. On my way to Manchester now. Stop Rishi? Bit late but you can join Labour to make a proper commitment.. "Let’s hope he proves me wrong, he unites his party and the country and gets the country back on track. Onwards and upwards! | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country I’ll glue myself to roads and throw food at ancient works of art. On my way to Manchester now. Stop Rishi? Bit late but you can join Labour to make a proper commitment..
Let’s hope he proves me wrong, he unites his party and the country and gets the country back on track.
Onwards and upwards! "Regardless, you claimed Sunak was NOT British. You have not explained why someone who was born in Britain isn’t British. You have to explain that. You did start to talk about his future loyalties and all that, and early doors I backed that up based on the Green Card and wife’s claimed non-dom status BUT that does not mean he isn’t British. Really isn’t that hard Seb. If you make a statement then back it up not start talking about something different! | |||
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"Tory party myers didn't want him last month and they don't want him now. A significant amount of MPs don't want him. Just more chaos I mean yeah it's shit but also it's vaguely entertaining. Glass half full, yeah?" Could be worse, could be Boris again .. | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country I’ll glue myself to roads and throw food at ancient works of art. On my way to Manchester now. Stop Rishi? Bit late but you can join Labour to make a proper commitment..
Let’s hope he proves me wrong, he unites his party and the country and gets the country back on track.
Onwards and upwards! "Even if he's not British? Hmm. | |||
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"Tory party myers didn't want him last month and they don't want him now. A significant amount of MPs don't want him. Just more chaos I mean yeah it's shit but also it's vaguely entertaining. Glass half full, yeah? Could be worse, could be Boris again .." Yeah, that'd be like... The first Adam Sandler film was cringe funny but this is the tenth in a marathon, please shoot me | |||
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"Is prime minister.. Seb will have to leave the country I’ll glue myself to roads and throw food at ancient works of art. On my way to Manchester now. Stop Rishi? Bit late but you can join Labour to make a proper commitment..
Let’s hope he proves me wrong, he unites his party and the country and gets the country back on track.
Onwards and upwards! "There's more chance of Liz Truss being made head public speaker of Global public speaking plc than anyone uniting the Tories.. Many hate him for doing the clown in the back, many others hate him for his economic performance as chancellor.. It will carry on disintegrating till the next GE when it will be out on its arse.. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 24/10/22 14:18:06] Are you claiming he must be British as he was born here? " That and his British Citizenship. It is how it works. Why are you saying he isn’t British? What is he in your eyes? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 24/10/22 14:18:06] Are you claiming he must be British as he was born here? " The UK government would seem to imply so. https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-born-uk "You’re automatically a British citizen if you were born in the UK before 1 January 1983, unless: your father was a diplomat working for a non-UK country your father was ‘an enemy alien in occupation’ and you were born in the Channel Islands during World War 2" ... Sunak is British. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 24/10/22 14:18:06] Are you claiming he must be British as he was born here? " No, he is British because he is a British citizen and has a British passport, what makes you British but Sunak not? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 24/10/22 14:18:06] Are you claiming he must be British as he was born here? " That's what the law says yes.. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 24/10/22 14:18:06] Are you claiming he must be British as he was born here? No, he is British because he is a British citizen and has a British passport, what makes you British but Sunak not? " The more detailed arguments about what is and isn't British usually seem to eventually get to bad people aren't British because *handwaving*. I'm sure some of the people at his majesty's pleasure for horrific shit have ancestry back to the Angles, Celts, etc, if the records existed. But I suppose they don't count because *handwaving*. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 24/10/22 14:18:06] Are you claiming he must be British as he was born here? " And Seb, the lovely Tory party will grant you fast track citizenship if you bung them £150k as a donation.. #otherwaystobeBritishotherthanbybirthright.. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 24/10/22 14:18:06] Are you claiming he must be British as he was born here? No, he is British because he is a British citizen and has a British passport, what makes you British but Sunak not? The more detailed arguments about what is and isn't British usually seem to eventually get to bad people aren't British because *handwaving*. I'm sure some of the people at his majesty's pleasure for horrific shit have ancestry back to the Angles, Celts, etc, if the records existed. But I suppose they don't count because *handwaving*." Indeed, he is definitely British, anyone suggesting otherwise is either racist or confused | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 24/10/22 14:18:06] Are you claiming he must be British as he was born here? No, he is British because he is a British citizen and has a British passport, what makes you British but Sunak not? " He's definitely British as he was born in Southampton and last time I checked that was definitely in the United Kingdom. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 24/10/22 14:18:06] Are you claiming he must be British as he was born here? And Seb, the lovely Tory party will grant you fast track citizenship if you bung them £150k as a donation.. #otherwaystobeBritishotherthanbybirthright.." I had a path via a relative, but they didn't take it. (it would have been birth for me but not for them) | |||
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"Thst awkward moment when you claim a man who is born in Britain, educated in Britain, worked in Britain and is an MP in Britain isn't British but you can't explain why he isn't... Priceless " | |||
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"Thst awkward moment when you claim a man who is born in Britain, educated in Britain, worked in Britain and is an MP in Britain isn't British but you can't explain why he isn't... Priceless " Exactly he was born in the same hospital as my niece and nephew Would be interesting if people claimed they were not British but then I guess for some they have the right skin color as to not to be questioned. | |||
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"Thst awkward moment when you claim a man who is born in Britain, educated in Britain, worked in Britain and is an MP in Britain isn't British but you can't explain why he isn't... Priceless " Seb could just admit he was mistaken or explain what he meant instead of doubling down or going quiet! Still a bizarre thing to say! | |||
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"Maybe having a Green Card turns you American ? " Despite the fact it's not citizenship! I have ILR, which is roughly the equivalent of a green card. Am I British? Absolutely not. If I applied for British citizenship I might become British. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister." So you're basing your conclusions based on the tiny percentage of immigrants or descendants of immigrants you've come across in your life? You know there's people that exist outside of your own community, right? Stereotyping, or "they're all the same"-ing, is also a form of that word you don't like. | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. So you're basing your conclusions based on the tiny percentage of immigrants or descendants of immigrants you've come across in your life? You know there's people that exist outside of your own community, right? Stereotyping, or "they're all the same"-ing, is also a form of that word you don't like. " We're all the same, yeah? Will you tie me kangaroo down sport? I gotta put another shrimp on the barbie | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. Can you explain why you keep stating that Sunak isn’t British? Why is someone who has a British passport - anyone - not British? Having a British passport means you're a British citizen. Unless I'm missing something. Is there a super secret entrance to being British? We should probably know its criteria so we can vet our politicians and public servants effectively Hopefully Seb will have the courage of his convictions and tell us why he thinks that Sunak isn’t British Scroll back, I have." I think it’s interesting you call him an economic nomad… his net worth is roughly twice that of our new king! Bit harsh to call someone born in Southampton and went to Winchester not British… but I am sure you speak for a fair chunk of the Conservative Party even though boris was born in New York! | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. Can you explain why you keep stating that Sunak isn’t British? Why is someone who has a British passport - anyone - not British? Having a British passport means you're a British citizen. Unless I'm missing something. Is there a super secret entrance to being British? We should probably know its criteria so we can vet our politicians and public servants effectively Hopefully Seb will have the courage of his convictions and tell us why he thinks that Sunak isn’t British Scroll back, I have. I think it’s interesting you call him an economic nomad… his net worth is roughly twice that of our new king! Bit harsh to call someone born in Southampton and went to Winchester not British… but I am sure you speak for a fair chunk of the Conservative Party even though boris was born in New York! " Yeah... | |||
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"Come on Seb you are so close to saying what you know you want to say. Strength of your convictions mate. Come on just say what is on your mind!" Don’t worry…..We all know what he implied….. 
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"Hmm...let's see.. - ex Goldman Sachs banker and City of London Acolyte - check - defender of austerity and punishing the middle class instead of the FIRE sector of the economy - check - won't rock the boat re British foreign policy - check - won't advocate for end of Russian sanctions that have greatly contributed to the current mess - check Yep. I can see why the establishment would like him "Too right he won't advocate the end of Russian sanctions I am not a conservative however absolutely we need to sanction Russia. | |||
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"Come on Seb you are so close to saying what you know you want to say. Strength of your convictions mate. Come on just say what is on your mind! Don’t worry…..We all know what he implied…..
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That's self identification tho (Segway here to trans). Doesn't count towards the statement tho Seb. You can't "out" him.
Next is whether his actions stop from being British in heart, if not in name.
Does everyine with a green card or similar stop being British ? Does anyone with a spouse who isn't British stop being British ? Or is it only spouses who pay as much tax as they can to HMG.
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"CBA to quote Okay there are two things going on with Sebs POV. I get where his friends are coming from. My mum is English and my dad is Welsh, which means I get to support two teams. Wales, and whoever is playing England.
That's self identification tho (Segway here to trans). Doesn't count towards the statement tho Seb. You can't "out" him.
Next is whether his actions stop from being British in heart, if not in name.
Does everyine with a green card or similar stop being British ? Does anyone with a spouse who isn't British stop being British ? Or is it only spouses who pay as much tax as they can to HMG.
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"Gonna go in a different direction now. In the car was listening to LBC and a lot of British Asians are cautiously happy to have the first British Asian PM although a fair few were not happy this was not as a result of a GE as lacks legitimacy. An angle I thought of listening to the callers was that while it is a great thing in a multi-cultural society like Britain to have the first British Asian PM, I suspect, unless there is an economic miracle, history will not be kind and Sunak will be seen as a failure. Which is a shame (I am putting politics aside here for a moment). Similarly our three female PMs: Thatcher = marmite with many people passionately hating her and seeing a very negative legacy. May = ineffective, unable to make decisions, weak. Truss = utterly useless and out of her depth by some margin. Just me rambling!" It really is a double edged sword with minorities of any stripe, I think. | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. " Shhhhh! Don’t burst their strange little bubble! | |||
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"Gonna go in a different direction now. In the car was listening to LBC and a lot of British Asians are cautiously happy to have the first British Asian PM although a fair few were not happy this was not as a result of a GE as lacks legitimacy. An angle I thought of listening to the callers was that while it is a great thing in a multi-cultural society like Britain to have the first British Asian PM, I suspect, unless there is an economic miracle, history will not be kind and Sunak will be seen as a failure. Which is a shame (I am putting politics aside here for a moment). Similarly our three female PMs: Thatcher = marmite with many people passionately hating her and seeing a very negative legacy. May = ineffective, unable to make decisions, weak. Truss = utterly useless and out of her depth by some margin. Just me rambling! It really is a double edged sword with minorities of any stripe, I think." Too right.. we have only had one black chancellor.. and with the mess he made we probably won’t get another for 200 years!!!!
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"Gonna go in a different direction now. In the car was listening to LBC and a lot of British Asians are cautiously happy to have the first British Asian PM although a fair few were not happy this was not as a result of a GE as lacks legitimacy. An angle I thought of listening to the callers was that while it is a great thing in a multi-cultural society like Britain to have the first British Asian PM, I suspect, unless there is an economic miracle, history will not be kind and Sunak will be seen as a failure. Which is a shame (I am putting politics aside here for a moment). Similarly our three female PMs: Thatcher = marmite with many people passionately hating her and seeing a very negative legacy. May = ineffective, unable to make decisions, weak. Truss = utterly useless and out of her depth by some margin. Just me rambling! It really is a double edged sword with minorities of any stripe, I think. Too right.. we have only had one black chancellor.. and with the mess he made we probably won’t get another for 200 years!!!!
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. Shhhhh! Don’t burst their strange little bubble!" I just find it appalling that people are questioning this simply based on the color of somebody's skin. Rishi he was born in the same hospital as my niece and nephew and I have actually met his mother several times as she was the pharmacist at my local pharmacy. | |||
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"Gonna go in a different direction now. In the car was listening to LBC and a lot of British Asians are cautiously happy to have the first British Asian PM although a fair few were not happy this was not as a result of a GE as lacks legitimacy. An angle I thought of listening to the callers was that while it is a great thing in a multi-cultural society like Britain to have the first British Asian PM, I suspect, unless there is an economic miracle, history will not be kind and Sunak will be seen as a failure. Which is a shame (I am putting politics aside here for a moment). Similarly our three female PMs: Thatcher = marmite with many people passionately hating her and seeing a very negative legacy. May = ineffective, unable to make decisions, weak. Truss = utterly useless and out of her depth by some margin. Just me rambling! It really is a double edged sword with minorities of any stripe, I think. Too right.. we have only had one black chancellor.. and with the mess he made we probably won’t get another for 200 years!!!!
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"Gonna go in a different direction now. In the car was listening to LBC and a lot of British Asians are cautiously happy to have the first British Asian PM although a fair few were not happy this was not as a result of a GE as lacks legitimacy. An angle I thought of listening to the callers was that while it is a great thing in a multi-cultural society like Britain to have the first British Asian PM, I suspect, unless there is an economic miracle, history will not be kind and Sunak will be seen as a failure. Which is a shame (I am putting politics aside here for a moment). Similarly our three female PMs: Thatcher = marmite with many people passionately hating her and seeing a very negative legacy. May = ineffective, unable to make decisions, weak. Truss = utterly useless and out of her depth by some margin. Just me rambling! It really is a double edged sword with minorities of any stripe, I think. Too right.. we have only had one black chancellor.. and with the mess he made we probably won’t get another for 200 years!!!!
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. Shhhhh! Don’t burst their strange little bubble! I just find it appalling that people are questioning this simply based on the color of somebody's skin. Rishi he was born in the same hospital as my niece and nephew and I have actually met his mother several times as she was the pharmacist at my local pharmacy. " You’re not alone! | |||
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"Gonna go in a different direction now. In the car was listening to LBC and a lot of British Asians are cautiously happy to have the first British Asian PM although a fair few were not happy this was not as a result of a GE as lacks legitimacy. An angle I thought of listening to the callers was that while it is a great thing in a multi-cultural society like Britain to have the first British Asian PM, I suspect, unless there is an economic miracle, history will not be kind and Sunak will be seen as a failure. Which is a shame (I am putting politics aside here for a moment). Similarly our three female PMs: Thatcher = marmite with many people passionately hating her and seeing a very negative legacy. May = ineffective, unable to make decisions, weak. Truss = utterly useless and out of her depth by some margin. Just me rambling! It really is a double edged sword with minorities of any stripe, I think. Too right.. we have only had one black chancellor.. and with the mess he made we probably won’t get another for 200 years!!!!
I joke because it’s kwasi!!!
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"Gonna go in a different direction now. In the car was listening to LBC and a lot of British Asians are cautiously happy to have the first British Asian PM although a fair few were not happy this was not as a result of a GE as lacks legitimacy. An angle I thought of listening to the callers was that while it is a great thing in a multi-cultural society like Britain to have the first British Asian PM, I suspect, unless there is an economic miracle, history will not be kind and Sunak will be seen as a failure. Which is a shame (I am putting politics aside here for a moment). Similarly our three female PMs: Thatcher = marmite with many people passionately hating her and seeing a very negative legacy. May = ineffective, unable to make decisions, weak. Truss = utterly useless and out of her depth by some margin. Just me rambling! It really is a double edged sword with minorities of any stripe, I think. Too right.. we have only had one black chancellor.. and with the mess he made we probably won’t get another for 200 years!!!!
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"Come on Seb you are so close to saying what you know you want to say. Strength of your convictions mate. Come on just say what is on your mind! Don’t worry…..We all know what he implied…..
We picked up what he was putting down if you catch the lingo!!!
"The thing is, he thinks he's being clever with all the anti immigration posts. A while back he was lauding the contributions of the asian community who had been expelled from Kenya and Uganda and had set up home in Britain. Now someone who from that community has reached the highest office in the country, he shows his true colours once more. Like I've said before there are people in society and therefore obviously on fab, who feel a sense of superiority over others based solely on either their the colour of their skin, ethnicity, nationality, gender or sexuality. Or all them. Some are clear about it. But some pretend they are all inclusive but they let the masks slip occasionally. Or often in this case. | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. Shhhhh! Don’t burst their strange little bubble! I just find it appalling that people are questioning this simply based on the color of somebody's skin. Rishi he was born in the same hospital as my niece and nephew and I have actually met his mother several times as she was the pharmacist at my local pharmacy. " Could be worse, they could be questioning whether he was born here and asking to see the birth certificate. | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. " The thing is, if we had the same rule has America, that the leader of the country had to be born here. Boris would be ineligible. Wouldn't it be great if Boris joined the Democrats and the next American election was Boris v Trump. Now that would top everything. | |||
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"Come on Seb you are so close to saying what you know you want to say. Strength of your convictions mate. Come on just say what is on your mind! Don’t worry…..We all know what he implied…..
We picked up what he was putting down if you catch the lingo!!!
The thing is, he thinks he's being clever with all the anti immigration posts. A while back he was lauding the contributions of the asian community who had been expelled from Kenya and Uganda and had set up home in Britain. Now someone who from that community has reached the highest office in the country, he shows his true colours once more.
Like I've said before there are people in society and therefore obviously on fab, who feel a sense of superiority over others based solely on either their the colour of their skin, ethnicity, nationality, gender or sexuality. Or all them. Some are clear about it. But some pretend they are all inclusive but they let the masks slip occasionally. Or often in this case."Some offensive assumptions there. | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. Shhhhh! Don’t burst their strange little bubble! I just find it appalling that people are questioning this simply based on the color of somebody's skin. Rishi he was born in the same hospital as my niece and nephew and I have actually met his mother several times as she was the pharmacist at my local pharmacy. " Who questioned his colour? | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. Shhhhh! Don’t burst their strange little bubble! I just find it appalling that people are questioning this simply based on the color of somebody's skin. Rishi he was born in the same hospital as my niece and nephew and I have actually met his mother several times as she was the pharmacist at my local pharmacy. Could be worse, they could be questioning whether he was born here and asking to see the birth certificate. " Don't give them ideas | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. Shhhhh! Don’t burst their strange little bubble! I just find it appalling that people are questioning this simply based on the color of somebody's skin. Rishi he was born in the same hospital as my niece and nephew and I have actually met his mother several times as she was the pharmacist at my local pharmacy. Who questioned his colour? " I just find it interesting you suggested he wasn't British but didn't do the same with Boris Johnson. Would you care to tell us what made you think he wasn't British then. | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. The thing is, if we had the same rule has America, that the leader of the country had to be born here. Boris would be ineligible. Wouldn't it be great if Boris joined the Democrats and the next American election was Boris v Trump. Now that would top everything. " My goodness that is an absolutely terrifying thought | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. The thing is, if we had the same rule has America, that the leader of the country had to be born here. Boris would be ineligible. Wouldn't it be great if Boris joined the Democrats and the next American election was Boris v Trump. Now that would top everything. " Leave Boris there  | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. Shhhhh! Don’t burst their strange little bubble! I just find it appalling that people are questioning this simply based on the color of somebody's skin. Rishi he was born in the same hospital as my niece and nephew and I have actually met his mother several times as she was the pharmacist at my local pharmacy. Who questioned his colour? " Do you still think that Sunak isn’t British? | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. Shhhhh! Don’t burst their strange little bubble! I just find it appalling that people are questioning this simply based on the color of somebody's skin. Rishi he was born in the same hospital as my niece and nephew and I have actually met his mother several times as she was the pharmacist at my local pharmacy. Who questioned his colour? I just find it interesting you suggested he wasn't British but didn't do the same with Boris Johnson. Would you care to tell us what made you think he wasn't British then. " Is Boris British? On the thinking of some on here he must be American? | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. Shhhhh! Don’t burst their strange little bubble! I just find it appalling that people are questioning this simply based on the color of somebody's skin. Rishi he was born in the same hospital as my niece and nephew and I have actually met his mother several times as she was the pharmacist at my local pharmacy. Who questioned his colour? I just find it interesting you suggested he wasn't British but didn't do the same with Boris Johnson. Would you care to tell us what made you think he wasn't British then. Is Boris British? On the thinking of some on here he must be American? " He was American until he renounced his citizenship in 2017. | |||
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"May I also remind anybody who is questioning how British Rishi Sunak is, Boris Johnson was born in New York and his grandfather was Turkish but nobody has questioned how British he is have they. Shhhhh! Don’t burst their strange little bubble! I just find it appalling that people are questioning this simply based on the color of somebody's skin. Rishi he was born in the same hospital as my niece and nephew and I have actually met his mother several times as she was the pharmacist at my local pharmacy. Who questioned his colour? I just find it interesting you suggested he wasn't British but didn't do the same with Boris Johnson. Would you care to tell us what made you think he wasn't British then. Is Boris British? On the thinking of some on here he must be American? " Do you think that Boris is British | |||
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"Hmmm he has a lovely voting record. Nice guy! Wife with dodgy tax affairs who owned companies that received £millions in Covid support but she then closed down so nothing needed paying back. Total conflict of interest with his wife/father-in-law owning Infosys who are benefitting hugely from the IR35 decimation of freelancing in UK. Oh and a company that continued trading in Russia after all the British companies were told not to (yes it is an Indian company but then don’t get into politics in the UK if there is conflict of interest). As Chancellor, under his watch, an “accounting error” led to the UK paying another £20bn in interest payments on Govt debt. His ill conceived Covid support was open to fraud and HMRC have had to write off over £4bn. Safe pair of hands with the economy though! Not forgetting his banking job before politics and how he was one of the bankers that helped drag us into the 2008 financial crisis. The thing is, when Johnson and Truss (and their respective Cabinets') are sooooo useless, it makes Sunak look passably competent! In fairness, all the Tories have horrendous voting records." Indeed. None of them are fit to govern, due to their utter lack of empathy for the vast majority of their fellow citizens. Their humanity is rudimentary at best. Now that he's getting the job, it will be interesting to see how many fucking deadbeats he will have to have in his Cabinet - obviously it'll be fewer than Johnson and Truss had - in order to appease the fuckwits and/or racists who chose Liz Truss over him last time out. Thank fuck they've not been asked this time. | |||
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"“The party I love and the country that I owe so much too”. Interesting " Maybe he was talking about the tax he ought to have paid? | |||
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"“The party I love and the country that I owe so much too”. Interesting Maybe he was talking about the tax he ought to have paid?" Him and his wife have paid every penny of tax in this country they were obliged to pay. His wife now pays tax in this country that she doesn't have to, to take off the political pressure from her husband. | |||
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"Come on Seb you are so close to saying what you know you want to say. Strength of your convictions mate. Come on just say what is on your mind! Don’t worry…..We all know what he implied…..
We picked up what he was putting down if you catch the lingo!!!
The thing is, he thinks he's being clever with all the anti immigration posts. A while back he was lauding the contributions of the asian community who had been expelled from Kenya and Uganda and had set up home in Britain. Now someone who from that community has reached the highest office in the country, he shows his true colours once more.
Like I've said before there are people in society and therefore obviously on fab, who feel a sense of superiority over others based solely on either their the colour of their skin, ethnicity, nationality, gender or sexuality. Or all them. Some are clear about it. But some pretend they are all inclusive but they let the masks slip occasionally. Or often in this case.
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. So you're basing your conclusions based on the tiny percentage of immigrants or descendants of immigrants you've come across in your life? You know there's people that exist outside of your own community, right? Stereotyping, or "they're all the same"-ing, is also a form of that word you don't like. " What are you talking about? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. So you're basing your conclusions based on the tiny percentage of immigrants or descendants of immigrants you've come across in your life? You know there's people that exist outside of your own community, right? Stereotyping, or "they're all the same"-ing, is also a form of that word you don't like. What are you talking about? " Keep making inflammatory statements then refuse to back them up. Why is that? | |||
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"“The party I love and the country that I owe so much too”. Interesting Maybe he was talking about the tax he ought to have paid? Him and his wife have paid every penny of tax in this country they were obliged to pay. His wife now pays tax in this country that she doesn't have to, to take off the political pressure from her husband. " Yeah. Obliged. Required would be better. And good on her. | |||
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"“The party I love and the country that I owe so much too”. Interesting Maybe he was talking about the tax he ought to have paid? Him and his wife have paid every penny of tax in this country they were obliged to pay. His wife now pays tax in this country that she doesn't have to, to take off the political pressure from her husband. Yeah. Obliged. Required would be better. And good on her." In fairness most of us wouldn't pay tax if we didn't have to. | |||
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"“The party I love and the country that I owe so much too”. Interesting Maybe he was talking about the tax he ought to have paid? Him and his wife have paid every penny of tax in this country they were obliged to pay. His wife now pays tax in this country that she doesn't have to, to take off the political pressure from her husband. Yeah. Obliged. Required would be better. And good on her. In fairness most of us wouldn't pay tax if we didn't have to. " Indeed - but we do have to; and the wealthier you are, in the UK (and USA) the more opportunities there are to avoid paying any more than you have to. Not an option open to most of the rest of us. You have to wonder how much more money would be available to fund the NHS, social care, defence, etc if there were no tax loopholes. Maybe we'll find out if Rishi gets Jeremy to close a few? Only kidding. LOL | |||
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"Plausible deniability. https://youtu.be/uRpt4a6H99c I will repeat what I said earlier on this thread, if you think Sunak isn’t British than you are either confused or a racist " I am of course neither. | |||
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"Come on Seb you are so close to saying what you know you want to say. Strength of your convictions mate. Come on just say what is on your mind! Don’t worry…..We all know what he implied…..
We picked up what he was putting down if you catch the lingo!!!
The thing is, he thinks he's being clever with all the anti immigration posts. A while back he was lauding the contributions of the asian community who had been expelled from Kenya and Uganda and had set up home in Britain. Now someone who from that community has reached the highest office in the country, he shows his true colours once more.
Like I've said before there are people in society and therefore obviously on fab, who feel a sense of superiority over others based solely on either their the colour of their skin, ethnicity, nationality, gender or sexuality. Or all them. Some are clear about it. But some pretend they are all inclusive but they let the masks slip occasionally. Or often in this case."I have never posted an anti immigration post. | |||
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"Plausible deniability. https://youtu.be/uRpt4a6H99c I will repeat what I said earlier on this thread, if you think Sunak isn’t British than you are either confused or a racist I am of course neither. " Your definitely one or the other, maybe both? Sunak is definitely British | |||
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"Plausible deniability. https://youtu.be/uRpt4a6H99c I will repeat what I said earlier on this thread, if you think Sunak isn’t British than you are either confused or a racist I am of course neither. " You've not given a clear rationale as to why you think that Sunak is not British, particularly given that the law shows that he quite clearly is. | |||
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"Plausible deniability. https://youtu.be/uRpt4a6H99c I will repeat what I said earlier on this thread, if you think Sunak isn’t British than you are either confused or a racist I am of course neither. " you are working to a different definition tho Seb. And haven't yet put down firm lines when someone with a British passport can be called non British by an outsider (eh not thru self identification) My guess is you fear your definition won't stand up to scrutiny (eg Boris will fall unde it) and so you will be accused of racism. I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and say you've been taken on the tide of.public opinion. Even at the time RS got a smiling for his green card whereas noone mentioned BJs. | |||
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"Plausible deniability. https://youtu.be/uRpt4a6H99c I will repeat what I said earlier on this thread, if you think Sunak isn’t British than you are either confused or a racist I am of course neither. You've not given a clear rationale as to why you think that Sunak is not British, particularly given that the law shows that he quite clearly is." He has friends in North London who say they aren’t British? So therefore Sunak isn’t British, or something similar | |||
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"Come on Seb you are so close to saying what you know you want to say. Strength of your convictions mate. Come on just say what is on your mind! Don’t worry…..We all know what he implied…..
We picked up what he was putting down if you catch the lingo!!!
The thing is, he thinks he's being clever with all the anti immigration posts. A while back he was lauding the contributions of the asian community who had been expelled from Kenya and Uganda and had set up home in Britain. Now someone who from that community has reached the highest office in the country, he shows his true colours once more.
Like I've said before there are people in society and therefore obviously on fab, who feel a sense of superiority over others based solely on either their the colour of their skin, ethnicity, nationality, gender or sexuality. Or all them. Some are clear about it. But some pretend they are all inclusive but they let the masks slip occasionally. Or often in this case.
Some offensive assumptions there. "So you ARE still here and ARE still reading this thread so ANSWER the question...why did you say Rishi Sunak isn’t British? | |||
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"Plausible deniability. https://youtu.be/uRpt4a6H99c I will repeat what I said earlier on this thread, if you think Sunak isn’t British than you are either confused or a racist I am of course neither. You've not given a clear rationale as to why you think that Sunak is not British, particularly given that the law shows that he quite clearly is. He has friends in North London who say they aren’t British? So therefore Sunak isn’t British, or something similar " Another excellent contribution | |||
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"Come on Seb you are so close to saying what you know you want to say. Strength of your convictions mate. Come on just say what is on your mind! Don’t worry…..We all know what he implied…..
We picked up what he was putting down if you catch the lingo!!!
The thing is, he thinks he's being clever with all the anti immigration posts. A while back he was lauding the contributions of the asian community who had been expelled from Kenya and Uganda and had set up home in Britain. Now someone who from that community has reached the highest office in the country, he shows his true colours once more.
Like I've said before there are people in society and therefore obviously on fab, who feel a sense of superiority over others based solely on either their the colour of their skin, ethnicity, nationality, gender or sexuality. Or all them. Some are clear about it. But some pretend they are all inclusive but they let the masks slip occasionally. Or often in this case.
Some offensive assumptions there.
So you ARE still here and ARE still reading this thread so ANSWER the question...why did you say Rishi Sunak isn’t British?"Easy on the CAPS there fella. I thought I had explained earlier? | |||
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"I have no interest in his religion or ethnicity. I would question ( in fact, doubt) his commitment to the UK. He won’t see out his days here will he? Can’t imagine him retired in the shires writing letters to the Times. Why do you think he has less commitment to this country than any other Tory? Because he’s not British perhaps? And from a family of international financial migrants. They move to where best suits their interests at the time. Before the usual suspects shout ‘racist’, I know and work with a number of wealthy Indians in North London. They care more about India, and Dubai where they own property than they do about the UK. He was born in Southampton. Why is he less British than anyone else born in Southampton? How many generations must one live in the UK before one is considered British? Are all people who invest overseas foreign and/or untrustworthy? Who said he’s ‘untrustworthy’? Jesus was born in a stable, that doesn’t make him a horse. Crumbs,I didn't think there was anyone still alive in the UK who said things like that anymore. I used to find Bernard Manning funny but accept that that sort of sentiment just isn't acceptable, even in jest these days.. The horse/ JC comment is unbelievable. A troll I guess? Seb is a confused man, don’t judge him to harshly No confusion here. I'm confused... Do you have a different definition Seb? Because without clarifying it certainly comes across as the adjective you don't like being called! I suspect it's something to do with his future intentions ... But who knows? I’m sure he’s a nice guy but he doesn’t have an emotional attachment or committed future to the UK. He and his family would be off like a shot to any other country that suits them better at any given time. My friends in north London laugh at the idea of being considered British, they describe themselves as ‘Kenyan Indian’ ‘Ugandan Indian’ . Some were born here, others abroad but grew up here. They all have British passports. I’ve no problem with anyone irrespective of race or colour, going where is best for them or their family, I simply feel that economic nomads are not the right material to be the British prime minister. So you're basing your conclusions based on the tiny percentage of immigrants or descendants of immigrants you've come across in your life? You know there's people that exist outside of your own community, right? Stereotyping, or "they're all the same"-ing, is also a form of that word you don't like. What are you talking about? " What are YOU talking about? | |||
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"“The party I love and the country that I owe so much too”. Interesting Maybe he was talking about the tax he ought to have paid? Him and his wife have paid every penny of tax in this country they were obliged to pay. His wife now pays tax in this country that she doesn't have to, to take off the political pressure from her husband. " Legally yes. Morally no. Her claim to non-dom status was very very suspect and were it not for the rule that allows the very wealthy to pay an annual £30k to circumvent an investigation into their overseas earnings, then she would likely have liable for c.£20m in tax in the UK. There is no moral high ground with the Sunaks. She also doesn’t pay tax in India because her shareholding in Infosys us registered in Mauritius which is a tax haven. She is a major tax avoider and at best a borderline tax evader. Which is not a good look for the wife of the Chancellor hence the backing down when she was found out. | |||
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"Come on Seb you are so close to saying what you know you want to say. Strength of your convictions mate. Come on just say what is on your mind! Don’t worry…..We all know what he implied…..
We picked up what he was putting down if you catch the lingo!!!
"100%. Reading through this thread and the fact that we have changed PM AGAIN sums up exactly where we are as a nation. November 5th soon...we should finish what Guy started! | |||
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