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Who knows until it happens? I always thought it was refreshing that Tony Blair's admirable forgiveness qualities enabled Peter Mandelson to return a number of times after catastrophic sleaze scandal after another. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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Poor wittle Bowis has weally weally changed honest!
Except while Parliament was in session and MPs are still supposed to be working for their constituents, the self-serving corrupt asshole was on yet another holiday (wonder who paid for this one!) only to rush back to the UK on the chance he could get back his golden meal ticket. |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?"
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? |
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"Poor wittle Bowis has weally weally changed honest!
Except while Parliament was in session and MPs are still supposed to be working for their constituents, the self-serving corrupt asshole was on yet another holiday (wonder who paid for this one!) only to rush back to the UK on the chance he could get back his golden meal ticket."
Boris hasn't voted in parliament since July yet he is still claiming full salary |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? "
I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? "
Who is saying that was ok? Whataboutism and tribalism really are pitiful! |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear. "
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed  |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed "
PMSL, let’s be honest, he isn’t coming back, he is struggling to get 100 MPs to back him, and if he returns the Tory party will implode, only an imbecile would want him as PM |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed "
Left wing media..?
The picture of Her Majesty the late Queen was on all the papers, the Times, Telegraph and Mail etc all rightly ripped into him for his putting two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules whilst he oversaw and participated in a culture of breaking the law at the time..
Trouble with trying to rewrite history when it's still recent is your going to be caught out..
For the record it was wrong for Mandelson to come back at that time..
Boris is still under investigation for lying to Parliament.. |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris?
Who is saying that was ok? Whataboutism and tribalism really are pitiful!"
Whataboutism is essential to remind those who believe Labour will lead us to the pure, sunlit uplands!
Whataboutism is the bedrock of fair, consistent and equal treatment in society, if you stop to think about it. If your neighbours suddenly received a 100% no strings rebate on their Council tax, 'what about' would be the amongst the first words out of your mouth down at the Town Hall. Quite rightly.
Whataboutism is always moral and appropriate yet seems to be used by the Left as a put down these days. I always see it as a sign the Left are inconveniently rankled and wished inside I hadn't reminded them of something that punctures their Tory hate balloon  |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed "
three months and two weeks.
Ah yes. Genuine contrition. And them along came Pincher and he showed he learned his lesson by being open and honest from tej outset.
Now, I suspect you may not be a profile who truely believes this.
However there are 50 MPs who are publically taking this line. They are giving no space for people to play the WUM space.
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed
Left wing media..?
The picture of Her Majesty the late Queen was on all the papers, the Times, Telegraph and Mail etc all rightly ripped into him for his putting two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules whilst he oversaw and participated in a culture of breaking the law at the time..
Trouble with trying to rewrite history when it's still recent is your going to be caught out..
For the record it was wrong for Mandelson to come back at that time..
Boris is still under investigation for lying to Parliament.."
He did not 'put two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules'
He was simply with people he'd been in meetings with all day anyway, like millions of people. |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed
Left wing media..?
The picture of Her Majesty the late Queen was on all the papers, the Times, Telegraph and Mail etc all rightly ripped into him for his putting two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules whilst he oversaw and participated in a culture of breaking the law at the time..
Trouble with trying to rewrite history when it's still recent is your going to be caught out..
For the record it was wrong for Mandelson to come back at that time..
Boris is still under investigation for lying to Parliament..
He did not 'put two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules'
He was simply with people he'd been in meetings with all day anyway, like millions of people. "
And lied about it, hence the inquiry, |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed three months and two weeks.
Ah yes. Genuine contrition. And them along came Pincher and he showed he learned his lesson by being open and honest from tej outset.
Now, I suspect you may not be a profile who truely believes this.
However there are 50 MPs who are publically taking this line. They are giving no space for people to play the WUM space.
"
WUM space?
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed
Left wing media..?
The picture of Her Majesty the late Queen was on all the papers, the Times, Telegraph and Mail etc all rightly ripped into him for his putting two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules whilst he oversaw and participated in a culture of breaking the law at the time..
Trouble with trying to rewrite history when it's still recent is your going to be caught out..
For the record it was wrong for Mandelson to come back at that time..
Boris is still under investigation for lying to Parliament..
He did not 'put two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules'
He was simply with people he'd been in meetings with all day anyway, like millions of people.
And lied about it, hence the inquiry, "
The Inquiry has not started yet, so we don't know if he knowingly lied |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed
Left wing media..?
The picture of Her Majesty the late Queen was on all the papers, the Times, Telegraph and Mail etc all rightly ripped into him for his putting two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules whilst he oversaw and participated in a culture of breaking the law at the time..
Trouble with trying to rewrite history when it's still recent is your going to be caught out..
For the record it was wrong for Mandelson to come back at that time..
Boris is still under investigation for lying to Parliament..
He did not 'put two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules'
He was simply with people he'd been in meetings with all day anyway, like millions of people.
And lied about it, hence the inquiry,
The Inquiry has not started yet, so we don't know if he knowingly lied "
Let’s wait and see then, he tells lies all the time though, but he is very good at fooling the foolish . For the sake of the country I really hope he doesn’t return, but I hope he does, he will destroy the Tories |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed three months and two weeks.
Ah yes. Genuine contrition. And them along came Pincher and he showed he learned his lesson by being open and honest from tej outset.
Now, I suspect you may not be a profile who truely believes this.
However there are 50 MPs who are publically taking this line. They are giving no space for people to play the WUM space.
"
We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed three months and two weeks.
Ah yes. Genuine contrition. And them along came Pincher and he showed he learned his lesson by being open and honest from tej outset.
Now, I suspect you may not be a profile who truely believes this.
However there are 50 MPs who are publically taking this line. They are giving no space for people to play the WUM space.
We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate "
He wasn’t up against anyone in the no confidence vote so that is irrelevant |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed
Left wing media..?
The picture of Her Majesty the late Queen was on all the papers, the Times, Telegraph and Mail etc all rightly ripped into him for his putting two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules whilst he oversaw and participated in a culture of breaking the law at the time..
Trouble with trying to rewrite history when it's still recent is your going to be caught out..
For the record it was wrong for Mandelson to come back at that time..
Boris is still under investigation for lying to Parliament..
He did not 'put two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules'
He was simply with people he'd been in meetings with all day anyway, like millions of people.
And lied about it, hence the inquiry,
The Inquiry has not started yet, so we don't know if he knowingly lied
Let’s wait and see then, he tells lies all the time though, but he is very good at fooling the foolish . For the sake of the country I really hope he doesn’t return, but I hope he does, he will destroy the Tories "
The truth is, everyone lies. While we all like to think we’re totally honest, statistically speaking we are liars. Researchers estimate the average person lies a minimum of once to twice per day. If you don’t believe me, ask yourself:
Do you ever give people compliments that aren’t genuine? Have you told someone you were doing fine when, in reality, you were tired and having a bad week?
Do you ever tell people you are busy to avoid having to speak to them or do something with them?
If you answered yes to any of those questions, then you’ve lied.
The important thing is did he knowingly lie to Parliament?
The idea that Labour politicians never lie is just totally absurd.
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
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In life everyone deserves a second chance …
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right? "
Yep, bring back Truss  |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed
Left wing media..?
The picture of Her Majesty the late Queen was on all the papers, the Times, Telegraph and Mail etc all rightly ripped into him for his putting two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules whilst he oversaw and participated in a culture of breaking the law at the time..
Trouble with trying to rewrite history when it's still recent is your going to be caught out..
For the record it was wrong for Mandelson to come back at that time..
Boris is still under investigation for lying to Parliament..
He did not 'put two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules'
He was simply with people he'd been in meetings with all day anyway, like millions of people. "
Bs, he was fined for breaking the law..
Whilst others also were and some no doubt weren't..
Fact remains he was the person at the top, who should have known the actual rules his government imposed upon the Nation.. |
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"Just seen a press release- he’s promised never to lie again.
Thoughts? "
I welcome continued contrition and a willingness to change. However, all human beings lie so it is technically a lie! The spirit of his objective is great though |
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed
Left wing media..?
The picture of Her Majesty the late Queen was on all the papers, the Times, Telegraph and Mail etc all rightly ripped into him for his putting two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules whilst he oversaw and participated in a culture of breaking the law at the time..
Trouble with trying to rewrite history when it's still recent is your going to be caught out..
For the record it was wrong for Mandelson to come back at that time..
Boris is still under investigation for lying to Parliament..
He did not 'put two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules'
He was simply with people he'd been in meetings with all day anyway, like millions of people.
And lied about it, hence the inquiry,
The Inquiry has not started yet, so we don't know if he knowingly lied
Let’s wait and see then, he tells lies all the time though, but he is very good at fooling the foolish . For the sake of the country I really hope he doesn’t return, but I hope he does, he will destroy the Tories
The truth is, everyone lies. While we all like to think we’re totally honest, statistically speaking we are liars. Researchers estimate the average person lies a minimum of once to twice per day. If you don’t believe me, ask yourself:
Do you ever give people compliments that aren’t genuine? Have you told someone you were doing fine when, in reality, you were tired and having a bad week?
Do you ever tell people you are busy to avoid having to speak to them or do something with them?
If you answered yes to any of those questions, then you’ve lied.
The important thing is did he knowingly lie to Parliament?
The idea that Labour politicians never lie is just totally absurd.
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Yep, bring back Truss "
Didn’t want her in the first place .. |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Yep, bring back Truss "
Exceptions to every rule
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Yep, bring back Truss
Didn’t want her in the first place .. "
Same. Voted for Rishi Sunak after Ben Wallace wouldn't stand last time. |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Yep, bring back Truss
Didn’t want her in the first place .. "
Ah, neither did I, |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right? "
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ?? "
He was sacked 3 months ago, not much winning there |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris?
Who is saying that was ok? Whataboutism and tribalism really are pitiful!
Whataboutism is essential to remind those who believe Labour will lead us to the pure, sunlit uplands!
Whataboutism is the bedrock of fair, consistent and equal treatment in society, if you stop to think about it. If your neighbours suddenly received a 100% no strings rebate on their Council tax, 'what about' would be the amongst the first words out of your mouth down at the Town Hall. Quite rightly.
Whataboutism is always moral and appropriate yet seems to be used by the Left as a put down these days. I always see it as a sign the Left are inconveniently rankled and wished inside I hadn't reminded them of something that punctures their Tory hate balloon "
Lolz really! As a centrist (and declared as such many times on here) I have no particular affinity to any political party. I am always calling out the tribalism and footballisation of politics. I don’t care what colour tie a politician wears, if they act shit they should be called for it.
Whataboutism is regularly used as a justification or normalisation of bad behaviour. There is no justification. Johnson was truly awful. A joke of a man. A complete clown. I hope he rots in hell! |
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"Just seen a press release- he’s promised never to lie again.
Thoughts?
Ask Michael Howard and Max Hastings..  "
Oh yes Michael Howard being asked the same question 12 times on Newsnight!
Anyway, on sacking Boris, Lord Howard now says "in retrospect I don't think I should have done."
He went on: "It was to do with his private life and I don't think I should have done it." |
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By *usybee73Man
over a year ago
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
He was sacked 3 months ago, not much winning there "
Can be sacked by the mps, but membership and the election ?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just seen a press release- he’s promised never to lie again.
Thoughts?
Ask Michael Howard and Max Hastings..
Oh yes Michael Howard being asked the same question 12 times on Newsnight!
Anyway, on sacking Boris, Lord Howard now says "in retrospect I don't think I should have done."
He went on: "It was to do with his private life and I don't think I should have done it.""
Why did he lie for and promote a known sex pest |
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ?? "
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
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I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"Will Boris welcome Cummings back ?
Who can say? If Keir Starmer wins in '25, Mandelson has already said he'd like to serve in his cabinet.
He quit for a second time in 2001 after being accused of helping one of the Hinduja brothers get a British passport in return for a £1m donation to the Millennium Dome. Brown brought him back for Cabinet job 3, some years later. So if Labour can do this why not Boris? I'm intrigued how much he can change in, what, three months.
We all know both sides bring back people who leave under a cloud.
Unusual to do it before there has been time for the cloud to dissapear.
It's not 3 months. I think he showed genuine contrition and a willingness to change up to a year ago when the left wing media first began whipping up hysteria about cake and drinks and managed to spook Tory MPs to drop him 3 months ago. Many now realise they dumped a winner, the man with the mandate and who Labour are genuinely terrified of, and want him back, reformed and refreshed
Left wing media..?
The picture of Her Majesty the late Queen was on all the papers, the Times, Telegraph and Mail etc all rightly ripped into him for his putting two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules whilst he oversaw and participated in a culture of breaking the law at the time..
Trouble with trying to rewrite history when it's still recent is your going to be caught out..
For the record it was wrong for Mandelson to come back at that time..
Boris is still under investigation for lying to Parliament..
He did not 'put two fingers up to all and sundry who followed the rules'
He was simply with people he'd been in meetings with all day anyway, like millions of people.
And lied about it, hence the inquiry,
The Inquiry has not started yet, so we don't know if he knowingly lied
Let’s wait and see then, he tells lies all the time though, but he is very good at fooling the foolish . For the sake of the country I really hope he doesn’t return, but I hope he does, he will destroy the Tories
The truth is, everyone lies. While we all like to think we’re totally honest, statistically speaking we are liars. Researchers estimate the average person lies a minimum of once to twice per day. If you don’t believe me, ask yourself:
Do you ever give people compliments that aren’t genuine? Have you told someone you were doing fine when, in reality, you were tired and having a bad week?
Do you ever tell people you are busy to avoid having to speak to them or do something with them?
If you answered yes to any of those questions, then you’ve lied.
The important thing is did he knowingly lie to Parliament?
The idea that Labour politicians never lie is just totally absurd.
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“The truth is everyone lies” so you just lied therefore it isn’t the truth that everyone lies! Tricky stuff language ain’t it!!! |
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
He was sacked 3 months ago, not much winning there
Can be sacked by the mps, but membership and the election ?? "
He was sacked because he lied , I really hope he does go for the leadership, he is destroying the Tory party |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
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And criminal fines.. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Yep, bring back Truss "
Hitler deserved a second chance then? Stalin? Genghis Khan? Yorkshire Ripper? Fred West? Jimmy Saville? |
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards "
80 seat majority and then sacked within 3 years, so much winning |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
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That's the Left for you! |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards "
Interesting turn of phrase. Is this another of Pat’s pseudonyms? Hmmmm |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Yep, bring back Truss
Hitler deserved a second chance then? Stalin? Genghis Khan? Yorkshire Ripper? Fred West? Jimmy Saville?"
You're better than that! Boris is no murderer. |
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards
Interesting turn of phrase. Is this another of Pat’s pseudonyms? Hmmmm"
Pat who? |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Yep, bring back Truss
Hitler deserved a second chance then? Stalin? Genghis Khan? Yorkshire Ripper? Fred West? Jimmy Saville?
You're better than that! Boris is no murderer. "
True just complicit in the Govt equivalent of corporate manslaughter. Thousands died when his Govt policy was to send elderly people out of hospitals, untested for Covid, into care homes.
He was part of the Govt that refused to recognise the warnings of Operation Cygnus and were unprepared for the pandemic with inadequate PPE causing the deaths of healthcare workers and care home workers.
So not a murderer but...! |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
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Sorry are we describing the Johnson who was London mayor, the Johnson who was foreign secretary, or the Johnson who was pm! |
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards
80 seat majority and then sacked within 3 years, so much winning "
Absolutely - Labour down 60 and even the Lib Dems down 1
How many 80 seat majorities have you won? |
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards
80 seat majority and then sacked within 3 years, so much winning
Absolutely - Labour down 60 and even the Lib Dems down 1
How many 80 seat majorities have you won? "
None, I have never tried to be PM, here is a fact, in 2019 the Tory party won on 80 seat majority, in 2022 the Tory party sacked Boris Johnson for lying about a sex pest , winning |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards
Interesting turn of phrase. Is this another of Pat’s pseudonyms? Hmmmm
Pat who? "
Interesting how whenever Pat’s obvious profiles go quiet, you pop up. Rarely (if ever) see both of you posting in the same threads or at similar times.
Obv now if this is Pat he will need to address that, but a skim back through the threads makes it clear you are not active at the same time. That combined with a similar syntax...hmmmm! |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate "
211 sounds impressive… until you say that was out of 358!! Which means that about 40 % of his own serving mps didn’t have confidence in him!!! And remember that vote was taken before pincher! |
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards
Interesting turn of phrase. Is this another of Pat’s pseudonyms? Hmmmm
Pat who?
Interesting how whenever Pat’s obvious profiles go quiet, you pop up. Rarely (if ever) see both of you posting in the same threads or at similar times.
Obv now if this is Pat he will need to address that, but a skim back through the threads makes it clear you are not active at the same time. That combined with a similar syntax...hmmmm!"
I have one profile? What is Pat's username?
Surely not surprising after 14 million people provided Boris with a landslide, there might be at least 2 Tories on the forum? |
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards
Interesting turn of phrase. Is this another of Pat’s pseudonyms? Hmmmm
Pat who?
Interesting how whenever Pat’s obvious profiles go quiet, you pop up. Rarely (if ever) see both of you posting in the same threads or at similar times.
Obv now if this is Pat he will need to address that, but a skim back through the threads makes it clear you are not active at the same time. That combined with a similar syntax...hmmmm!
I have one profile? What is Pat's username?
Surely not surprising after 14 million people provided Boris with a landslide, there might be at least 2 Tories on the forum? "
14 million provided the Tories with a land slide, the same Tories that sacked Boris less that 3 years later |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
Sorry are we describing the Johnson who was London mayor, the Johnson who was foreign secretary, or the Johnson who was pm! "
Remind me as it's all a bit confusing, which one of those hats were worn when he sneaked off and spent the weekend with the son of the EX KGB officer..
And which one was worn when he promised not to cut fire cover in the Capital then did ..
And which one when he ignored the known lessons of his too late lockdown in 2020 but then ignored the SAGE advice to lockdown in September and had to in December, the latter now shown to have increased deaths.. |
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards
Interesting turn of phrase. Is this another of Pat’s pseudonyms? Hmmmm
Pat who?
Interesting how whenever Pat’s obvious profiles go quiet, you pop up. Rarely (if ever) see both of you posting in the same threads or at similar times.
Obv now if this is Pat he will need to address that, but a skim back through the threads makes it clear you are not active at the same time. That combined with a similar syntax...hmmmm!
I have one profile? What is Pat's username?
Surely not surprising after 14 million people provided Boris with a landslide, there might be at least 2 Tories on the forum?
14 million provided the Tories with a land slide, the same Tories that sacked Boris less that 3 years later "
Labour won 202 seats, its lowest number and proportion of seats since 1935 |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards
Interesting turn of phrase. Is this another of Pat’s pseudonyms? Hmmmm
Pat who?
Interesting how whenever Pat’s obvious profiles go quiet, you pop up. Rarely (if ever) see both of you posting in the same threads or at similar times.
Obv now if this is Pat he will need to address that, but a skim back through the threads makes it clear you are not active at the same time. That combined with a similar syntax...hmmmm!
I have one profile? What is Pat's username?
Surely not surprising after 14 million people provided Boris with a landslide, there might be at least 2 Tories on the forum? "
Normally I would say yeah of course. There are plenty of tories on these forums. But language and how it is used creates patterns that are hard to break. It *could* be coincidence but I am not so sure.
How’s that landslide doing BTW? |
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards
80 seat majority and then sacked within 3 years, so much winning
Absolutely - Labour down 60 and even the Lib Dems down 1
How many 80 seat majorities have you won?
None, I have never tried to be PM, here is a fact, in 2019 the Tory party won on 80 seat majority, in 2022 the Tory party sacked Boris Johnson for lying about a sex pest , winning "
But, but it was according to Chesh the left wing media that led to Boris's party getting good riddance.. |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines.. "
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one) |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards
Interesting turn of phrase. Is this another of Pat’s pseudonyms? Hmmmm
Pat who?
Interesting how whenever Pat’s obvious profiles go quiet, you pop up. Rarely (if ever) see both of you posting in the same threads or at similar times.
Obv now if this is Pat he will need to address that, but a skim back through the threads makes it clear you are not active at the same time. That combined with a similar syntax...hmmmm!
I have one profile? What is Pat's username?
Surely not surprising after 14 million people provided Boris with a landslide, there might be at least 2 Tories on the forum?
14 million provided the Tories with a land slide, the same Tories that sacked Boris less that 3 years later
Labour won 202 seats, its lowest number and proportion of seats since 1935 "
I would say that was as much to do with people’s dislike of Corbyn as it was their only alternative (in their minds) of going with Johnson. If Labour had had a more credible leader, even with Brexit looming, I think Johnson would have been toast! |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one) "
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up.. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate
211 sounds impressive… until you say that was out of 358!! Which means that about 40 % of his own serving mps didn’t have confidence in him!!! And remember that vote was taken before pincher! "
And this is why I half want Johnson to win… you are going to have roughly 140 tory mps so are going to have to answer that if you voted no confidence in him ….. and then pincher happened… how do you have confidence in him now????
They might not cross the floor of the house, but it will be interesting to see just how many Tory mps resign the whip |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up.."
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ? |
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"We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate
211 sounds impressive… until you say that was out of 358!! Which means that about 40 % of his own serving mps didn’t have confidence in him!!! And remember that vote was taken before pincher!
And this is why I half want Johnson to win… you are going to have roughly 140 tory mps so are going to have to answer that if you voted no confidence in him ….. and then pincher happened… how do you have confidence in him now????
They might not cross the floor of the house, but it will be interesting to see just how many Tory mps resign the whip "
…. and if Sunak is appointed Chancellor of Exchequer ???? |
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"Why do you think these boards and certain media are getting there tits in a twist? Boris is a winner, all his faults etc
Makes me laugh ??
Same
Proven winner. Mayor twice, landslide win, first for Tories since 87. This is why the left hate him so much and so hold him to the most exacting standards
Interesting turn of phrase. Is this another of Pat’s pseudonyms? Hmmmm
Pat who?
Interesting how whenever Pat’s obvious profiles go quiet, you pop up. Rarely (if ever) see both of you posting in the same threads or at similar times.
Obv now if this is Pat he will need to address that, but a skim back through the threads makes it clear you are not active at the same time. That combined with a similar syntax...hmmmm!
I have one profile? What is Pat's username?
Surely not surprising after 14 million people provided Boris with a landslide, there might be at least 2 Tories on the forum?
14 million provided the Tories with a land slide, the same Tories that sacked Boris less that 3 years later
Labour won 202 seats, its lowest number and proportion of seats since 1935
I would say that was as much to do with people’s dislike of Corbyn as it was their only alternative (in their minds) of going with Johnson. If Labour had had a more credible leader, even with Brexit looming, I think Johnson would have been toast!"
You're as deluded on that as you are on me and 'Pat' being the same person
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ? "
I don't necessarily agree with the latter point, he is marmite so it's understandable perhaps how divisive he is..
I don't accept that MP's do get nicked etc is a valid reason for some to excuse a sitting PM, the first to accept he broke his own governments laws in a time of National crisis ..
Call me biased maybe but I would feel the same way whichever colour the person was at that time.. |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ? "
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"We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate
211 sounds impressive… until you say that was out of 358!! Which means that about 40 % of his own serving mps didn’t have confidence in him!!! And remember that vote was taken before pincher!
And this is why I half want Johnson to win… you are going to have roughly 140 tory mps so are going to have to answer that if you voted no confidence in him ….. and then pincher happened… how do you have confidence in him now????
They might not cross the floor of the house, but it will be interesting to see just how many Tory mps resign the whip
…. and if Sunak is appointed Chancellor of Exchequer ????"
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ?
Because he's a winner and he terrifies them - they can't win up against him, so they go for tittle tattle about cake causing millions of corporate manslaughter deaths ffs! "
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ?
I don't necessarily agree with the latter point, he is marmite so it's understandable perhaps how divisive he is..
I don't accept that MP's do get nicked etc is a valid reason for some to excuse a sitting PM, the first to accept he broke his own governments laws in a time of National crisis ..
Call me biased maybe but I would feel the same way whichever colour the person was at that time.."
Oh come off it! You would engage in all sorts of verbal gymnastics and political bias to curry favour with Keir!
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ?
Because he's a winner and he terrifies them - they can't win up against him, so they go for tittle tattle about cake causing millions of corporate manslaughter deaths ffs! "
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ?
I don't necessarily agree with the latter point, he is marmite so it's understandable perhaps how divisive he is..
I don't accept that MP's do get nicked etc is a valid reason for some to excuse a sitting PM, the first to accept he broke his own governments laws in a time of National crisis ..
Call me biased maybe but I would feel the same way whichever colour the person was at that time..
Oh come off it! You would engage in all sorts of verbal gymnastics and political bias to curry favour with Keir!
"we can now confirm Angrier Raynor was there, sorry for the administration slip up" "
Your missing the point, Boris wasn’t sacked for party gate, he was sacked for lying about a sex pest |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ?
Because he's a winner and he terrifies them - they can't win up against him, so they go for tittle tattle about cake causing millions of corporate manslaughter deaths ffs!
There’s that syntax again lol"
There’s that avoidance again lol
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ?
I don't necessarily agree with the latter point, he is marmite so it's understandable perhaps how divisive he is..
I don't accept that MP's do get nicked etc is a valid reason for some to excuse a sitting PM, the first to accept he broke his own governments laws in a time of National crisis ..
Call me biased maybe but I would feel the same way whichever colour the person was at that time..
Oh come off it! You would engage in all sorts of verbal gymnastics and political bias to curry favour with Keir!
"we can now confirm Angrier Raynor was there, sorry for the administration slip up"
Your missing the point, Boris wasn’t sacked for party gate, he was sacked for lying about a sex pest "
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ?
I don't necessarily agree with the latter point, he is marmite so it's understandable perhaps how divisive he is..
I don't accept that MP's do get nicked etc is a valid reason for some to excuse a sitting PM, the first to accept he broke his own governments laws in a time of National crisis ..
Call me biased maybe but I would feel the same way whichever colour the person was at that time..
Oh come off it! You would engage in all sorts of verbal gymnastics and political bias to curry favour with Keir!
"we can now confirm Angrier Raynor was there, sorry for the administration slip up"
Your missing the point, Boris wasn’t sacked for party gate, he was sacked for lying about a sex pest
It's 'you're' and I'm not "
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"We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate
211 sounds impressive… until you say that was out of 358!! Which means that about 40 % of his own serving mps didn’t have confidence in him!!! And remember that vote was taken before pincher!
And this is why I half want Johnson to win… you are going to have roughly 140 tory mps so are going to have to answer that if you voted no confidence in him ….. and then pincher happened… how do you have confidence in him now????
They might not cross the floor of the house, but it will be interesting to see just how many Tory mps resign the whip
…. and if Sunak is appointed Chancellor of Exchequer ????
He won’t take that job "
What do you think he and Boris were talking about when they met ?
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"We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate
211 sounds impressive… until you say that was out of 358!! Which means that about 40 % of his own serving mps didn’t have confidence in him!!! And remember that vote was taken before pincher!
And this is why I half want Johnson to win… you are going to have roughly 140 tory mps so are going to have to answer that if you voted no confidence in him ….. and then pincher happened… how do you have confidence in him now????
They might not cross the floor of the house, but it will be interesting to see just how many Tory mps resign the whip
…. and if Sunak is appointed Chancellor of Exchequer ????
He won’t take that job
What do you think he and Boris were talking about when they met ?
Sunak knows if the vote goes to the membership, Johnson will win "
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ?
I don't necessarily agree with the latter point, he is marmite so it's understandable perhaps how divisive he is..
I don't accept that MP's do get nicked etc is a valid reason for some to excuse a sitting PM, the first to accept he broke his own governments laws in a time of National crisis ..
Call me biased maybe but I would feel the same way whichever colour the person was at that time.."
That’s an interesting thought/admission
I wonder if I would be as supportive if it was a different political colour person - can’t say for sure but I think I would be
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"We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate
211 sounds impressive… until you say that was out of 358!! Which means that about 40 % of his own serving mps didn’t have confidence in him!!! And remember that vote was taken before pincher!
And this is why I half want Johnson to win… you are going to have roughly 140 tory mps so are going to have to answer that if you voted no confidence in him ….. and then pincher happened… how do you have confidence in him now????
They might not cross the floor of the house, but it will be interesting to see just how many Tory mps resign the whip
…. and if Sunak is appointed Chancellor of Exchequer ????
He won’t take that job
What do you think he and Boris were talking about when they met ?
Sunak knows if the vote goes to the membership, Johnson will win
Then the Tories are fucked, "
Strange way of spelling "Then the Tories are winners again" but then it's not your strong point!
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"We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate
211 sounds impressive… until you say that was out of 358!! Which means that about 40 % of his own serving mps didn’t have confidence in him!!! And remember that vote was taken before pincher!
And this is why I half want Johnson to win… you are going to have roughly 140 tory mps so are going to have to answer that if you voted no confidence in him ….. and then pincher happened… how do you have confidence in him now????
They might not cross the floor of the house, but it will be interesting to see just how many Tory mps resign the whip
…. and if Sunak is appointed Chancellor of Exchequer ????
He won’t take that job
What do you think he and Boris were talking about when they met ?
Sunak knows if the vote goes to the membership, Johnson will win
Then the Tories are fucked,
Strange way of spelling "Then the Tories are winners again" but then it's not your strong point!
Off down the pub "
PMSL, he is struggling to get one third of his party to back him right now, he just isn’t very popular |
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ?
I don't necessarily agree with the latter point, he is marmite so it's understandable perhaps how divisive he is..
I don't accept that MP's do get nicked etc is a valid reason for some to excuse a sitting PM, the first to accept he broke his own governments laws in a time of National crisis ..
Call me biased maybe but I would feel the same way whichever colour the person was at that time..
That’s an interesting thought/admission
I wonder if I would be as supportive if it was a different political colour person - can’t say for sure but I think I would be
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I voted once for Blair's new labour, as it was time for the Tories to be in opposition but I didn't in his two other wins..
He was too Tory lite for my liking but he knew the only way to hold the post was the centre ground vote..
We've had the con that was brexit and people also fell for getting brexit done and leveling up, populist fallacies but they worked..
The Tories going further to the right are leaving the door open to the centre ground, it's all cyclical.. |
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over a year ago
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ?
I don't necessarily agree with the latter point, he is marmite so it's understandable perhaps how divisive he is..
I don't accept that MP's do get nicked etc is a valid reason for some to excuse a sitting PM, the first to accept he broke his own governments laws in a time of National crisis ..
Call me biased maybe but I would feel the same way whichever colour the person was at that time..
That’s an interesting thought/admission
I wonder if I would be as supportive if it was a different political colour person - can’t say for sure but I think I would be
I voted once for Blair's new labour, as it was time for the Tories to be in opposition but I didn't in his two other wins..
He was too Tory lite for my liking but he knew the only way to hold the post was the centre ground vote..
We've had the con that was brexit and people also fell for getting brexit done and leveling up, populist fallacies but they worked..
The Tories going further to the right are leaving the door open to the centre ground, it's all cyclical.."
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"According to his acolytes he won't be the same lying, rule breaking, law ignoring slimy two faced piece of untrustworthy shit he was before..
Like fuck right off..
In life everyone deserves a second chance …
right?
Will go with the principle of that yes, but how many times has he been sacked for lying before he became PM..?
The lesson if any in the future should be that in the highest offices we have as a country there has to be a bar set and that's for all sides..
In the private and public sector there is acceptable standards of conduct at all levels yet we seem ok with ignoring them for some populist politicians..
It's not proper..
I agree to a point, however I do feel that we are judge and jury based on nothing more than opinions.
And criminal fines..
A fixed Penalty Notice - loads of MPs have received one (some more than one)
And down and down we go..
I suppose if we're heading in that direction then the only way is up..
It’s not a downward spiral - like for like - it has to be judged on the same standards or it just appears sour/vindictive grapes ? why are we making a completely new rule book just for Mr Johnson ?
I don't necessarily agree with the latter point, he is marmite so it's understandable perhaps how divisive he is..
I don't accept that MP's do get nicked etc is a valid reason for some to excuse a sitting PM, the first to accept he broke his own governments laws in a time of National crisis ..
Call me biased maybe but I would feel the same way whichever colour the person was at that time..
That’s an interesting thought/admission
I wonder if I would be as supportive if it was a different political colour person - can’t say for sure but I think I would be
I voted once for Blair's new labour, as it was time for the Tories to be in opposition but I didn't in his two other wins..
He was too Tory lite for my liking but he knew the only way to hold the post was the centre ground vote..
We've had the con that was brexit and people also fell for getting brexit done and leveling up, populist fallacies but they worked..
The Tories going further to the right are leaving the door open to the centre ground, it's all cyclical..
The centre ground is where it’s at! Count me in "
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"We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate
211 sounds impressive… until you say that was out of 358!! Which means that about 40 % of his own serving mps didn’t have confidence in him!!! And remember that vote was taken before pincher!
And this is why I half want Johnson to win… you are going to have roughly 140 tory mps so are going to have to answer that if you voted no confidence in him ….. and then pincher happened… how do you have confidence in him now????
They might not cross the floor of the house, but it will be interesting to see just how many Tory mps resign the whip
…. and if Sunak is appointed Chancellor of Exchequer ????
He won’t take that job
What do you think he and Boris were talking about when they met ?
Sunak knows if the vote goes to the membership, Johnson will win
Then the Tories are fucked,
Strange way of spelling "Then the Tories are winners again" but then it's not your strong point!
Off down the pub "
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"We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate
211 sounds impressive… until you say that was out of 358!! Which means that about 40 % of his own serving mps didn’t have confidence in him!!! And remember that vote was taken before pincher!
And this is why I half want Johnson to win… you are going to have roughly 140 tory mps so are going to have to answer that if you voted no confidence in him ….. and then pincher happened… how do you have confidence in him now????
They might not cross the floor of the house, but it will be interesting to see just how many Tory mps resign the whip
…. and if Sunak is appointed Chancellor of Exchequer ????
He won’t take that job
What do you think he and Boris were talking about when they met ?
Sunak knows if the vote goes to the membership, Johnson will win
Then the Tories are fucked,
Strange way of spelling "Then the Tories are winners again" but then it's not your strong point!
Off down the pub
Dry your eyes, he is a loser "
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"We know the former prime minister won the support of 211 MPs in the no confidence vote this summer, so 50 odd is likely to be an underestimate
211 sounds impressive… until you say that was out of 358!! Which means that about 40 % of his own serving mps didn’t have confidence in him!!! And remember that vote was taken before pincher!
And this is why I half want Johnson to win… you are going to have roughly 140 tory mps so are going to have to answer that if you voted no confidence in him ….. and then pincher happened… how do you have confidence in him now????
They might not cross the floor of the house, but it will be interesting to see just how many Tory mps resign the whip
…. and if Sunak is appointed Chancellor of Exchequer ????
He won’t take that job
What do you think he and Boris were talking about when they met ?
Sunak knows if the vote goes to the membership, Johnson will win
Then the Tories are fucked,
Strange way of spelling "Then the Tories are winners again" but then it's not your strong point!
Off down the pub
Dry your eyes, he is a loser
… but has changed .. country before party/self ??? "
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"Boris lied..
Well who would have thought that..
What’s he “lied” about now ??
Having 102 MPs backing him, utter bull shit "
…. And you know for sure / as fact that he didn’t ?
… like I mentioned earlier … judge and jury based on opinion.
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"Boris lied..
Well who would have thought that..
What’s he “lied” about now ??
Having 102 MPs backing him, utter bull shit
…. And you know for sure / as fact that he didn’t ?
… like I mentioned earlier … judge and jury based on opinion.
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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Johnson claimed he had 102 backers but still pulled out. He won’t disclose the full list of 102 people he says backed him. I would say that it is safe to assume he is lying (again). He pulled out because he didn’t have the numbers.
Should have stayed on holiday (wonder who paid for that one). Wonder what his constituents think of his work ethic? Time for a recall!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Boris lied..
Well who would have thought that..
What’s he “lied” about now ??
Having 102 MPs backing him, utter bull shit
…. And you know for sure / as fact that he didn’t ?
… like I mentioned earlier … judge and jury based on opinion.
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why do you think he pulled out then ? What changed do you think?
If I took everyone on face value, I would guess someone has given him a heads up the investigation going well |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Boris lied..
Well who would have thought that..
What’s he “lied” about now ??
Having 102 MPs backing him, utter bull shit
…. And you know for sure / as fact that he didn’t ?
… like I mentioned earlier … judge and jury based on opinion.
why do you think he pulled out then ? What changed do you think?
If I took everyone on face value, I would guess someone has given him a heads up the investigation going well "
I also can see some other versions of reality that make sense
1) he has 102 qualified supporters. If I were a Boris supporting MP I'd say I'd declare but only once he got to 80+. If everyone said this, he'd get stuck, yet would still feel he has 102 supporters.
2) he is lying. This isn't just based on his character. I struggle to see where he got 100 from. He only had limited support given VoC + resignations. And a fair number of previous supporterw shad come out against him.
And if I was making up a number I'd choose 102. |
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Absolutely delighted with developments Boris had the numbers but did the decent, right thing. His time will come again. Ben Wallace was my first choice, but as he didn't stand, my 2nd choice was Rishi. Great market reaction, ftse comfortably above 7000. Labour and SNP now rattling teeth and know we're in for a period of boredom and unity (thankfully) - then tax cuts will come in due course. First British Asian PM and of course, the diverse Tories delivered it! We've probably already had a gay PM, three women PMs and Labour just give you male, stale and pale!!
Dry me eyes - yes probably, laughing hysterically at Labour and the lefties trying to spin the diversity card and 'crashed' economy. Rapturous scenes at Downing St as the man who saved millions of jobs with furlough is greeted as new PM
@flabtastic - its brought a tear to my eye |
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"I also can see some other versions of reality that make sense
1) he has 102 qualified supporters. If I were a Boris supporting MP I'd say I'd declare but only once he got to 80+. If everyone said this, he'd get stuck, yet would still feel he has 102 supporters.
2) he is lying. This isn't just based on his character. I struggle to see where he got 100 from. He only had limited support given VoC + resignations. And a fair number of previous supporterw shad come out against him.
And if I was making up a number I'd choose 102. "
You seem to be missing the obvious third option.
They're all politicians. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Boris had 102 MPs all telling him that they were backing him, and then going next door and voting for Rishi. |
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