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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
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Norway on alert after drone sightings near key infrastructure.
Numerous reported drone sightings near offshore oil and gas platforms and other Norwegian infrastructure in recent months.
Last month Oslo tightened security at such sites after the alleged sabotage of the Nord Stream gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea.
Around 52% of all the UK's gas imports came from Norway in the second quarter of the year. The second highest was Qatar, which supplied less than 9 percent of the imports.
Britain has five gas pipelines that bring gas here from Norway and from Norwegian gas fields in the North Sea. |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
Longridge |
Pretty sure Shetland was accidental although Russia has been paying unnatural attention to undersea infrastructure.
I personally think that if these are going to be damaged, then the charges were laid a long time ago, especially power cables and pipes.
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
Longridge |
If, and it is very possible, Putin plans Norwegian supply pipes to be deliberately damaged, loosing 38% to 52% of our Gas supply with almost Zero onshore storage- we'd in for a miserable few months over Winter.
Although, missles shot off near surveillance aircraft, NORD STREAM explosions, Shetland again could be a demonstration of what could happen and being played down to stop panic..
Looking at the last 100 years of History, nothing what Humans are capable of doing to other Humans, Surprises me - especially Putin's regime.
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"If, and it is very possible, Putin plans Norwegian supply pipes to be deliberately damaged, loosing 38% to 52% of our Gas supply with almost Zero onshore storage- we'd in for a miserable few months over Winter.
Although, missles shot off near surveillance aircraft, NORD STREAM explosions, Shetland again could be a demonstration of what could happen and being played down to stop panic..
Looking at the last 100 years of History, nothing what Humans are capable of doing to other Humans, Surprises me - especially Putin's regime.
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"If, and it is very possible, Putin plans Norwegian supply pipes to be deliberately damaged, loosing 38% to 52% of our Gas supply with almost Zero onshore storage- we'd in for a miserable few months over Winter.
Although, missles shot off near surveillance aircraft, NORD STREAM explosions, Shetland again could be a demonstration of what could happen and being played down to stop panic..
Looking at the last 100 years of History, nothing what Humans are capable of doing to other Humans, Surprises me - especially Putin's regime.
Wow aren't you are ray of sunshine "
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
Longridge |
"If, and it is very possible, Putin plans Norwegian supply pipes to be deliberately damaged, loosing 38% to 52% of our Gas supply with almost Zero onshore storage- we'd in for a miserable few months over Winter.
Although, missles shot off near surveillance aircraft, NORD STREAM explosions, Shetland again could be a demonstration of what could happen and being played down to stop panic..
Looking at the last 100 years of History, nothing what Humans are capable of doing to other Humans, Surprises me - especially Putin's regime.
Wow aren't you are ray of sunshine "
I love sunshine.. rolling in 6kwh of it here right now.
At what point would you like to wake up and smell the coffee?
Stick your heads in the sand, it's no loss to me. Wake up and do something to what may keep get your family through Winter.
I know which I prefer...
It also keeps the Trolls entertained as you can see. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If Russia sabotages pipelines it's an attack on a NATO country and an attack on one is an attack on all. Same thing if Putin used a tactical nuke, even as a "demonstration" or "test"
If NATO wished it, Russian assets in Ukraine and the Black Sea would be toast in a matter of hours. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Given the Russian military performance against just Ukraine, albeit with training and help with weapon supply from the west, what exactly do you think would happen if it attacked a NATO country? Their military would be crushed and this would continue until they no longer had any able bodied people left to send into the meat grinder. |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
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Might not stop him repeating NORD STREAM though.
The end game game might be to provoke NATO into a reaction then Nuke us!!
The submarine carrying Poseidon seems to have has slipped off into the depths.
Surfing anyone? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Norway on alert after drone sightings near key infrastructure.
Numerous reported drone sightings near offshore oil and gas platforms and other Norwegian infrastructure in recent months.
Last month Oslo tightened security at such sites after the alleged sabotage of the Nord Stream gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea.
Around 52% of all the UK's gas imports came from Norway in the second quarter of the year. The second highest was Qatar, which supplied less than 9 percent of the imports.
Britain has five gas pipelines that bring gas here from Norway and from Norwegian gas fields in the North Sea."
If it was Russia that would be article 5 invoked straight away… and huge EU retribution … that would put the Russians Baltic fleet on blast straight away |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
Longridge |
Bit off at a tangent there..
All I was saying was that we should be dusting off our Generators and giving them a run.
Unless, you have one of those new EV's with Vehicle 2 Load, and be able to use one to power the house during a Blackout.
Some have no idea their cars are capable of this until they've been educated at a public charger, and briefed on how to make up the cable.. |
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"Bit off at a tangent there..
All I was saying was that we should be dusting off our Generators and giving them a run.
Unless, you have one of those new EV's with Vehicle 2 Load, and be able to use one to power the house during a Blackout.
Some have no idea their cars are capable of this until they've been educated at a public charger, and briefed on how to make up the cable.."
Good idea charge electric vehicles from a generator.  |
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"Russia have not had a successful test of their nuclear weapons yet been reported of 2 aborted tests reason given was technical problems"
If you mean that the present-day country of Russia has never performed a nuclear test, that's true.
However the Soviet Union performed over 700 successful nuclear tests, and all of their weapons now belong to Russia. There's no reason to doubt that Russian nuclear weapons will work. |
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"Russia have not had a successful test of their nuclear weapons yet been reported of 2 aborted tests reason given was technical problems
If you mean that the present-day country of Russia has never performed a nuclear test, that's true.
However the Soviet Union performed over 700 successful nuclear tests, and all of their weapons now belong to Russia. There's no reason to doubt that Russian nuclear weapons will work."
I think it would be very dangerous to make the assumption that Russia's nukes may not work.
However it is 32 years (anniversary tomorrow BTW) since the last Soviet/Russian test.
If you left your car in the garage for that time you wouldn't expect to just jump into it and do a London to Glasgow run. You would at least start the engine occasionally. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
carrbrook stalybridge |
"Might not stop him repeating NORD STREAM though.
The end game game might be to provoke NATO into a reaction then Nuke us!!
The submarine carrying Poseidon seems to have has slipped off into the depths.
Surfing anyone?"
it will be being shadowed dont worry there will be a loss Angeles class or an astute class atack submarine posibley both keeping a watchfull eye on it ready to pounce at the first sign of hostile actions . |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
If Russia are stupid enough to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine why does that automatically mean NATO respond. Ukraine is still not a NATO member so not protected regardless of the weapons being used. Is it because the wind can blow fallout across the boarder or is there another reason. |
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"Russian defence ministry are now claiming that it was the Royal Navy that blew up the nordstream pipelines…… "
That's only because they were going to blame it upon Captain Pugwash till somebody reminded them that was pure fiction.. |
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"Russian defence ministry are now claiming that it was the Royal Navy that blew up the nordstream pipelines…… "
Obviously it was John Mills in his midget submarine, pissed off when he couldn't find the German battleship Tirpitz. |
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"Russian defence ministry are now claiming that it was the Royal Navy that blew up the nordstream pipelines…… "
I don't believe that for a second, but at least it's more believable than the idea that the Russians blew up their own pipeline. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
carrbrook stalybridge |
"If Russia are stupid enough to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine why does that automatically mean NATO respond. Ukraine is still not a NATO member so not protected regardless of the weapons being used. Is it because the wind can blow fallout across the boarder or is there another reason. "
you realy honestly think the rest of the world especialy NATO wouls just stand by if a nuclear weapon was detonated in Ukraine with resultant fallout and contamination and do nothing ? At best Nato Sweden & Finland would go to full military alert within minutes .the chances of an "accident or incedent " between them and a Russian military unit would be pretty big and from there things can and will escalate very quickly
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
Longridge |
"Russian defence ministry are now claiming that it was the Royal Navy that blew up the nordstream pipelines…… "
We did - to ensure we buy only US Gas. Wait until we blow up the Langeled pipes from Norway. |
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"Russian defence ministry are now claiming that it was the Royal Navy that blew up the nordstream pipelines……"
"We did - to ensure we buy only US Gas. Wait until we blow up the Langeled pipes from Norway."
And what, in your opinion, would be the benefit to the UK of only buying US gas? |
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over a year ago
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"Russian defence ministry are now claiming that it was the Royal Navy that blew up the nordstream pipelines……
We did - to ensure we buy only US Gas. Wait until we blow up the Langeled pipes from Norway.
And what, in your opinion, would be the benefit to the UK of only buying US gas?"
No no no leave us out of it. * Turns up thermostat*.  |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
Longridge |
"Russian defence ministry are now claiming that it was the Royal Navy that blew up the nordstream pipelines……
We did - to ensure we buy only US Gas. Wait until we blow jup the Langeled pipes from Norway.
And what, in your opinion, would be the benefit to the UK of only buying US gas?
No no no leave us out of it. * Turns up thermostat*. "
But you didn't do it..
The truth is now out there, Liz Truss and her Snakes arranged it with with the Royal Navy.
Evidence being handed to the UN monday I believe. I hope heads will roll now the truth is out.
I suppose blowing up the Norway pipe will mean Rough can be filled with our own and US Gas, not Norwegian.
My thermostat is already well up here, at 4p/kwh, I'm going to be toasty warm this winter and next. Save gas - screw that one as no one else is.
Seems I will be loosing some Solar as just agreed two guys with EVs to park their cars on my drive to charge them two days a week. Paying me 30p/kwh, I make 10.1p profit on each kwh meaning my EV gets a FREE kwh for every two they buy. Most helpful now that Tesco free charging finishes on Monday.
Met some great guys at public chargers the last fews months. Just needed a camp fire in the circle of camp chairs.
Monday and Wednesday's, leaving charger available to me on Thursday lpppand Friday. If im away, I'll open it 7 days a week and reap the profits against Winter pricing and usag.
Who'd have thought it, wheelin' and dealing electricity on your own doorstep could be so profitable. |
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"Evidence being handed to the UN monday I believe. I hope heads will roll now the truth is out."
I look forward to seeing that.
"I suppose blowing up the Norway pipe will mean Rough can be filled with our own and US Gas, not Norwegian."
But what benefit will the UK gain from filling up with US gas, rather than Norwegian? |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"Russian defence ministry are now claiming that it was the Royal Navy that blew up the nordstream pipelines……
We did - to ensure we buy only US Gas. Wait until we blow jup the Langeled pipes from Norway.
And what, in your opinion, would be the benefit to the UK of only buying US gas?
No no no leave us out of it. * Turns up thermostat*.
But you didn't do it..
The truth is now out there, Liz Truss and her Snakes arranged it with with the Royal Navy.
Evidence being handed to the UN monday I believe. I hope heads will roll now the truth is out.
I suppose blowing up the Norway pipe will mean Rough can be filled with our own and US Gas, not Norwegian.
My thermostat is already well up here, at 4p/kwh, I'm going to be toasty warm this winter and next. Save gas - screw that one as no one else is.
Seems I will be loosing some Solar as just agreed two guys with EVs to park their cars on my drive to charge them two days a week. Paying me 30p/kwh, I make 10.1p profit on each kwh meaning my EV gets a FREE kwh for every two they buy. Most helpful now that Tesco free charging finishes on Monday.
Met some great guys at public chargers the last fews months. Just needed a camp fire in the circle of camp chairs.
Monday and Wednesday's, leaving charger available to me on Thursday lpppand Friday. If im away, I'll open it 7 days a week and reap the profits against Winter pricing and usag.
Who'd have thought it, wheelin' and dealing electricity on your own doorstep could be so profitable."
Think if the tax you'll be paying. Or are you just going to break the law ? |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
Longridge |
LOL
You can earn £1000 as a sideline undeclared, but as I'm self employed, TAX on earning would be fully declared.
Again, dismissive of the facts to jump straight in. One charger already, ordering second tomorrow.
Two spaces on the drive and a 100amp 22kw supply. 14kw into two EVs won't even get close.
There is nothing illegal in using electricity to sell a service!!
Car charging being the 'service'.
Crack on.. |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
Longridge |
So, anyone with a 7kw home charger, with off-road parking and your out during the day.
Take your kwh rate, add 10p/Kwh and sell it as a service.
My electric company will have have heart failure at 450kwh per week going throughout the meter where it is normally ZERO.
I'm looking at £3,000 per year as I'll also be charging for parking!! |
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"If, and it is very possible, Putin plans Norwegian supply pipes to be deliberately damaged, loosing 38% to 52% of our Gas supply with almost Zero onshore storage- we'd in for a miserable few months over Winter.
Although, missles shot off near surveillance aircraft, NORD STREAM explosions, Shetland again could be a demonstration of what could happen and being played down to stop panic..
Looking at the last 100 years of History, nothing what Humans are capable of doing to other Humans, Surprises me - especially Putin's regime.
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Is he doing anything different to what we have been doing in the middle East for decades?
It's hard to call the pot black when you are the kettle. |
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"If Russia sabotages pipelines it's an attack on a NATO country and an attack on one is an attack on all. Same thing if Putin used a tactical nuke, even as a "demonstration" or "test"
If NATO wished it, Russian assets in Ukraine and the Black Sea would be toast in a matter of hours."
The problem is you need to prove Russia did it, whole purpose of these black ops is to cause damage while avoiding a full NATO response. |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
Longridge |
"If Russia sabotages pipelines it's an attack on a NATO country and an attack on one is an attack on all. Same thing if Putin used a tactical nuke, even as a "demonstration" or "test"
If NATO wished it, Russian assets in Ukraine and the Black Sea would be toast in a matter of hours. The problem is you need to prove Russia did it, whole purpose of these black ops is to cause damage while avoiding a full NATO response."
Probably why NORD STREAM was a test run to see the reaction. The Langeled pipeline pipeline being the main target.
We won't know until after the event, but Navy's are wasting their time monitoring although it looks good. If it is going to happen, things will already be in place and it's a feckin long pipe to inspect every inch and at this time of year.
Wasn't the poisonings on our soil an attack on a NATO country. Response will be cautious as its a hard call to go all in on a reaction with the ultimate outcome. |
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