"She genuinely seems to be incapable of understanding what cause and effect is and as for empathy? Is she just out of her depth or is there something wrong with her?"
Standard Tory as far as having no empathy for other humans.
If she endangers the Tories getting re-elected, or fails to serve their corporate/billionaire backers, she's gone. Otherwise, why would they bother changing her? |
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"is the clock ticing is there a taxi cumming for her she must be on borrowed time now"
is Tice and Cummings intentional puns here ... Time for her to Gove and Leave !
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She set Kwarteng up for the fall when she dobbed him in as the one behind the 45p tax cut, if and it's looking increasingly likely the u turn on corporation tax comes today (if that will be enough in itself) and Number 10 have chopped Kwartengs legs off in leaking it last night then he will resign..
The cost of government borrowing has risen by £10 billion pa since the fiscal fuck up, that's on us all in taxation and less money for public services..
But the real reason she should go however they get rid of her is the damage to everyone affected by this mess, the messed up mortgages being just one and not a scintilla of acknowledgement how that has and will affect millions..
Simply speaking she doesn't care and her own voters know it too not just those who would never vote for her party .. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"Maybe the plan all along was put Truss in for a few months and then when Sunak takes over he will appear to know what he's doing lol"
I think they should put Sunak in place ASAP, or announce it ASAP.
I need some time to get my head ready for the Sunak smugness. |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
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"Maybe the plan all along was put Truss in for a few months and then when Sunak takes over he will appear to know what he's doing lol
I think they should put Sunak in place ASAP, or announce it ASAP.
I need some time to get my head ready for the Sunak smugness."
I think if they do that they will certainly be toast with no way back at all.
She might be the one at the front but you need to look further back behind her advisers ect.
Gove Hancock and a few others are snakes and have been plotting this all along as they all wanted Sunak in the position and noses were out of joint as soon as they did not get their wish |
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"Maybe the plan all along was put Truss in for a few months and then when Sunak takes over he will appear to know what he's doing lol
I think they should put Sunak in place ASAP, or announce it ASAP.
I need some time to get my head ready for the Sunak smugness.
I think if they do that they will certainly be toast with no way back at all.
She might be the one at the front but you need to look further back behind her advisers ect.
Gove Hancock and a few others are snakes and have been plotting this all along as they all wanted Sunak in the position and noses were out of joint as soon as they did not get their wish "
That's the normal machinations of party politics, the Tories are far more likely to wield the knife when an incumbent is threatening their positions..
This isn't down to advisor's it's firmly on the head of Truss and her for the preset still chancellor, they sacked the senior treasury advisor and they sidelined the OBR in their ideological fiscal fuck up..
They bear the responsibility.. |
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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago
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"She genuinely seems to be incapable of understanding what cause and effect is and as for empathy? Is she just out of her depth or is there something wrong with her?"
Yes. I also noticed that and also, she doesnt come across like a strong leader, nor have a authoritative voice.
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"Some news dropping later on this afternoon.
Stand by!
Kwasi to be sacked, what a farce
He will end up being the fall guy for her mess…. "
Definitely, he is toast and truss is finished as well, just a matter of time , |
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"Some news dropping later on this afternoon.
Stand by!
Kwasi to be sacked, what a farce
He will end up being the fall guy for her mess…. "
He should have walked when she dobbed him in on telly over the 45% tax..
Loyalty eh..
What a prospect for his replacement..
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Some news dropping later on this afternoon.
Stand by!
Kwasi to be sacked, what a farce
He will end up being the fall guy for her mess….
Definitely, he is toast and truss is finished as well, just a matter of time , "
The interesting thing is because he was a major dept head, he is afforded the opportunity to make a leaving speech in the House of Commons from the back benches…. Will he take up the option, and will he use it to take down truss with him! |
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"Some news dropping later on this afternoon.
Stand by!
Kwasi to be sacked, what a farce
He will end up being the fall guy for her mess….
Definitely, he is toast and truss is finished as well, just a matter of time ,
The interesting thing is because he was a major dept head, he is afforded the opportunity to make a leaving speech in the House of Commons from the back benches…. Will he take up the option, and will he use it to take down truss with him! "
Depends , if Sunak is making moves to oust Truss then he might side with him to bring her down, the Tories are a bunch of snakes |
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"Some news dropping later on this afternoon.
Stand by!
Kwasi to be sacked, what a farce
He will end up being the fall guy for her mess….
He should have walked when she dobbed him in on telly over the 45% tax..
Loyalty eh..
What a prospect for his replacement..
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Maybe Sunak will come back as chancellor?  |
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Does any u turn on policy nenas she's now anti growth ?
It also undermines the current Truss supporters position of "giver? her time, you cant judge performance on a few weeks"
(Note: this was based on last week's QT. Haven't watched this week. It may have changed). |
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"Some news dropping later on this afternoon.
Stand by!
Kwasi to be sacked, what a farce
He will end up being the fall guy for her mess….
He should have walked when she dobbed him in on telly over the 45% tax..
Loyalty eh..
What a prospect for his replacement..
Maybe Sunak will come back as chancellor? "
In any other time, under any other government what we're seeing would be unthinkable but this lot are in such a mess under her leadership anything is possible..
She'll no doubt blame it all upon him and try to reset her disastrous start, as she has done upon Boris and May and Cameron's tenure ..
If the backbenchers don't bin her a lot of them are out of that job in two years, that is focussing their minds..
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"Some news dropping later on this afternoon.
Stand by!
Kwasi to be sacked, what a farce
He will end up being the fall guy for her mess….
He should have walked when she dobbed him in on telly over the 45% tax..
Loyalty eh..
What a prospect for his replacement..
Maybe Sunak will come back as chancellor?
In any other time, under any other government what we're seeing would be unthinkable but this lot are in such a mess under her leadership anything is possible..
She'll no doubt blame it all upon him and try to reset her disastrous start, as she has done upon Boris and May and Cameron's tenure ..
If the backbenchers don't bin her a lot of them are out of that job in two years, that is focussing their minds..
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Yep, tbh I thought she would be awful but not this bad, I also thought it would be funny but it’s not, she is dangerously stupid  |
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"Some news dropping later on this afternoon.
Stand by!
Kwasi to be sacked, what a farce
He will end up being the fall guy for her mess….
He should have walked when she dobbed him in on telly over the 45% tax..
Loyalty eh..
What a prospect for his replacement..
Maybe Sunak will come back as chancellor?
In any other time, under any other government what we're seeing would be unthinkable but this lot are in such a mess under her leadership anything is possible..
She'll no doubt blame it all upon him and try to reset her disastrous start, as she has done upon Boris and May and Cameron's tenure ..
If the backbenchers don't bin her a lot of them are out of that job in two years, that is focussing their minds..
Yep, tbh I thought she would be awful but not this bad, I also thought it would be funny but it’s not, she is dangerously stupid "
Staggering just how incompetent she is thus far, it was funny when she did porkmarkets and cheese but when she met Lavrov and didn't know her brief then surely that should have made some Tories think when they backed her ..
Telegraph poll today gives Labour 400 plus seats and Tories 4 if a GE now..
That won't happen in two years and wouldn't be healthy for any democracy in any case but they the grass roots Tories are sending a strong message and it could be her going is the only thing that they come back for ..
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"And he's gone..
According to Kuensberg..
How long did he last?  "
Technically 38 days… but 10 of those there was no government because of the queens death!!
So he has gone… what about her?? It was her policy he implemented!!! |
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Far too weak of will to lead a troop of girlscouts never mind a country as soon as the social media brigade turn out she folds just like boris did shes a coward who flip flops her way thru life like the rest of them trying to be popular |
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"They have really messed up with her. Just looking at the way she walks through should have seen she was about as much use as wet chip board"
Did you see her curtsy and King Charles reaction to her? I am no royalist but it was hilarious |
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"And he's gone..
According to Kuensberg..
How long did he last?
Technically 38 days… but 10 of those there was no government because of the queens death!!
So he has gone… what about her?? It was her policy he implemented!!!"
She won't resign, she will try and reset with a u turn on the fiscal fek up and she will say she has listened and been decisive in acting etc etc..
But yes her problem well one of many is that the fiscal fek up was her idea, the Tory party is in panic mode and the markets don't like uncertainty etc ..
She's all over the place and looking less in control and that's not a good look.. |
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"You can blag large numbers of the public, even blag your own MPs but you cannot blag the markets.
Back-benchers have forced this, and they probably feel that they can force anything right now."
Interesting that Nick Watt has just tweeted that a group of senior back benchers have said that after her sacking Kwarteng they will publicly say next week that she should go ..
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"And he's gone..
According to Kuensberg..
How long did he last?
Technically 38 days… but 10 of those there was no government because of the queens death!!
So he has gone… what about her?? It was her policy he implemented!!!
She won't resign, she will try and reset with a u turn on the fiscal fek up and she will say she has listened and been decisive in acting etc etc..
But yes her problem well one of many is that the fiscal fek up was her idea, the Tory party is in panic mode and the markets don't like uncertainty etc ..
She's all over the place and looking less in control and that's not a good look.. "
I think the more it looks like he is throwing her under the bus.. the more he can use the ammunition that she was behind it… and the thing is this was her policy she was spouting at all the Tory leaders hustings! |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"You can blag large numbers of the public, even blag your own MPs but you cannot blag the markets.
Back-benchers have forced this, and they probably feel that they can force anything right now.
Interesting that Nick Watt has just tweeted that a group of senior back benchers have said that after her sacking Kwarteng they will publicly say next week that she should go ..
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Dead woman walking! |
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"And he's gone..
According to Kuensberg..
How long did he last?
Technically 38 days… but 10 of those there was no government because of the queens death!!
So he has gone… what about her?? It was her policy he implemented!!!
She won't resign, she will try and reset with a u turn on the fiscal fek up and she will say she has listened and been decisive in acting etc etc..
But yes her problem well one of many is that the fiscal fek up was her idea, the Tory party is in panic mode and the markets don't like uncertainty etc ..
She's all over the place and looking less in control and that's not a good look..
I think the more it looks like he is throwing her under the bus.. the more he can use the ammunition that she was behind it… and the thing is this was her policy she was spouting at all the Tory leaders hustings! "
Yes, stood on it and they chose her over Sunak so to junk it now..
I think they will move against her to go, either by letters to Graham Brady or privately because this mess which her time in office is won't go away and if she leads them into the next GE they are going to be battered.. |
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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago
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"And he's gone..
According to Kuensberg..
How long did he last? It was few weeks lol, that is good, they need a new cabinet too 
We need a GE "
Yes we do, now, not in a few years, that would be the best thing to do |
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"is the clock ticing is there a taxi cumming for her she must be on borrowed time now"
,People are nor judged over what happens in a 4 week period. What matters is your performance over a two year period . Ignore the doubters and the merchants of doom and gloom. What matters is how you perform over a two year period. Let's see what the electorate think in two weeks time .
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"is the clock ticing is there a taxi cumming for her she must be on borrowed time now,People are nor judged over what happens in a 4 week period. What matters is your performance over a two year period . Ignore the doubters and the merchants of doom and gloom. What matters is how you perform over a two year period. Let's see what the electorate think in two weeks time ."
I like this attitude, you should definitely be a captain on a sinking ship, it suits you |
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"is the clock ticing is there a taxi cumming for her she must be on borrowed time now,People are nor judged over what happens in a 4 week period. What matters is your performance over a two year period . Ignore the doubters and the merchants of doom and gloom. What matters is how you perform over a two year period. Let's see what the electorate think in two weeks time ."
Why has she sacked Kwartang? |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"is the clock ticing is there a taxi cumming for her she must be on borrowed time now,People are nor judged over what happens in a 4 week period. What matters is your performance over a two year period . Ignore the doubters and the merchants of doom and gloom. What matters is how you perform over a two year period. Let's see what the electorate think in two weeks time ."
BEST POST YET BY HAY!!!!!!
Good to have you back in the satire seat after a few weeks in the wilderness. Your content was getting a bit weak but I guess it was hard to keep up with the reality unspooling before our eyes.
So Mr Hay, who do you back for being the next Chancer ooops I mean Chancellor? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"is the clock ticing is there a taxi cumming for her she must be on borrowed time now,People are nor judged over what happens in a 4 week period. What matters is your performance over a two year period . Ignore the doubters and the merchants of doom and gloom. What matters is how you perform over a two year period. Let's see what the electorate think in two weeks time .
I like this attitude, you should definitely be a captain on a sinking ship, it suits you "
Captain pat of the ss titanic…
Actually I am thinking more comical Ali.. but still… |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Press conference at 2pm … she is going to get savaged!!! Time to go out and get the popcorn!!"
Delayed till half 2…..
To be honest, who would want to be the next chancellor with such a shaky leader in front of you …
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"is the clock ticing is there a taxi cumming for her she must be on borrowed time now,People are nor judged over what happens in a 4 week period. What matters is your performance over a two year period . Ignore the doubters and the merchants of doom and gloom. What matters is how you perform over a two year period. Let's see what the electorate think in two weeks time ."
Or most people in the real world upon seeing a leader who in less than a month has gone against every fiscal rule of competency and commonsense management and having failed to listen before she went off on that course or consulted the independent overseers, might well think if she's done this much damage in such a short time what chaos will she cause in two years..
If there were an election in two weeks pat, according to the Telegraph Tory MPs would struggle to fill a mini bus..
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"Have to say this season of “the thick of it” is brilliant… the writing is fantastic!! "
...and it gets better - according to reports, the letter written by Liz Truss to Kwasi Kwarteng that was shared by Downing Street was signed by...Kwasi Kwarteng.
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"Have to say this season of “the thick of it” is brilliant… the writing is fantastic!!
...and it gets better - according to reports, the letter written by Liz Truss to Kwasi Kwarteng that was shared by Downing Street was signed by...Kwasi Kwarteng.
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She’s toast, that press conference was pathetic |
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"How did someone so thick get to be PM? Shes gone."
Because Boris purged the party of any credible candidates, she is as thick as shit and will be gone by Xmas |
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"Yeah… that press conference was not very good at all…..
There was zero accountability, contrition or humility in that statement whatsoever…."
She gave the same answer to only 4 questions from the right wing media, absolutely pathetic |
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"Yeah… that press conference was not very good at all…..
There was zero accountability, contrition or humility in that statement whatsoever….
She gave the same answer to only 4 questions from the right wing media, absolutely pathetic "
Shambolic...and she almost ran off at the end |
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"Yeah… that press conference was not very good at all…..
There was zero accountability, contrition or humility in that statement whatsoever…."
She's driven herself into a political cul-de-sac and can't get out.
A vacuous airhead that is at best a back bencher, definitely not a leader or someone who is going to install trust and respect in not only the electorate but other world leaders.
I would have preferred Sunak tbh. |
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You cannot have fiscal policies fighting against monetary policy, Central banks always win at the end, which Rishi was saying for long time - but was blamed by media labelling him mansplainig. Now all those Tories members who voted for Lizz must hand in their resignation forcing Lizz to go away. |
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Bond market is in turmoil - All those who are on defined benefits pension plan are fucked, along with defined contributor as well. But those on DB pension get paid less monthly wage, they are double fucked, especially those who are planning to retire in next two years. |
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"Bond market is in turmoil - All those who are on defined benefits pension plan are fucked, along with defined contributor as well. But those on DB pension get paid less monthly wage, they are double fucked, especially those who are planning to retire in next two years. "
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Defined benefit scheme members have guaranteed benefits, scheme employers are generally required to underwrite any shortfalls, hence why these schemes are being wound up in droves! |
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