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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Do you think President Putin will press the red button? Tension is now building and the news people believe there is a possibility that Putin may lose the plot and nuke the lot... Kaboom flash bang wallop... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"In a word no even as mad as the Russians are his generals won’t allow it to happen look how the top nazis towards the end turned on AH don’t be surprised if there’s a brolly with his name on it "
^ basically this. However mad Putin is, I can’t believe the military leadership under his control will allow a situation where their families are at risk from a nuclear war at the hands of a madman.
However, along with energy shortages, food shortages, increased prices and cost of living worries globally, the rhetoric all helps fuel panic and worry amongst the global population. It’s all going to plan. 2030. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"In a word no even as mad as the Russians are his generals won’t allow it to happen look how the top nazis towards the end turned on AH don’t be surprised if there’s a brolly with his name on it
^ basically this. However mad Putin is, I can’t believe the military leadership under his control will allow a situation where their families are at risk from a nuclear war at the hands of a madman.
However, along with energy shortages, food shortages, increased prices and cost of living worries globally, the rhetoric all helps fuel panic and worry amongst the global population. It’s all going to plan. 2030."
2030?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do you think President Putin will press the red button? Tension is now building and the news people believe there is a possibility that Putin may lose the plot and nuke the lot... Kaboom flash bang wallop..."
I do think he will do soon. He’s backed into the corner and hasn’t got many options left. Surrender to him isn’t one, unless one of his own takes him out I think he will press the button.
China and India have both condemned his threats of
using them.
Russias military has proved to be far less powerful as it made it out to be. Nuclear weapons are its last resort - which its at right now…
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By *im67Man
over a year ago
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I've already built a nuclear shelter and its stocked with porn mags and toilet roll.
But to answer your question doubt it. But if someone told me a year before covid and the pandemic would be happening I wouldn't have believed them so you can't rule it out |
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"Do you think President Putin will press the red button? Tension is now building and the news people believe there is a possibility that Putin may lose the plot and nuke the lot... Kaboom flash bang wallop...
I do think he will do soon. He’s backed into the corner and hasn’t got many options left. Surrender to him isn’t one, unless one of his own takes him out I think he will press the button.
China and India have both condemned his threats of
using them.
Russias military has proved to be far less powerful as it made it out to be. Nuclear weapons are its last resort - which its at right now…
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his military top brass won’t allow him he will be bumped off and they will have another bloke lined up war is no good for them it’s crippled their economy and they are having to resort to conscription personally I think they will surrender I hope anyway |
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It's an unlikely scenario. However I'd think we'd all prefer better odds than unlikely given the fall out of such a scenario (sorry for the bad pun).
It's not something I'm worried about. I think we need to keep the pressure on. Appeasement I believe would be the road to direct confrontation with NATO and this being a more likely out come in the future.
The wheels are really stating to fall off Putins wagon everywhere. And as time goes on I think Putin will become far more focused on defending himself internally than on anything going on in Ukraine. And as Russian history tends to repeat its self the importance of the troops actually in Russia it's self and who they are loyal to will be every thing. Not what's going on in Ukraine or the Russian troops there for it is already lost and a game of thrones is about to begin. |
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By *mp411Man
over a year ago
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It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski) |
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By *onnyadtMan
over a year ago
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"I honestly don’t know why everyone assumes the button is red?"
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If he does he loses all of his allies too and totally isolates Russia. His ego not to be a failed national leader will prevent a crazy decision, however some of his motley crew in the background I'm more wary of tbh. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski) "
NATO are at war with Russia… Ukraine is just the proxy
Can’t see it ending anytime soon |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski) "
Not a popular opinion around here. What do mean by "bad actor" Also your use of the descriptor "tiny" is interesting given President Putin's stature. |
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By *mp411Man
over a year ago
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski)
Not a popular opinion around here. What do mean by "bad actor" Also your use of the descriptor "tiny" is interesting given President Putin's stature."
Oh I support Russia... zalinski is a really bad actor and he's 5'2" putin is taller facts is facts bro |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He won't, as a few here have said his generals won't allow it. He's playing smarter tactic, starving Europe of gas and forcing up the price of services and commodities, the leaks in the Nordstream line no accident, and the Russian warships and submarines hanging around off the west coast off Europe aren't there by coincidence either. Modern warfare is about control , and if the lines of communication/ data could be interrupted or ,ahem "accidentally damaged" then we'd all be in a bit of bother to put it mildly |
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski) "
Totally right, WW2 dragged on for way too long because those pesky Americans supplied the Britain and many other nations with weapons to fight the Axis. And because evil Britain and America sent all those weapons to Russia to fight the NAZI's. The weapons shouldn't have been sent and every should have all rolled over and given in to Hitler so we could end the war  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski)
Not a popular opinion around here. What do mean by "bad actor" Also your use of the descriptor "tiny" is interesting given President Putin's stature.
Oh I support Russia... zalinski is a really bad actor and he's 5'2" putin is taller facts is facts bro"
Don't call me bro, dude. |
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By *mp411Man
over a year ago
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski)
Totally right, WW2 dragged on for way too long because those pesky Americans supplied the Britain and many other nations with weapons to fight the Axis. And because evil Britain and America sent all those weapons to Russia to fight the NAZI's. The weapons shouldn't have been sent and every should have all rolled over and given in to Hitler so we could end the war "
Well perhaps if Germany had won we wouldn't be in such a shit show now eh? |
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By *mp411Man
over a year ago
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski)
Not a popular opinion around here. What do mean by "bad actor" Also your use of the descriptor "tiny" is interesting given President Putin's stature.
Oh I support Russia... zalinski is a really bad actor and he's 5'2" putin is taller facts is facts bro
Don't call me bro, dude."
Don't call me dude, pal |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski)
Totally right, WW2 dragged on for way too long because those pesky Americans supplied the Britain and many other nations with weapons to fight the Axis. And because evil Britain and America sent all those weapons to Russia to fight the NAZI's. The weapons shouldn't have been sent and every should have all rolled over and given in to Hitler so we could end the war
Well perhaps if Germany had won we wouldn't be in such a shit show now eh? "
Possibly. We wouldn't be in any kind of show, not even a shit one! |
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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago
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He might well do…let’s not forget that WWI started off by an ‘accident’. WWII by a madman who—in the end—couldn’t care less about the very people in whose name he was supposedly waging that war and he actually wanted them to die because they were not worthy of his dream… |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski)
Not a popular opinion around here. What do mean by "bad actor" Also your use of the descriptor "tiny" is interesting given President Putin's stature.
Oh I support Russia... zalinski is a really bad actor and he's 5'2" putin is taller facts is facts bro
Don't call me bro, dude.
Don't call me dude, pal"
Well if you don't call me bro I won't call you dude.
Is that a deal, sunshine? |
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By *mp411Man
over a year ago
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski)
Totally right, WW2 dragged on for way too long because those pesky Americans supplied the Britain and many other nations with weapons to fight the Axis. And because evil Britain and America sent all those weapons to Russia to fight the NAZI's. The weapons shouldn't have been sent and every should have all rolled over and given in to Hitler so we could end the war
Well perhaps if Germany had won we wouldn't be in such a shit show now eh?
Possibly. We wouldn't be in any kind of show, not even a shit one!"
Oh I think we would he held the British in high regard hell even our "royal family" are German |
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By *mp411Man
over a year ago
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski)
Not a popular opinion around here. What do mean by "bad actor" Also your use of the descriptor "tiny" is interesting given President Putin's stature.
Oh I support Russia... zalinski is a really bad actor and he's 5'2" putin is taller facts is facts bro
Don't call me bro, dude.
Don't call me dude, pal
Well if you don't call me bro I won't call you dude.
Is that a deal, sunshine?"
Well when it's offered like that no bro hahaha |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski)
Not a popular opinion around here. What do mean by "bad actor" Also your use of the descriptor "tiny" is interesting given President Putin's stature.
Oh I support Russia... zalinski is a really bad actor and he's 5'2" putin is taller facts is facts bro
Don't call me bro, dude.
Don't call me dude, pal
Well if you don't call me bro I won't call you dude.
Is that a deal, sunshine?
Well when it's offered like that no bro hahaha "
We have friends deployed in Poland. They are practicing NBC drills every day. There has been a uptick preparedness. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"It's not putin that bothers me it's the doddery old fart in the white House... The "war" would be over now if nato led by the UK and America had not shipped billions in weapons and billions in cash to a tiny bad actor (zalinski)
Not a popular opinion around here. What do mean by "bad actor" Also your use of the descriptor "tiny" is interesting given President Putin's stature.
Oh I support Russia... zalinski is a really bad actor and he's 5'2" putin is taller facts is facts bro
Don't call me bro, dude.
Don't call me dude, pal
Well if you don't call me bro I won't call you dude.
Is that a deal, sunshine?"
get a room you two |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Do you think President Putin will press the red button? Tension is now building and the news people believe there is a possibility that Putin may lose the plot and nuke the lot... Kaboom flash bang wallop..."
No… but I do think that if putin did something like this then nato would bomb every Russian position in Ukraine.. and take out both the Baltic and Black Sea fleets for good measure… |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do you think President Putin will press the red button? Tension is now building and the news people believe there is a possibility that Putin may lose the plot and nuke the lot... Kaboom flash bang wallop...
No… but I do think that if putin did something like this then nato would bomb every Russian position in Ukraine.. and take out both the Baltic and Black Sea fleets for good measure… "
The kerch bridge was just destroyed. Putin probably is seething. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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Putin has used the threat of nuclear weapons so many times, the message is clearly to drive fear into the public and cause hesitancy at a political level.
The media lap it up and stoke the response Putin wants.
If Putin used nuclear weapons, I would imagine it would be the end of his leadership. Reading how much he wants to be seen as a great leader and tactician I doubt his ego could accept being remembered by Russians as the Russian leader who failed and brought Russia to its knees.
Short answer, I hope not  |
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Mr putin has said teeth will be knocked out if russian borders are crossed by any military other than russian, the one thing he has not done is present a placard with a drawing of a bomb with nuke written on the side. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Russia must be a cursed country. With so much natural resources and potential, it has been held back by corrupt leadership its unreal.
Other countries like India, China, Japan and Korea have surpassed it in terms of growth and welfare of the people, even though these countries started behind Russia. |
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I can possibly see him chucking a smaller tactical nuke or two at millitary targets in Ukraine if Russia keeps losing ground in the areas they are trying to claim. As for a wider nuclear conflict, I can't see it. Hopefully not just me wishfully thinking. |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"Do you think President Putin will press the red button? Tension is now building and the news people believe there is a possibility that Putin may lose the plot and nuke the lot... Kaboom flash bang wallop..."
There's really not much point in worrying about something you have no control over before or after it happens |
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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago
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"I can possibly see him chucking a smaller tactical nuke or two at millitary targets in Ukraine if Russia keeps losing ground in the areas they are trying to claim. As for a wider nuclear conflict, I can't see it. Hopefully not just me wishfully thinking."
We should all wish it doesn’t happen. Who was it who said that if there is a WWIII with nuclear weapons, WWIV will be fought with sticks? |
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By *mp411Man
over a year ago
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"I can possibly see him chucking a smaller tactical nuke or two at millitary targets in Ukraine if Russia keeps losing ground in the areas they are trying to claim. As for a wider nuclear conflict, I can't see it. Hopefully not just me wishfully thinking.
We should all wish it doesn’t happen. Who was it who said that if there is a WWIII with nuclear weapons, WWIV will be fought with sticks?"
Albert Einstein |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The russians carnt eaven handel a small country like ukrain never minde ataking the west.before he could start ww3 the military would put him under house arest like they did with mick gorbachev.no russian can stay in power without military backing and the military know the days of big bad russia are long on the past |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"The russians carnt eaven handel a small country like ukrain never minde ataking the west.before he could start ww3 the military would put him under house arest like they did with mick gorbachev.no russian can stay in power without military backing and the military know the days of big bad russia are long on the past"
I've a horrible feeling we haven't seen their true capabilities, don't forget Ukraine has a lot of Russian people living there and nuking them wouldn't be as popular as nuking London.
Still don't think it will happen |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"I can possibly see him chucking a smaller tactical nuke or two at millitary targets in Ukraine if Russia keeps losing ground in the areas they are trying to claim. As for a wider nuclear conflict, I can't see it. Hopefully not just me wishfully thinking."
and he knows that would be suicide as he would loose china & india as " alies " immediately he also knows that NATO would respond with a massive conventional air attacks which would wipe out his command and control networks within hours especially those oriented towards Ukraine his black sea fleet would cease to exist within hours. .trade sanctions and blockades would be imposed that would see his country isolated like no other with winter approaching that would be costly on the civilian population
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"I can possibly see him chucking a smaller tactical nuke or two at millitary targets in Ukraine if Russia keeps losing ground in the areas they are trying to claim. As for a wider nuclear conflict, I can't see it. Hopefully not just me wishfully thinking.and he knows that would be suicide as he would loose china & india as " alies " immediately he also knows that NATO would respond with a massive conventional air attacks which would wipe out his command and control networks within hours especially those oriented towards Ukraine his black sea fleet would cease to exist within hours. .trade sanctions and blockades would be imposed that would see his country isolated like no other with winter approaching that would be costly on the civilian population "
I'm not sure why you think he would lose the support of China and India, they have no morals now what would change ? |
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"I can possibly see him chucking a smaller tactical nuke or two at millitary targets in Ukraine if Russia keeps losing ground in the areas they are trying to claim. As for a wider nuclear conflict, I can't see it. Hopefully not just me wishfully thinking.and he knows that would be suicide as he would loose china & india as " alies " immediately he also knows that NATO would respond with a massive conventional air attacks which would wipe out his command and control networks within hours especially those oriented towards Ukraine his black sea fleet would cease to exist within hours. .trade sanctions and blockades would be imposed that would see his country isolated like no other with winter approaching that would be costly on the civilian population
I'm not sure why you think he would lose the support of China and India, they have no morals now what would change ?"
Not sure China are allied so much . Just 2 weeks ago they announced they're no longer buying gas from them. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"I can possibly see him chucking a smaller tactical nuke or two at millitary targets in Ukraine if Russia keeps losing ground in the areas they are trying to claim. As for a wider nuclear conflict, I can't see it. Hopefully not just me wishfully thinking.and he knows that would be suicide as he would loose china & india as " alies " immediately he also knows that NATO would respond with a massive conventional air attacks which would wipe out his command and control networks within hours especially those oriented towards Ukraine his black sea fleet would cease to exist within hours. .trade sanctions and blockades would be imposed that would see his country isolated like no other with winter approaching that would be costly on the civilian population
I'm not sure why you think he would lose the support of China and India, they have no morals now what would change ?"
nuking someone changes the game they would be just as much pariahas as Putin if they continue to back him and they know just what is about to come putins way and want none of it for themselves .despite chinas current military build ups especialy its navy they are no where near ready to take on Nato and they know it |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
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"I can possibly see him chucking a smaller tactical nuke or two at millitary targets in Ukraine if Russia keeps losing ground in the areas they are trying to claim. As for a wider nuclear conflict, I can't see it. Hopefully not just me wishfully thinking.and he knows that would be suicide as he would loose china & india as " alies " immediately he also knows that NATO would respond with a massive conventional air attacks which would wipe out his command and control networks within hours especially those oriented towards Ukraine his black sea fleet would cease to exist within hours. .trade sanctions and blockades would be imposed that would see his country isolated like no other with winter approaching that would be costly on the civilian population
I'm not sure why you think he would lose the support of China and India, they have no morals now what would change ?nuking someone changes the game they would be just as much pariahas as Putin if they continue to back him and they know just what is about to come putins way and want none of it for themselves .despite chinas current military build ups especialy its navy they are no where near ready to take on Nato and they know it "
They're not really backing Putin, just buying up cheap oil and gas. Don't see why they would change that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This Putin is mad narrative is total nonsense, but of course it's easier to think that then to do some research into why Russia is behaving as it is.
Chapter 1 of the bestselling book "Prisoners of Geography" by Tim Marshall will tell you everything you need to know about Russia's motives for invading Ukraine.
Just as well for everyone that Putin isn't mad.
Evil, self absorbed etc yes...but not mad. |
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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago
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The first UK City to be targeted will be Liverpool,not London..
London has properties owned by Russian olygharchs...
Liverpool has aligned itself with Ukraine ,hosting the Euro song contest..
On the plus side....with the destruction of Liverpool ( best estimates ..a week on Tuesday)UK won't come last in the contest  |
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has anyone stopped to think hat it is largely due to the existence of the nuclear deterrent that Putin is getting away with what he is already doing.
Other nations are so shit scared of him 'pressing the red button' that they dare not deal with him firmly and decisively as he gets his own way with comparative ease by threatening to press said button. |
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"The first UK City to be targeted will be Liverpool,not London..
London has properties owned by Russian olygharchs...
Liverpool has aligned itself with Ukraine ,hosting the Euro song contest..
On the plus side....with the destruction of Liverpool ( best estimates ..a week on Tuesday)UK won't come last in the contest "
I'm not sure which is more pathetic, bringing the song contest into politics, or the fact that it even still attracts an audience! |
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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago
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"The first UK City to be targeted will be Liverpool,not London..
London has properties owned by Russian olygharchs...
Liverpool has aligned itself with Ukraine ,hosting the Euro song contest..
On the plus side....with the destruction of Liverpool ( best estimates ..a week on Tuesday)UK won't come last in the contest
I'm not sure which is more pathetic, bringing the song contest into politics, or the fact that it even still attracts an audience!"
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or failing to have a sense of humour..pretty pathetic too |
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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago
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"I honestly don’t know why everyone assumes the button is red?"
..there isn't one..the red button on the USA presidents desk is to call a valet....
Nuclear launch codes are carried in a brief case( 2 actually) by the military |
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