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By *asycouple1971 OP   Couple  over a year ago

midlands

Not seen this many strikes since the 70s/80s.

Seems like management isnt backing down and the strikes will continue.

I back the strikers even if it affects me but cant see the strikes ending.

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By *illingToHelpMan  over a year ago

Oldham or South Shore

I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action.

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By *ohn KanakaMan  over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

100% back the strikers. Anyone standing against this government is deserving of support

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

I support strikes if I feel they're reasonable. I don't support them if I think they're not. Usually if people are prepared to lose wages they've got a pretty good reason

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By *ily Con CarneTV/TS  over a year ago

Cornwall

I hate people who go on strike for whatever reason

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"I hate people who go on strike for whatever reason "

Why?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"I hate people who go on strike for whatever reason "

You're going to be spending a lot of time hating this winter

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes

Surely it depends on the reasons for striking and on a case by case basis. I don't see how anyone can support or not support strikes regardless of the concerns.

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By *ily Con CarneTV/TS  over a year ago

Cornwall


"I hate people who go on strike for whatever reason

You're going to be spending a lot of time hating this winter "

Yeah pretty much x

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Surely it depends on the reasons for striking and on a case by case basis. I don't see how anyone can support or not support strikes regardless of the concerns. "

Yep. Not many people are going to lose pay on a whim though and there are checks and balances in place before a strike can be called.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action."

I'm playing the dick.... But would you support a bankers strike? Or footballers strike ?

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By *rauntonbananaMan  over a year ago

Braunton


"I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action."

Bollocks

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By *illingToHelpMan  over a year ago

Oldham or South Shore


"I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action.I'm playing the dick.... But would you support a bankers strike? Or footballers strike ? "

If they were being exploited, yes. It’s doubtful that they would be griping over pay, though.

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By *illingToHelpMan  over a year ago

Oldham or South Shore


"I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action.

Bollocks "

What, exactly, is “bollocks” about what I wrote?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action.

Bollocks "

Interesting theory , could you expand on what the bollocks theory is..?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action."

Sensible business owners pay their staff well and treat them well.

A happy workforce is a productive and loyal workforce.

Modern employers and employees know this is a mutually beneficial relationship and work together for their mutual good.

The days of dogmatic them v us, employers v workforce, enemy's by nature, are largely and thankfully gone.

Winston

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By *illingToHelpMan  over a year ago

Oldham or South Shore


"I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action.

Sensible business owners pay their staff well and treat them well.

A happy workforce is a productive and loyal workforce.

Modern employers and employees know this is a mutually beneficial relationship and work together for their mutual good.

The days of dogmatic them v us, employers v workforce, enemy's by nature, are largely and thankfully gone.

Winston

"

You’ve made your mind up. I won’t try to confuse you with the facts.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action.I'm playing the dick.... But would you support a bankers strike? Or footballers strike ?

If they were being exploited, yes. It’s doubtful that they would be griping over pay, though."

aha. So this is about exploitation. How are bankers and footballers able to win the marxist war ?

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan  over a year ago

Kent

Think the footballers might have a case of exploitation with the amount of injuries being picked up due to the intensive playing schedule

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action.I'm playing the dick.... But would you support a bankers strike? Or footballers strike ?

If they were being exploited, yes. It’s doubtful that they would be griping over pay, though.aha. So this is about exploitation. How are bankers and footballers able to win the marxist war ?"

If you need that explained to you, you probably shouldn't be on a over 18 website.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action.

Sensible business owners pay their staff well and treat them well.

A happy workforce is a productive and loyal workforce.

Modern employers and employees know this is a mutually beneficial relationship and work together for their mutual good.

The days of dogmatic them v us, employers v workforce, enemy's by nature, are largely and thankfully gone.

Winston

You’ve made your mind up. I won’t try to confuse you with the facts."

Go on, I'm always happy to hear another point of view.

Although you do seem to have made your mind up about someone you know nothing about.

What is it you disagree with in my post?

Winston

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this "

Lol. Not sure if you're serious, or demonstrating why people strike.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan  over a year ago

Kent


"Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this "

Change your working practices then you can get there any day of the week

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this

Lol. Not sure if you're serious, or demonstrating why people strike."

Dead serious. If the reason they strike is because of an issue with their employer, why am I being punished? I can’t change anything, and it only makes me resent them

My property is being held because of their strike. I paid for that and need it today. So fuck them. Zero support from me.

And this isn’t like train strikes where an alternative is offered. I just can’t pick up my stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this

Change your working practices then you can get there any day of the week"

If they weren’t open on Saturdays I’d either do that or use a different courier

But they are open on Saturdays. I’ve paid delivery, I’ve turned up to get it. Take your issues out on your boss, not random customers that can’t do anything about it.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this

Lol. Not sure if you're serious, or demonstrating why people strike.

Dead serious. If the reason they strike is because of an issue with their employer, why am I being punished? I can’t change anything, and it only makes me resent them

My property is being held because of their strike. I paid for that and need it today. So fuck them. Zero support from me.

And this isn’t like train strikes where an alternative is offered. I just can’t pick up my stuff. "

If it didn't effect you personally, hypothetically speaking, how would you feel?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this

Lol. Not sure if you're serious, or demonstrating why people strike.

Dead serious. If the reason they strike is because of an issue with their employer, why am I being punished? I can’t change anything, and it only makes me resent them

My property is being held because of their strike. I paid for that and need it today. So fuck them. Zero support from me.

And this isn’t like train strikes where an alternative is offered. I just can’t pick up my stuff.

If it didn't effect you personally, hypothetically speaking, how would you feel?"

I’d support it in a way I could, but I dunno how I could do that, so I guess I’d be neutral

If you want support for your strike, I’d try to fuck over the customers as little as possible. That’s why train strikes are organised so that trains still run, to send a message without fucking the consumer

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I will always back a strike, no matter how much it affects my life.

From a Marxist perspective, anyone who has a boss is in a continual war against the business owners. And the business owners are in a continual war against their employees. It’s the bourgeoisie Vs the proletariat.

The bourgeoisie want their business to make the most amount of money by putting the least amount of money back in to it. Basically, maximum output with minimal input. It is the most basic principle in Capitalism. Worker’s wages are a huge input, so the business owners want to keep it as low as possible.

The proletariat (workers) want their Labour power compensated at as high a wage as possible. Basically, they want highest compensation for the least amount of work.

The Marxist wars are about finding a middle ground that everyone is happy with. As a worker, I want my own Labour power, and everyone else’s, to be high. So in the name of solidarity with my fellow workers and employees (not just in my job, but in the grander, universal sense of employees) I will always support workers fighting for better pay and work conditions, because, at some point, the better the workers’ rewards are in one business sector, the better mine will be in the future.

If you are employed, and you receive a wage, you should ALWAYS support strike action.I'm playing the dick.... But would you support a bankers strike? Or footballers strike ?

If they were being exploited, yes. It’s doubtful that they would be griping over pay, though.aha. So this is about exploitation. How are bankers and footballers able to win the marxist war ?

If you need that explained to you, you probably shouldn't be on a over 18 website. "

I can't sqaure off the original post of which suggested all workers are in a Marxist war and we should support all strikes, with their latter point that suggested only some workers are exploited and worthy of support. I'm asking them to clarify their views. Or maybe bankers and footballers are explouted and deserve even more.

What do you think ? Should more money go to club owners and less to players?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this

Lol. Not sure if you're serious, or demonstrating why people strike.

Dead serious. If the reason they strike is because of an issue with their employer, why am I being punished? I can’t change anything, and it only makes me resent them

My property is being held because of their strike. I paid for that and need it today. So fuck them. Zero support from me.

And this isn’t like train strikes where an alternative is offered. I just can’t pick up my stuff.

If it didn't effect you personally, hypothetically speaking, how would you feel?

I’d support it in a way I could, but I dunno how I could do that, so I guess I’d be neutral

If you want support for your strike, I’d try to fuck over the customers as little as possible. That’s why train strikes are organised so that trains still run, to send a message without fucking the consumer "

Interesting.

Do you think a % of the annoyance could be directed towards the employer for creating the conditions that make the workers feel like that have no opinion left other than to strike?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this

Lol. Not sure if you're serious, or demonstrating why people strike.

Dead serious. If the reason they strike is because of an issue with their employer, why am I being punished? I can’t change anything, and it only makes me resent them

My property is being held because of their strike. I paid for that and need it today. So fuck them. Zero support from me.

And this isn’t like train strikes where an alternative is offered. I just can’t pick up my stuff.

If it didn't effect you personally, hypothetically speaking, how would you feel?

I’d support it in a way I could, but I dunno how I could do that, so I guess I’d be neutral

If you want support for your strike, I’d try to fuck over the customers as little as possible. That’s why train strikes are organised so that trains still run, to send a message without fucking the consumer

Interesting.

Do you think a % of the annoyance could be directed towards the employer for creating the conditions that make the workers feel like that have no opinion left other than to strike?"

Tough question, I guess so, but at the same time, there’s a labour shortage apparently, if you don’t like your low paid job, go get another low paid job. There’s plenty out there.

This is specific to Royal Mail though, I dunno about the train strikes or other strikes happening

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this

Lol. Not sure if you're serious, or demonstrating why people strike.

Dead serious. If the reason they strike is because of an issue with their employer, why am I being punished? I can’t change anything, and it only makes me resent them

My property is being held because of their strike. I paid for that and need it today. So fuck them. Zero support from me.

And this isn’t like train strikes where an alternative is offered. I just can’t pick up my stuff.

If it didn't effect you personally, hypothetically speaking, how would you feel?

I’d support it in a way I could, but I dunno how I could do that, so I guess I’d be neutral

If you want support for your strike, I’d try to fuck over the customers as little as possible. That’s why train strikes are organised so that trains still run, to send a message without fucking the consumer

Interesting.

Do you think a % of the annoyance could be directed towards the employer for creating the conditions that make the workers feel like that have no opinion left other than to strike?

Tough question, I guess so, but at the same time, there’s a labour shortage apparently, if you don’t like your low paid job, go get another low paid job. There’s plenty out there.

This is specific to Royal Mail though, I dunno about the train strikes or other strikes happening "

I don't agree that finding another job where you're not treated well, is the answer. I do support people striving for fairer working conditions.

But I do understand that it causes problems for people. Although that is part of the point, to cause disruption.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this

Lol. Not sure if you're serious, or demonstrating why people strike.

Dead serious. If the reason they strike is because of an issue with their employer, why am I being punished? I can’t change anything, and it only makes me resent them

My property is being held because of their strike. I paid for that and need it today. So fuck them. Zero support from me.

And this isn’t like train strikes where an alternative is offered. I just can’t pick up my stuff.

If it didn't effect you personally, hypothetically speaking, how would you feel?

I’d support it in a way I could, but I dunno how I could do that, so I guess I’d be neutral

If you want support for your strike, I’d try to fuck over the customers as little as possible. That’s why train strikes are organised so that trains still run, to send a message without fucking the consumer

Interesting.

Do you think a % of the annoyance could be directed towards the employer for creating the conditions that make the workers feel like that have no opinion left other than to strike?

Tough question, I guess so, but at the same time, there’s a labour shortage apparently, if you don’t like your low paid job, go get another low paid job. There’s plenty out there.

This is specific to Royal Mail though, I dunno about the train strikes or other strikes happening

I don't agree that finding another job where you're not treated well, is the answer. I do support people striving for fairer working conditions.

But I do understand that it causes problems for people. Although that is part of the point, to cause disruption."

Disruption I’m ok with. Completely closing the branch isn’t disruption to me.

And I guess I just disagree. Go get another job if you don’t like your current one.

In fact, that would send a better message. All quit and go get different badly paid jobs. There’s plenty of them out there that pay just as much as Royal Mail do.

Maybe I’m missing the point. I don’t see warehouse workers or site labourers striking. Why specifically Royal Mail? What exactly does “not treated well” mean? Why do they think they deserve more pay or more benefits over any other low paid worker in the UK?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Disclaimer, I’m probably unreasonably annoyed by this because what I needed was needed for today and today only

So instead, I had to drive an hour to get it somewhere else, and now I have to arrange for it to be returned from the sorting office and a refund.

All because they couldn’t just have the branch open but maybe running at half speed or whatever.

They don’t just close the tube when the trains strike. They cause a disruption but still have some trains running. I can get on board with that

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

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"Fuck the strikes.

I’ve got stuff at the sorting office. I can only get there on a Saturday. And they are striking today

My property is in there and they won’t let me get it because of a grievance with their boss. So fuck them. I didn’t ask to get dragged into this

Lol. Not sure if you're serious, or demonstrating why people strike.

Dead serious. If the reason they strike is because of an issue with their employer, why am I being punished? I can’t change anything, and it only makes me resent them

My property is being held because of their strike. I paid for that and need it today. So fuck them. Zero support from me.

And this isn’t like train strikes where an alternative is offered. I just can’t pick up my stuff.

If it didn't effect you personally, hypothetically speaking, how would you feel?

I’d support it in a way I could, but I dunno how I could do that, so I guess I’d be neutral

If you want support for your strike, I’d try to fuck over the customers as little as possible. That’s why train strikes are organised so that trains still run, to send a message without fucking the consumer

Interesting.

Do you think a % of the annoyance could be directed towards the employer for creating the conditions that make the workers feel like that have no opinion left other than to strike?

Tough question, I guess so, but at the same time, there’s a labour shortage apparently, if you don’t like your low paid job, go get another low paid job. There’s plenty out there.

This is specific to Royal Mail though, I dunno about the train strikes or other strikes happening

I don't agree that finding another job where you're not treated well, is the answer. I do support people striving for fairer working conditions.

But I do understand that it causes problems for people. Although that is part of the point, to cause disruption.

Disruption I’m ok with. Completely closing the branch isn’t disruption to me.

And I guess I just disagree. Go get another job if you don’t like your current one.

In fact, that would send a better message. All quit and go get different badly paid jobs. There’s plenty of them out there that pay just as much as Royal Mail do.

Maybe I’m missing the point. I don’t see warehouse workers or site labourers striking. Why specifically Royal Mail? What exactly does “not treated well” mean? Why do they think they deserve more pay or more benefits over any other low paid worker in the UK? "

The CWU site has a page explaining why, from their perspective. You'll find it easy enough. But the summary is:

"Why is the CWU in dispute with Royal Mail over pay?

Our Royal Mail members have had an unagreed 2 per cent pay deal imposed on them.

This is at a time when RPI inflation is currently running at 11.8 per cent and when Royal Mail has announced Group profits of £758 million and when the company is paying out many millions to private shareholders.

In a national strike ballot over pay, our Royal Mail members voted by a 97.6 per cent majority to take action.

This action took place on Friday 26th and Wednesday 31st August as well as Thursday 8th September."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Let’s put this into perspective, these strikes are the inevitable consequence of 12 years of tory rule.

Where arrogance and incompetence go hand in hand.

They have sold lies to the British people, all the while taking a sledgehammer to public services, lining the pockets of their chums, reducing freedoms, increasing the wealth gap, and consolidating power to prevent anyone from questioning their authority.

All those people who were duped into keeping the tory train running, must be regretting the day they

Went into the polling booth and put an X against a tory candidate.

Force an election now, let the people decide.

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