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Truss + Labour's 33% lead
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Sooo... I think it's fair to say Truss isn't doing great so far.
For her 1st major act, she produced a budget with Kwarteng that sent the pound into meltdown, seriously risked fucking interest rates + mortgages even more + almost fucked up a whole load of pensions. (Apparently only the Bank of England's intervention staved off the pension catastrophe.)
She then went into hiding for days while the storm grew ever bigger. When she finally popped up on a cluster of local radio stations, she utterly failed to answer tricky questions or calm fears. She also ruled out backtracking on the budget that had kicked the shitstorm off. Making herself look ever more incompetent & mad.
And now a yougov poll shows Labour with a 33% lead over the Tories.
Great job, Liz. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sooo... I think it's fair to say Truss isn't doing great so far.
For her 1st major act, she produced a budget with Kwarteng that sent the pound into meltdown, seriously risked fucking interest rates + mortgages even more + almost fucked up a whole load of pensions. (Apparently only the Bank of England's intervention staved off the pension catastrophe.)
She then went into hiding for days while the storm grew ever bigger. When she finally popped up on a cluster of local radio stations, she utterly failed to answer tricky questions or calm fears. She also ruled out backtracking on the budget that had kicked the shitstorm off. Making herself look ever more incompetent & mad.
And now a yougov poll shows Labour with a 33% lead over the Tories.
Great job, Liz."
As high as that?  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently."
Yup all just noise. Nothing to see here if you press your hands over your eyes hard enough. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Yup all just noise. Nothing to see here if you press your hands over your eyes hard enough."
Labour Government by the end of the month? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Yup all just noise. Nothing to see here if you press your hands over your eyes hard enough.
Labour Government by the end of the month?"
Course not. It's all just noise. I'm sure Truss will soon become Empress of these isles. All hail Empress Truss. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Yup all just noise. Nothing to see here if you press your hands over your eyes hard enough.
Labour Government by the end of the month?
Course not. It's all just noise. I'm sure Truss will soon become Empress of these isles. All hail Empress Truss."
So when is the Labour Government starting? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Yup all just noise. Nothing to see here if you press your hands over your eyes hard enough.
Labour Government by the end of the month?
Course not. It's all just noise. I'm sure Truss will soon become Empress of these isles. All hail Empress Truss.
So when is the Labour Government starting?"
Never. There's nothing to see here, as you so keenly hinted. All just noise innit. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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Tax cuts for the wealthy, funded by borrowing because your party has failed to grow the economy in over a decade. Truss has put the country on a trajectory for an IMF bailout loan.
So much winning! |
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently."
Completely agree.
We've seen countless "surely this is the last straw for the electorate" moments over the past 12 years. But it doesn't matter how badly the Tories fuck over the country, their propaganda machine will kick in before the next GE. They're safe. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Completely agree.
We've seen countless "surely this is the last straw for the electorate" moments over the past 12 years. But it doesn't matter how badly the Tories fuck over the country, their propaganda machine will kick in before the next GE. They're safe. "
I don't think they're safe anymore. After Johnson + Truss. Time will tell, I guess. |
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Completely agree.
We've seen countless "surely this is the last straw for the electorate" moments over the past 12 years. But it doesn't matter how badly the Tories fuck over the country, their propaganda machine will kick in before the next GE. They're safe.
I don't think they're safe anymore. After Johnson + Truss. Time will tell, I guess."
They'll install someone else in plenty of time before the GE, and slander the fuck out of everyone else. Boom. 5 more years. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Completely agree.
We've seen countless "surely this is the last straw for the electorate" moments over the past 12 years. But it doesn't matter how badly the Tories fuck over the country, their propaganda machine will kick in before the next GE. They're safe.
I don't think they're safe anymore. After Johnson + Truss. Time will tell, I guess.
They'll install someone else in plenty of time before the GE, and slander the fuck out of everyone else. Boom. 5 more years."
I doubt they think they can get away with installing another new PM so soon after Johnson was forced out in disgrace. And on the flip side they can't risk waiting for long because they'd need to give a new PM a run up to the next election. I think they're fucked either way.
Then again, there's an outside chance they may try to bring Johnson back. It's crazy, but I can see they'd have people in the party who would push that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Completely agree.
We've seen countless "surely this is the last straw for the electorate" moments over the past 12 years. But it doesn't matter how badly the Tories fuck over the country, their propaganda machine will kick in before the next GE. They're safe.
I don't think they're safe anymore. After Johnson + Truss. Time will tell, I guess.
They'll install someone else in plenty of time before the GE, and slander the fuck out of everyone else. Boom. 5 more years."
Surely they have scraped the barrel of lying and utterly incompetent choices of who to install. |
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Completely agree.
We've seen countless "surely this is the last straw for the electorate" moments over the past 12 years. But it doesn't matter how badly the Tories fuck over the country, their propaganda machine will kick in before the next GE. They're safe.
I don't think they're safe anymore. After Johnson + Truss. Time will tell, I guess.
They'll install someone else in plenty of time before the GE, and slander the fuck out of everyone else. Boom. 5 more years.
I doubt they think they can get away with installing another new PM so soon after Johnson was forced out in disgrace. And on the flip side they can't risk waiting for long because they'd need to give a new PM a run up to the next election. I think they're fucked either way.
Then again, there's an outside chance they may try to bring Johnson back. It's crazy, but I can see they'd have people in the party who would push that."
There's a lot of time before the next GE.
They could do a lot more damage by then.
I could be completely wrong of course. But I don't think the are in danger, it seems like their voters either swallow all their distraction tactics (look at those immigrants), are so scared of any change, or are just not paying attention. |
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Completely agree.
We've seen countless "surely this is the last straw for the electorate" moments over the past 12 years. But it doesn't matter how badly the Tories fuck over the country, their propaganda machine will kick in before the next GE. They're safe.
I don't think they're safe anymore. After Johnson + Truss. Time will tell, I guess.
They'll install someone else in plenty of time before the GE, and slander the fuck out of everyone else. Boom. 5 more years.
Surely they have scraped the barrel of lying and utterly incompetent choices of who to install. "
Mogg? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Completely agree.
We've seen countless "surely this is the last straw for the electorate" moments over the past 12 years. But it doesn't matter how badly the Tories fuck over the country, their propaganda machine will kick in before the next GE. They're safe.
I don't think they're safe anymore. After Johnson + Truss. Time will tell, I guess.
They'll install someone else in plenty of time before the GE, and slander the fuck out of everyone else. Boom. 5 more years.
I doubt they think they can get away with installing another new PM so soon after Johnson was forced out in disgrace. And on the flip side they can't risk waiting for long because they'd need to give a new PM a run up to the next election. I think they're fucked either way.
Then again, there's an outside chance they may try to bring Johnson back. It's crazy, but I can see they'd have people in the party who would push that.
There's a lot of time before the next GE.
They could do a lot more damage by then.
I could be completely wrong of course. But I don't think the are in danger, it seems like their voters either swallow all their distraction tactics (look at those immigrants), are so scared of any change, or are just not paying attention."
Oh I'm sure they will do even more damage by then. But I also think they're finished and the clock is just ticking down now. We'll see. |
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Completely agree.
We've seen countless "surely this is the last straw for the electorate" moments over the past 12 years. But it doesn't matter how badly the Tories fuck over the country, their propaganda machine will kick in before the next GE. They're safe.
I don't think they're safe anymore. After Johnson + Truss. Time will tell, I guess.
They'll install someone else in plenty of time before the GE, and slander the fuck out of everyone else. Boom. 5 more years.
I doubt they think they can get away with installing another new PM so soon after Johnson was forced out in disgrace. And on the flip side they can't risk waiting for long because they'd need to give a new PM a run up to the next election. I think they're fucked either way.
Then again, there's an outside chance they may try to bring Johnson back. It's crazy, but I can see they'd have people in the party who would push that.
There's a lot of time before the next GE.
They could do a lot more damage by then.
I could be completely wrong of course. But I don't think the are in danger, it seems like their voters either swallow all their distraction tactics (look at those immigrants), are so scared of any change, or are just not paying attention.
Oh I'm sure they will do even more damage by then. But I also think they're finished and the clock is just ticking down now. We'll see."
Fingers crossed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Completely agree.
We've seen countless "surely this is the last straw for the electorate" moments over the past 12 years. But it doesn't matter how badly the Tories fuck over the country, their propaganda machine will kick in before the next GE. They're safe.
I don't think they're safe anymore. After Johnson + Truss. Time will tell, I guess.
They'll install someone else in plenty of time before the GE, and slander the fuck out of everyone else. Boom. 5 more years.
Surely they have scraped the barrel of lying and utterly incompetent choices of who to install.
Mogg?"
Oh fuck |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
Completely agree.
We've seen countless "surely this is the last straw for the electorate" moments over the past 12 years. But it doesn't matter how badly the Tories fuck over the country, their propaganda machine will kick in before the next GE. They're safe.
I don't think they're safe anymore. After Johnson + Truss. Time will tell, I guess.
They'll install someone else in plenty of time before the GE, and slander the fuck out of everyone else. Boom. 5 more years.
Surely they have scraped the barrel of lying and utterly incompetent choices of who to install.
Mogg?
Oh fuck"
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently."
You do know it’s only at 1.10 because the BOE is printing money to buy up the government debt for the next 2 weeks AND once that is done interest rates going up by 2%
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"That 33 point lead is an outlier…. The other poll out tonight only has labour up by 22…
Signed…..
Tories in denial "
But will Labour take advantage of it? The GE starting gun has been fired....let's see how it pans out . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No General Election for two years. It's just noise.
And £ now USD 1.10, not so much noise about it on the forum recently.
You do know it’s only at 1.10 because the BOE is printing money to buy up the government debt for the next 2 weeks AND once that is done interest rates going up by 2%
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But the sun always shines in Tory land.  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"That 33 point lead is an outlier…. The other poll out tonight only has labour up by 22…
Signed…..
Tories in denial
But will Labour take advantage of it? The GE starting gun has been fired....let's see how it pans out ."
I want to see how many Tory mps are going to vote for this in parliament… because it’s a budget not a budget if a “budget “ was voted down in normal circumstances that would be an automatic vote of no confidence and a general election
I bet they are going say because it is a fiscal event.. that rule doesn’t count
But if you are a tory mp.. unless you live in the safest seat possible are you going to want your name anywhere near this for the record
Especially when people find out that to pay for the rich tax cuts benefits and allowances are not going to go up and they are going to cut front line services |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"That 33 point lead is an outlier…. The other poll out tonight only has labour up by 22…
Signed…..
Tories in denial
But will Labour take advantage of it? The GE starting gun has been fired....let's see how it pans out .
I want to see how many Tory mps are going to vote for this in parliament… because it’s a budget not a budget if a “budget “ was voted down in normal circumstances that would be an automatic vote of no confidence and a general election
I bet they are going say because it is a fiscal event.. that rule doesn’t count
But if you are a tory mp.. unless you live in the safest seat possible are you going to want your name anywhere near this for the record
Especially when people find out that to pay for the rich tax cuts benefits and allowances are not going to go up and they are going to cut front line services "
Red wall Conservative MPs will be shitting it. If Labour play it right, then it will be a bloodbath.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"That 33 point lead is an outlier…. The other poll out tonight only has labour up by 22…
Signed…..
Tories in denial
But will Labour take advantage of it? The GE starting gun has been fired....let's see how it pans out .
I want to see how many Tory mps are going to vote for this in parliament… because it’s a budget not a budget if a “budget “ was voted down in normal circumstances that would be an automatic vote of no confidence and a general election
I bet they are going say because it is a fiscal event.. that rule doesn’t count
But if you are a tory mp.. unless you live in the safest seat possible are you going to want your name anywhere near this for the record
Especially when people find out that to pay for the rich tax cuts benefits and allowances are not going to go up and they are going to cut front line services
Red wall Conservative MPs will be shitting it. If Labour play it right, then it will be a bloodbath.
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Labour would crush them in the north and the big cities.. the Lib Dem’s would crush them in the south and the shires….
The tories would probably be out of power for a long time unless labour found a way to screw it up |
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I'll give it 3 weeks before interest rate hits 20%. Every minute that Kwasi Truss is left in charge does more damage. The only way out for the tory party would be to sack the entire cabinet including the PM and build a new government consisting only of seasoned politicians that were around well before Johnson and have never been touched by the poison. Even that would be marginal as to whether the UK economy could be rescued.
My preference would be for an immediate dissolution of the government and the formation of an emergency cross-party cabinet to run the country temporarily until a general election could be held. This cabinet automatically excluding any politician who served under or voted in favour of Truss or Johnson. This would be only way to cut the rot out of British politics and restore some semblence of sanity to the situation. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'll give it 3 weeks before interest rate hits 20%. Every minute that Kwasi Truss is left in charge does more damage. The only way out for the tory party would be to sack the entire cabinet including the PM and build a new government consisting only of seasoned politicians that were around well before Johnson and have never been touched by the poison. Even that would be marginal as to whether the UK economy could be rescued.
My preference would be for an immediate dissolution of the government and the formation of an emergency cross-party cabinet to run the country temporarily until a general election could be held. This cabinet automatically excluding any politician who served under or voted in favour of Truss or Johnson. This would be only way to cut the rot out of British politics and restore some semblence of sanity to the situation."
Oh they'll never do anything like that.
My prediction: Truss + Kwarteng will resist a Uturn until far too much damage has been done. Then they will Uturn. And the Tories will tear themselves + the country apart in the process. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll give it 3 weeks before interest rate hits 20%. Every minute that Kwasi Truss is left in charge does more damage. The only way out for the tory party would be to sack the entire cabinet including the PM and build a new government consisting only of seasoned politicians that were around well before Johnson and have never been touched by the poison. Even that would be marginal as to whether the UK economy could be rescued.
My preference would be for an immediate dissolution of the government and the formation of an emergency cross-party cabinet to run the country temporarily until a general election could be held. This cabinet automatically excluding any politician who served under or voted in favour of Truss or Johnson. This would be only way to cut the rot out of British politics and restore some semblence of sanity to the situation.
Oh they'll never do anything like that.
My prediction: Truss + Kwarteng will resist a Uturn until far too much damage has been done. Then they will Uturn. And the Tories will tear themselves + the country apart in the process."
The more they hold out the higher the support for Labour and other parties becomes.
Tory HQ must be absolutely livid at the moment, they’ve lost credibility, and its easier to retain a voter than gain a new one. I do not see this ending well, unless Tory MP’s pull their fingers out of their arses and go for full rebellion.
I do not see that the PM having the power to retain her job, she has a hostile party, and when Tories get hostile, it isn’t too long that votes of no confidence follows. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'll give it 3 weeks before interest rate hits 20%. Every minute that Kwasi Truss is left in charge does more damage. The only way out for the tory party would be to sack the entire cabinet including the PM and build a new government consisting only of seasoned politicians that were around well before Johnson and have never been touched by the poison. Even that would be marginal as to whether the UK economy could be rescued.
My preference would be for an immediate dissolution of the government and the formation of an emergency cross-party cabinet to run the country temporarily until a general election could be held. This cabinet automatically excluding any politician who served under or voted in favour of Truss or Johnson. This would be only way to cut the rot out of British politics and restore some semblence of sanity to the situation.
Oh they'll never do anything like that.
My prediction: Truss + Kwarteng will resist a Uturn until far too much damage has been done. Then they will Uturn. And the Tories will tear themselves + the country apart in the process.
The more they hold out the higher the support for Labour and other parties becomes.
Tory HQ must be absolutely livid at the moment, they’ve lost credibility, and its easier to retain a voter than gain a new one. I do not see this ending well, unless Tory MP’s pull their fingers out of their arses and go for full rebellion.
I do not see that the PM having the power to retain her job, she has a hostile party, and when Tories get hostile, it isn’t too long that votes of no confidence follows. "
It's too soon for them to ditch Truss without looking ridiculous as a party. They're stuck with Truss for now. That means we're stuck with her for now too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll give it 3 weeks before interest rate hits 20%. Every minute that Kwasi Truss is left in charge does more damage. The only way out for the tory party would be to sack the entire cabinet including the PM and build a new government consisting only of seasoned politicians that were around well before Johnson and have never been touched by the poison. Even that would be marginal as to whether the UK economy could be rescued.
My preference would be for an immediate dissolution of the government and the formation of an emergency cross-party cabinet to run the country temporarily until a general election could be held. This cabinet automatically excluding any politician who served under or voted in favour of Truss or Johnson. This would be only way to cut the rot out of British politics and restore some semblence of sanity to the situation.
Oh they'll never do anything like that.
My prediction: Truss + Kwarteng will resist a Uturn until far too much damage has been done. Then they will Uturn. And the Tories will tear themselves + the country apart in the process.
The more they hold out the higher the support for Labour and other parties becomes.
Tory HQ must be absolutely livid at the moment, they’ve lost credibility, and its easier to retain a voter than gain a new one. I do not see this ending well, unless Tory MP’s pull their fingers out of their arses and go for full rebellion.
I do not see that the PM having the power to retain her job, she has a hostile party, and when Tories get hostile, it isn’t too long that votes of no confidence follows.
It's too soon for them to ditch Truss without looking ridiculous as a party. They're stuck with Truss for now. That means we're stuck with her for now too."
Yeah, but also like when a divorced couple have to share the same house, truss has to share the party with people who do not fundamentally agree with her. So they will make it so difficult for her to pass any of her insanity without so many caveats being implemented to the bills she wants to get through. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'll give it 3 weeks before interest rate hits 20%. Every minute that Kwasi Truss is left in charge does more damage. The only way out for the tory party would be to sack the entire cabinet including the PM and build a new government consisting only of seasoned politicians that were around well before Johnson and have never been touched by the poison. Even that would be marginal as to whether the UK economy could be rescued.
My preference would be for an immediate dissolution of the government and the formation of an emergency cross-party cabinet to run the country temporarily until a general election could be held. This cabinet automatically excluding any politician who served under or voted in favour of Truss or Johnson. This would be only way to cut the rot out of British politics and restore some semblence of sanity to the situation.
Oh they'll never do anything like that.
My prediction: Truss + Kwarteng will resist a Uturn until far too much damage has been done. Then they will Uturn. And the Tories will tear themselves + the country apart in the process.
The more they hold out the higher the support for Labour and other parties becomes.
Tory HQ must be absolutely livid at the moment, they’ve lost credibility, and its easier to retain a voter than gain a new one. I do not see this ending well, unless Tory MP’s pull their fingers out of their arses and go for full rebellion.
I do not see that the PM having the power to retain her job, she has a hostile party, and when Tories get hostile, it isn’t too long that votes of no confidence follows.
It's too soon for them to ditch Truss without looking ridiculous as a party. They're stuck with Truss for now. That means we're stuck with her for now too.
Yeah, but also like when a divorced couple have to share the same house, truss has to share the party with people who do not fundamentally agree with her. So they will make it so difficult for her to pass any of her insanity without so many caveats being implemented to the bills she wants to get through."
Probably |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll give it 3 weeks before interest rate hits 20%. Every minute that Kwasi Truss is left in charge does more damage. The only way out for the tory party would be to sack the entire cabinet including the PM and build a new government consisting only of seasoned politicians that were around well before Johnson and have never been touched by the poison. Even that would be marginal as to whether the UK economy could be rescued.
My preference would be for an immediate dissolution of the government and the formation of an emergency cross-party cabinet to run the country temporarily until a general election could be held. This cabinet automatically excluding any politician who served under or voted in favour of Truss or Johnson. This would be only way to cut the rot out of British politics and restore some semblence of sanity to the situation."
Hmm,"an emergency cross-party cabinet to run the country temporarily until a general election could be held".
General Election some time around 2070 I'm guessing. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"the poll in question was run by Nadim Zahawi's company. it gives the conservative and unionist party 3 seats 
extinction  "
If I can have a Jacob Rees mogg loses his seat moment I might think about giving up chocolate for the red of my life for that! |
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"the poll in question was run by Nadim Zahawi's company. it gives the conservative and unionist party 3 seats
extinction
If I can have a Jacob Rees mogg loses his seat moment I might think about giving up chocolate for the red of my life for that! "
I'll join you. He's my least favourite current Tory. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"the poll in question was run by Nadim Zahawi's company. it gives the conservative and unionist party 3 seats
extinction
If I can have a Jacob Rees mogg loses his seat moment I might think about giving up chocolate for the red of my life for that!
I'll join you. He's my least favourite current Tory."
It’s a tough call but every time JRM opens his patronising mouth I want to put my fist through it so yeah! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"the poll in question was run by Nadim Zahawi's company. it gives the conservative and unionist party 3 seats
extinction
If I can have a Jacob Rees mogg loses his seat moment I might think about giving up chocolate for the red of my life for that!
I'll join you. He's my least favourite current Tory.
It’s a tough call but every time JRM opens his patronising mouth I want to put my fist through it so yeah!"
There must be a hell of a lot of competition for most hatable Tory. |
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
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The Lexit plan was to invest in / encourage investment in manufacturing, and then deliberately bring the pound down to parity with the dollar and Euro in order to make British exports competitive.
With the Tories penchant for borrowing popular Labour policies maybe we'll see a "whoops, oh by the way here's a big bung for manufacturing, it's what we intended to do all along but forgot to tell you" moment |
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
A Home Among The Woodland Creatures |
"Its not a tax cut for the wealthy but the wealth creators. and the rest of us"
If that worked it would have already worked because it's the argument we've been fed for the last 40 years.
Time to put that one to bed - sorry |
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"Its not a tax cut for the wealthy but the wealth creators. and the rest of us"
How is doubling peoples mortgages going to put money into the pockets of normal people. Tricke down will never work. |
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Liz Truss is doing a great job but screwing everything up.
Her interviews on local radio will go down in history, how can you have a PM that cant answer questions and just reads from a script?
Cannot seeing her leading the Tory Party to the next GE, she will be gone.
In her head she thinks she is Thatcher but everyone sees her as a stupid Boris.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"The Lexit plan was to invest in / encourage investment in manufacturing, and then deliberately bring the pound down to parity with the dollar and Euro in order to make British exports competitive.
With the Tories penchant for borrowing popular Labour policies maybe we'll see a "whoops, oh by the way here's a big bung for manufacturing, it's what we intended to do all along but forgot to tell you" moment"
The problem is that is that the uk is not a manufacturing economy.. it’s a services one! So because we import way more than exports.. everything goes up the closer to parity we get.. which then leads to inflation and or higher interest rates!
It just doesn’t work |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"The Lexit plan was to invest in / encourage investment in manufacturing, and then deliberately bring the pound down to parity with the dollar and Euro in order to make British exports competitive.
With the Tories penchant for borrowing popular Labour policies maybe we'll see a "whoops, oh by the way here's a big bung for manufacturing, it's what we intended to do all along but forgot to tell you" moment
The problem is that is that the uk is not a manufacturing economy.. it’s a services one! So because we import way more than exports.. everything goes up the closer to parity we get.. which then leads to inflation and or higher interest rates!
It just doesn’t work "
It's surprising how much is still manufactured here but your right in that the amount is much less than decades ago. As for exports its more finely balanced between exports of physical items and financial services. Physical items exports are larger in value than financial services exports but some years it is quite close. |
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"The Lexit plan was to invest in / encourage investment in manufacturing, and then deliberately bring the pound down to parity with the dollar and Euro in order to make British exports competitive.
With the Tories penchant for borrowing popular Labour policies maybe we'll see a "whoops, oh by the way here's a big bung for manufacturing, it's what we intended to do all along but forgot to tell you" moment
The problem is that is that the uk is not a manufacturing economy.. it’s a services one! So because we import way more than exports.. everything goes up the closer to parity we get.. which then leads to inflation and or higher interest rates!
It just doesn’t work
It's surprising how much is still manufactured here but your right in that the amount is much less than decades ago. As for exports its more finely balanced between exports of physical items and financial services. Physical items exports are larger in value than financial services exports but some years it is quite close."
While trying to find figures on our export and imports. I came across this.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02815/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20UK's%20exports,45%25%20of%20imports%20in%202021.
Alarming reading is that our trade deficit for all of 2021 was £18 billion. But for only the first 3 months of 2022 it was over£28 billion. |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
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"The Lexit plan was to invest in / encourage investment in manufacturing, and then deliberately bring the pound down to parity with the dollar and Euro in order to make British exports competitive.
With the Tories penchant for borrowing popular Labour policies maybe we'll see a "whoops, oh by the way here's a big bung for manufacturing, it's what we intended to do all along but forgot to tell you" moment
The problem is that is that the uk is not a manufacturing economy.. it’s a services one! So because we import way more than exports.. everything goes up the closer to parity we get.. which then leads to inflation and or higher interest rates!
It just doesn’t work
It's surprising how much is still manufactured here but your right in that the amount is much less than decades ago. As for exports its more finely balanced between exports of physical items and financial services. Physical items exports are larger in value than financial services exports but some years it is quite close.
While trying to find figures on our export and imports. I came across this.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02815/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20UK's%20exports,45%25%20of%20imports%20in%202021.
Alarming reading is that our trade deficit for all of 2021 was £18 billion. But for only the first 3 months of 2022 it was over£28 billion. "
I tend to use the ONS or government sites that use the ONS. They tend to do quarter to quarter comparisons with the previous quarter and the same quarter of the previous year. It fluctuates quite a bit and the figures get revised up and down when data becomes available. What makes it worse is HMRC have implemented a data collection change which now means 2022 figures are not comparable to previous years. Unfortunately it is one of those topics that are complex and different organizations can make the same figures sound good or bad depending on their narrative |
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
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"The Lexit plan was to invest in / encourage investment in manufacturing, and then deliberately bring the pound down to parity with the dollar and Euro in order to make British exports competitive.
With the Tories penchant for borrowing popular Labour policies maybe we'll see a "whoops, oh by the way here's a big bung for manufacturing, it's what we intended to do all along but forgot to tell you" moment
The problem is that is that the uk is not a manufacturing economy.. it’s a services one! So because we import way more than exports.. everything goes up the closer to parity we get.. which then leads to inflation and or higher interest rates!
It just doesn’t work "
I never said it was a good plan |
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It’s plain to see the Tory government have lost its grip on reality, it has no sense whatsoever, its crisis after crisis, scandal after scandal, failed policy, chaos in the economy, and a string of incompetent leaders, all willing to sell the British People down the river in favour of keeping their rich friends happy.
Call an election now, put it upto the people to decide if we want this to continue. |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
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"The Lexit plan was to invest in / encourage investment in manufacturing, and then deliberately bring the pound down to parity with the dollar and Euro in order to make British exports competitive.
With the Tories penchant for borrowing popular Labour policies maybe we'll see a "whoops, oh by the way here's a big bung for manufacturing, it's what we intended to do all along but forgot to tell you" moment
The problem is that is that the uk is not a manufacturing economy.. it’s a services one! So because we import way more than exports.. everything goes up the closer to parity we get.. which then leads to inflation and or higher interest rates!
It just doesn’t work
It's surprising how much is still manufactured here but your right in that the amount is much less than decades ago. As for exports its more finely balanced between exports of physical items and financial services. Physical items exports are larger in value than financial services exports but some years it is quite close.
While trying to find figures on our export and imports. I came across this.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02815/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20UK's%20exports,45%25%20of%20imports%20in%202021.
Alarming reading is that our trade deficit for all of 2021 was £18 billion. But for only the first 3 months of 2022 it was over£28 billion. "
Brexit benefit ? |
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