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By *mateur100 OP   Man  over a year ago

nr faversham

Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored"
socialism at it finest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest."

No you don’t understand, don’t worry you’re American, I can forgive the fact that selfishness is a cultural trait of the American mindset, so it’s not your fault.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest."

Is socialism bad?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

Is socialism bad?"

It's great!! If you're a complete and total.....

(Self censored in case some commie gives me a ban for disagreeing with them)...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

Is socialism bad?"

of course it is. You need to be a free market like the states.

If you ignore their protectionist policies.

And sports.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

Is socialism bad?

It's great!! If you're a complete and total.....

(Self censored in case some commie gives me a ban for disagreeing with them)... "

Are "commies" fans of socialism?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

Is socialism bad?

It's great!! If you're a complete and total.....

(Self censored in case some commie gives me a ban for disagreeing with them)...

Are "commies" fans of socialism?"

You tell me Trotsky

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

Is socialism bad?

It's great!! If you're a complete and total.....

(Self censored in case some commie gives me a ban for disagreeing with them)... "

Trying to rally your base, sign of desperation.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

No you don’t understand, don’t worry you’re American, I can forgive the fact that selfishness is a cultural trait of the American mindset, so it’s not your fault."

idk maybe we can have someone from Venezuela chime in. You know the ones fleeing the country to America.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

Is socialism bad?

It's great!! If you're a complete and total.....

(Self censored in case some commie gives me a ban for disagreeing with them)...

Are "commies" fans of socialism?

You tell me Trotsky "

Desperate, you know what is going to happen, and you’re scared of admitting it, the tories are over, no way are they coming back.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

Is socialism bad?

It's great!! If you're a complete and total.....

(Self censored in case some commie gives me a ban for disagreeing with them)...

Trying to rally your base, sign of desperation."

Couldn't give a tuppenny fuck who agrees or disagrees with me. Common sense will prevail

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

Is socialism bad?

It's great!! If you're a complete and total.....

(Self censored in case some commie gives me a ban for disagreeing with them)...

Trying to rally your base, sign of desperation.

Couldn't give a tuppenny fuck who agrees or disagrees with me. Common sense will prevail "

Then why post ? Seriously we seeing huge influx of people from socialist countries.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

Is socialism bad?

It's great!! If you're a complete and total.....

(Self censored in case some commie gives me a ban for disagreeing with them)...

Are "commies" fans of socialism?

You tell me Trotsky "

You're asking me to explain why you're confused about the difference between communism and socialism?

Strangest question I've ever been asked on here. And there have been plenty of weird ones.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

Is socialism bad?

It's great!! If you're a complete and total.....

(Self censored in case some commie gives me a ban for disagreeing with them)...

Trying to rally your base, sign of desperation.

Couldn't give a tuppenny fuck who agrees or disagrees with me. Common sense will prevail "

Uncommon sense in your case.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you."

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government?"

You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind."

The UK isn't a socialist country, we have a very right wing government who don't give a shit about the people, and serve the interests of their corporate backers.

And I asked you a question about your case. I'm not stating a case either way. I'm interested in what you think is wrong with a socialist government.

When you say "big government controlling everything", what do you mean? Do you mean universal healthcare and such? Most people consider that to be a good thing. What else is the government supposed to be for if it's not for serving the people.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"When you say "big government controlling everything", what do you mean?

"

probably that US controlled toilet called puerto rico where everyone is desperate to leave

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind."

See difference between the UK and the USA is simple. It’s clearly demonstrated by the statement above. If you actually lived in the UK then you would probably understand, but you don’t so don’t worry about it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind.

See difference between the UK and the USA is simple. It’s clearly demonstrated by the statement above. If you actually lived in the UK then you would probably understand, but you don’t so don’t worry about it. "

clearly people are screaming government government government. What happened to the individual?

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind.

See difference between the UK and the USA is simple. It’s clearly demonstrated by the statement above. If you actually lived in the UK then you would probably understand, but you don’t so don’t worry about it. clearly people are screaming government government government. What happened to the individual?"

They need something to blame, if they blame a person they have failed the mission.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind.

See difference between the UK and the USA is simple. It’s clearly demonstrated by the statement above. If you actually lived in the UK then you would probably understand, but you don’t so don’t worry about it. clearly people are screaming government government government. What happened to the individual?

They need something to blame, if they blame a person they have failed the mission."

seriously we hunt fish gardenand can items have solar panels a Genpac gas heat and wood. Why do I need government assistance?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind.

See difference between the UK and the USA is simple. It’s clearly demonstrated by the statement above. If you actually lived in the UK then you would probably understand, but you don’t so don’t worry about it. clearly people are screaming government government government. What happened to the individual?"

What do you mean? Are we not supposed to be critical of the government? What's this got to do with your opinion on socialism?

I'm genuinely interested to find out.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind.

See difference between the UK and the USA is simple. It’s clearly demonstrated by the statement above. If you actually lived in the UK then you would probably understand, but you don’t so don’t worry about it. clearly people are screaming government government government. What happened to the individual?

They need something to blame, if they blame a person they have failed the mission. seriously we hunt fish gardenand can items have solar panels a Genpac gas heat and wood. Why do I need government assistance? "

Yes, but you know that not everyone in your country has the opportunity for these things.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind.

See difference between the UK and the USA is simple. It’s clearly demonstrated by the statement above. If you actually lived in the UK then you would probably understand, but you don’t so don’t worry about it. clearly people are screaming government government government. What happened to the individual?

They need something to blame, if they blame a person they have failed the mission. seriously we hunt fish gardenand can items have solar panels a Genpac gas heat and wood. Why do I need government assistance? "

Because if it goes wrong for you, you have something to point a finger at.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind.

See difference between the UK and the USA is simple. It’s clearly demonstrated by the statement above. If you actually lived in the UK then you would probably understand, but you don’t so don’t worry about it. clearly people are screaming government government government. What happened to the individual?"

Such a childish view of freedom you have, that freedom doesn’t come without responsibility. But then again your country has only been in existence for a couple of hundred years. Whilst this nation has been around for hundreds of years.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind.

See difference between the UK and the USA is simple. It’s clearly demonstrated by the statement above. If you actually lived in the UK then you would probably understand, but you don’t so don’t worry about it. clearly people are screaming government government government. What happened to the individual?

They need something to blame, if they blame a person they have failed the mission. seriously we hunt fish gardenand can items have solar panels a Genpac gas heat and wood. Why do I need government assistance? "

No man is an island.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind.

See difference between the UK and the USA is simple. It’s clearly demonstrated by the statement above. If you actually lived in the UK then you would probably understand, but you don’t so don’t worry about it. clearly people are screaming government government government. What happened to the individual?

They need something to blame, if they blame a person they have failed the mission. seriously we hunt fish gardenand can items have solar panels a Genpac gas heat and wood. Why do I need government assistance?

No man is an island. "

it's just utterly stupid to rely on government to control all aspects of your lives. It's like a free for all. Blame government for you whoas for everything. Here is a novel idea.. look in the mirror.. no government cares about what you are looking at.

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By *irldnCouple  over a year ago

Brighton

So @Blu by extension your nirvana must be the eradication of the nation state?

How small is small enough for you?

County?

Town?

Village?

Hamlet?

Single household?

Where is it you draw the line for “society” to stop working collectively and for people to only operate individually?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"If socialism so great Venezuela would be a paradise to some of you.

Can you describe what is wrong with socialism as a system of government? You are currently experiencing it you tell me. I not the one whining over government now am I. I prefer less government but go ahead and state your case. What is the joy of big government controlling everything? Do you see the situation you in now or are you that blind.

See difference between the UK and the USA is simple. It’s clearly demonstrated by the statement above. If you actually lived in the UK then you would probably understand, but you don’t so don’t worry about it. clearly people are screaming government government government. What happened to the individual?

They need something to blame, if they blame a person they have failed the mission. seriously we hunt fish gardenand can items have solar panels a Genpac gas heat and wood. Why do I need government assistance?

No man is an island. it's just utterly stupid to rely on government to control all aspects of your lives. It's like a free for all. Blame government for you whoas for everything. Here is a novel idea.. look in the mirror.. no government cares about what you are looking at. "

Ah I see the problem.

Are you saying that when the government provides a service for the population, such as healthcare, that this is "control"?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

Is socialism bad?"

Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money "

yeah right, which is why the country is now skint and so indebt with a completely collapsed economy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money

yeah right, which is why the country is now skint and so indebt with a completely collapsed economy "

Well it's certainly going to be interesting to see what Labour has to offer at the next general election.

It's usually the Tories coming to power with the country's finances in meltdown after years of Labour mismanagement, so it's going to be interesting to see how Labour deals with the situation.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money

yeah right, which is why the country is now skint and so indebt with a completely collapsed economy

Well it's certainly going to be interesting to see what Labour has to offer at the next general election.

It's usually the Tories coming to power with the country's finances in meltdown after years of Labour mismanagement, so it's going to be interesting to see how Labour deals with the situation."

They won't, people will re-elect the Tories.

In my opinion.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

if only this lot had spent the last 12 years 'fixing the roof while the sun was shinning'

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money

yeah right, which is why the country is now skint and so indebt with a completely collapsed economy

Well it's certainly going to be interesting to see what Labour has to offer at the next general election.

It's usually the Tories coming to power with the country's finances in meltdown after years of Labour mismanagement, so it's going to be interesting to see how Labour deals with the situation."

Are you blaming labour for the banking crash in 2008?

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money

yeah right, which is why the country is now skint and so indebt with a completely collapsed economy

Well it's certainly going to be interesting to see what Labour has to offer at the next general election.

It's usually the Tories coming to power with the country's finances in meltdown after years of Labour mismanagement, so it's going to be interesting to see how Labour deals with the situation.

Are you blaming labour for the banking crash in 2008? "

Not directly for the crash but the management up to and during, maybe.

You might find this helpful:

"Tony Blair has accepted some responsibility for the state of Britain's economy after admitting his government failed to understand the complexity of the financial sector or foresee that it was on the brink of crisis." Asked if that meant Labour did not fully understand it while he was in power, he replied: "No, we didn't."

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest."

The hate things like the NHS and healthcare for all… so Im not surprised!

P.s basically EDF started off as the same thing in France, and a sovereign wealth fund like Norway is something that should have been done decades ago

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

No you don’t understand, don’t worry you’re American, I can forgive the fact that selfishness is a cultural trait of the American mindset, so it’s not your fault. idk maybe we can have someone from Venezuela chime in. You know the ones fleeing the country to America. "

Oh NOW you want to mention Venezuela!! Bit rich since you spent your time in the trump thread belittling them trying to defend desantis!

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By *iketoshow74Man  over a year ago

Northampton

The trouble with state owned stuff is the waste.

Of the £bns that go to the NHS only 14% actually goes to the front line, 86% is wasted with administration, etc. compared to 80% in a private hospital.

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By *ebjonnsonMan  over a year ago

Maldon


"The trouble with state owned stuff is the waste.

Of the £bns that go to the NHS only 14% actually goes to the front line, 86% is wasted with administration, etc. compared to 80% in a private hospital. "

Does ‘administration’ include salaries?

I guess it’s become an unmanageable behemoth?

Apparently, the NHS is still the largest buyer in the world of Fax machines can you believe?

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By *irldnCouple  over a year ago

Brighton


"Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money

yeah right, which is why the country is now skint and so indebt with a completely collapsed economy

Well it's certainly going to be interesting to see what Labour has to offer at the next general election.

It's usually the Tories coming to power with the country's finances in meltdown after years of Labour mismanagement, so it's going to be interesting to see how Labour deals with the situation.

Are you blaming labour for the banking crash in 2008?

Not directly for the crash but the management up to and during, maybe.

You might find this helpful:

"Tony Blair has accepted some responsibility for the state of Britain's economy after admitting his government failed to understand the complexity of the financial sector or foresee that it was on the brink of crisis." Asked if that meant Labour did not fully understand it while he was in power, he replied: "No, we didn't."

"

Jeez tribalism is a great game as we can always blame the other lot. The roots of the financial crisis in 2008 go back waaaay further than Blair’s Labour Govt and were international in nature. The Tory’s deregulated the financial markets. Labour left them as is. Whose to blame? Well all of them to some extent but actually and mostly, those working in the Finance Sector who were a bunch of crooks (guess where people like Sunak was working at that point?)

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money

yeah right, which is why the country is now skint and so indebt with a completely collapsed economy

Well it's certainly going to be interesting to see what Labour has to offer at the next general election.

It's usually the Tories coming to power with the country's finances in meltdown after years of Labour mismanagement, so it's going to be interesting to see how Labour deals with the situation.

Are you blaming labour for the banking crash in 2008?

Not directly for the crash but the management up to and during, maybe.

You might find this helpful:

"Tony Blair has accepted some responsibility for the state of Britain's economy after admitting his government failed to understand the complexity of the financial sector or foresee that it was on the brink of crisis." Asked if that meant Labour did not fully understand it while he was in power, he replied: "No, we didn't."

Jeez tribalism is a great game as we can always blame the other lot. The roots of the financial crisis in 2008 go back waaaay further than Blair’s Labour Govt and were international in nature. The Tory’s deregulated the financial markets. Labour left them as is. Whose to blame? Well all of them to some extent but actually and mostly, those working in the Finance Sector who were a bunch of crooks (guess where people like Sunak was working at that point?)"

Why did you mention tribalism?

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol

Sks green power company will still cost the same as the others so nothing for me to gain

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By *irldnCouple  over a year ago

Brighton


"Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money

yeah right, which is why the country is now skint and so indebt with a completely collapsed economy

Well it's certainly going to be interesting to see what Labour has to offer at the next general election.

It's usually the Tories coming to power with the country's finances in meltdown after years of Labour mismanagement, so it's going to be interesting to see how Labour deals with the situation.

Are you blaming labour for the banking crash in 2008?

Not directly for the crash but the management up to and during, maybe.

You might find this helpful:

"Tony Blair has accepted some responsibility for the state of Britain's economy after admitting his government failed to understand the complexity of the financial sector or foresee that it was on the brink of crisis." Asked if that meant Labour did not fully understand it while he was in power, he replied: "No, we didn't."

Jeez tribalism is a great game as we can always blame the other lot. The roots of the financial crisis in 2008 go back waaaay further than Blair’s Labour Govt and were international in nature. The Tory’s deregulated the financial markets. Labour left them as is. Whose to blame? Well all of them to some extent but actually and mostly, those working in the Finance Sector who were a bunch of crooks (guess where people like Sunak was working at that point?)

Why did you mention tribalism? "

Your post was the jumping off point regardless of your intent but so many people try to point finger of blame at the team that isn’t theirs. What about my other points?

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money

yeah right, which is why the country is now skint and so indebt with a completely collapsed economy

Well it's certainly going to be interesting to see what Labour has to offer at the next general election.

It's usually the Tories coming to power with the country's finances in meltdown after years of Labour mismanagement, so it's going to be interesting to see how Labour deals with the situation.

Are you blaming labour for the banking crash in 2008?

Not directly for the crash but the management up to and during, maybe.

You might find this helpful:

"Tony Blair has accepted some responsibility for the state of Britain's economy after admitting his government failed to understand the complexity of the financial sector or foresee that it was on the brink of crisis." Asked if that meant Labour did not fully understand it while he was in power, he replied: "No, we didn't."

Jeez tribalism is a great game as we can always blame the other lot. The roots of the financial crisis in 2008 go back waaaay further than Blair’s Labour Govt and were international in nature. The Tory’s deregulated the financial markets. Labour left them as is. Whose to blame? Well all of them to some extent but actually and mostly, those working in the Finance Sector who were a bunch of crooks (guess where people like Sunak was working at that point?)

Why did you mention tribalism?

Your post was the jumping off point regardless of your intent but so many people try to point finger of blame at the team that isn’t theirs. What about my other points?"

My post was answering a question and the start of the post actually said not to blame, and then provided Blair's quote of responsibility.

Tribalism indeed

As for your other points, to be honest, someone would need to need to have been under a rock to not know how the financial institutions behaved

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

if the 2008 crash was caused by financial institutions behaving badly, then is Krazy Twateng doing the right thing by his removing of the regulations that prevent future bad behaviour?

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By *otPrinceHarryMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

"it's just utterly stupid to rely on government to control all aspects of your lives. It's like a free for all."

Eh? He's talking about A nationalised energy company. If the privately owned ones- or the ones wholly owned by other states' governments- are better run, then buy from them.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"if the 2008 crash was caused by financial institutions behaving badly, then is Krazy Twateng doing the right thing by his removing of the regulations that prevent future bad behaviour?"

God knows, I think the best financial people are already ready working for or in the US, so potentially it could cause problems in the UK markets.

We all know the issue with these institutions, they make everything so hard to understand it takes several years to uncover the wrong doing and by that time it is usually too late.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"if the 2008 crash was caused by financial institutions behaving badly, then is Krazy Twateng doing the right thing by his removing of the regulations that prevent future bad behaviour?"

It started going wrong for kwasi the very first moment he walked into the treasury and sacked the most senior civil servant

It screamed I know better than you… irony that one of the people who would have been able to allay some fears is that chief sec

There are not many occasions you can say “Rishi warned you…..” but……

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"if the 2008 crash was caused by financial institutions behaving badly, then is Krazy Twateng doing the right thing by his removing of the regulations that prevent future bad behaviour?

It started going wrong for kwasi the very first moment he walked into the treasury and sacked the most senior civil servant

It screamed I know better than you… irony that one of the people who would have been able to allay some fears is that chief sec

There are not many occasions you can say “Rishi warned you…..” but……"

I was thinking exactly that about Rishi.

I bet he looks smugger than ever.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"if the 2008 crash was caused by financial institutions behaving badly, then is Krazy Twateng doing the right thing by his removing of the regulations that prevent future bad behaviour?"

It's mostly Rees Mogg, he wants to remove the regulations on Somerset Investment Management.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great idea! I've argued for a state owned option for decades but why stop there? State owned bank? That was shot down the minute I suggested here by.....all the labour supporters. A state owned option across the board is the way, then capitalism is automatically monitored socialism at it finest.

No you don’t understand, don’t worry you’re American, I can forgive the fact that selfishness is a cultural trait of the American mindset, so it’s not your fault. idk maybe we can have someone from Venezuela chime in. You know the ones fleeing the country to America.

Oh NOW you want to mention Venezuela!! Bit rich since you spent your time in the trump thread belittling them trying to defend desantis! "

Show me where on the other post I said I didn't want migrants. If you are fine with 50 migrants dying in a packed semi trailer. Compared to shipping 50 migrants to sanctuary cities your the delusional one.

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