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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
The press and politicians seem to be playing down rioting and fighting in Leicester which was once home to Gary Linekers father's fruit and veg stand at the market. Reports that unrest has followed a cricket match between India and Pakistan with fans from both sides battling on the streets. Is this in any way related to Brexit? |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"The press and politicians seem to be playing down rioting and fighting in Leicester which was once home to Gary Linekers father's fruit and veg stand at the market. Reports that unrest has followed a cricket match between India and Pakistan with fans from both sides battling on the streets. Is this in any way related to Brexit?"
No. They don't play much cricket in Europe Tom.
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"The press and politicians seem to be playing down rioting and fighting in Leicester which was once home to Gary Linekers father's fruit and veg stand at the market. Reports that unrest has followed a cricket match between India and Pakistan with fans from both sides battling on the streets. Is this in any way related to Brexit?"
nope all to do with idiots fighting over which sky fairy is the best one day all of them will work it out that all skyfairys are just a form of control to subjugate the masses
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"The press and politicians seem to be playing down rioting and fighting in Leicester which was once home to Gary Linekers father's fruit and veg stand at the market. Reports that unrest has followed a cricket match between India and Pakistan with fans from both sides battling on the streets. Is this in any way related to Brexit?"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes Tom. The tensions between India and Pakistan had absolutely nothing to do with the collapse of the British Empire and the fall of the Raj, leading to decades of strife between the two countries and everything to do with Britain leaving the EU in the last 2 years.
Obviously India was Leave and Pakistan was Remain...
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"No it's totally about Brexit
Everything is about Brexit!!! Unless it's something positive of course then it's definitely nothing to do with Brexit  "
Still awaiting something tangibly positive to come out of it at which point I will give it full credit. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"No it's totally about Brexit
Everything is about Brexit!!! Unless it's something positive of course then it's definitely nothing to do with Brexit
Still awaiting something tangibly positive to come out of it at which point I will give it full credit. "
The English now have full control of their borders... |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"No it's totally about Brexit
Everything is about Brexit!!! Unless it's something positive of course then it's definitely nothing to do with Brexit
Still awaiting something tangibly positive to come out of it at which point I will give it full credit.
The English now have full control of their borders..."
Don't tell Kent Tom.......
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"No it's totally about Brexit
Everything is about Brexit!!! Unless it's something positive of course then it's definitely nothing to do with Brexit
Still awaiting something tangibly positive to come out of it at which point I will give it full credit.
The English now have full control of their borders..."
The Welsh, Scots and Northern Irish on the other hand?
All working well though, glad we "Took back control" |
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"No it's totally about Brexit
Everything is about Brexit!!! Unless it's something positive of course then it's definitely nothing to do with Brexit
Still awaiting something tangibly positive to come out of it at which point I will give it full credit.
The English now have full control of their borders..."
Oh I dunno Tom, I’ve got some honeysuckle in one of my borders and it’s well out of control |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No it's totally about Brexit
Everything is about Brexit!!! Unless it's something positive of course then it's definitely nothing to do with Brexit
Still awaiting something tangibly positive to come out of it at which point I will give it full credit.
The English now have full control of their borders...
Don't tell Kent Tom.......
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fook you mean there is another from Kent one tom is enough  |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"No it's totally about Brexit
Everything is about Brexit!!! Unless it's something positive of course then it's definitely nothing to do with Brexit
Still awaiting something tangibly positive to come out of it at which point I will give it full credit.
The English now have full control of their borders..."
Ah there it is the tenuous link  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No to more to do with their stupidity and racial views to each other."
Like English sports fans have never had street battles with fans of other nations  |
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"all to do with idiots fighting over which sky fairy is the best one day all of them will work it out that all skyfairys are just a form of control to subjugate the masses "
It's that what the 'gatherings' are all about?
I've been reading news reports, and they are all studiously avoiding any mention of the ethnicity of the gatherees, or any mention of what they might be gathering for. It makes it very difficult to understand what's happening when the press self-censor all the details. |
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"all to do with idiots fighting over which sky fairy is the best one day all of them will work it out that all skyfairys are just a form of control to subjugate the masses
It's that what the 'gatherings' are all about?
I've been reading news reports, and they are all studiously avoiding any mention of the ethnicity of the gatherees, or any mention of what they might be gathering for. It makes it very difficult to understand what's happening when the press self-censor all the details."
Why is the ethnicity important? |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"all to do with idiots fighting over which sky fairy is the best one day all of them will work it out that all skyfairys are just a form of control to subjugate the masses
It's that what the 'gatherings' are all about?
I've been reading news reports, and they are all studiously avoiding any mention of the ethnicity of the gatherees, or any mention of what they might be gathering for. It makes it very difficult to understand what's happening when the press self-censor all the details."
I think the BBC mention Hindus and Muslims |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"all to do with idiots fighting over which sky fairy is the best one day all of them will work it out that all skyfairys are just a form of control to subjugate the masses
It's that what the 'gatherings' are all about?
I've been reading news reports, and they are all studiously avoiding any mention of the ethnicity of the gatherees, or any mention of what they might be gathering for. It makes it very difficult to understand what's happening when the press self-censor all the details."
other than mentioning hindu and Muslims, and India v Pakistan cricket matches?
I'm interested in why this cricket match this time. But this feels akin to an old form derby going pear shape. |
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"I've been reading news reports, and they are all studiously avoiding any mention of the ethnicity of the gatherees, or any mention of what they might be gathering for. It makes it very difficult to understand what's happening when the press self-censor all the details."
"Why is the ethnicity important?"
The page I was reading was https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-62735675
That page didn't mention Hindus or Muslims, but it does mention hate speech and racist chants. I was under the impression that it was white people having a go at brown people. I now find that I was wrong. If they'd explained the ethnicities involved, I would have understood better.
The latest BBC News page does indeed mention Hindus and Muslims, making the story a bit clearer. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Who won the match ?"
India won the match. It was an Asia Cup match between the sides.
I understand that the celebrations of the Leicester Hindus (india) were over excessive, leading to street fights with the Leicester Muslims (Pakistan).
Tensions have simmered for days, and more violence between the two sides manifested itself last night. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've been reading news reports, and they are all studiously avoiding any mention of the ethnicity of the gatherees, or any mention of what they might be gathering for. It makes it very difficult to understand what's happening when the press self-censor all the details.
Why is the ethnicity important?
The page I was reading was https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-62735675
That page didn't mention Hindus or Muslims, but it does mention hate speech and racist chants. I was under the impression that it was white people having a go at brown people. I now find that I was wrong. If they'd explained the ethnicities involved, I would have understood better.
The latest BBC News page does indeed mention Hindus and Muslims, making the story a bit clearer."
thays interesting... Probably an assumption by someone being familiar with the rivalry that the nature was obvious ... I would have gone to white racists. But now you mention it, that's the usual go to image. |
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"The press and politicians seem to be playing down rioting and fighting in Leicester which was once home to Gary Linekers father's fruit and veg stand at the market. Reports that unrest has followed a cricket match between India and Pakistan with fans from both sides battling on the streets. Is this in any way related to Brexit?
No. They don't play much cricket in Europe Tom.
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That’s where they’ve gone wrong. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"Who won the match ?
India won the match. It was an Asia Cup match between the sides.
I understand that the celebrations of the Leicester Hindus (india) were over excessive, leading to street fights with the Leicester Muslims (Pakistan).
Tensions have simmered for days, and more violence between the two sides manifested itself last night."
These Leicester Hindus and Muslims are pathetic. What kind of a world is it when a cricket match can cause this. Human beings need to bloody grow up! |
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This isn’t about cricket. Albeit it was the spark that kicked it off.
If you need background Aina J Khans account on social media gives a little bit of context. She is the Guardian community affairs correspondent. Her account is a little one sided but gives some idea of where the tensions are coming from.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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First and foremost the violence and unrest is absolutely ridiculous especially at a time where we're mourning our Queen, whether you're a royalist or not. The police resources being used by this stupid behaviour from those in Leicester could be used elsewhere, today of all days.
This unrest isn't solely down to a cricket match. It's down to extremist Hindus goading and intimidating Muslims in the city. What added fuel to the fire was the cricket with India winning.
What's now making things worse is when fire is fought back with fire the problem will only escalate. The Hindu extremists are marching though areas of Leicester with a high Muslim population and the Muslims are now fighting back. Community leaders need to speak to those idiots and tell then to grow up. Of course off the back of a few individuals beliefs you'll get very many others who want to get involved for no other reason that to be a part of something, no matter how ridiculous.
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"First and foremost the violence and unrest is absolutely ridiculous especially at a time where we're mourning our Queen, whether you're a royalist or not. The police resources being used by this stupid behaviour from those in Leicester could be used elsewhere, today of all days.
This unrest isn't solely down to a cricket match. It's down to extremist Hindus goading and intimidating Muslims in the city. What added fuel to the fire was the cricket with India winning.
What's now making things worse is when fire is fought back with fire the problem will only escalate. The Hindu extremists are marching though areas of Leicester with a high Muslim population and the Muslims are now fighting back. Community leaders need to speak to those idiots and tell then to grow up. Of course off the back of a few individuals beliefs you'll get very many others who want to get involved for no other reason that to be a part of something, no matter how ridiculous.
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Your right that this is ridiculous and community leaders will be important. You seem to blame the Hindus only. Are they solely responsible for this? I don't know myself hence the question but often neither side is blameless. Sad situation at a sad time |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"First and foremost the violence and unrest is absolutely ridiculous especially at a time where we're mourning our Queen, whether you're a royalist or not. The police resources being used by this stupid behaviour from those in Leicester could be used elsewhere, today of all days.
This unrest isn't solely down to a cricket match. It's down to extremist Hindus goading and intimidating Muslims in the city. What added fuel to the fire was the cricket with India winning.
What's now making things worse is when fire is fought back with fire the problem will only escalate. The Hindu extremists are marching though areas of Leicester with a high Muslim population and the Muslims are now fighting back. Community leaders need to speak to those idiots and tell then to grow up. Of course off the back of a few individuals beliefs you'll get very many others who want to get involved for no other reason that to be a part of something, no matter how ridiculous.
Your right that this is ridiculous and community leaders will be important. You seem to blame the Hindus only. Are they solely responsible for this? I don't know myself hence the question but often neither side is blameless. Sad situation at a sad time"
Sorry, I re read my post and it does read as though I'm blaming Hindus but I'm not, I'm a Hindu myself. Both "sides" are to blame. There's never a right time to fight or be violent, but this really isn't the time. Self respect and respect for others gone out the window. |
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"Maybe these fools should be stripped of cricket ?
How would you do that ?
Confiscate their balls?
Whose balls? "
All the ‘troublemakers’ in Leicester that participated in this shocking race hate event. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Maybe these fools should be stripped of cricket ?
How would you do that ?
Confiscate their balls?
Whose balls?
All the ‘troublemakers’ in Leicester that participated in this shocking race hate event. "
They were not playing cricket , it was shocking behaviour though, |
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"No to more to do with their stupidity and racial views to each other.
Like English sports fans have never had street battles with fans of other nations "
Yep. There's that. Also, everyone who has ever had to police and Old Firm game must be thinking "Why is this minor scuffle in the news?" |
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"Maybe these fools should be stripped of cricket ?"
"How would you do that ?"
"Confiscate their balls?"
"Whose balls?"
"All the ‘troublemakers’ in Leicester that participated in this shocking race hate event."
I know the BBC reported race hate, but can that be true? Is it possible for members of one race to racially abuse other members of the same race? |
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By *1c4yMan
over a year ago
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"No to more to do with their stupidity and racial views to each other.
Like English sports fans have never had street battles with fans of other nations "
Yes and dont we all know about it when this happens its all over the media. (Headlines = Hooligans / thugs etc).
Like OP said the press and playing it down for some reason.  |
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"No to more to do with their stupidity and racial views to each other.
Like English sports fans have never had street battles with fans of other nations
Yes and dont we all know about it when this happens its all over the media. (Headlines = Hooligans / thugs etc).
Like OP said the press and playing it down for some reason. "
I think like other recent issues of social unrest ( Oxford street, Nottingham, South London - Dalston I think) it’s down played because of social media, Tik Tok in particular and the fear of copy cat events. The daily landings in Kent get little or no coverage either, not in the public interest can you believe? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No to more to do with their stupidity and racial views to each other.
Like English sports fans have never had street battles with fans of other nations
Yes and dont we all know about it when this happens its all over the media. (Headlines = Hooligans / thugs etc).
Like OP said the press and playing it down for some reason. "
playing it down... Or distracted by the queen ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No to more to do with their stupidity and racial views to each other.
Like English sports fans have never had street battles with fans of other nations
Yes and dont we all know about it when this happens its all over the media. (Headlines = Hooligans / thugs etc).
Like OP said the press and playing it down for some reason.
I think like other recent issues of social unrest ( Oxford street, Nottingham, South London - Dalston I think) it’s down played because of social media, Tik Tok in particular and the fear of copy cat events. The daily landings in Kent get little or no coverage either, not in the public interest can you believe?"
is that how tik tok works ?
The daily landings are no longer news unless there is a new record, or some new stats. That's how the news works. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whats going on here guys ?"
there were some handbags. Someone asked if it was brexit related. Someone's suggested castaration. But who knows... The Chinese are keeping it hidden because they care for the UK.
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By *mynclMan
over a year ago
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Pakistanis and Indians always had a good relationship in the UK, yes there’s always a little scuffle over cricket, but normally return to being friends afterwards, there is probably a little bit more to this than cricket, maybe some outside influence stirring things up. I’m Pakistani and have loads of Indian friends never have a problem apart from healthy banta over cricket. |
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"The press and politicians seem to be playing down rioting and fighting in Leicester which was once home to Gary Linekers father's fruit and veg stand at the market. Reports that unrest has followed a cricket match between India and Pakistan with fans from both sides battling on the streets. Is this in any way related to Brexit?"
Naa... naaa. It is sectarian violent racial hatred and the government and police will not stray from ignoring the criminality but will take you away if you hurt someone's feeling on social media. |
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