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By *I Two OP   Couple  over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

I wonder if Ukraine is thinking if they can't have it let's make sure nobody can and turn it into a nuclear wasteland

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No they wouldn't because it would literally result in thousands of deaths and the destruction of their own territory

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By *I Two OP   Couple  over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"No they wouldn't because it would literally result in thousands of deaths and the destruction of their own territory"

How many died in Chernobyl ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No they wouldn't because it would literally result in thousands of deaths and the destruction of their own territory

How many died in Chernobyl ?"

Common belief is at least 4,000 deaths as a result of Chernobyl

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By *I Two OP   Couple  over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"No they wouldn't because it would literally result in thousands of deaths and the destruction of their own territory

How many died in Chernobyl ?

Common belief is at least 4,000 deaths as a result of Chernobyl"

Proven deaths was 30 wasn't it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No they wouldn't because it would literally result in thousands of deaths and the destruction of their own territory

How many died in Chernobyl ?

Common belief is at least 4,000 deaths as a result of Chernobyl

Proven deaths was 30 wasn't it"

On the site yes but due to the spreading of radiation it is estimated 4,000 at least can be attributed to it.

It’ll be worse if this plant goes up especially if the wind hits Russia who are still suffering heavily with covid and ill health.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan  over a year ago

Gilfach


"How many died in Chernobyl ?"


"Common belief is at least 4,000 deaths as a result of Chernobyl"

4,000 might be a common belief, but it's not a scientific one.

The science says that 2 people died from the explosion, with another 28 from direct radiation exposure. After that a further 15 people died from thyroid cancer (out of about 5000 cases).

And that's it. Lots of studies have been done looking at excess deaths in the people in the area, and none of them have come up with anything statistically significant.

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By *ustintime69Man  over a year ago

london


"How many died in Chernobyl ?

Common belief is at least 4,000 deaths as a result of Chernobyl

4,000 might be a common belief, but it's not a scientific one.

The science says that 2 people died from the explosion, with another 28 from direct radiation exposure. After that a further 15 people died from thyroid cancer (out of about 5000 cases).

And that's it. Lots of studies have been done looking at excess deaths in the people in the area, and none of them have come up with anything statistically significant."

So does that mean nuclear war is safe?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How many died in Chernobyl ?

Common belief is at least 4,000 deaths as a result of Chernobyl

4,000 might be a common belief, but it's not a scientific one.

The science says that 2 people died from the explosion, with another 28 from direct radiation exposure. After that a further 15 people died from thyroid cancer (out of about 5000 cases).

And that's it. Lots of studies have been done looking at excess deaths in the people in the area, and none of them have come up with anything statistically significant.

So does that mean nuclear war is safe? "

No,unfortunately radiation like birds and bears does not tend to respect borders.It is estimated a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan would kill about 20% of the UK population

The 4,000 deaths I was referring to was the worldwide impact.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan  over a year ago

Gilfach


"How many died in Chernobyl ?"


"Common belief is at least 4,000 deaths as a result of Chernobyl"


"4,000 might be a common belief, but it's not a scientific one.

The science says that 2 people died from the explosion, with another 28 from direct radiation exposure. After that a further 15 people died from thyroid cancer (out of about 5000 cases).

And that's it. Lots of studies have been done looking at excess deaths in the people in the area, and none of them have come up with anything statistically significant."


"The 4,000 deaths I was referring to was the worldwide impact."

You've got your facts wrong.

The 4,000 figure comes from a report by The Chernobyl Forum. They estimated that 4,000 people from the local area might die from radiation-induced illness. None of the scientific papers have predicted any deaths of people outside of the area.

In addition, the paper was written 19 years after the accident, and was predicting deaths in the future. So far, those deaths have not been seen. So even if they were correct, they are talking about deaths that occur more than 25 years after exposure. If those deaths don't start showing up soon, the populace will all die of natural causes before the radiation can kill them.

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By *ustintime69Man  over a year ago

london


"How many died in Chernobyl ?

Common belief is at least 4,000 deaths as a result of Chernobyl

4,000 might be a common belief, but it's not a scientific one.

The science says that 2 people died from the explosion, with another 28 from direct radiation exposure. After that a further 15 people died from thyroid cancer (out of about 5000 cases).

And that's it. Lots of studies have been done looking at excess deaths in the people in the area, and none of them have come up with anything statistically significant.

The 4,000 deaths I was referring to was the worldwide impact.

You've got your facts wrong.

The 4,000 figure comes from a report by The Chernobyl Forum. They estimated that 4,000 people from the local area might die from radiation-induced illness. None of the scientific papers have predicted any deaths of people outside of the area.

In addition, the paper was written 19 years after the accident, and was predicting deaths in the future. So far, those deaths have not been seen. So even if they were correct, they are talking about deaths that occur more than 25 years after exposure. If those deaths don't start showing up soon, the populace will all die of natural causes before the radiation can kill them."

So is nuclear war safe?

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan  over a year ago

Gilfach


"So is nuclear war safe?"

Quite definitely not. But nuclear power is nowhere near as dangerous as people think.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So is nuclear war safe?

Quite definitely not. But nuclear power is nowhere near as dangerous as people think."

Yeah its a lot better and safer than fossil fuels and will be pretty much necessary for a quick transition away from them.

Plus it will mean we can finally distance ourselves from Saudi Arabia and Russia.

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By *ob198XaMan  over a year ago

teleford


"I wonder if Ukraine is thinking if they can't have it let's make sure nobody can and turn it into a nuclear wasteland "

When you have a war going on it’s very hard for leaders to control where every artillery shell lands. Its easy to understand frustrated artillery crews targeting Russians around the plant when they are taking fire from them. Russia invaded, Russia seized the site, Russia are using the site as a shield, the responsibility is Russia’s.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I wonder if Ukraine is thinking if they can't have it let's make sure nobody can and turn it into a nuclear wasteland

When you have a war going on it’s very hard for leaders to control where every artillery shell lands. Its easy to understand frustrated artillery crews targeting Russians around the plant when they are taking fire from them. Russia invaded, Russia seized the site, Russia are using the site as a shield, the responsibility is Russia’s. "

The Ukrainians are making sure they are in control of where every shell lands although and have since the start of the war.

Russia is firing blindly at what they assume are military targets with reckless abandon.I’d put more on a Russian military accident doing something than any deliberate Ukrainian action

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