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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?"
Why is the nationality of the person sentenced to death important?
Surely it's all equally abhorrent. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Why is the nationality of the person sentenced to death important?
Surely it's all equally abhorrent."
It doesn’t… even though they are British citizens, they have live in Ukraine for years and are part of the Ukrainian marines…. So they should be treated as POWs under the Geneva convention, however this Russian court treated them as mercenaries so are saying they have no protections…
There is zero chance they go thru with it as that would turn the screw big time! Basically the Russians are going to use them as hostage pieces |
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By *yron69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Why is the nationality of the person sentenced to death important?
Surely it's all equally abhorrent.
It doesn’t… even though they are British citizens, they have live in Ukraine for years and are part of the Ukrainian marines…. So they should be treated as POWs under the Geneva convention, however this Russian court treated them as mercenaries so are saying they have no protections…
There is zero chance they go thru with it as that would turn the screw big time! Basically the Russians are going to use them as hostage pieces "
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By *yron69 OP Man
over a year ago
Fareham |
"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Why is the nationality of the person sentenced to death important?
Surely it's all equally abhorrent."
Maybe it’s because as British they are being treated as mercenaries not as Ukrainians and as this is a British site it may be of interest to others. |
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?"
Do the time that fits the crime. |
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By *yron69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime. "
None committed. |
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime. "
I dont think its a crime to help defend the country you have lived in for many years and call home, the crime is a unjust Russian invasion of a sovereign state. |
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By *yron69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
I dont think its a crime to help defend the country you have lived in for many years and call home, the crime is a unjust Russian invasion of a sovereign state."
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
None committed."
Clearly the Russians and their chums would disagree, which in this regards means more then sympathetic words on a swingers forum . |
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
None committed.
Clearly the Russians and their chums would disagree, which in this regards means more then sympathetic words on a swingers forum . "
So I take it that you agree with the sham Russian trial and the sentence placed on these 2 men then? |
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
None committed.
Clearly the Russians and their chums would disagree, which in this regards means more then sympathetic words on a swingers forum .
So I take it that you agree with the sham Russian trial and the sentence placed on these 2 men then?"
I’m no friend of the Russians. I’m pro good guys |
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime. "
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed?"
If they’re British nationals and they have been captured by the enemy in a country not of their own. And have committed a crime as accused by the enemy of said crime and the penalty being clear from the beginning , my original quote stands . |
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By *yron69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed?
If they’re British nationals and they have been captured by the enemy in a country not of their own. And have committed a crime as accused by the enemy of said crime and the penalty being clear from the beginning , my original quote stands . "
Therefore a Russian captured in the Ukraine would be guilty of the same according to your ‘logic’. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed?
If they’re British nationals and they have been captured by the enemy in a country not of their own. And have committed a crime as accused by the enemy of said crime and the penalty being clear from the beginning , my original quote stands .
Therefore a Russian captured in the Ukraine would be guilty of the same according to your ‘logic’."
My logic is law is law of that nation.
It’s really not a difficult concept . |
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By *yron69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed?
If they’re British nationals and they have been captured by the enemy in a country not of their own. And have committed a crime as accused by the enemy of said crime and the penalty being clear from the beginning , my original quote stands .
Therefore a Russian captured in the Ukraine would be guilty of the same according to your ‘logic’.
My logic is law is law of that nation.
It’s really not a difficult concept . "
It’s not a recognised nation. It is a fiefdom. Sorry you cannot understand that.  |
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed?
If they’re British nationals and they have been captured by the enemy in a country not of their own. And have committed a crime as accused by the enemy of said crime and the penalty being clear from the beginning , my original quote stands .
Therefore a Russian captured in the Ukraine would be guilty of the same according to your ‘logic’.
My logic is law is law of that nation.
It’s really not a difficult concept .
It’s not a recognised nation. It is a fiefdom. Sorry you cannot understand that. "
Keep grasping. It’s amusing. |
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By *yron69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed?
If they’re British nationals and they have been captured by the enemy in a country not of their own. And have committed a crime as accused by the enemy of said crime and the penalty being clear from the beginning , my original quote stands .
Therefore a Russian captured in the Ukraine would be guilty of the same according to your ‘logic’.
My logic is law is law of that nation.
It’s really not a difficult concept .
It’s not a recognised nation. It is a fiefdom. Sorry you cannot understand that.
Keep grasping. It’s amusing. "
Not really. We know where you stand which is rather sad tbh. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed?
If they’re British nationals and they have been captured by the enemy in a country not of their own. And have committed a crime as accused by the enemy of said crime and the penalty being clear from the beginning , my original quote stands .
Therefore a Russian captured in the Ukraine would be guilty of the same according to your ‘logic’.
My logic is law is law of that nation.
It’s really not a difficult concept .
It’s not a recognised nation. It is a fiefdom. Sorry you cannot understand that.
Keep grasping. It’s amusing.
Not really. We know where you stand which is rather sad tbh."
I respect the rule of law. Clearly you have a problem with that . |
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed?
If they’re British nationals and they have been captured by the enemy in a country not of their own. And have committed a crime as accused by the enemy of said crime and the penalty being clear from the beginning , my original quote stands .
Therefore a Russian captured in the Ukraine would be guilty of the same according to your ‘logic’.
My logic is law is law of that nation.
It’s really not a difficult concept .
It’s not a recognised nation. It is a fiefdom. Sorry you cannot understand that.
Keep grasping. It’s amusing.
Not really. We know where you stand which is rather sad tbh.
I respect the rule of law. Clearly you have a problem with that . "
According to reports they defending Mariupol. So not in the nation who is prosecuting. Okay with that ?
And this country is a a self proclaimed republic and the courts giving the death sentence aren't internationally recognised. Okay with any institution passing judgements ?
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By *yron69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed?
If they’re British nationals and they have been captured by the enemy in a country not of their own. And have committed a crime as accused by the enemy of said crime and the penalty being clear from the beginning , my original quote stands .
Therefore a Russian captured in the Ukraine would be guilty of the same according to your ‘logic’.
My logic is law is law of that nation.
It’s really not a difficult concept .
It’s not a recognised nation. It is a fiefdom. Sorry you cannot understand that.
Keep grasping. It’s amusing.
Not really. We know where you stand which is rather sad tbh.
I respect the rule of law. Clearly you have a problem with that . "
Kangaroo courts and show trials yes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed?
If they’re British nationals and they have been captured by the enemy in a country not of their own. And have committed a crime as accused by the enemy of said crime and the penalty being clear from the beginning , my original quote stands .
Therefore a Russian captured in the Ukraine would be guilty of the same according to your ‘logic’.
My logic is law is law of that nation.
It’s really not a difficult concept .
It’s not a recognised nation. It is a fiefdom. Sorry you cannot understand that.
Keep grasping. It’s amusing.
Not really. We know where you stand which is rather sad tbh.
I respect the rule of law. Clearly you have a problem with that . "
The pro Russian court does not respect the rule of war and the treatment of pow, these two men have lived in Ukraine for a number of years, were not people who travelled to fight since the invasion.
You lack of both understanding and empathy is a said state of society, if you respect the law of the nation does this also mean you have issue with certain Islamic states beheading and hanging people because of their sexuality |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
It’s not a recognised nation. It is a fiefdom. Sorry you cannot understand that.
Keep grasping. It’s amusing.
Not really. We know where you stand which is rather sad tbh.
I respect the rule of law. Clearly you have a problem with that .
The pro Russian court does not respect the rule of war and the treatment of pow, these two men have lived in Ukraine for a number of years, were not people who travelled to fight since the invasion.
You lack of both understanding and empathy is a said state of society, if you respect the law of the nation does this also mean you have issue with certain Islamic states beheading and hanging people because of their sexuality "
I have understand and have empathy; doesn’t mean I reject law. Sadly lots of bad things happen during Wars. And an International Criminal Court will look into it .
Clearly if these 2 Brits were living in the Ukraine then they are expats. But they were labelled as British nationals, joining a war in a country not of their own.
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They are both married to Ukrainian women and are both signed-up members of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade. International law considers them Ukrainian combatants so they are entitled to be treated as prisoners of war. |
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"They are both married to Ukrainian women and are both signed-up members of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade. International law considers them Ukrainian combatants so they are entitled to be treated as prisoners of war. "
Why are they labelled as Brits? Why do we even care, if they’re Ukrainian combatants. They are fighting to defend their new country .
If they travelled there because our Foreign secretary suggested it was a good thing, then by all means we should care and do what it takes to return them home . But their home is Ukraine . |
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"They are both married to Ukrainian women and are both signed-up members of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade. International law considers them Ukrainian combatants so they are entitled to be treated as prisoners of war.
Why are they labelled as Brits? Why do we even care, if they’re Ukrainian combatants. They are fighting to defend their new country .
If they travelled there because our Foreign secretary suggested it was a good thing, then by all means we should care and do what it takes to return them home . But their home is Ukraine . "
They have dual nationality passports and WE care because we are decent human beings. You obviously don't care. I need say no more. |
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"They are both married to Ukrainian women and are both signed-up members of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade. International law considers them Ukrainian combatants so they are entitled to be treated as prisoners of war.
Why are they labelled as Brits? Why do we even care, if they’re Ukrainian combatants. They are fighting to defend their new country .
If they travelled there because our Foreign secretary suggested it was a good thing, then by all means we should care and do what it takes to return them home . But their home is Ukraine .
They have dual nationality passports and WE care because we are decent human beings. You obviously don't care. I need say no more."
Do you equally care about other Britons that have gone overseas to fight ? |
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"They are both married to Ukrainian women and are both signed-up members of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade. International law considers them Ukrainian combatants so they are entitled to be treated as prisoners of war.
Why are they labelled as Brits? Why do we even care, if they’re Ukrainian combatants. They are fighting to defend their new country .
If they travelled there because our Foreign secretary suggested it was a good thing, then by all means we should care and do what it takes to return them home . But their home is Ukraine .
They have dual nationality passports and WE care because we are decent human beings. You obviously don't care. I need say no more.
Do you equally care about other Britons that have gone overseas to fight ?"
I suspect death sentences by courts in self declared republics create news. I suspect that death sentences amisdt a way creates news too. The Brits element is probably the icing.
Wasn't your original point around them doing their time as they commited a crime?
Where are you now? People have thrown doubt in both if they committed a crime and where the crime took place realtive to the "country" prosecuting...
You seem to have switched lanes on what you are arguing.
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"They are both married to Ukrainian women and are both signed-up members of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade. International law considers them Ukrainian combatants so they are entitled to be treated as prisoners of war.
Why are they labelled as Brits? Why do we even care, if they’re Ukrainian combatants. They are fighting to defend their new country .
If they travelled there because our Foreign secretary suggested it was a good thing, then by all means we should care and do what it takes to return them home . But their home is Ukraine .
They have dual nationality passports and WE care because we are decent human beings. You obviously don't care. I need say no more.
Do you equally care about other Britons that have gone overseas to fight ?I suspect death sentences by courts in self declared republics create news. I suspect that death sentences amisdt a way creates news too. The Brits element is probably the icing.
Wasn't your original point around them doing their time as they commited a crime?
Where are you now? People have thrown doubt in both if they committed a crime and where the crime took place realtive to the "country" prosecuting...
You seem to have switched lanes on what you are arguing.
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No I haven’t . Explain how I have switched lanes. |
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"Russia has an army of professional mercenaries called Wagner who are financed by an oligarch and supported by Putin. "
I don’t understand the relevance.
If Ukrainians capture these mercenaries I would state the same . |
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"They are both married to Ukrainian women and are both signed-up members of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade. International law considers them Ukrainian combatants so they are entitled to be treated as prisoners of war.
Why are they labelled as Brits? Why do we even care, if they’re Ukrainian combatants. They are fighting to defend their new country .
If they travelled there because our Foreign secretary suggested it was a good thing, then by all means we should care and do what it takes to return them home . But their home is Ukraine .
They have dual nationality passports and WE care because we are decent human beings. You obviously don't care. I need say no more.
Do you equally care about other Britons that have gone overseas to fight ?I suspect death sentences by courts in self declared republics create news. I suspect that death sentences amisdt a way creates news too. The Brits element is probably the icing.
Wasn't your original point around them doing their time as they commited a crime?
Where are you now? People have thrown doubt in both if they committed a crime and where the crime took place realtive to the "country" prosecuting...
You seem to have switched lanes on what you are arguing.
No I haven’t . Explain how I have switched lanes."
They were captured it seems outside of DPR. They appear not to be mercenaries but part of the army.
So in your view have they broken DPR law ?
(Second question, do you recognise DPR as a legitimate state to have their own laws?) |
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"They are both married to Ukrainian women and are both signed-up members of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade. International law considers them Ukrainian combatants so they are entitled to be treated as prisoners of war.
Why are they labelled as Brits? Why do we even care, if they’re Ukrainian combatants. They are fighting to defend their new country .
If they travelled there because our Foreign secretary suggested it was a good thing, then by all means we should care and do what it takes to return them home . But their home is Ukraine .
They have dual nationality passports and WE care because we are decent human beings. You obviously don't care. I need say no more.
Do you equally care about other Britons that have gone overseas to fight ?I suspect death sentences by courts in self declared republics create news. I suspect that death sentences amisdt a way creates news too. The Brits element is probably the icing.
Wasn't your original point around them doing their time as they commited a crime?
Where are you now? People have thrown doubt in both if they committed a crime and where the crime took place realtive to the "country" prosecuting...
You seem to have switched lanes on what you are arguing.
No I haven’t . Explain how I have switched lanes.
They were captured it seems outside of DPR. They appear not to be mercenaries but part of the army.
So in your view have they broken DPR law ?
(Second question, do you recognise DPR as a legitimate state to have their own laws?)"
I have no idea what you’re talking about .
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They were captured outside of DPR.
They appear not to be mercenaries but part of the army.
So in your view have they broken DPR law ?
(Second question, do you recognise DPR as a legitimate state to have their own laws?)
I have no idea what you’re talking about .
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By *amish SMan
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
Just to clarify, do you mean by this that you think the two British nationals should be executed?
If they’re British nationals and they have been captured by the enemy in a country not of their own. And have committed a crime as accused by the enemy of said crime and the penalty being clear from the beginning , my original quote stands .
Therefore a Russian captured in the Ukraine would be guilty of the same according to your ‘logic’."
Technically, yes as no declaration of war has been made by either side.
Sentencing the Moroccan to death could be one hell of a mistake. |
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"Two British nationals fighting for Ukraine and captured by pro Russian rebels have been sentenced to death.
Is there no depth Putin’s rabble won’t stoop to?
Do the time that fits the crime.
None committed.
Clearly the Russians and their chums would disagree, which in this regards means more then sympathetic words on a swingers forum .
So I take it that you agree with the sham Russian trial and the sentence placed on these 2 men then?
I’m no friend of the Russians. I’m pro good guys "
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