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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
Lol these “benefits” are completely ridiculous. Notice there’s nothing about reducing VAT or an additional £350m a week for the NHS.
It’s basically worker exploitation, removing consumer protections, removing health and safety regs, and making professionals less professional and more dangerous.
A race to the bottom then.
Again, well done Leave voters, really well done! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Lol these “benefits” are completely ridiculous. Notice there’s nothing about reducing VAT or an additional £350m a week for the NHS.
It’s basically worker exploitation, removing consumer protections, removing health and safety regs, and making professionals less professional and more dangerous.
A race to the bottom then.
Again, well done Leave voters, really well done!"
They knew what they were voting for , |
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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
"Now I understand why we left the EU...
Had they only written that on the side of a bus in the first place."
Bought a Pneumatic Henry last year after relegated old one to workshop duties. Was concerned that over half the power, performance would suffer.
Nope, I'm well impressed with it and should have got one years ago. |
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"and faster kettles? but the electric is soo expensive we dare not plug them in ! "
Faster kettles are actually more efficient (speaking with my physics degree head on). The longer they take to heat up, the more heat energy they lose to the surroundings. Each litre of water still requires the same amount of energy to raise temp to 100°. If it takes 2 mins to do this rather than 90s then it is losing heat for an extra 30s. Not rocket science!! |
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"and faster kettles? but the electric is soo expensive we dare not plug them in !
Faster kettles are actually more efficient (speaking with my physics degree head on). The longer they take to heat up, the more heat energy they lose to the surroundings. Each litre of water still requires the same amount of energy to raise temp to 100°. If it takes 2 mins to do this rather than 90s then it is losing heat for an extra 30s. Not rocket science!! "
No, it physics  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Remoaners. Snore….."
Surely you just be proud to be part of making such a fantastic change - more powerful hoovers are obviously what Brexit is all about and has been highlighted as being one of the main benifits.
A proud achievement indeed.
Well done
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"and faster kettles? but the electric is soo expensive we dare not plug them in !
Faster kettles are actually more efficient (speaking with my physics degree head on). The longer they take to heat up, the more heat energy they lose to the surroundings. Each litre of water still requires the same amount of energy to raise temp to 100°. If it takes 2 mins to do this rather than 90s then it is losing heat for an extra 30s. Not rocket science!! "
Kettles are supposed to generate heat to boil the water.
The heating element is a resistor. Any increased heat in the tiny amount of circuitry would be infinitesimally small.
The same amount of energy is used to boil the water.
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Now I understand why we left the EU...
Had they only written that on the side of a bus in the first place."
More "power" being used by any device does not make it better. It just means that it uses more energy.
An inefficient vacuum cleaner could use twice as much power to generate the same suction as an efficient one with half of the power rating. No benefit except to the electricity company.
Regulation is often needed to drive innovation and benefit the consumer or wider society.
Just a distraction headline again  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Now I understand why we left the EU...
Had they only written that on the side of a bus in the first place.
More "power" being used by any device does not make it better. It just means that it uses more energy.
An inefficient vacuum cleaner could use twice as much power to generate the same suction as an efficient one with half of the power rating. No benefit except to the electricity company.
Regulation is often needed to drive innovation and benefit the consumer or wider society.
Just a distraction headline again "
Agreed that it is just a distraction headline however, when the government has to create a department to find out what Brexit benifits there are then that same department consults readers of the Sun to ask the same question ... something is far wrong.
The net result of all that time and money spent trying to find Brexit benifits then comes up with more powerful vacuum cleaners ...
No wonder that people who never voted for this shambles shake their heads in disbelief.
Just wait until the goverment goes cap in hand to the EU and asks for a Norway type deal where the UK accepts the rules yet has no influence in their making.
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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
"Now I understand why we left the EU...
Had they only written that on the side of a bus in the first place.
More "power" being used by any device does not make it better. It just means that it uses more energy.
An inefficient vacuum cleaner could use twice as much power to generate the same suction as an efficient one with half of the power rating. No benefit except to the electricity company.
Regulation is often needed to drive innovation and benefit the consumer or wider society.
Just a distraction headline again "
Absolutely, the old days of over engineering and too many horses.
Now, with design technology and taking Henry into consideration. Stripping down both motors and vacuum impeller, there is no comparison.
If anything, it just proves the old ones were inefficient and the EU were right to force lazy manufacturers to redesign them and we were wrong to object to the new rules.
If your new lower power vacuum isn't cutting it and disappointing, then get one with proper design built into it!! |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Now I understand why we left the EU...
Had they only written that on the side of a bus in the first place.
More "power" being used by any device does not make it better. It just means that it uses more energy.
An inefficient vacuum cleaner could use twice as much power to generate the same suction as an efficient one with half of the power rating. No benefit except to the electricity company.
Regulation is often needed to drive innovation and benefit the consumer or wider society.
Just a distraction headline again
Absolutely, the old days of over engineering and too many horses.
Now, with design technology and taking Henry into consideration. Stripping down both motors and vacuum impeller, there is no comparison.
If anything, it just proves the old ones were inefficient and the EU were right to force lazy manufacturers to redesign them and we were wrong to object to the new rules.
If your new lower power vacuum isn't cutting it and disappointing, then get one with proper design built into it!!"
That takes us to demanding cheap things and being surprised when they don't work or to find out that they're built in lower wage economies... |
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"Notice there’s nothing about reducing VAT ..."
"They did remove VAT from women's sanitary products. How much more Brexit bonus do you want?"
"Wasn't that an EU decision"
It wasn't. In 2016 the EU changed the VAT directive to allow countries to set lower rates on certain items. This allowed the UK to set a rate of 5%, which was the minimum allowed.
Thanks to Brexit the UK now has the freedom to scrap the tax altogether, saving todays young girls an estimated £40 over their lifetime.
Yay Brexit! |
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Dyson has been battling the EU for years to win his argument that their vacuum cleaner test was allowing ineffective and inefficient machines to be sold with a better performance rating than his own could achieve in the test. He is a clever and very wealthy man but you have to ask yourself why 99.9 per cent of commercial cleaners use a Numatic Henry? It’s maybe something to do with that they do the job really well and aren’t flashy and possibly more so that is down to the inventor and owner of Numatic being a good bloke who still lives and works in and around his factory in Somerset. |
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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
Acquired my first one in 1990 that had been uses twice a day in a retail store.
Two years ago, I modified a barrel into a cyclone filter to allow crap to be caught without blocking filter bag and connected that to the Henry.
Ran it for 8 hours for 4 days to empty a loft where cement had dropped onto ceiling prior to new insulation. It's been battered for cleaning, building clean up, rewire clearing out joists but still goes strong.
It's now in workshop doing dirty work until it dies as slight squeeze on motor, but think it'll outlive me. I might just get a new motor.
New, smaller 500w one for house and no doubt that will last 35+ years. As you state, they are everywhere, caravan parks, commercial, shops and they just keep going. |
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