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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Hopefully Biden will push anti guns laws through quick due to recent events in America.
No citizen should have access to assault rifles and limited access to pistols if at all."
It would require a change to the American constitution Don’t see that happening, unfortunately  |
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By *yron69 OP Man
over a year ago
Fareham |
"Hopefully Biden will push anti guns laws through quick due to recent events in America.
No citizen should have access to assault rifles and limited access to pistols if at all.
It would require a change to the American constitution Don’t see that happening, unfortunately "
Maybe but perhaps people need to be reminded it’s not the 1780s. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Hopefully Biden will push anti guns laws through quick due to recent events in America.
No citizen should have access to assault rifles and limited access to pistols if at all.
It would require a change to the American constitution Don’t see that happening, unfortunately
Maybe but perhaps people need to be reminded it’s not the 1780s."
It still is in great swathes of America. The bias of senate seats towards the southern gun loving states despite other areas having more people means they won’t pass restrictions any time soon,
What a tragic state to be in.
Even if they ban them how the hell do they collect in over 300m guns? |
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By *amantMan
over a year ago
Alnmouth |
It won't happen, sheer fantasy to think otherwise. It isn't the vested interests or anything like that, it's the culture and mindset behind it. Why will this shooting change anything? There'll be another school shooting soon enough, the name of this one will be forgotten by most here in a few months, only to be replaced by the latest one and on it goes, just as night follows day. 6k gun deaths this year, not including suicide shootings, and does anyone really think this shooting will change anything? |
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By *amantMan
over a year ago
Alnmouth |
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The above speaks to your sensibilities. Do you believe that the right to bear arms should not be infringed? Or do you think the 'militia' needs regulating?
The world was a vastly different place in the late 1700s. A mass shooting then would be difficult to undertake without accomplices. The constitution has changed in the past and will probably change in the future. But amending this, simply means a declaration of war against too many Americans. A lot more people will die needlessly before meaningful change will happen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The US constitution allows all Americans the right to bear arms. Remember a few years ago when Piers Morgan suggested getting rid of guns? He was hounded out of the US. "
What about the rights of the bear to keep his arms..? |
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"Hopefully Biden will push anti guns laws through quick due to recent events in America.
No citizen should have access to assault rifles and limited access to pistols if at all.
It would require a change to the American constitution Don’t see that happening, unfortunately "
Some loony lefties are even suggesting that the lives of children are more important than a piece of paper.
Shocking. |
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"It won't happen, sheer fantasy to think otherwise. It isn't the vested interests or anything like that, it's the culture and mindset behind it. Why will this shooting change anything? There'll be another school shooting soon enough, the name of this one will be forgotten by most here in a few months, only to be replaced by the latest one and on it goes, just as night follows day. 6k gun deaths this year, not including suicide shootings, and does anyone really think this shooting will change anything? "
Exactly. The NRA is an extremely powerful lobbyists, and the arms manufacturers heavily sponsor both parties in the US.
Children getting mass murdered won't make a jot of a difference. |
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Not sure how accurate these numbers are.. But isn't it something like 6000 deaths due to guns a year.? Twin towers was something like 3000....which caused emergency legislation and war on terror.... They can do it if they want to. |
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"Not sure how accurate these numbers are.. But isn't it something like 6000 deaths due to guns a year.? Twin towers was something like 3000....which caused emergency legislation and war on terror.... They can do it if they want to. "
911 was brown foreigners though. Guns make vast profits for white Americans.
That's the difference. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Hopefully Biden will push anti guns laws through quick due to recent events in America.
No citizen should have access to assault rifles and limited access to pistols if at all."
They can get it through the house.. that’s not the problem
You would need 60 votes in the senate for anything to become law… the democrats have 50… which means you would need 10 republican senators to agree
That ain’t happening any time soon! |
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"Not sure how accurate these numbers are.. But isn't it something like 6000 deaths due to guns a year.?"
So far this year it's 7626, that's deliberate and accidental gun deaths, excluding suicide. That's a normal number for this time of year. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Right-wing America...
Newly conceived fetus - IT'S A HUMAN LIFE AND WE WILL BULLY AND OPRESS YOU TO PROTECT IT.
Schoolchild - THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS BUT WE WILL KEEP OUR GUNS."
They're not daft. With no abortions there will be more kids they can use as target practice. |
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"Hopefully Biden will push anti guns laws through quick due to recent events in America.
No citizen should have access to assault rifles and limited access to pistols if at all.
It would require a change to the American constitution Don’t see that happening, unfortunately
Maybe but perhaps people need to be reminded it’s not the 1780s.
It still is in great swathes of America. The bias of senate seats towards the southern gun loving states despite other areas having more people means they won’t pass restrictions any time soon,
What a tragic state to be in.
Even if they ban them how the hell do they collect in over 300m guns? "
exactly it’s an impossible situation the nutters and criminals wouldn’t hand any in so they be still fucked |
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"Even if they ban them how the hell do they collect in over 300m guns?"
"exactly it’s an impossible situation the nutters and criminals wouldn’t hand any in so they be still fucked "
Most of the mass shootings are committed with legally acquired guns. It's not nutters and criminals that do this, it's normal people that have "fallen down". |
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By *amantMan
over a year ago
Alnmouth |
Dunblane, Winnenden, Port Arthur, gun control works when done at a national level. But in a lot of cases in the states, an 'illegally held' firearm is one that was purchased legally but taken into a state with more stringent gun laws. It effectively outlines the need for greater control at a national level and the limitations of devolution on some issues.
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"Right-wing America...
Newly conceived fetus - IT'S A HUMAN LIFE AND WE WILL BULLY AND OPRESS YOU TO PROTECT IT.
Schoolchild - THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS BUT WE WILL KEEP OUR GUNS."
Yep. This. Your life is important to us - right up until the moment you are born; then fuck you! Particularly if you are poor, or non-white, or both. |
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"Even if they ban them how the hell do they collect in over 300m guns?
exactly it’s an impossible situation the nutters and criminals wouldn’t hand any in so they be still fucked
Most of the mass shootings are committed with legally acquired guns. It's not nutters and criminals that do this, it's normal people that have "fallen down"."
fallen down ffs do you want sympathy for the cunts who kill now |
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"Even if they ban them how the hell do they collect in over 300m guns?"
"exactly it’s an impossible situation the nutters and criminals wouldn’t hand any in so they be still fucked"
"Most of the mass shootings are committed with legally acquired guns. It's not nutters and criminals that do this, it's normal people that have "fallen down"."
"fallen down ffs do you want sympathy for the cunts who kill now "
Hmm. Perhaps that was a bad phrase to use.
I wasn't attempting to soften their crimes at all. I was trying to say that these killings aren't caused by hardened criminals, or the sort of person that mental health checks could screen for.
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I just found this on The Onion:
https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848971668
They print the same story each time this happens, just varying the place name and body count, in an attempt to make a point. Sadly, it doesn't seem to be working. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
Ted Cruz says it’s a proven case that armed police or custodians at schools will prevent this.
Two armed offices confronted him at the school followed by two more. He still managed to enter the school and kill the children. Theory debunked.
The Republican politicians are in the pocket of the gun lobby. It’s that simple.
With nearly 400million guns in the country what isn’t so simple is fixing the problem.
Maybe to start
Background checks
No sales to under 30year olds as they commit the most crimes
No public carry concealed or otherwise and jail if you do.
No licence to hold a gun then off you go to jail.
Small steps to push the guns back a bit,
Reduce the flood then go after the illegal guns. |
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"Ted Cruz says it’s a proven case that armed police or custodians at schools will prevent this.
Two armed offices confronted him at the school followed by two more. He still managed to enter the school and kill the children. Theory debunked.
The Republican politicians are in the pocket of the gun lobby. It’s that simple.
With nearly 400million guns in the country what isn’t so simple is fixing the problem.
Maybe to start
Background checks
No sales to under 30year olds as they commit the most crimes
No public carry concealed or otherwise and jail if you do.
No licence to hold a gun then off you go to jail.
Small steps to push the guns back a bit,
Reduce the flood then go after the illegal guns. "
spot on jackal but getting the illegal guns will be impossible sadly |
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Let's imagine for one moment that the perpetrators of the thousands already killed this year were.. Oh.. Let's say called Mohamed.
And let's imagine further that they were aliens from the middle east.
I wonder if they'd make some efforts to pass legislation then..? |
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"Let's imagine for one moment that the perpetrators of the thousands already killed this year were.. Oh.. Let's say called Mohamed.
And let's imagine further that they were aliens from the middle east.
I wonder if they'd make some efforts to pass legislation then..? "
errr no they wouldn’t |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Dear Americans. Your army (and others) now has a fuxk load of weapons way more powerful than your guns.
So you having a few pistols is no longer making that much of a difference as to whether you have a well regulated Militia.
Your bringing a spoon to a knife fight. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Ted Cruz says it’s a proven case that armed police or custodians at schools will prevent this.
Two armed offices confronted him at the school followed by two more. He still managed to enter the school and kill the children. Theory debunked.
The Republican politicians are in the pocket of the gun lobby. It’s that simple.
With nearly 400million guns in the country what isn’t so simple is fixing the problem.
Maybe to start
Background checks
No sales to under 30year olds as they commit the most crimes
No public carry concealed or otherwise and jail if you do.
No licence to hold a gun then off you go to jail.
Small steps to push the guns back a bit,
Reduce the flood then go after the illegal guns. spot on jackal but getting the illegal guns will be impossible sadly "
The buffalo supermarket shooting 2 weeks ago they had an armed security officer at the entrance… he was shot dead because the attacker had better equipment… |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
American politics is far too polarized at the moment for change.
Until the centre ground regain the power, then nothing will be achieved.
This perpetrator couldn't legally buy a beer but could legally buy an assault rifle! |
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"Let's imagine for one moment that the perpetrators of the thousands already killed this year were.. Oh.. Let's say called Mohamed.
And let's imagine further that they were aliens from the middle east.
I wonder if they'd make some efforts to pass legislation then..? errr no they wouldn’t "
I suggest you look up the Mulford act
Gun laws in California were changed only because black people started to open carry  It was even supported by the NRA. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
To see the scale of the problem scroll down this website and look at some of the tables. It’s mind blowing how big the problem is. Look at the annual state sales figures.
Interesting how the year more guns were sold more deaths occurred. Wonder if there was an increase in mental illness too which would explain the increase. ( Obviously the NRA say that’s the problem).
https://www.safehome.org/data/firearms-guns-statistics/ |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
We’re distant from it here in the UK but my brother lives in Chicago.
He’s fortunate to live in a safe area which has its own police force and private security patrolling the streets. He also lives near the Obama’s old home so there’s been a load of armed to the teeth marines constantly on watch for years so crime isn’t a problem for him.
The thing he told me was scary. On a quiet still summers evening you can hear gunfire from the south side all the time.
He said the hotter it gets the more gunfire there is. Beer and guns. Hundreds of shootings over a weekend.
If you’ve ever been through that south side and I have, then you can see clearly that crime is going to be one of the very few options to escape . It’s a very deprived housing area bigger than most cities in this country, but the guns make it so much worse.
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"And this weekend in Texas..
The three-day rally is set to "showcase over 14 acres of the latest guns and gear," according to its official website... "
Guest speakers are Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.
Truly repugnant! |
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"And this weekend in Texas..
The three-day rally is set to "showcase over 14 acres of the latest guns and gear," according to its official website...
Guest speakers are Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.
Truly repugnant!"
It's the likes of Ted Cruz, Trump and Governor Abbot who's job it is to make sure that mass murderers have access to the best battlefield weaponry possible. And to give credit where credit is due they have done a stellar job in that regard, keeping America yet again at number 1 in the world when it comes to school children killings. |
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