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over a year ago
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Does Israel have total immunity to do what it likes..? I refer to the shooting of the Al Jazeera journalist, then the police attacking the pallbearers. |
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Was hoping to send a message privately but you are not receiving messages for tvs! Which is fine of course xx
Am afraid the answer to your question is unfortunately yes - the rest of the world will rightly accuse Russia of occupation and unacceptable acts of terror against civilians but the same is not said of Israel.
Be interesting to see at what point you and I will be accused of being anti semite for our criticism of Israel  |
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"Was hoping to send a message privately but you are not receiving messages for tvs! Which is fine of course xx
Am afraid the answer to your question is unfortunately yes - the rest of the world will rightly accuse Russia of occupation and unacceptable acts of terror against civilians but the same is not said of Israel.
Be interesting to see at what point you and I will be accused of being anti semite for our criticism of Israel "
If this happened in European country it would be rightly condemned. But a country that gets so much support from the west is unaccountable. No rhetoric on democracy and human rights.
The anti semitic accusations are being used to shut up anybody who dates questions Israel government actions, its ridiculous. |
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Part of the issue is that some people see criticism of Israel (the state/Govt) as being anti semitic, ie anti Jewish (the religion).
According to the Israeli constitution Israel is not a theocracy and anyone with enough votes can be represented in the parliament. However, as the population is almost exclusively followers of the Jewish faith, it is highly unlikely a non Jew would get elected to parliament.
Over the years Israel has become increasingly theocratic and the lines have completely blurred between religion and state Government. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not all countries in the West.
Ireland supports the Palestinians and recognises the Palestinian state"
It's appalling, total lack of coverage in western media |
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The geopolitical world sees Isreal as the better of two evils. They are seen as extremely well positioned for proxy attacks from other countries if needed. There’s also the religious and historical importance of the region etc.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not all countries in the West.
Ireland supports the Palestinians and recognises the Palestinian state"
Actually Ireland doesn't officially support the Palestinian State...
Iceland does |
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There us no evidence to show that the Israelis shot the journalist as there was crossfire from the Palestinian side. Israel wanted to conduct a joint enquiry with the Palestinian authority, but they refused. |
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"Part of the issue is that some people see criticism of Israel (the state/Govt) as being anti semitic, ie anti Jewish (the religion).
According to the Israeli constitution Israel is not a theocracy and anyone with enough votes can be represented in the parliament. However, as the population is almost exclusively followers of the Jewish faith, it is highly unlikely a non Jew would get elected to parliament.
Over the years Israel has become increasingly theocratic and the lines have completely blurred between religion and state Government."
Utter lies! The Knesset (Israeli Parliament) has people of ALL faiths - including Arab Israelis. There are 14 Arab Israeli members of the Knesset and there is no bar to them at all. Antisemitic and racist lies. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Was hoping to send a message privately but you are not receiving messages for tvs! Which is fine of course xx
Am afraid the answer to your question is unfortunately yes - the rest of the world will rightly accuse Russia of occupation and unacceptable acts of terror against civilians but the same is not said of Israel.
Be interesting to see at what point you and I will be accused of being anti semite for our criticism of Israel
If this happened in European country it would be rightly condemned. But a country that gets so much support from the west is unaccountable. No rhetoric on democracy and human rights.
The anti semitic accusations are being used to shut up anybody who dates questions Israel government actions, its ridiculous. "
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"There us no evidence to show that the Israelis shot the journalist as there was crossfire from the Palestinian side. Israel wanted to conduct a joint enquiry with the Palestinian authority, but they refused. "
Post all the info, how they refused?? |
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"There us no evidence to show that the Israelis shot the journalist as there was crossfire from the Palestinian side. Israel wanted to conduct a joint enquiry with the Palestinian authority, but they refused.
Post all the info, how they refused??"
Here:
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20220512-palestinians-honour-slain-journalist-reject-joint-investigation-with-israel |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Part of the issue is that some people see criticism of Israel (the state/Govt) as being anti semitic, ie anti Jewish (the religion).
According to the Israeli constitution Israel is not a theocracy and anyone with enough votes can be represented in the parliament. However, as the population is almost exclusively followers of the Jewish faith, it is highly unlikely a non Jew would get elected to parliament.
Over the years Israel has become increasingly theocratic and the lines have completely blurred between religion and state Government.
Utter lies! The Knesset (Israeli Parliament) has people of ALL faiths - including Arab Israelis. There are 14 Arab Israeli members of the Knesset and there is no bar to them at all. Antisemitic and racist lies. "
Omg you OK?? You seem very angry upset and aggressive your post.. |
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"Part of the issue is that some people see criticism of Israel (the state/Govt) as being anti semitic, ie anti Jewish (the religion).
According to the Israeli constitution Israel is not a theocracy and anyone with enough votes can be represented in the parliament. However, as the population is almost exclusively followers of the Jewish faith, it is highly unlikely a non Jew would get elected to parliament.
Over the years Israel has become increasingly theocratic and the lines have completely blurred between religion and state Government.
Utter lies! The Knesset (Israeli Parliament) has people of ALL faiths - including Arab Israelis. There are 14 Arab Israeli members of the Knesset and there is no bar to them at all. Antisemitic and racist lies.
Omg you OK?? You seem very angry upset and aggressive your post.. "
Merely stating facts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Israel-Palestine issue is not same as Russia-Ukraine issue for one simple reason:
If the West strong arms Russia to submission, one can reasonably promise that Ukraine will leave them alone and go about their lives peacefully.
If the West strong arms Israel, can anyone promise the same from Palestinians? Organisations like Hamas have a goal to destroy Israel. Not saying that Israeli side is full of saints either. They are guilty of various human right violations. They have also been victims to brutal attacks from Palestine side.
Going by history, both sides have done their share of mistakes. Only if rulers in both sides change their stance and decide on achieving peace to be an objective, something good can happen there. Until then, there is no point in other countries to take sides on this issue. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Israel-Palestine issue is not same as Russia-Ukraine issue for one simple reason:
If the West strong arms Russia to submission, one can reasonably promise that Ukraine will leave them alone and go about their
If the West strong arms Israel, can anyone promise the same from Palestinians? Organisations like Hamas have a goal to destroy Israel. Not saying that Israeli side is full of saints either. They are guilty of various human right violations. They have also been victims to brutal attacks from Palestine side.
Going by history, both sides have done their share of mistakes. Only if rulers in both sides change their stance and decide on achieving peace to be an objective, something good can happen there. Until then, there is no point in other countries to take sides on this issue."
When was it formed? By the help of whom?
It's an occupied land under apartied.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can anyone from outside the country apply to emigrate to Isreal or are there restrictions? "
They do give work permits for people from other countries. Probably difficult for someone from Arab countries. But they have a thriving tech scene there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Israel-Palestine issue is not same as Russia-Ukraine issue for one simple reason:
If the West strong arms Russia to submission, one can reasonably promise that Ukraine will leave them alone and go about their
If the West strong arms Israel, can anyone promise the same from Palestinians? Organisations like Hamas have a goal to destroy Israel. Not saying that Israeli side is full of saints either. They are guilty of various human right violations. They have also been victims to brutal attacks from Palestine side.
Going by history, both sides have done their share of mistakes. Only if rulers in both sides change their stance and decide on achieving peace to be an objective, something good can happen there. Until then, there is no point in other countries to take sides on this issue.
When was it formed? By the help of whom?
It's an occupied land under apartied.
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How far into the history do you want to go to decide who occupied whose land?
All things considered, the best way to move forward was to establish some peace accord. But whenever some progress is made on building an agreement, someone decides to fuck up and resorts to violence. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Israel-Palestine issue is not same as Russia-Ukraine issue for one simple reason:
If the West strong arms Russia to submission, one can reasonably promise that Ukraine will leave them alone and go about their
If the West strong arms Israel, can anyone promise the same from Palestinians? Organisations like Hamas have a goal to destroy Israel. Not saying that Israeli side is full of saints either. They are guilty of various human right violations. They have also been victims to brutal attacks from Palestine side.
Going by history, both sides have done their share of mistakes. Only if rulers in both sides change their stance and decide on achieving peace to be an objective, something good can happen there. Until then, there is no point in other countries to take sides on this issue.
When was it formed? By the help of whom?
It's an occupied land under apartied.
How far into the history do you want to go to decide who occupied whose land?
All things considered, the best way to move forward was to establish some peace accord. But whenever some progress is made on building an agreement, someone decides to fuck up and resorts to violence."
Seems to me another fine mess that the Brits caused, similar to meddling in NI. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Israel-Palestine issue is not same as Russia-Ukraine issue for one simple reason:
If the West strong arms Russia to submission, one can reasonably promise that Ukraine will leave them alone and go about their
If the West strong arms Israel, can anyone promise the same from Palestinians? Organisations like Hamas have a goal to destroy Israel. Not saying that Israeli side is full of saints either. They are guilty of various human right violations. They have also been victims to brutal attacks from Palestine side.
Going by history, both sides have done their share of mistakes. Only if rulers in both sides change their stance and decide on achieving peace to be an objective, something good can happen there. Until then, there is no point in other countries to take sides on this issue.
When was it formed? By the help of whom?
It's an occupied land under apartied.
How far into the history do you want to go to decide who occupied whose land?
All things considered, the best way to move forward was to establish some peace accord. But whenever some progress is made on building an agreement, someone decides to fuck up and resorts to violence.
Seems to me another fine mess that the Brits caused, similar to meddling in NI. "
Correct. Post WWII, the Brits were in a rush to leave the occupied regions that they did not wait to think about the long term impact of it. Same with Kashmir too. But that was 70 years back. It's now the duty of these governments to find a solution. No one seems to be capable of it. |
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"Israel-Palestine issue is not same as Russia-Ukraine issue for one simple reason:
If the West strong arms Russia to submission, one can reasonably promise that Ukraine will leave them alone and go about their
If the West strong arms Israel, can anyone promise the same from Palestinians? Organisations like Hamas have a goal to destroy Israel. Not saying that Israeli side is full of saints either. They are guilty of various human right violations. They have also been victims to brutal attacks from Palestine side.
Going by history, both sides have done their share of mistakes. Only if rulers in both sides change their stance and decide on achieving peace to be an objective, something good can happen there. Until then, there is no point in other countries to take sides on this issue.
When was it formed? By the help of whom?
It's an occupied land under apartied.
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Israel was formed thousands of years ago, and is the Jewish homeland. The Romans named Judea “Palestine” and the British named it British Mandate Palestine. As for the definition of “apartheid” - a policy or system of segregation or discrimination on grounds of race - how is this possible when there are Arab Israeli Supreme Court justices, Members of the Knesset (Parliament) Police, lawyers, doctors etc? It certainly is NOT an apartheid state. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Israel-Palestine issue is not same as Russia-Ukraine issue for one simple reason:
If the West strong arms Russia to submission, one can reasonably promise that Ukraine will leave them alone and go about their
If the West strong arms Israel, can anyone promise the same from Palestinians? Organisations like Hamas have a goal to destroy Israel. Not saying that Israeli side is full of saints either. They are guilty of various human right violations. They have also been victims to brutal attacks from Palestine side.
Going by history, both sides have done their share of mistakes. Only if rulers in both sides change their stance and decide on achieving peace to be an objective, something good can happen there. Until then, there is no point in other countries to take sides on this issue.
When was it formed? By the help of whom?
It's an occupied land under apartied.
How far into the history do you want to go to decide who occupied whose land?
All things considered, the best way to move forward was to establish some peace accord. But whenever some progress is made on building an agreement, someone decides to fuck up and resorts to violence.
Seems to me another fine mess that the Brits caused, similar to meddling in NI. "
Indeed.
Those whom know they know.
A persistent bully in the playground uses passive and overt aggressive behaviour and tactics.
When confronted for his acts he starts crying. and fully plays the victim!! And on the very spot blame shifts onto the actual victim, avoiding all of his violations at all costs.
This very life is short, run but where will one hide.
Karma does not care about the wealth, power, influence links. other paid bought Alies.
Karma will serve to all, every soul has earned and in full recompense shall be delivered.
Viva freedom.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Israel-Palestine issue is not same as Russia-Ukraine issue for one simple reason:
If the West strong arms Russia to submission, one can reasonably promise that Ukraine will leave them alone and go about their
If the West strong arms Israel, can anyone promise the same from Palestinians? Organisations like Hamas have a goal to destroy Israel. Not saying that Israeli side is full of saints either. They are guilty of various human right violations. They have also been victims to brutal attacks from Palestine side.
Going by history, both sides have done their share of mistakes. Only if rulers in both sides change their stance and decide on achieving peace to be an objective, something good can happen there. Until then, there is no point in other countries to take sides on this issue.
When was it formed? By the help of whom?
It's an occupied land under apartied.
How far into the history do you want to go to decide who occupied whose land?
All things considered, the best way to move forward was to establish some peace accord. But whenever some progress is made on building an agreement, someone decides to fuck up and resorts to violence.
Seems to me another fine mess that the Brits caused, similar to meddling in NI. "
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"Was hoping to send a message privately but you are not receiving messages for tvs! Which is fine of course xx
Am afraid the answer to your question is unfortunately yes - the rest of the world will rightly accuse Russia of occupation and unacceptable acts of terror against civilians but the same is not said of Israel.
Be interesting to see at what point you and I will be accused of being anti semite for our criticism of Israel "
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"Was hoping to send a message privately but you are not receiving messages for tvs! Which is fine of course xx
Am afraid the answer to your question is unfortunately yes - the rest of the world will rightly accuse Russia of occupation and unacceptable acts of terror against civilians but the same is not said of Israel.
Be interesting to see at what point you and I will be accused of being anti semite for our criticism of Israel
If this happened in European country it would be rightly condemned. But a country that gets so much support from the west is unaccountable. No rhetoric on democracy and human rights.
The anti semitic accusations are being used to shut up anybody who dates questions Israel government actions, its ridiculous. "
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