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"Is anyone else longing for a Government that will just shut the fuck up and get on with quietly and efficiently governing the country? The psychodrama seems to be relentless and never-ending with every day bringing new stories of threats and upheavals. Today we have the story of Liz Truss preparing to unilaterally rip up parts of the N Ireland protocol next week and consequently put us at odds with the EU (again). But this is just one story in the daily line up of stories that seem purposely designed to rile people up and keep the country in a state of constant agitation. When will it end?" She should have just done it not bother shouting announcing it, the EU will not be happy but oh well  | |||
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"Is anyone else longing for a Government that will just shut the fuck up and get on with quietly and efficiently governing the country? The psychodrama seems to be relentless and never-ending with every day bringing new stories of threats and upheavals. Today we have the story of Liz Truss preparing to unilaterally rip up parts of the N Ireland protocol next week and consequently put us at odds with the EU (again). But this is just one story in the daily line up of stories that seem purposely designed to rile people up and keep the country in a state of constant agitation. When will it end?" It will end when people stop falling for the distractions. I can see why they do it, it's very effective. The Tories are maintaining their vice like grip on power despite their self serving nature, and they got people to vote against their own interests on brexit. While this carries on, we will have more of the pantomime. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers " No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. " | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. " Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up " Does it have to be , and who could stop it, you got a better idea,? | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up Does it have to be , and who could stop it, you got a better idea,?" Does it have to be legal? Are you taking the piss? | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up Does it have to be , and who could stop it, you got a better idea,?" are you suggesting HMG to act illegally? (Cue: again). | |||
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"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up Does it have to be , and who could stop it, you got a better idea,?" I have a better idea. A. Let's not waste millions of tax payers money flying refugees to Rwanda. B. Let's not encourage the government to break the law. | |||
"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible." ‘The majority think’ are you making stuff up again, | |||
"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible." I do agree. A lot of people are falling for this bollocks. Not sure if it's fair to say that the "majority" do though. Side note: are you playing devils advocate, or are you genuinely this confused about immigration? | |||
"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible." Firstly, sack Patel and get a better home secretary, and don’t break the law, | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. " Nice Wonder if you’d feel the same if it was your family. But then you’re alright Jack because you’re in the club so f**k anyone else. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Nice Wonder if you’d feel the same if it was your family. But then you’re alright Jack because you’re in the club so f**k anyone else. "
Jeez, I can't believe some of the characters on here... | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. " Many of these migrants are fleeing from torture and certain death in their own country. I don't think a flight to Rwanda is going to phase them. | |||
"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible." set up places nearer the main problem areas to accept and process applications. If Rwanda saves money versus UK (does it?) Then I'd imagine other places will. Plus cuts oxygen of smugglers. Plus gives you more confidence they have come from the said conflict place. Ps Where did 1.5pc on NI come from ? | |||
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"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible.set up places nearer the main problem areas to accept and process applications. If Rwanda saves money versus UK (does it?) Then I'd imagine other places will. Plus cuts oxygen of smugglers. Plus gives you more confidence they have come from the said conflict place. Ps Where did 1.5pc on NI come from ?" 1.25 my mistake | |||
"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible.set up places nearer the main problem areas to accept and process applications. If Rwanda saves money versus UK (does it?) Then I'd imagine other places will. Plus cuts oxygen of smugglers. Plus gives you more confidence they have come from the said conflict place. Ps Where did 1.5pc on NI come from ? 1.25 my mistake " What has the 1.25 pc increase in national insurance got to do with immigrants | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up " unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. " So you also think the government should break the law, | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, " yep if its for the greater good defiantly | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, yep if its for the greater good defiantly " Amazing, what is your version of the ‘greater good’ ? It would be cheaper and also illegal just to shoot the immigrants | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, " Change the law perhaps? Something needs to happen to protect these poor souls from being given false hope then put at risk by ruthless people traffickers/ criminal gangs that exploit them for money. They are all breaking the law by making an illegal entry to the country don’t forget. | |||
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"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Change the law perhaps? Something needs to happen to protect these poor souls from being given false hope then put at risk by ruthless people traffickers/ criminal gangs that exploit them for money. They are all breaking the law by making an illegal entry to the country don’t forget." So your primary concern is there safety and welfare and to eradicate traffickers ? Problem easily solved, provide safe passage . | |||
"People on here are doing am excellent job of demonstrating how effective the government pantomime is for distracting them and blaming immigrants for everything. Good work. " This is Brexit Britain, we don’t care if the government break the law, keep those pesky immigrants out at all cost . They can’t accept that leaving the EU has made the situation worse , | |||
"People on here are doing am excellent job of demonstrating how effective the government pantomime is for distracting them and blaming immigrants for everything. Good work. " I’ve not seen anyone here “blaming immigrants for everything “. Why do you suggest that? | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Change the law perhaps? Something needs to happen to protect these poor souls from being given false hope then put at risk by ruthless people traffickers/ criminal gangs that exploit them for money. They are all breaking the law by making an illegal entry to the country don’t forget. So your primary concern is there safety and welfare and to eradicate traffickers ? Problem easily solved, provide safe passage . " Safe passage for who? | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Change the law perhaps? Something needs to happen to protect these poor souls from being given false hope then put at risk by ruthless people traffickers/ criminal gangs that exploit them for money. They are all breaking the law by making an illegal entry to the country don’t forget. So your primary concern is there safety and welfare and to eradicate traffickers ? Problem easily solved, provide safe passage . Safe passage for who? " The people (immigrants) who want to come here , you are concerned about their welfare?? | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Change the law perhaps? Something needs to happen to protect these poor souls from being given false hope then put at risk by ruthless people traffickers/ criminal gangs that exploit them for money. They are all breaking the law by making an illegal entry to the country don’t forget. So your primary concern is there safety and welfare and to eradicate traffickers ? Problem easily solved, provide safe passage . Safe passage for who? The people (immigrants) who want to come here , you are concerned about their welfare??" What you are suggesting is to allow anyone that wants to, to simply come. Who will fund them, where will they live? | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Change the law perhaps? Something needs to happen to protect these poor souls from being given false hope then put at risk by ruthless people traffickers/ criminal gangs that exploit them for money. They are all breaking the law by making an illegal entry to the country don’t forget. So your primary concern is there safety and welfare and to eradicate traffickers ? Problem easily solved, provide safe passage . Safe passage for who? The people (immigrants) who want to come here , you are concerned about their welfare?? What you are suggesting is to allow anyone that wants to, to simply come. Who will fund them, where will they live?" It will be funded by the same people who are paying to send them to Rwanda, they will live in accommodation that is the same as that is provided in Rwanda, accept it will be in the UK . Only the people who are entitled to travel here will be allowed | |||
"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible.set up places nearer the main problem areas to accept and process applications. If Rwanda saves money versus UK (does it?) Then I'd imagine other places will. Plus cuts oxygen of smugglers. Plus gives you more confidence they have come from the said conflict place. Ps Where did 1.5pc on NI come from ? 1.25 my mistake What has the 1.25 pc increase in national insurance got to do with immigrants " Well if we didn't have to pay £ millions looking after them in hotels etc maybe it didn't need to go up. But the money has to come from somewhere shooting them is a bit over the top but at least you are thinking. | |||
"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible.set up places nearer the main problem areas to accept and process applications. If Rwanda saves money versus UK (does it?) Then I'd imagine other places will. Plus cuts oxygen of smugglers. Plus gives you more confidence they have come from the said conflict place. Ps Where did 1.5pc on NI come from ? 1.25 my mistake What has the 1.25 pc increase in national insurance got to do with immigrants Well if we didn't have to pay £ millions looking after them in hotels etc maybe it didn't need to go up. But the money has to come from somewhere shooting them is a bit over the top but at least you are thinking. " So the 1.25 % increase was introduced to pay for the immigrants? | |||
"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible.set up places nearer the main problem areas to accept and process applications. If Rwanda saves money versus UK (does it?) Then I'd imagine other places will. Plus cuts oxygen of smugglers. Plus gives you more confidence they have come from the said conflict place. Ps Where did 1.5pc on NI come from ? 1.25 my mistake What has the 1.25 pc increase in national insurance got to do with immigrants Well if we didn't have to pay £ millions looking after them in hotels etc maybe it didn't need to go up. But the money has to come from somewhere shooting them is a bit over the top but at least you are thinking. " Your beginning to show your ‘true colours’  | |||
"People on here are doing am excellent job of demonstrating how effective the government pantomime is for distracting them and blaming immigrants for everything. Good work. I’ve not seen anyone here “blaming immigrants for everything “. Why do you suggest that? " Another excellent example. Thank you. | |||
"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible.set up places nearer the main problem areas to accept and process applications. If Rwanda saves money versus UK (does it?) Then I'd imagine other places will. Plus cuts oxygen of smugglers. Plus gives you more confidence they have come from the said conflict place. Ps Where did 1.5pc on NI come from ? 1.25 my mistake What has the 1.25 pc increase in national insurance got to do with immigrants Well if we didn't have to pay £ millions looking after them in hotels etc maybe it didn't need to go up. But the money has to come from somewhere shooting them is a bit over the top but at least you are thinking. " This is where we're at, I don't know if you're on a wind up, or genuinely this confused. But there are people as bad as this out there. This is why the UK is in the state it's in right now. | |||
"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible.set up places nearer the main problem areas to accept and process applications. If Rwanda saves money versus UK (does it?) Then I'd imagine other places will. Plus cuts oxygen of smugglers. Plus gives you more confidence they have come from the said conflict place. Ps Where did 1.5pc on NI come from ? 1.25 my mistake What has the 1.25 pc increase in national insurance got to do with immigrants Well if we didn't have to pay £ millions looking after them in hotels etc maybe it didn't need to go up. But the money has to come from somewhere shooting them is a bit over the top but at least you are thinking. So the 1.25 % increase was introduced to pay for the immigrants? " It all goes into the big pot ,but if the pot is low and needs topping up guess who pays? | |||
"No just saying what the majority think and want, so who has a better idea as its costing £ millions in hotels etc let alone on the NHS school's etc. 1.5% on NI and wonder how as it has to be paid for, ill wait for a sensible answer if that's even possible.set up places nearer the main problem areas to accept and process applications. If Rwanda saves money versus UK (does it?) Then I'd imagine other places will. Plus cuts oxygen of smugglers. Plus gives you more confidence they have come from the said conflict place. Ps Where did 1.5pc on NI come from ? 1.25 my mistake What has the 1.25 pc increase in national insurance got to do with immigrants Well if we didn't have to pay £ millions looking after them in hotels etc maybe it didn't need to go up. But the money has to come from somewhere shooting them is a bit over the top but at least you are thinking. So the 1.25 % increase was introduced to pay for the immigrants? It all goes into the big pot ,but if the pot is low and needs topping up guess who pays?" What about the £3.8 billion that was lost in fraud by the current government | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Change the law perhaps? Something needs to happen to protect these poor souls from being given false hope then put at risk by ruthless people traffickers/ criminal gangs that exploit them for money. They are all breaking the law by making an illegal entry to the country don’t forget. So your primary concern is there safety and welfare and to eradicate traffickers ? Problem easily solved, provide safe passage . Safe passage for who? The people (immigrants) who want to come here , you are concerned about their welfare?? What you are suggesting is to allow anyone that wants to, to simply come. Who will fund them, where will they live? It will be funded by the same people who are paying to send them to Rwanda, they will live in accommodation that is the same as that is provided in Rwanda, accept it will be in the UK . Only the people who are entitled to travel here will be allowed " The taxpayers then. You know that Rwanda was never going to happen. It was the same nonsense as last year when they said they were bringing in the navy. The navy is just there to provide a safety and welcome facility not provided by the criminals. Who is entitled to come here? Am I entitled to go to France? | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Change the law perhaps? Something needs to happen to protect these poor souls from being given false hope then put at risk by ruthless people traffickers/ criminal gangs that exploit them for money. They are all breaking the law by making an illegal entry to the country don’t forget. So your primary concern is there safety and welfare and to eradicate traffickers ? Problem easily solved, provide safe passage . Safe passage for who? The people (immigrants) who want to come here , you are concerned about their welfare?? What you are suggesting is to allow anyone that wants to, to simply come. Who will fund them, where will they live? It will be funded by the same people who are paying to send them to Rwanda, they will live in accommodation that is the same as that is provided in Rwanda, accept it will be in the UK . Only the people who are entitled to travel here will be allowed The taxpayers then. You know that Rwanda was never going to happen. It was the same nonsense as last year when they said they were bringing in the navy. The navy is just there to provide a safety and welcome facility not provided by the criminals. Who is entitled to come here? Am I entitled to go to France? " You were before brexit. But yes, you're right. It's all a big pantomime distraction. And it's working. This thread is evidence. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Change the law perhaps? Something needs to happen to protect these poor souls from being given false hope then put at risk by ruthless people traffickers/ criminal gangs that exploit them for money. They are all breaking the law by making an illegal entry to the country don’t forget. So your primary concern is there safety and welfare and to eradicate traffickers ? Problem easily solved, provide safe passage . Safe passage for who? The people (immigrants) who want to come here , you are concerned about their welfare?? What you are suggesting is to allow anyone that wants to, to simply come. Who will fund them, where will they live? It will be funded by the same people who are paying to send them to Rwanda, they will live in accommodation that is the same as that is provided in Rwanda, accept it will be in the UK . Only the people who are entitled to travel here will be allowed The taxpayers then. You know that Rwanda was never going to happen. It was the same nonsense as last year when they said they were bringing in the navy. The navy is just there to provide a safety and welcome facility not provided by the criminals. Who is entitled to come here? Am I entitled to go to France? " People seeking asylum are entitled to come here, I agree, the Rwanda idea was never going to happen, it was just there to appease the racists | |||
"People on here are doing am excellent job of demonstrating how effective the government pantomime is for distracting them and blaming immigrants for everything. Good work. I’ve not seen anyone here “blaming immigrants for everything “. Why do you suggest that? Another excellent example. Thank you." You either like to imagine things to suit your narrative or you just enjoy trying to wind people up? | |||
"People on here are doing am excellent job of demonstrating how effective the government pantomime is for distracting them and blaming immigrants for everything. Good work. I’ve not seen anyone here “blaming immigrants for everything “. Why do you suggest that? Another excellent example. Thank you. You either like to imagine things to suit your narrative or you just enjoy trying to wind people up? " We have a very confused chap who is blaming immigrants for the increase in NI | |||
"People on here are doing am excellent job of demonstrating how effective the government pantomime is for distracting them and blaming immigrants for everything. Good work. I’ve not seen anyone here “blaming immigrants for everything “. Why do you suggest that? Another excellent example. Thank you. You either like to imagine things to suit your narrative or you just enjoy trying to wind people up? " I have no narrative. This whole section of the forum is just here to poke fun and people who think that Brexit is a good idea, or that immigrants are the problem etc etc. People are allowed to believe any fairytales they like. But why post then on here if you don't like being made fun of? I'm not out to be deliberately mean. But people have the most ridiculous hatstand opinions here that you just don't come across in real life. | |||
"People on here are doing am excellent job of demonstrating how effective the government pantomime is for distracting them and blaming immigrants for everything. Good work. I’ve not seen anyone here “blaming immigrants for everything “. Why do you suggest that? Another excellent example. Thank you. You either like to imagine things to suit your narrative or you just enjoy trying to wind people up? We have a very confused chap who is blaming immigrants for the increase in NI" I think you are confusing me with someone who gives a shit And you are also confused how the government pays and with who's money. | |||
"People on here are doing am excellent job of demonstrating how effective the government pantomime is for distracting them and blaming immigrants for everything. Good work. I’ve not seen anyone here “blaming immigrants for everything “. Why do you suggest that? Another excellent example. Thank you. You either like to imagine things to suit your narrative or you just enjoy trying to wind people up? I have no narrative. This whole section of the forum is just here to poke fun and people who think that Brexit is a good idea, or that immigrants are the problem etc etc. People are allowed to believe any fairytales they like. But why post then on here if you don't like being made fun of? I'm not out to be deliberately mean. But people have the most ridiculous hatstand opinions here that you just don't come across in real life." Ah, so you were making fun of me. Nice one, well done. Very big of you. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Many of these migrants are fleeing from torture and certain death in their own country. I don't think a flight to Rwanda is going to phase them. " What about the large number of males unaccompanied by women or children from countries that there isn't conflict in, or have a stable government. The only people I see who have a legit claim to come to UK are those afghans who worked for nato, now that is a true case of fleeing torture and murder at the hands of a mad dog government | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, " Yeah, too right they should. What have any of those Jonny Foreigners done for me, fuck all. Well, hang on, now you mention it. Fitted our new kitchen, some Jonny Foreigner Polish fella, nice man too, on time, clean, punctual and polite. OK let him in, he can stay. Oh, the Romanian lads who worked for a landscaping team, lovely lads, really funny, nothing too much trouble. OK, they can stay. Some foreign type ladies who came to do a final clean on a property renovation, brilliant job, no drama. OK they can stay as well. But what about those lazy foreign bastards that won't pick our veg anymore, surely you can't expect a Britisher to do this sort of job. And God help those Foreigners if they complain about me working in their country in a well paid job, how on earth would they cope without me. Probably extremely well. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Many of these migrants are fleeing from torture and certain death in their own country. I don't think a flight to Rwanda is going to phase them. What about the large number of males unaccompanied by women or children from countries that there isn't conflict in, or have a stable government. The only people I see who have a legit claim to come to UK are those afghans who worked for nato, now that is a true case of fleeing torture and murder at the hands of a mad dog government " not Ukrainians then ? How about Iraqis? There are asylum seekers and economic migrants. The two should be kept in mind, but separate, when debating this. Question I don't know the answer to is how many ppl in the boats are not requesting asylum. Or are they make asylum seekers who are taking the risk on behalf of their familiea and will help a safer transit once their request has been granted. | |||
"People on here are doing am excellent job of demonstrating how effective the government pantomime is for distracting them and blaming immigrants for everything. Good work. I’ve not seen anyone here “blaming immigrants for everything “. Why do you suggest that? Another excellent example. Thank you. You either like to imagine things to suit your narrative or you just enjoy trying to wind people up? I have no narrative. This whole section of the forum is just here to poke fun and people who think that Brexit is a good idea, or that immigrants are the problem etc etc. People are allowed to believe any fairytales they like. But why post then on here if you don't like being made fun of? I'm not out to be deliberately mean. But people have the most ridiculous hatstand opinions here that you just don't come across in real life. Ah, so you were making fun of me. Nice one, well done. Very big of you." Nope. Making fun of silly posts. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Yeah, too right they should. What have any of those Jonny Foreigners done for me, fuck all. Well, hang on, now you mention it. Fitted our new kitchen, some Jonny Foreigner Polish fella, nice man too, on time, clean, punctual and polite. OK let him in, he can stay. Oh, the Romanian lads who worked for a landscaping team, lovely lads, really funny, nothing too much trouble. OK, they can stay. Some foreign type ladies who came to do a final clean on a property renovation, brilliant job, no drama. OK they can stay as well. But what about those lazy foreign bastards that won't pick our veg anymore, surely you can't expect a Britisher to do this sort of job. And God help those Foreigners if they complain about me working in their country in a well paid job, how on earth would they cope without me. Probably extremely well. "You have gone of on a tangent,it's about those that come illegally,on dinghies etc no war in France . Even the EU border chief has quit as he can't do the job he was paid to. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Yeah, too right they should. What have any of those Jonny Foreigners done for me, fuck all. Well, hang on, now you mention it. Fitted our new kitchen, some Jonny Foreigner Polish fella, nice man too, on time, clean, punctual and polite. OK let him in, he can stay. Oh, the Romanian lads who worked for a landscaping team, lovely lads, really funny, nothing too much trouble. OK, they can stay. Some foreign type ladies who came to do a final clean on a property renovation, brilliant job, no drama. OK they can stay as well. But what about those lazy foreign bastards that won't pick our veg anymore, surely you can't expect a Britisher to do this sort of job. And God help those Foreigners if they complain about me working in their country in a well paid job, how on earth would they cope without me. Probably extremely well.
You have gone of on a tangent,it's about those that come illegally,on dinghies etc no war in France . Even the EU border chief has quit as he can't do the job he was paid to."No one comes in illegally. It's legal to come and apply to be resident. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Yeah, too right they should. What have any of those Jonny Foreigners done for me, fuck all. Well, hang on, now you mention it. Fitted our new kitchen, some Jonny Foreigner Polish fella, nice man too, on time, clean, punctual and polite. OK let him in, he can stay. Oh, the Romanian lads who worked for a landscaping team, lovely lads, really funny, nothing too much trouble. OK, they can stay. Some foreign type ladies who came to do a final clean on a property renovation, brilliant job, no drama. OK they can stay as well. But what about those lazy foreign bastards that won't pick our veg anymore, surely you can't expect a Britisher to do this sort of job. And God help those Foreigners if they complain about me working in their country in a well paid job, how on earth would they cope without me. Probably extremely well.
You have gone of on a tangent,it's about those that come illegally,on dinghies etc no war in France . Even the EU border chief has quit as he can't do the job he was paid to.
No one comes in illegally. It's legal to come and apply to be resident. "No need to throw documents and mobile phones in the sea then,now pull the other one it has bells on it . | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Many of these migrants are fleeing from torture and certain death in their own country. I don't think a flight to Rwanda is going to phase them. What about the large number of males unaccompanied by women or children from countries that there isn't conflict in, or have a stable government. The only people I see who have a legit claim to come to UK are those afghans who worked for nato, now that is a true case of fleeing torture and murder at the hands of a mad dog government not Ukrainians then ? How about Iraqis? There are asylum seekers and economic migrants. The two should be kept in mind, but separate, when debating this. Question I don't know the answer to is how many ppl in the boats are not requesting asylum. Or are they make asylum seekers who are taking the risk on behalf of their familiea and will help a safer transit once their request has been granted. " If the Iraqis worked for uk/nato forces then yes, if the Ukraine refugees have families here then yes, but Ukraine males of military age no, go back and fight same for Syrian males of military age | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Yeah, too right they should. What have any of those Jonny Foreigners done for me, fuck all. Well, hang on, now you mention it. Fitted our new kitchen, some Jonny Foreigner Polish fella, nice man too, on time, clean, punctual and polite. OK let him in, he can stay. Oh, the Romanian lads who worked for a landscaping team, lovely lads, really funny, nothing too much trouble. OK, they can stay. Some foreign type ladies who came to do a final clean on a property renovation, brilliant job, no drama. OK they can stay as well. But what about those lazy foreign bastards that won't pick our veg anymore, surely you can't expect a Britisher to do this sort of job. And God help those Foreigners if they complain about me working in their country in a well paid job, how on earth would they cope without me. Probably extremely well.
You have gone of on a tangent,it's about those that come illegally,on dinghies etc no war in France . Even the EU border chief has quit as he can't do the job he was paid to.
No one comes in illegally. It's legal to come and apply to be resident.
No need to throw documents and mobile phones in the sea then,now pull the other one it has bells on it ."I like your confusing posts. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Yeah, too right they should. What have any of those Jonny Foreigners done for me, fuck all. Well, hang on, now you mention it. Fitted our new kitchen, some Jonny Foreigner Polish fella, nice man too, on time, clean, punctual and polite. OK let him in, he can stay. Oh, the Romanian lads who worked for a landscaping team, lovely lads, really funny, nothing too much trouble. OK, they can stay. Some foreign type ladies who came to do a final clean on a property renovation, brilliant job, no drama. OK they can stay as well. But what about those lazy foreign bastards that won't pick our veg anymore, surely you can't expect a Britisher to do this sort of job. And God help those Foreigners if they complain about me working in their country in a well paid job, how on earth would they cope without me. Probably extremely well.
You have gone of on a tangent,it's about those that come illegally,on dinghies etc no war in France . Even the EU border chief has quit as he can't do the job he was paid to."he quite as the EU (or the countries within) pushed back on asylum seekers. Which is illegal. At least that's my understanding. Imagine quitting because your area broke the law. Crazy Europeans. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Many of these migrants are fleeing from torture and certain death in their own country. I don't think a flight to Rwanda is going to phase them. What about the large number of males unaccompanied by women or children from countries that there isn't conflict in, or have a stable government. The only people I see who have a legit claim to come to UK are those afghans who worked for nato, now that is a true case of fleeing torture and murder at the hands of a mad dog government not Ukrainians then ? How about Iraqis? There are asylum seekers and economic migrants. The two should be kept in mind, but separate, when debating this. Question I don't know the answer to is how many ppl in the boats are not requesting asylum. Or are they make asylum seekers who are taking the risk on behalf of their familiea and will help a safer transit once their request has been granted. If the Iraqis worked for uk/nato forces then yes, if the Ukraine refugees have families here then yes, but Ukraine males of military age no, go back and fight same for Syrian males of military age" those goalposts moved quicky! | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Yeah, too right they should. What have any of those Jonny Foreigners done for me, fuck all. Well, hang on, now you mention it. Fitted our new kitchen, some Jonny Foreigner Polish fella, nice man too, on time, clean, punctual and polite. OK let him in, he can stay. Oh, the Romanian lads who worked for a landscaping team, lovely lads, really funny, nothing too much trouble. OK, they can stay. Some foreign type ladies who came to do a final clean on a property renovation, brilliant job, no drama. OK they can stay as well. But what about those lazy foreign bastards that won't pick our veg anymore, surely you can't expect a Britisher to do this sort of job. And God help those Foreigners if they complain about me working in their country in a well paid job, how on earth would they cope without me. Probably extremely well.
You have gone of on a tangent,it's about those that come illegally,on dinghies etc no war in France . Even the EU border chief has quit as he can't do the job he was paid to."Sorry to go off on a tangent, I'm not as clever or worldly wise as you and didn't realise you had to keep on course and not divert on a tangent. Or could it have been a tongue in cheek remark that flew, at a tangent or in another direction, straight over your head. | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Yeah, too right they should. What have any of those Jonny Foreigners done for me, fuck all. Well, hang on, now you mention it. Fitted our new kitchen, some Jonny Foreigner Polish fella, nice man too, on time, clean, punctual and polite. OK let him in, he can stay. Oh, the Romanian lads who worked for a landscaping team, lovely lads, really funny, nothing too much trouble. OK, they can stay. Some foreign type ladies who came to do a final clean on a property renovation, brilliant job, no drama. OK they can stay as well. But what about those lazy foreign bastards that won't pick our veg anymore, surely you can't expect a Britisher to do this sort of job. And God help those Foreigners if they complain about me working in their country in a well paid job, how on earth would they cope without me. Probably extremely well.
You have gone of on a tangent,it's about those that come illegally,on dinghies etc no war in France . Even the EU border chief has quit as he can't do the job he was paid to.
Sorry to go off on a tangent, I'm not as clever or worldly wise as you and didn't realise you had to keep on course and not divert on a tangent.
Or could it have been a tongue in cheek remark that flew, at a tangent or in another direction, straight over your head. "This whole thread is a tangent. Which ironically supports the OP! | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Many of these migrants are fleeing from torture and certain death in their own country. I don't think a flight to Rwanda is going to phase them. What about the large number of males unaccompanied by women or children from countries that there isn't conflict in, or have a stable government. The only people I see who have a legit claim to come to UK are those afghans who worked for nato, now that is a true case of fleeing torture and murder at the hands of a mad dog government " You need to have a read at the legal requirements needed to apply for asylum, it might help with your confusion | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Yeah, too right they should. What have any of those Jonny Foreigners done for me, fuck all. Well, hang on, now you mention it. Fitted our new kitchen, some Jonny Foreigner Polish fella, nice man too, on time, clean, punctual and polite. OK let him in, he can stay. Oh, the Romanian lads who worked for a landscaping team, lovely lads, really funny, nothing too much trouble. OK, they can stay. Some foreign type ladies who came to do a final clean on a property renovation, brilliant job, no drama. OK they can stay as well. But what about those lazy foreign bastards that won't pick our veg anymore, surely you can't expect a Britisher to do this sort of job. And God help those Foreigners if they complain about me working in their country in a well paid job, how on earth would they cope without me. Probably extremely well.
You have gone of on a tangent,it's about those that come illegally,on dinghies etc no war in France . Even the EU border chief has quit as he can't do the job he was paid to.
No one comes in illegally. It's legal to come and apply to be resident.
No need to throw documents and mobile phones in the sea then,now pull the other one it has bells on it ."Your nearly as confused as Farage  | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, Yeah, too right they should. What have any of those Jonny Foreigners done for me, fuck all. Well, hang on, now you mention it. Fitted our new kitchen, some Jonny Foreigner Polish fella, nice man too, on time, clean, punctual and polite. OK let him in, he can stay. Oh, the Romanian lads who worked for a landscaping team, lovely lads, really funny, nothing too much trouble. OK, they can stay. Some foreign type ladies who came to do a final clean on a property renovation, brilliant job, no drama. OK they can stay as well. But what about those lazy foreign bastards that won't pick our veg anymore, surely you can't expect a Britisher to do this sort of job. And God help those Foreigners if they complain about me working in their country in a well paid job, how on earth would they cope without me. Probably extremely well.
You have gone of on a tangent,it's about those that come illegally,on dinghies etc no war in France . Even the EU border chief has quit as he can't do the job he was paid to."Angry and confused, | |||
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"Oh and for the muppets shouting about the cost: A) The cost for flying them to Rwanda and paying Rwanda to house and process is HIGHER. It will cost us more! B) Yes the cost of hotels is stupid and instead the Govt could compulsorily purchase some land and build a housing/processing centre. It would create construction/fitting out employment to begin with and then require staff, cleaners etc. So actually an economic benefit while not breaking any laws or making the UK increasingly a pariah state!" True, but let’s be honest, it’s not about the cost to these people, they just don’t want ‘them’ here | |||
"Oh and for the muppets shouting about the cost: A) The cost for flying them to Rwanda and paying Rwanda to house and process is HIGHER. It will cost us more! B) Yes the cost of hotels is stupid and instead the Govt could compulsorily purchase some land and build a housing/processing centre. It would create construction/fitting out employment to begin with and then require staff, cleaners etc. So actually an economic benefit while not breaking any laws or making the UK increasingly a pariah state!" Flying to Rwanda dirt cheap, instead why not build social housing for those here that need them, same result employment etc, charity start's at home, but that don't go well with the woke does it. | |||
"Oh and for the muppets shouting about the cost: A) The cost for flying them to Rwanda and paying Rwanda to house and process is HIGHER. It will cost us more! B) Yes the cost of hotels is stupid and instead the Govt could compulsorily purchase some land and build a housing/processing centre. It would create construction/fitting out employment to begin with and then require staff, cleaners etc. So actually an economic benefit while not breaking any laws or making the UK increasingly a pariah state! Flying to Rwanda dirt cheap, instead why not build social housing for those here that need them, same result employment etc, charity start's at home, but that don't go well with the woke does it. " Here we go, blaming the anti racists again, why are we sending money to the Ukraine? | |||
"The next ‘Drama’ will be the legal challenges against sending immigrants to Rwanda which will be predictably blamed on ‘lefty woke’ lawyers No drama needed get Manston airport working, as they land in Kent put them on a bus straight to awaiting planes at Manston fly them straight to Rwanda. Job done only take a few planes to get the message across. Is that legal? Sounds like your just making shit up unfortunately your probably right but doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. So you also think the government should break the law, yep if its for the greater good defiantly Amazing, what is your version of the ‘greater good’ ? It would be cheaper and also illegal just to shoot the immigrants " now there's a thought boris | |||
"People on here are doing am excellent job of demonstrating how effective the government pantomime is for distracting them and blaming immigrants for everything. Good work. " I don't blame them for anything just don't like them as most are economic we have enough wan??ers here as it is with importing more. | |||
"Oh and for the muppets shouting about the cost: A) The cost for flying them to Rwanda and paying Rwanda to house and process is HIGHER. It will cost us more! B) Yes the cost of hotels is stupid and instead the Govt could compulsorily purchase some land and build a housing/processing centre. It would create construction/fitting out employment to begin with and then require staff, cleaners etc. So actually an economic benefit while not breaking any laws or making the UK increasingly a pariah state! Flying to Rwanda dirt cheap, instead why not build social housing for those here that need them, same result employment etc, charity start's at home, but that don't go well with the woke does it. " Lolz. It's not an either or! The government won't help British people regardless. But you're really demonstrating how people fall for this kind of distraction. Well done. Why are you suggesting that non racist people don't want to build social housing? Weird. | |||
"Oh and for the muppets shouting about the cost: A) The cost for flying them to Rwanda and paying Rwanda to house and process is HIGHER. It will cost us more! B) Yes the cost of hotels is stupid and instead the Govt could compulsorily purchase some land and build a housing/processing centre. It would create construction/fitting out employment to begin with and then require staff, cleaners etc. So actually an economic benefit while not breaking any laws or making the UK increasingly a pariah state! True, but let’s be honest, it’s not about the cost to these people, they just don’t want ‘them’ here " correct finally your getting it cost means nothing could be 4 times as much than being here still would be happy to pay it to keep them out enjoy. | |||
"Oh and for the muppets shouting about the cost: A) The cost for flying them to Rwanda and paying Rwanda to house and process is HIGHER. It will cost us more! B) Yes the cost of hotels is stupid and instead the Govt could compulsorily purchase some land and build a housing/processing centre. It would create construction/fitting out employment to begin with and then require staff, cleaners etc. So actually an economic benefit while not breaking any laws or making the UK increasingly a pariah state! True, but let’s be honest, it’s not about the cost to these people, they just don’t want ‘them’ here correct finally your getting it cost means nothing could be 4 times as much than being here still would be happy to pay it to keep them out enjoy. " Ah, it must boil your piss that you voted for Brexit to stop this abs it’s made it ‘worse’ | |||
"People on here are doing am excellent job of demonstrating how effective the government pantomime is for distracting them and blaming immigrants for everything. Good work. I don't blame them for anything just don't like them as most are economic we have enough wan??ers here as it is with importing more. " Most? 75% are granted asylum, why are you so angry and confused? | |||
"No one comes in illegally." The immigrants coming from France are paying for their passage, which makes it a commercial journey. All commercial vessels need to notify customs in advance if they have any passengers that are going to disembark. So yes, those people coming from France in small boats are acting illegally. "It's legal to come and apply to be resident. " No it isn't. Non-UK citizens cannot apply for residence from within the UK. They must be outside the UK to apply. Applying for asylum is a different thing and you certainly can do that from within the country. | |||
"No one comes in illegally. The immigrants coming from France are paying for their passage, which makes it a commercial journey. All commercial vessels need to notify customs in advance if they have any passengers that are going to disembark. So yes, those people coming from France in small boats are acting illegally. It's legal to come and apply to be resident. No it isn't. Non-UK citizens cannot apply for residence from within the UK. They must be outside the UK to apply. Applying for asylum is a different thing and you certainly can do that from within the country." A bit difficult to prove they are ‘paying for their passage ‘ | |||
"Oh and for the muppets shouting about the cost: A) The cost for flying them to Rwanda and paying Rwanda to house and process is HIGHER. It will cost us more! B) Yes the cost of hotels is stupid and instead the Govt could compulsorily purchase some land and build a housing/processing centre. It would create construction/fitting out employment to begin with and then require staff, cleaners etc. So actually an economic benefit while not breaking any laws or making the UK increasingly a pariah state! Flying to Rwanda dirt cheap, instead why not build social housing for those here that need them, same result employment etc, charity start's at home, but that don't go well with the woke does it. " the cost is c £30k per person going to Rwanda. (Still gotta pay for them over there!) Now that may be a bit less than is currently being spent today, (it's like £40k assuming it takes a year to process)... However I'd imagine most of that 30k leaves the UK. At least the 40k is supporting our own industry. The Rwanda business case is predicated on the threat of Rwanda reducing volumes. Also, happy to pay more tax I'd it goes towards social housing etc and not lining the pockets of friends of Tories. | |||
"No one comes in illegally. The immigrants coming from France are paying for their passage, which makes it a commercial journey. All commercial vessels need to notify customs in advance if they have any passengers that are going to disembark. So yes, those people coming from France in small boats are acting illegally. It's legal to come and apply to be resident. No it isn't. Non-UK citizens cannot apply for residence from within the UK. They must be outside the UK to apply. Applying for asylum is a different thing and you certainly can do that from within the country. A bit difficult to prove they are ‘paying for their passage ‘ " What, you mean they're not issued with a ticket and a receipt? Some berk will soon be saying the refugees can apply for delay-repay. | |||
"No one comes in illegally. The immigrants coming from France are paying for their passage, which makes it a commercial journey. All commercial vessels need to notify customs in advance if they have any passengers that are going to disembark. So yes, those people coming from France in small boats are acting illegally. It's legal to come and apply to be resident. No it isn't. Non-UK citizens cannot apply for residence from within the UK. They must be outside the UK to apply. Applying for asylum is a different thing and you certainly can do that from within the country." presumably the "owner" of the boat is breaking the law then, not the passengers.... | |||
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"No one comes in illegally. The immigrants coming from France are paying for their passage, which makes it a commercial journey. All commercial vessels need to notify customs in advance if they have any passengers that are going to disembark. So yes, those people coming from France in small boats are acting illegally. It's legal to come and apply to be resident. No it isn't. Non-UK citizens cannot apply for residence from within the UK. They must be outside the UK to apply. Applying for asylum is a different thing and you certainly can do that from within the country. presumably the "owner" of the boat is breaking the law then, not the passengers.... " I don’t think you’ll find anyone wearing a captain’s cap or putting their hand up as the owner. | |||
"No one comes in illegally. The immigrants coming from France are paying for their passage, which makes it a commercial journey. All commercial vessels need to notify customs in advance if they have any passengers that are going to disembark. So yes, those people coming from France in small boats are acting illegally. It's legal to come and apply to be resident. No it isn't. Non-UK citizens cannot apply for residence from within the UK. They must be outside the UK to apply. Applying for asylum is a different thing and you certainly can do that from within the country." The British courts disagree with your assessment. | |||
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"Not one idea how to deal with it looks like my trip to Manston wins then." Other than... set up places nearer the main problem areas to accept and process applications. If Rwanda saves money versus UK (does it?) Then I'd imagine other places will. Plus cuts oxygen of smugglers. Plus gives you more confidence they have come from the said conflict place. Note: not my idea. Stole this off an old labour idea. | |||
"Not one idea how to deal with it looks like my trip to Manston wins then." Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK, Employ a decent Home Secretary, don’t break the law, laugh at the idiots who voted for Brexit to stop this | |||
"Not one idea how to deal with it looks like my trip to Manston wins then. Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK, Employ a decent Home Secretary, don’t break the law, laugh at the idiots who voted for Brexit to stop this "Brexit we just dodged another bullet but that is a different subject,but I know how long it took you all just to catch up on beer gate thanks to the mail that nobody reads. | |||
"Not one idea how to deal with it looks like my trip to Manston wins then. Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK, Employ a decent Home Secretary, don’t break the law, laugh at the idiots who voted for Brexit to stop this
Brexit we just dodged another bullet but that is a different subject,but I know how long it took you all just to catch up on beer gate thanks to the mail that nobody reads."Eh? | |||
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"Who are you talking to " Anyone but mainly you. | |||
"Not one idea how to deal with it looks like my trip to Manston wins then. Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK, Employ a decent Home Secretary, don’t break the law, laugh at the idiots who voted for Brexit to stop this
Brexit we just dodged another bullet but that is a different subject,but I know how long it took you all just to catch up on beer gate thanks to the mail that nobody reads."We dodged the bullet of living in a country with a thriving economy? Amazing. Are you still waffling about the beer Starmer had? There can't be many straws left for you to grasp at. | |||
"Oh and for the muppets shouting about the cost: A) The cost for flying them to Rwanda and paying Rwanda to house and process is HIGHER. It will cost us more! B) Yes the cost of hotels is stupid and instead the Govt could compulsorily purchase some land and build a housing/processing centre. It would create construction/fitting out employment to begin with and then require staff, cleaners etc. So actually an economic benefit while not breaking any laws or making the UK increasingly a pariah state! True, but let’s be honest, it’s not about the cost to these people, they just don’t want ‘them’ here correct finally your getting it cost means nothing could be 4 times as much than being here still would be happy to pay it to keep them out enjoy. Ah, it must boil your piss that you voted for Brexit to stop this abs it’s made it ‘worse’ "only in your dreams I voted to get out of the EU some immigrants are needed just not all the useless wankers there countries don't even want as said I'm only talking about illegal or economic migrants if a true asylum seeker don't have a problem with them coming here enjoy | |||
"Oh and for the muppets shouting about the cost: A) The cost for flying them to Rwanda and paying Rwanda to house and process is HIGHER. It will cost us more! B) Yes the cost of hotels is stupid and instead the Govt could compulsorily purchase some land and build a housing/processing centre. It would create construction/fitting out employment to begin with and then require staff, cleaners etc. So actually an economic benefit while not breaking any laws or making the UK increasingly a pariah state! True, but let’s be honest, it’s not about the cost to these people, they just don’t want ‘them’ here correct finally your getting it cost means nothing could be 4 times as much than being here still would be happy to pay it to keep them out enjoy. Ah, it must boil your piss that you voted for Brexit to stop this abs it’s made it ‘worse’ only in your dreams I voted to get out of the EU some immigrants are needed just not all the useless wankers there countries don't even want as said I'm only talking about illegal or economic migrants if a true asylum seeker don't have a problem with them coming here enjoy "we should totally focus on supporting our own useless wankers rather than those who want to come here to work ... Passports matter ! | |||
"Oh and for the muppets shouting about the cost: A) The cost for flying them to Rwanda and paying Rwanda to house and process is HIGHER. It will cost us more! B) Yes the cost of hotels is stupid and instead the Govt could compulsorily purchase some land and build a housing/processing centre. It would create construction/fitting out employment to begin with and then require staff, cleaners etc. So actually an economic benefit while not breaking any laws or making the UK increasingly a pariah state! True, but let’s be honest, it’s not about the cost to these people, they just don’t want ‘them’ here correct finally your getting it cost means nothing could be 4 times as much than being here still would be happy to pay it to keep them out enjoy. Ah, it must boil your piss that you voted for Brexit to stop this abs it’s made it ‘worse’ only in your dreams I voted to get out of the EU some immigrants are needed just not all the useless wankers there countries don't even want as said I'm only talking about illegal or economic migrants if a true asylum seeker don't have a problem with them coming here enjoy "75% are granted asylum, I am not sure why you are so angry and confused, is it because Shef Wed got beat last night | |||
"Not one idea how to deal with it looks like my trip to Manston wins then. Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK, Employ a decent Home Secretary, don’t break the law, laugh at the idiots who voted for Brexit to stop this
Brexit we just dodged another bullet but that is a different subject,but I know how long it took you all just to catch up on beer gate thanks to the mail that nobody reads.
We dodged the bullet of living in a country with a thriving economy?
Amazing.
Are you still waffling about the beer Starmer had? There can't be many straws left for you to grasp at. "You are so far behind the news, try and keep up. | |||
"Not one idea how to deal with it looks like my trip to Manston wins then. Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK, Employ a decent Home Secretary, don’t break the law, laugh at the idiots who voted for Brexit to stop this
Brexit we just dodged another bullet but that is a different subject,but I know how long it took you all just to catch up on beer gate thanks to the mail that nobody reads.
We dodged the bullet of living in a country with a thriving economy?
Amazing.
Are you still waffling about the beer Starmer had? There can't be many straws left for you to grasp at.
You are so far behind the news, try and keep up. "What's happened now, did he have a cider? | |||
"Not one idea how to deal with it looks like my trip to Manston wins then. Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK, Employ a decent Home Secretary, don’t break the law, laugh at the idiots who voted for Brexit to stop this
Brexit we just dodged another bullet but that is a different subject,but I know how long it took you all just to catch up on beer gate thanks to the mail that nobody reads.
We dodged the bullet of living in a country with a thriving economy?
Amazing.
Are you still waffling about the beer Starmer had? There can't be many straws left for you to grasp at.
You are so far behind the news, try and keep up.
What's happened now, did he have a cider?"The Fail are now claiming that because he is promising to resign, he is putting unfair pressure on the police, their thick gullible readers are lapping it up | |||
"Not one idea how to deal with it looks like my trip to Manston wins then. Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK, Employ a decent Home Secretary, don’t break the law, laugh at the idiots who voted for Brexit to stop this
Brexit we just dodged another bullet but that is a different subject,but I know how long it took you all just to catch up on beer gate thanks to the mail that nobody reads.
We dodged the bullet of living in a country with a thriving economy?
Amazing.
Are you still waffling about the beer Starmer had? There can't be many straws left for you to grasp at.
You are so far behind the news, try and keep up.
What's happened now, did he have a cider?
The Fail are now claiming that because he is promising to resign, he is putting unfair pressure on the police, their thick gullible readers are lapping it up "id say you are, so you do read the mail then. | |||
"Not one idea how to deal with it looks like my trip to Manston wins then. Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK, Employ a decent Home Secretary, don’t break the law, laugh at the idiots who voted for Brexit to stop this
Brexit we just dodged another bullet but that is a different subject,but I know how long it took you all just to catch up on beer gate thanks to the mail that nobody reads.
We dodged the bullet of living in a country with a thriving economy?
Amazing.
Are you still waffling about the beer Starmer had? There can't be many straws left for you to grasp at.
You are so far behind the news, try and keep up.
What's happened now, did he have a cider?
The Fail are now claiming that because he is promising to resign, he is putting unfair pressure on the police, their thick gullible readers are lapping it up "Lolz Daily mail readers "Boo Starmer he should resign if he's fined, even though Boris shouldn't". Starmer "I'll resign if I am fined" Daily Mail readers "boooo Starmer for doing what we wanted him to do". Amazing. Still. Daily Mail readers do provide excellent comedy. This forum wouldn't be as fun without this rhubarb. | |||
"Not one idea how to deal with it looks like my trip to Manston wins then. Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK, Employ a decent Home Secretary, don’t break the law, laugh at the idiots who voted for Brexit to stop this
Brexit we just dodged another bullet but that is a different subject,but I know how long it took you all just to catch up on beer gate thanks to the mail that nobody reads.
We dodged the bullet of living in a country with a thriving economy?
Amazing.
Are you still waffling about the beer Starmer had? There can't be many straws left for you to grasp at.
You are so far behind the news, try and keep up.
What's happened now, did he have a cider?
The Fail are now claiming that because he is promising to resign, he is putting unfair pressure on the police, their thick gullible readers are lapping it up
id say you are, so you do read the mail then."Nah, I just see people mocking it on Twitter, it is the comedy gift that keeps on giving, | |||
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"A bit difficult to prove they are ‘paying for their passage ‘ " Not really, they'll tell you that themselves. Everyone agrees that evil people traffickers are charging thousands per person for these boats. Even if they weren't, the rule for pleasure craft is that you have to fly the 'Q' flag if there are non-British citizens aboard, and report to customs on arrival. | |||
"The British courts disagree with your assessment." They do? I love an opportunity to learn. Can you please give me a link? | |||
"Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK" There already is safe passage. Planes fly regularly from Paris, there are ferries making even more regular journeys, and you can even get a train through the tunnel. All of these options are available, and cheaper than the charges made by people traffickers. Asylum applications can be made in the UK on arrival. | |||
"The British courts disagree with your assessment. They do? I love an opportunity to learn. Can you please give me a link?" I can't post links. It's against forum rules. But if you're interested, you can Google the following cases. Bani v The Crown R v Kakaei Analysis of the cases are skewed either way depending what you read. But you should be able to find the actual case summaries. | |||
"Provide them with Safe passage , process in the UK There already is safe passage. Planes fly regularly from Paris, there are ferries making even more regular journeys, and you can even get a train through the tunnel. All of these options are available, and cheaper than the charges made by people traffickers. Asylum applications can be made in the UK on arrival." True, no need to go to Rwanda | |||
"A bit difficult to prove they are ‘paying for their passage ‘ Not really, they'll tell you that themselves. Everyone agrees that evil people traffickers are charging thousands per person for these boats. Even if they weren't, the rule for pleasure craft is that you have to fly the 'Q' flag if there are non-British citizens aboard, and report to customs on arrival." And what is the punishment for this? I am sure once they have received there fine for this ‘crime’ they can continue to legally claim asylum . | |||
"A bit difficult to prove they are ‘paying for their passage ‘ Not really, they'll tell you that themselves. Everyone agrees that evil people traffickers are charging thousands per person for these boats. Even if they weren't, the rule for pleasure craft is that you have to fly the 'Q' flag if there are non-British citizens aboard, and report to customs on arrival. And what is the punishment for this? I am sure once they have received there fine for this ‘crime’ they can continue to legally claim asylum . " To clarify , legally apply for asylum | |||
"A bit difficult to prove they are ‘paying for their passage ‘ Not really, they'll tell you that themselves. Everyone agrees that evil people traffickers are charging thousands per person for these boats. Even if they weren't, the rule for pleasure craft is that you have to fly the 'Q' flag if there are non-British citizens aboard, and report to customs on arrival." "And what is the punishment for this? I am sure once they have received there fine for this ‘crime’ they can continue to legally claim asylum . " It's only a small fine. The point I was addressing is that someone claimed that no one arrived illegally. I was saying that arriving by a small boat without following the rules is definitely illegal. Yes, they can still claim asylum, legally, after arriving, even if they do arrive illegally. | |||
"The British courts disagree with your assessment." "They do?" "if you're interested, you can Google the following cases. Bani v The Crown R v Kakaei" Interesting reading, thanks for those references. R v Kakaei is a case under the Immigration Act 1971, section 25, for "Assisting Unlawful Immigration". Kakaei was thought to be the organiser of a boat full of immigrants. He was convicted. Kakaei then appealed on the grounds that the judge had directed the jury that the offence was committed the moment that the boat moved into UK waters. Kakaei could have claimed that he was intending to deliver the immigrants to a customs port, and the judge's misdirection deprived him of that defence. R v Bani is a legally identical case that was appealed after the Kakaei appeal ruling. The appeal ruling makes it clear that anyone "assisting unlawful immigration", contrary to section 25 of the Immigration Act 1971, cannot be found guilty solely on the basis that they entered UK waters. It is yet to be seen whether the same logic applies to boat passengers who would be facing a section 24 charge, which has different defences. | |||
"75% of asylum seekers processed are found to be genuine and “deserving of asylum”." Can you post a source for that figure? The figures on the government websites don't support it. | |||
"75% of asylum seekers processed are found to be genuine and “deserving of asylum”. Can you post a source for that figure? The figures on the government websites don't support it." "Almost three quarters (72%) of the initial decisions in 2021 were grants (of asylum, humanitarian protection or alternative forms of leave), which is substantially higher than the previous years." https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-december-2021/how-many-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to. You may have older numbers if yours are lower as there has been a huge decrease in third country refusuals. The reason for this big drop in refusuals. Brexit. My quick maths puts grants up by 40pc because of this. Eg we have taken on c3,000 more refugees because of brexit. | |||
"75% of asylum seekers processed are found to be genuine and “deserving of asylum”." "Can you post a source for that figure? The figures on the government websites don't support it." "https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-december-2021/how-many-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to." Thanks for that. I'd read the same document, but missed that sentence. 
The problem is that the 72% includes all asylum seekers. The ones that arrive by boat from France are only 11% of the total, so it could be that 100% of boat arrivals are rejected, or perhaps they are all accepted. We can't tell from the official government data. | |||
"75% of asylum seekers processed are found to be genuine and “deserving of asylum”. Can you post a source for that figure? The figures on the government websites don't support it. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-december-2021/how-many-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to. Thanks for that. I'd read the same document, but missed that sentence.
The problem is that the 72% includes all asylum seekers. The ones that arrive by boat from France are only 11% of the total, so it could be that 100% of boat arrivals are rejected, or perhaps they are all accepted. We can't tell from the official government data."where did the 10pc come from? It was 8,500 in 2021 according to the guardian. Do you know how the others get in To claim asylum ? | |||
"75% of asylum seekers processed are found to be genuine and “deserving of asylum”. Can you post a source for that figure? The figures on the government websites don't support it. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-december-2021/how-many-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to. Thanks for that. I'd read the same document, but missed that sentence.
The problem is that the 72% includes all asylum seekers. The ones that arrive by boat from France are only 11% of the total, so it could be that 100% of boat arrivals are rejected, or perhaps they are all accepted. We can't tell from the official government data."Fair play for reading through. | |||
"The problem is that the 72% includes all asylum seekers. The ones that arrive by boat from France are only 11% of the total..." "where did the 10pc come from? It was 8,500 in 2021 according to the guardian." I can't find my original source for the 11% figure, but all the links I can find for that number are from 2019, so it looks like my number was outdated. The link you posted above states that the UK offered protection to 14,734 people in 2021, of which 81% were asylum seekers. That's about 12,000 asylum cases. The same document also says that, in the case of small boat arrivals, "almost all claim asylum". The Irregular Migration Statistics for 2021 (https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/irregular-migration-to-the-uk-year-ending-december-2021/irregular-migration-to-the-uk-year-ending-december-2021) say that there were 28,526 people detected arriving on small boats in 2021. If all of those arrivals claimed asylum, that's more than double the number actually granted asylum. Something doesn't add up somewhere. | |||
"The problem is that the 72% includes all asylum seekers. The ones that arrive by boat from France are only 11% of the total... where did the 10pc come from? It was 8,500 in 2021 according to the guardian. I can't find my original source for the 11% figure, but all the links I can find for that number are from 2019, so it looks like my number was outdated. The link you posted above states that the UK offered protection to 14,734 people in 2021, of which 81% were asylum seekers. That's about 12,000 asylum cases. The same document also says that, in the case of small boat arrivals, "almost all claim asylum". The Irregular Migration Statistics for 2021 (https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/irregular-migration-to-the-uk-year-ending-december-2021/irregular-migration-to-the-uk-year-ending-december-2021) say that there were 28,526 people detected arriving on small boats in 2021. If all of those arrivals claimed asylum, that's more than double the number actually granted asylum. Something doesn't add up somewhere." I'd guess it's timing. Those arriving this year will likely have their decision next year. I'm wondering if the huge uptick is from not being able to return ppl and asylum seekers now knowing this. As you said, we don't know if the boat people have more rejections than the 70pc. What if they were the majority of returns in the past... And now everyone knows that recourse has been taken away? I'm spit balling, but would have a wry smile if brexit means not only are there less rejections ... But a huge number more applications !!! Which if course have costs etc... | |||
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"And it continues… changing the forward to the ministerial code ..." The foreword to the Ministerial Code gets entirely re-written every time the code is updated. The last one was all about getting Brexit done, and the new one is about tackling the cost of living crisis. | |||
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"Most of its not a drama social media make it a drama." agreed. Although I think SM waters the seeds planted by savy policial folk What's that? Crowns on pint glasses? | |||
