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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do, "
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum! |
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do,
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!"
They have completely turned this situation on it’s head, putting the party before themselves |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do,
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!
They have completely turned this situation on it’s head, putting the party before themselves "
If, IF Starmer and Rayner get fined and them resign, then it will be fascinating to see how:
A) Right wing press spin it so no pressure on Johnson (there is only a false equivalence when it suits them)
B) How the usual suspects on here spin it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do,
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!
They have completely turned this situation on it’s head, putting the party before themselves
If, IF Starmer and Rayner get fined and them resign, then it will be fascinating to see how:
A) Right wing press spin it so no pressure on Johnson (there is only a false equivalence when it suits them)
B) How the usual suspects on here spin it. "
It will be total silence and their focus will be shifted towards immigrants in boats and it blaming the EU for the NI protocol , |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do,
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!
They have completely turned this situation on it’s head, putting the party before themselves "
 he fucked up with what he said and didn't think he would be caught out if he kept the focus on boris.He only has himself to blame. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do,
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!
They have completely turned this situation on it’s head, putting the party before themselves he fucked up with what he said and didn't think he would be caught out if he kept the focus on boris.He only has himself to blame."
Honesty and integrity, putting the party before himself, he has made Boris and his government look like fools, btw, why are you such a hypocrite? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do,
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!
They have completely turned this situation on it’s head, putting the party before themselves
If, IF Starmer and Rayner get fined and them resign, then it will be fascinating to see how:
A) Right wing press spin it so no pressure on Johnson (there is only a false equivalence when it suits them)
B) How the usual suspects on here spin it. "
"No one said you had to resign after a fine. However KSK made it a thing, so should. Hypocrisy is worse than lying and law breaking. Unless that hypocrisy is telling people to stay home to help stop the spread while going to parties. That's acceptable. Because it's blue" |
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do,
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!
They have completely turned this situation on it’s head, putting the party before themselves
If, IF Starmer and Rayner get fined and them resign, then it will be fascinating to see how:
A) Right wing press spin it so no pressure on Johnson (there is only a false equivalence when it suits them)
B) How the usual suspects on here spin it. "
Well it's not the fine that is the reason that he would resign, it would just be his position would be Untenable and hypocritical if he doesn't after calling for it.
Hoisted by his own petard.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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It is amazing seeing some people gunning for Starmer, who has not been fined. Yet they seem silent about Johnson, who has been fined + has presided over a downing st that got 50+ fines at last count. + there are apparently more fines incoming for downing st + likely Johnson too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do,
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!
They have completely turned this situation on it’s head, putting the party before themselves
If, IF Starmer and Rayner get fined and them resign, then it will be fascinating to see how:
A) Right wing press spin it so no pressure on Johnson (there is only a false equivalence when it suits them)
B) How the usual suspects on here spin it.
Well it's not the fine that is the reason that he would resign, it would just be his position would be Untenable and hypocritical if he doesn't after calling for it.
Hoisted by his own petard...."
How do you know he wouldn’t have resigned anyway? You do realise it is hypocritical to come on national TV every night and tell the nation to follow the covid rules whilst breaking them yourself? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is amazing seeing some people gunning for Starmer, who has not been fined. Yet they seem silent about Johnson, who has been fined + has presided over a downing st that got 50+ fines at last count. + there are apparently more fines incoming for downing st + likely Johnson too."
They are hypocrites,  |
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I'm not calling for him to resign and I don't think it's an resignation matter for anyone as personally it isn't an criminal offence anx the rules were absurd....BUT that isn't why kier would resign if he gets found to break the rules, it's the hypocrisy that he would get found to be and a man whose whole being is integrity and honorable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm not calling for him to resign and I don't think it's an resignation matter for anyone as personally it isn't an criminal offence anx the rules were absurd....BUT that isn't why kier would resign if he gets found to break the rules, it's the hypocrisy that he would get found to be and a man whose whole being is integrity and honorable."
So, by resigning he is proving his honesty and integrity ? |
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity..."
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does "
so you seem to think it doesn't matter what he does as he has no integrity either way? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does "
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any |
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"I'm not calling for him to resign and I don't think it's an resignation matter for anyone as personally it isn't an criminal offence anx the rules were absurd....BUT that isn't why kier would resign if he gets found to break the rules, it's the hypocrisy that he would get found to be and a man whose whole being is integrity and honorable.
So, by resigning he is proving his honesty and integrity ? "
Well if he didn't after crowing about it for months for the PM and Rishi then he would lack it
Him resigning does nothing to Boris or Rishi... |
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any "
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm not calling for him to resign and I don't think it's an resignation matter for anyone as personally it isn't an criminal offence anx the rules were absurd....BUT that isn't why kier would resign if he gets found to break the rules, it's the hypocrisy that he would get found to be and a man whose whole being is integrity and honorable.
So, by resigning he is proving his honesty and integrity ?
Well if he didn't after crowing about it for months for the PM and Rishi then he would lack it
Him resigning does nothing to Boris or Rishi... "
Oh Johnson has no integrity or morals at all. He won't resign just because Starmer did.
But...
Johnson will look an even bigger shit if Starmer goes for a far smaller issue while Johnson stays after being party king of downing st. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation "
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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A lot of people now dislike Johnson + think he's a liar. Even more will dislike + distrust him if Starmer goes while Johnson stays in post, likely racking up more fines + more lies as time goes on... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It would be almost funny if Starmer brought Johnson down by resigning himself.
Except it wouldn't.... it wouldn't weaken Boris at all"
Boris is already weak, he is a dead man walking, |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory "
Who is saying he is pretending????? im saying he set his moral bar and now it looks like he wont meet it,nobody to blame except himself. |
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"Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!"
which is exactly why the con-servethemselves were unelectable last thursday  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory Who is saying he is pretending????? im saying he set his moral bar and now it looks like he wont meet it,nobody to blame except himself."
Don’t we all set our own ‘moral bar’ ? If he gets fined then yes, it’s his own fault and he will have the integrity to resign, that is the honourable thing to do. You think it’s ok for our PM to tell the nation to stick to the rules whilst he broke them himself and not resign , so you obviously have very low moral standards |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory Who is saying he is pretending????? im saying he set his moral bar and now it looks like he wont meet it,nobody to blame except himself."
Good on him for having morals. Let’s see what happens next.
The thing is you need to check the dates when SKS started saying Johnson should resign. Weirdly it was after be got early sight of the interim Sue Grey report. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory Who is saying he is pretending????? im saying he set his moral bar and now it looks like he wont meet it,nobody to blame except himself.
Don’t we all set our own ‘moral bar’ ? If he gets fined then yes, it’s his own fault and he will have the integrity to resign, that is the honourable thing to do. You think it’s ok for our PM to tell the nation to stick to the rules whilst he broke them himself and not resign , so you obviously have very low moral standards "
I would hazzard a guess that a lot of people would think anyone who participates in a swingers site has low moral standards, personally i dont and thats why you have to live by your own standards not others. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory Who is saying he is pretending????? im saying he set his moral bar and now it looks like he wont meet it,nobody to blame except himself.
Don’t we all set our own ‘moral bar’ ? If he gets fined then yes, it’s his own fault and he will have the integrity to resign, that is the honourable thing to do. You think it’s ok for our PM to tell the nation to stick to the rules whilst he broke them himself and not resign , so you obviously have very low moral standards I would hazzard a guess that a lot of people would think anyone who participates in a swingers site has low moral standards, personally i dont and thats why you have to live by your own standards not others."
Yet you are criticising Starmer for ‘living by his own standards’ . |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
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Good to hear he has now committed to resigning if he gets a fine. I did start to wonder as only this morning one of his colleague's was on the news refusing to answer that question. I still don't think it will get to fines and the recent announcement from SKS reinforces that belief |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory Who is saying he is pretending????? im saying he set his moral bar and now it looks like he wont meet it,nobody to blame except himself.
Don’t we all set our own ‘moral bar’ ? If he gets fined then yes, it’s his own fault and he will have the integrity to resign, that is the honourable thing to do. You think it’s ok for our PM to tell the nation to stick to the rules whilst he broke them himself and not resign , so you obviously have very low moral standards I would hazzard a guess that a lot of people would think anyone who participates in a swingers site has low moral standards, personally i dont and thats why you have to live by your own standards not others.
Yet you are criticising Starmer for ‘living by his own standards’ . "
Nope not criticising him at all its all his own fault nobody else's. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory Who is saying he is pretending????? im saying he set his moral bar and now it looks like he wont meet it,nobody to blame except himself.
Good on him for having morals. Let’s see what happens next.
The thing is you need to check the dates when SKS started saying Johnson should resign. Weirdly it was after be got early sight of the interim Sue Grey report."
do you have links to this? It's next to impossible to track down who says what nowadays.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory Who is saying he is pretending????? im saying he set his moral bar and now it looks like he wont meet it,nobody to blame except himself.
Don’t we all set our own ‘moral bar’ ? If he gets fined then yes, it’s his own fault and he will have the integrity to resign, that is the honourable thing to do. You think it’s ok for our PM to tell the nation to stick to the rules whilst he broke them himself and not resign , so you obviously have very low moral standards I would hazzard a guess that a lot of people would think anyone who participates in a swingers site has low moral standards, personally i dont and thats why you have to live by your own standards not others.
Yet you are criticising Starmer for ‘living by his own standards’ . Nope not criticising him at all its all his own fault nobody else's. "
It is his ‘own fault’ for living by his own standards? That Is something to admire, |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
Good to hear he has now committed to resigning if he gets a fine. I did start to wonder as only this morning one of his colleague's was on the news refusing to answer that question. I still don't think it will get to fines and the recent announcement from SKS reinforces that belief"
I tend to agree, but the people calling him a hypocrite now look very foolish |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory Who is saying he is pretending????? im saying he set his moral bar and now it looks like he wont meet it,nobody to blame except himself.
Don’t we all set our own ‘moral bar’ ? If he gets fined then yes, it’s his own fault and he will have the integrity to resign, that is the honourable thing to do. You think it’s ok for our PM to tell the nation to stick to the rules whilst he broke them himself and not resign , so you obviously have very low moral standards I would hazzard a guess that a lot of people would think anyone who participates in a swingers site has low moral standards, personally i dont and thats why you have to live by your own standards not others.
Yet you are criticising Starmer for ‘living by his own standards’ . Nope not criticising him at all its all his own fault nobody else's.
It is his ‘own fault’ for living by his own standards? That Is something to admire, "
Im glad he does, as i said i think most people do its just that everybody has different moral standards.Obviously mine are different from yours. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory Who is saying he is pretending????? im saying he set his moral bar and now it looks like he wont meet it,nobody to blame except himself.
Don’t we all set our own ‘moral bar’ ? If he gets fined then yes, it’s his own fault and he will have the integrity to resign, that is the honourable thing to do. You think it’s ok for our PM to tell the nation to stick to the rules whilst he broke them himself and not resign , so you obviously have very low moral standards I would hazzard a guess that a lot of people would think anyone who participates in a swingers site has low moral standards, personally i dont and thats why you have to live by your own standards not others.
Yet you are criticising Starmer for ‘living by his own standards’ . Nope not criticising him at all its all his own fault nobody else's.
It is his ‘own fault’ for living by his own standards? That Is something to admire, Im glad he does, as i said i think most people do its just that everybody has different moral standards.Obviously mine are different from yours."
Right, so it’s good that he is sticking to his principles, he has no one else to blame if he gets fined but he has the integrity to resign if he does, I admire that |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"So Starmer has too much integrity?
Well been caught lying a few times already in this "-gate" so....
But you said above his being is integtrity...
Yes that's what he thinks is "him" ...former DPP and a QC yada yada yada
I don't think he has much integrity but he thinks he does
This has to be a wind up, so he is just resigning to pretend he has integrity but really he doesn’t have any
That's my personal view.... but if he didn't resign then it would show he doesn't, he's already been caught lying about the situation
This is definitely a wind up, let me guess, your a Tory voting Boris fan? Starmer thinks breaking covid rules is a resigning matter, he has now stated that if he is fined he will resign and you ‘think’ he is just pretending to have integrity , no wonder you vote Tory Who is saying he is pretending????? im saying he set his moral bar and now it looks like he wont meet it,nobody to blame except himself.
Don’t we all set our own ‘moral bar’ ? If he gets fined then yes, it’s his own fault and he will have the integrity to resign, that is the honourable thing to do. You think it’s ok for our PM to tell the nation to stick to the rules whilst he broke them himself and not resign , so you obviously have very low moral standards I would hazzard a guess that a lot of people would think anyone who participates in a swingers site has low moral standards, personally i dont and thats why you have to live by your own standards not others.
Yet you are criticising Starmer for ‘living by his own standards’ . Nope not criticising him at all its all his own fault nobody else's.
It is his ‘own fault’ for living by his own standards? That Is something to admire, Im glad he does, as i said i think most people do its just that everybody has different moral standards.Obviously mine are different from yours.
Right, so it’s good that he is sticking to his principles, he has no one else to blame if he gets fined but he has the integrity to resign if he does, I admire that "
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By *abioMan
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
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It’s an absolute blinder of a play if you think about it…
If Durham police do nothing, he still has the moral high ground over Johnson and can still put pressure on him to resign
If Durham police do fine him, he has the moral high ground on integrity by resigning, and puts even more pressure on Johnson and sunak to do likewise…
This is why I really think this is a battle the tories and right wing media can’t win on!!! |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
It’s an absolute blinder of a play if you think about it…
If Durham police do nothing, he still has the moral high ground over Johnson and can still put pressure on him to resign
If Durham police do fine him, he has the moral high ground on integrity by resigning, and puts even more pressure on Johnson and sunak to do likewise…
This is why I really think this is a battle the tories and right wing media can’t win on!!! "
Boris and sunak wont resign they will just ride it out . |
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considering the decisons that they have made as regards the application of covid laws since their inception, this is leaving durham police looking like they are puppets of our far righty government to be fair. |
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"considering the decisons that they have made as regards the application of covid laws since their inception, this is leaving durham police looking like they are puppets of our far righty government to be fair. "
Didnt see you saying the same thing with the met police when they were not going to investigate.  |
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"considering the decisons that they have made as regards the application of covid laws since their inception, this is leaving durham police looking like they are puppets of our far righty government to be fair. Didnt see you saying the same thing with the met police when they were not going to investigate. "
the met were consistent in their approach up until the point the gray report seemed to force their hands.
Durham have seemed to steer right consistently. The irony is the new innuendo seems to be implying the labour PCC had influence ! |
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do,
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!
They have completely turned this situation on it’s head, putting the party before themselves
If, IF Starmer and Rayner get fined and them resign, then it will be fascinating to see how:
A) Right wing press spin it so no pressure on Johnson (there is only a false equivalence when it suits them)
B) How the usual suspects on here spin it.
It will be total silence and their focus will be shifted towards immigrants in boats and it blaming the EU for the NI protocol , "
Just an observation but, hypothetically, if he had been tipped the wink that no charges were going to be made, it's a clever strategy as it would leave him free to attack Boris and Rishi from the moral high ground |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"considering the decisons that they have made as regards the application of covid laws since their inception, this is leaving durham police looking like they are puppets of our far righty government to be fair. Didnt see you saying the same thing with the met police when they were not going to investigate. the met were consistent in their approach up until the point the gray report seemed to force their hands.
Durham have seemed to steer right consistently. The irony is the new innuendo seems to be implying the labour PCC had influence ! "
i think you will find it was most of the media who were calling for the met to investigate. |
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"considering the decisons that they have made as regards the application of covid laws since their inception, this is leaving durham police looking like they are puppets of our far righty government to be fair. Didnt see you saying the same thing with the met police when they were not going to investigate. the met were consistent in their approach up until the point the gray report seemed to force their hands.
Durham have seemed to steer right consistently. The irony is the new innuendo seems to be implying the labour PCC had influence ! i think you will find it was most of the media who were calling for the met to investigate."
The goodlawproject were about to sue the met for ignoring partygate. It feels like that is what caused the met to finally investigate. Reason 1 anyway.
Reason 2 feels like the met were trying to bury the Sue Grey report just as it was about to come out. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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'It had already been called a "prawn Balti-matum". But Sir Keir Starmer's pledge to quit if he's fined over "beergate" looks like a desperate gamble.
After being backed into a "korma" for days, the Labour leader certainly came out fighting. But he looked tense and his nine-minute statement was clearly rehearsed.
We now know why he pulled out of a speech to the policy wonks of the Institute for Government and - rudely, his critics would claim - missed the memorial service for former Tory minister James Brokenshire.
His statement was obviously an attempt to set the record straight. But even his most loyal supporters would say it was a statement he should have made weeks ago.
Angela Rayner - who Labour initially denied had been present at the "beergate" curry, later said he'd also quit if she's fined. Bet she's delighted at being forced to back the Starmer karma.'
I can hear the Song right now, lol.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"considering the decisons that they have made as regards the application of covid laws since their inception, this is leaving durham police looking like they are puppets of our far righty government to be fair. Didnt see you saying the same thing with the met police when they were not going to investigate. the met were consistent in their approach up until the point the gray report seemed to force their hands.
Durham have seemed to steer right consistently. The irony is the new innuendo seems to be implying the labour PCC had influence ! i think you will find it was most of the media who were calling for the met to investigate.
The goodlawproject were about to sue the met for ignoring partygate. It feels like that is what caused the met to finally investigate. Reason 1 anyway.
Reason 2 feels like the met were trying to bury the Sue Grey report just as it was about to come out."
The good law project a lawyer making a fortune out of suckers suing by the government for anything good work if you can get it.
Why it will be published sooner or later? |
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"The goodlawproject were about to sue the met for ignoring partygate. It feels like that is what caused the met to finally investigate. Reason 1 anyway.
Reason 2 feels like the met were trying to bury the Sue Grey report just as it was about to come out."
correct .... it's undeniable that the corruption of right wing politicised policing is rampant in the country's state workings. |
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Conservative voters: Boris doesn't need to resign even though he was fined.
Conservative voters: Starmer should resign even though he wasn't fined.
Starmer: I'll resign if I am fined.
Conservative voters: Starmer should or shouldn't be doing what he said he would or wouldn't do.
Boris: laughing his nuts off at the abject apathy amongst Conservative voters. |
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"considering the decisons that they have made as regards the application of covid laws since their inception, this is leaving durham police looking like they are puppets of our far righty government to be fair. Didnt see you saying the same thing with the met police when they were not going to investigate. the met were consistent in their approach up until the point the gray report seemed to force their hands.
Durham have seemed to steer right consistently. The irony is the new innuendo seems to be implying the labour PCC had influence ! i think you will find it was most of the media who were calling for the met to investigate.
The goodlawproject were about to sue the met for ignoring partygate. It feels like that is what caused the met to finally investigate. Reason 1 anyway.
Reason 2 feels like the met were trying to bury the Sue Grey report just as it was about to come out.The good law project a lawyer making a fortune out of suckers suing by the government for anything good work if you can get it.
Why it will be published sooner or later?"
Alternate view: lawyers holding the government and institutions to account in a way that is incredibly important for us all.
Are you really asking why they wanted to delay a report that is supposedly damning at a time when Johnson was teetering on the edge? If you think really, reaally hard, you might be able to figure it out.
(Here's a hint. governments like kicking things into the long grass and releasing them at a time when they think public anger is less and the story won't be noticed as much.) |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"'It had already been called a "prawn Balti-matum". But Sir Keir Starmer's pledge to quit if he's fined over "beergate" looks like a desperate gamble.
After being backed into a "korma" for days, the Labour leader certainly came out fighting. But he looked tense and his nine-minute statement was clearly rehearsed.
We now know why he pulled out of a speech to the policy wonks of the Institute for Government and - rudely, his critics would claim - missed the memorial service for former Tory minister James Brokenshire.
His statement was obviously an attempt to set the record straight. But even his most loyal supporters would say it was a statement he should have made weeks ago.
Angela Rayner - who Labour initially denied had been present at the "beergate" curry, later said he'd also quit if she's fined. Bet she's delighted at being forced to back the Starmer karma.'
I can hear the Song right now, lol.
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All this pressure cant be good for his tikka but ive heard there were no nan,s there. |
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Boris: laughing his nuts off at the abject apathy amongst Conservative voters.
Does this explain where all the apathetic Labour voters were in the Locals?"
Which labour voters were apathetic in the local elections?
What's this got to do with people blindly voting for the Tories no matter have badly Boris treats British people? |
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Boris: laughing his nuts off at the abject apathy amongst Conservative voters.
Does this explain where all the apathetic Labour voters were in the Locals?"
Labour councillors 3064
Tories 1380 |
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
It’s an absolute blinder of a play if you think about it…
If Durham police do nothing, he still has the moral high ground over Johnson and can still put pressure on him to resign
If Durham police do fine him, he has the moral high ground on integrity by resigning, and puts even more pressure on Johnson and sunak to do likewise…
This is why I really think this is a battle the tories and right wing media can’t win on!!! "
_abio what are these morals you speak about I honestly don't understand having morals gets you no where I couldn't care if he was at a gang bang or having a pizza curry or a party just like Johnson just don't see it as important just get on with the job. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
It’s an absolute blinder of a play if you think about it…
If Durham police do nothing, he still has the moral high ground over Johnson and can still put pressure on him to resign
If Durham police do fine him, he has the moral high ground on integrity by resigning, and puts even more pressure on Johnson and sunak to do likewise…
This is why I really think this is a battle the tories and right wing media can’t win on!!! _abio what are these morals you speak about I honestly don't understand having morals gets you no where I couldn't care if he was at a gang bang or having a pizza curry or a party just like Johnson just don't see it as important just get on with the job. "
I’m sure the 000s of people who had loved ones who died alone with families forbidden from visiting them will all feel the same as you!
Interestingly of course, if IF Starmer is fined then Durham Police will need to revisit the case involving Dominic Cummings, the one Johnson squashed! |
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do,
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!
They have completely turned this situation on it’s head, putting the party before themselves
If, IF Starmer and Rayner get fined and them resign, then it will be fascinating to see how:
A) Right wing press spin it so no pressure on Johnson (there is only a false equivalence when it suits them)
B) How the usual suspects on here spin it.
It will be total silence and their focus will be shifted towards immigrants in boats and it blaming the EU for the NI protocol , "
Plus Ukraine and the impending rollout of boosters in the autumn
Who'll replace SKS and Rayner?
What's the mayor of Manchester? Andy Burnham? He's younger too, could be an excellent foil to Johnson, sunak etc |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
The right and honourable thing to do,
Which is why neither Johnson or Sunak will resign. No honour and total belief they are always right. To coin a phrase...scum!
They have completely turned this situation on it’s head, putting the party before themselves
If, IF Starmer and Rayner get fined and them resign, then it will be fascinating to see how:
A) Right wing press spin it so no pressure on Johnson (there is only a false equivalence when it suits them)
B) How the usual suspects on here spin it.
It will be total silence and their focus will be shifted towards immigrants in boats and it blaming the EU for the NI protocol ,
Plus Ukraine and the impending rollout of boosters in the autumn
Who'll replace SKS and Rayner?
What's the mayor of Manchester? Andy Burnham? He's younger too, could be an excellent foil to Johnson, sunak etc"
I think wes streeting seems to be putting himself forward a lot these days he could have his eye on the prize. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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Boris: laughing his nuts off at the abject apathy amongst Conservative voters.
Does this explain where all the apathetic Labour voters were in the Locals?
Which labour voters were apathetic in the local elections?
What's this got to do with people blindly voting for the Tories no matter have badly Boris treats British people?"
Well if you are a Labour Voter you don't vote lib dem  |
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"He just made a statement saying he'll step down if he gets a fixed pentalty notice.
It’s an absolute blinder of a play if you think about it…
If Durham police do nothing, he still has the moral high ground over Johnson and can still put pressure on him to resign
If Durham police do fine him, he has the moral high ground on integrity by resigning, and puts even more pressure on Johnson and sunak to do likewise…
This is why I really think this is a battle the tories and right wing media can’t win on!!! _abio what are these morals you speak about I honestly don't understand having morals gets you no where I couldn't care if he was at a gang bang or having a pizza curry or a party just like Johnson just don't see it as important just get on with the job. "
If everyone thought the same we would be even more fucked than we already are . |
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"considering the decisons that they have made as regards the application of covid laws since their inception, this is leaving durham police looking like they are puppets of our far righty government to be fair. Didnt see you saying the same thing with the met police when they were not going to investigate. the met were consistent in their approach up until the point the gray report seemed to force their hands.
Durham have seemed to steer right consistently. The irony is the new innuendo seems to be implying the labour PCC had influence ! i think you will find it was most of the media who were calling for the met to investigate."
I didn't mention the media. Although I couldn't tell you which newspapers stood where at any time. They flip flop so. And partygate soon moved past one event v quickly. |
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"I didn't mention the media. Although I couldn't tell you which newspapers stood where at any time. They flip flop so.
And partygate soon moved past one event v quickly. "
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He has pulled a blinders here. If he gets no fine it allows him to put more pressure on Boris...though maybe without effect. If he does get fined and resigns then even more makes Boris position untenable.
New leaders all round and labour looking far better. He may not win next election...but he could be responsible for his party doing so.... |
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Boris: laughing his nuts off at the abject apathy amongst Conservative voters.
Does this explain where all the apathetic Labour voters were in the Locals?
Which labour voters were apathetic in the local elections?
What's this got to do with people blindly voting for the Tories no matter have badly Boris treats British people?
Well if you are a Labour Voter you don't vote lib dem "
Indeed. What's that got to do with people blindly voting for the Tories no matter have badly Boris treats British people? |
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Boris: laughing his nuts off at the abject apathy amongst Conservative voters.
Does this explain where all the apathetic Labour voters were in the Locals?
Which labour voters were apathetic in the local elections?
What's this got to do with people blindly voting for the Tories no matter have badly Boris treats British people?
Well if you are a Labour Voter you don't vote lib dem
Indeed. What's that got to do with people blindly voting for the Tories no matter have badly Boris treats British people?"
Worry not about Cat. They've been at the laughing gas again. |
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Look at the cynical right wingers in here, always seeing the worst in people who are not in their gang.
That’s the tory mindset, we are corrupt, everyone else is, we like to break rules, so does everyone else. It is realpolitik as they claim, it’s speaks more the criminality and incompetence which is at the heart of the tory ethos.
People see right through this now, they see that other opposition parties have more integrity and honour in their little fingers than the entire cabal of tory politicians.
Every day this matter continues, the more stupid the Beergate allegations will become, and people will be laughing the utter desperation and straw clutching of the opposition seeing how much of a bunch of clowns they are. |
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"Look at the cynical right wingers in here, always seeing the worst in people who are not in their gang.
That’s the tory mindset, we are corrupt, everyone else is, we like to break rules, so does everyone else. It is realpolitik as they claim, it’s speaks more the criminality and incompetence which is at the heart of the tory ethos.
People see right through this now, they see that other opposition parties have more integrity and honour in their little fingers than the entire cabal of tory politicians.
Every day this matter continues, the more stupid the Beergate allegations will become, and people will be laughing the utter desperation and straw clutching of the opposition seeing how much of a bunch of clowns they are."
It's sad that some people, not only can't even imagine a less shit self serving government, but they also attack anyone who aspires to something better. |
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"Look at the cynical right wingers in here, always seeing the worst in people who are not in their gang.
That’s the tory mindset, we are corrupt, everyone else is, we like to break rules, so does everyone else. It is realpolitik as they claim, it’s speaks more the criminality and incompetence which is at the heart of the tory ethos.
People see right through this now, they see that other opposition parties have more integrity and honour in their little fingers than the entire cabal of tory politicians.
Every day this matter continues, the more stupid the Beergate allegations will become, and people will be laughing the utter desperation and straw clutching of the opposition seeing how much of a bunch of clowns they are.
It's sad that some people, not only can't even imagine a less shit self serving government, but they also attack anyone who aspires to something better. "
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"Look at the cynical right wingers in here, always seeing the worst in people who are not in their gang.
That’s the tory mindset, we are corrupt, everyone else is, we like to break rules, so does everyone else. It is realpolitik as they claim, it’s speaks more the criminality and incompetence which is at the heart of the tory ethos.
People see right through this now, they see that other opposition parties have more integrity and honour in their little fingers than the entire cabal of tory politicians.
Every day this matter continues, the more stupid the Beergate allegations will become, and people will be laughing the utter desperation and straw clutching of the opposition seeing how much of a bunch of clowns they are.
It's sad that some people, not only can't even imagine a less shit self serving government, but they also attack anyone who aspires to something better. "
Both these posts are spot on.
I would have a lot of respect for someone with the courage to say:
“I voted for Johnson and the Tories but I now realise I backed a wrong’un”
But sadly most simply cannot admit they made a mistake. Same with voting Leave for Brexit. They just become more and more entrenched and double down. It’s almost like a cult and as with most cults they haven’t figured that the cult leader, Johnson, couldn’t give a fig about them, any of them! They are all just pawns to help him and his to enrich themselves. Johnson probably cannot believe his luck! |
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‘Another’ ? Who was the last one ?
Corbyn was another champagne socialist wanker."
Most are on the front bench apart from Angela, but has i have said before she is the token working class at the top.
Or as i call her the post turtle. |
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"Good, another wanker bites the dust hopefully
‘Another’ ? Who was the last one ?
Corbyn was another champagne socialist wanker."
How is this related to Conservative voters allowing themselves to be distracted by the news that Starmer once had a beer? |
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"Good, another wanker bites the dust hopefully
‘Another’ ? Who was the last one ?
Corbyn was another champagne socialist wanker.
How is this related to Conservative voters allowing themselves to be distracted by the news that Starmer once had a beer?"
starmer has beer and curry and stretches 200 quid across 30 ppl. Gets called out for being a champagne socialist. |
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"Good, another wanker bites the dust hopefully
‘Another’ ? Who was the last one ?
Corbyn was another champagne socialist wanker.
Most are on the front bench apart from Angela, but has i have said before she is the token working class at the top.
Or as i call her the post turtle."
Are you the token working class Tory voter |
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"Good, another wanker bites the dust hopefully
‘Another’ ? Who was the last one ?
Corbyn was another champagne socialist wanker."
Yeah, he still lives in your head rent free though |
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"Good, another wanker bites the dust hopefully
‘Another’ ? Who was the last one ?
Corbyn was another champagne socialist wanker.
Most are on the front bench apart from Angela, but has i have said before she is the token working class at the top.
Or as i call her the post turtle.
Are you the token working class Tory voter "
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"Good, another wanker bites the dust hopefully
‘Another’ ? Who was the last one ?
Corbyn was another champagne socialist wanker.
Most are on the front bench apart from Angela, but has i have said before she is the token working class at the top.
Or as i call her the post turtle.
Are you the token working class Tory voter
No worked myself up to middle class, how about you, or you just feeling sorry for yourself ? "
Worked you way up to middle class? How do you calculate what class you are? If you have a working class accent you will never be accepted as middle class , just a token working class man trying to be something he isn’t , btw, why would you want to claim your middle class? |
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"Good, another wanker bites the dust hopefully
‘Another’ ? Who was the last one ?
Corbyn was another champagne socialist wanker.
Most are on the front bench apart from Angela, but has i have said before she is the token working class at the top.
Or as i call her the post turtle.
Are you the token working class Tory voter
No worked myself up to middle class, how about you, or you just feeling sorry for yourself ?
Worked you way up to middle class? How do you calculate what class you are? If you have a working class accent you will never be accepted as middle class , just a token working class man trying to be something he isn’t , btw, why would you want to claim your middle class? "
I'm taking the piss |
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"Good, another wanker bites the dust hopefully
‘Another’ ? Who was the last one ?
Corbyn was another champagne socialist wanker.
Most are on the front bench apart from Angela, but has i have said before she is the token working class at the top.
Or as i call her the post turtle.
Are you the token working class Tory voter
No worked myself up to middle class, how about you, or you just feeling sorry for yourself ?
Worked you way up to middle class? How do you calculate what class you are? If you have a working class accent you will never be accepted as middle class , just a token working class man trying to be something he isn’t , btw, why would you want to claim your middle class?
I'm taking the piss "
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