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"So here it is. Our time to shine, and it’s our choice. You can vote for a morally corrupt Conservative party and Leader, who have lied, cheated, and have utilised every underhanded and deceitful method to rob us, the British people of our dignity, our rights, our money, and our lives. Who have one rule for us and another rule for them. Or you can vote for another path, to bring back competence, prosperity and save our nation now. Are we brave enough to vote against the tyranny of the tories? and save our future? It’s up to you. "  | |||
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"The majority of local elections today, are in traditional Labour areas." So there will be false hope for positive change, and then back to the same shit at the GE. I often wonder how much corruption, nepotism, sleaze, lies, self serving behaviour etc it would take to make Conservative voters think twice. | |||
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"So here it is. Our time to shine, and it’s our choice. You can vote for a morally corrupt Conservative party and Leader, who have lied, cheated, and have utilised every underhanded and deceitful method to rob us, the British people of our dignity, our rights, our money, and our lives. Who have one rule for us and another rule for them. Or you can vote for another path, to bring back competence, prosperity and save our nation now. Are we brave enough to vote against the tyranny of the tories? and save our future? It’s up to you. " Today people are voting for their local councils and what they feel best local to them. You can vote Conservative for lower council taxes like in Westminster or vote Labour and see your council go bankcrpt like they did in Croydon. And if you are in London don't forget that under a Labour mayor Crossrail is to open 4 years late and £4 Billion over budget. No matter how the left try to make excuses ultimately Khan has been in charge and the finger points at his bad management. | |||
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"So here it is. Our time to shine, and it’s our choice. You can vote for a morally corrupt Conservative party and Leader, who have lied, cheated, and have utilised every underhanded and deceitful method to rob us, the British people of our dignity, our rights, our money, and our lives. Who have one rule for us and another rule for them. Or you can vote for another path, to bring back competence, prosperity and save our nation now. Are we brave enough to vote against the tyranny of the tories? and save our future? It’s up to you. Today people are voting for their local councils and what they feel best local to them. You can vote Conservative for lower council taxes like in Westminster or vote Labour and see your council go bankcrpt like they did in Croydon. And if you are in London don't forget that under a Labour mayor Crossrail is to open 4 years late and £4 Billion over budget. No matter how the left try to make excuses ultimately Khan has been in charge and the finger points at his bad management." Crossrail - why is it late? What caused the delays? When did those issues and problems first occur? Honest question as I don’t know! | |||
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"So here it is. Our time to shine, and it’s our choice. You can vote for a morally corrupt Conservative party and Leader, who have lied, cheated, and have utilised every underhanded and deceitful method to rob us, the British people of our dignity, our rights, our money, and our lives. Who have one rule for us and another rule for them. Or you can vote for another path, to bring back competence, prosperity and save our nation now. Are we brave enough to vote against the tyranny of the tories? and save our future? It’s up to you. Today people are voting for their local councils and what they feel best local to them. You can vote Conservative for lower council taxes like in Westminster or vote Labour and see your council go bankcrpt like they did in Croydon. And if you are in London don't forget that under a Labour mayor Crossrail is to open 4 years late and £4 Billion over budget. No matter how the left try to make excuses ultimately Khan has been in charge and the finger points at his bad management." La la la it was the bad little man who done it la la la What utter tripe! If you took any time to look at the complexities of building cross rail ( an architect I know spent years working on it ) you might just might get a tiny inkling of how hard it is to build something like this where the tunnels are literally within 0.5 metres and less of existing transport, sewers, other infrastructure, not to mention the huge mass of buildings above parts of it and much of London is a clay soil so maybe it’s astonishing that they got there at all? | |||
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"So here it is. Our time to shine, and it’s our choice. You can vote for a morally corrupt Conservative party and Leader, who have lied, cheated, and have utilised every underhanded and deceitful method to rob us, the British people of our dignity, our rights, our money, and our lives. Who have one rule for us and another rule for them. Or you can vote for another path, to bring back competence, prosperity and save our nation now. Are we brave enough to vote against the tyranny of the tories? and save our future? It’s up to you. Today people are voting for their local councils and what they feel best local to them. You can vote Conservative for lower council taxes like in Westminster or vote Labour and see your council go bankcrpt like they did in Croydon. And if you are in London don't forget that under a Labour mayor Crossrail is to open 4 years late and £4 Billion over budget. No matter how the left try to make excuses ultimately Khan has been in charge and the finger points at his bad management. La la la it was the bad little man who done it la la la What utter tripe! If you took any time to look at the complexities of building cross rail ( an architect I know spent years working on it ) you might just might get a tiny inkling of how hard it is to build something like this where the tunnels are literally within 0.5 metres and less of existing transport, sewers, other infrastructure, not to mention the huge mass of buildings above parts of it and much of London is a clay soil so maybe it’s astonishing that they got there at all? "Crossrail was in the design phase since the 90's. How do I know? Because I worked in the same building. Plenty of time to do the design so no excuses there. As for being close to other infrastructure this is nothing new because resent tunnel projects like DLR and Jubilee extensions means they actually knew what they were doing. Complex yes, impossible no. Delayed due to incompetent management yes. | |||
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"So here it is. Our time to shine, and it’s our choice. You can vote for a morally corrupt Conservative party and Leader, who have lied, cheated, and have utilised every underhanded and deceitful method to rob us, the British people of our dignity, our rights, our money, and our lives. Who have one rule for us and another rule for them. Or you can vote for another path, to bring back competence, prosperity and save our nation now. Are we brave enough to vote against the tyranny of the tories? and save our future? It’s up to you. Today people are voting for their local councils and what they feel best local to them. You can vote Conservative for lower council taxes like in Westminster or vote Labour and see your council go bankcrpt like they did in Croydon. And if you are in London don't forget that under a Labour mayor Crossrail is to open 4 years late and £4 Billion over budget. No matter how the left try to make excuses ultimately Khan has been in charge and the finger points at his bad management. La la la it was the bad little man who done it la la la What utter tripe! If you took any time to look at the complexities of building cross rail ( an architect I know spent years working on it ) you might just might get a tiny inkling of how hard it is to build something like this where the tunnels are literally within 0.5 metres and less of existing transport, sewers, other infrastructure, not to mention the huge mass of buildings above parts of it and much of London is a clay soil so maybe it’s astonishing that they got there at all?
Crossrail was in the design phase since the 90's. How do I know? Because I worked in the same building. Plenty of time to do the design so no excuses there.
As for being close to other infrastructure this is nothing new because resent tunnel projects like DLR and Jubilee extensions means they actually knew what they were doing.
Complex yes, impossible no.
Delayed due to incompetent management yes."You were in the same building- how’s that work then - osmosis? Telepathy? Fascinating | |||
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"So here it is. Our time to shine, and it’s our choice. You can vote for a morally corrupt Conservative party and Leader, who have lied, cheated, and have utilised every underhanded and deceitful method to rob us, the British people of our dignity, our rights, our money, and our lives. Who have one rule for us and another rule for them. Or you can vote for another path, to bring back competence, prosperity and save our nation now. Are we brave enough to vote against the tyranny of the tories? and save our future? It’s up to you. Today people are voting for their local councils and what they feel best local to them. You can vote Conservative for lower council taxes like in Westminster or vote Labour and see your council go bankcrpt like they did in Croydon. And if you are in London don't forget that under a Labour mayor Crossrail is to open 4 years late and £4 Billion over budget. No matter how the left try to make excuses ultimately Khan has been in charge and the finger points at his bad management. La la la it was the bad little man who done it la la la What utter tripe! If you took any time to look at the complexities of building cross rail ( an architect I know spent years working on it ) you might just might get a tiny inkling of how hard it is to build something like this where the tunnels are literally within 0.5 metres and less of existing transport, sewers, other infrastructure, not to mention the huge mass of buildings above parts of it and much of London is a clay soil so maybe it’s astonishing that they got there at all?
Crossrail was in the design phase since the 90's. How do I know? Because I worked in the same building. Plenty of time to do the design so no excuses there.
As for being close to other infrastructure this is nothing new because resent tunnel projects like DLR and Jubilee extensions means they actually knew what they were doing.
Complex yes, impossible no.
Delayed due to incompetent management yes."So why is this Khan’s fault? | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard!" If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. " Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on " Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine  | |||
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"So here it is. Our time to shine, and it’s our choice. You can vote for a morally corrupt Conservative party and Leader, who have lied, cheated, and have utilised every underhanded and deceitful method to rob us, the British people of our dignity, our rights, our money, and our lives. Who have one rule for us and another rule for them. Or you can vote for another path, to bring back competence, prosperity and save our nation now. Are we brave enough to vote against the tyranny of the tories? and save our future? It’s up to you. Today people are voting for their local councils and what they feel best local to them. You can vote Conservative for lower council taxes like in Westminster or vote Labour and see your council go bankcrpt like they did in Croydon. And if you are in London don't forget that under a Labour mayor Crossrail is to open 4 years late and £4 Billion over budget. No matter how the left try to make excuses ultimately Khan has been in charge and the finger points at his bad management." We live in Croydon and I have done all my life and the boroughs flip flops between the two main parties and it’s always the same story Utter chaos when labour in charge and then some semblance of order under the tories. Just wish there was a viable alternative but there isn’t. | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine "Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate? | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?"Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come. | |||
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"So here it is. Our time to shine, and it’s our choice. You can vote for a morally corrupt Conservative party and Leader, who have lied, cheated, and have utilised every underhanded and deceitful method to rob us, the British people of our dignity, our rights, our money, and our lives. Who have one rule for us and another rule for them. Or you can vote for another path, to bring back competence, prosperity and save our nation now. Are we brave enough to vote against the tyranny of the tories? and save our future? It’s up to you. Today people are voting for their local councils and what they feel best local to them. You can vote Conservative for lower council taxes like in Westminster or vote Labour and see your council go bankcrpt like they did in Croydon. And if you are in London don't forget that under a Labour mayor Crossrail is to open 4 years late and £4 Billion over budget. No matter how the left try to make excuses ultimately Khan has been in charge and the finger points at his bad management." Just to put a bit of balance in. The labour run councils in this country charge on average £300 less than conservative councils . | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come."So you didn’t answer my question? Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc. In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties. | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties."Nobody can answer yet its not over when it is we can answer be patient cant find quilt on a forum its not how it works. | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties."To put a bit of balance in. The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday. He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building. SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well. | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well."To put a bit of balance in... We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah). SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid? | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well."isn't the balance : Boris has been found to have broken the (his) law. While also thinking he hadn't. SKS hasn't been found to have broken the law. Even tho Durham police have looked into it. The rest is spin. We don't actually know what happened with Boris. If you can break the law because others hijack you, that feels like a poor law! And as it stands, SKS was working, not socialising. Interesting you think he was self serving curry. Maybe that was the Nadine tweet? Or are you thinking of Durham Tory MP Richard Holden who had a curry in Kent with the Gurkas at a similar time (apparently). | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?"Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ? | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ? "and a time machine. | |||
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"Labour's Joy Allen ran for election as Durham's police and crime commissioner, makes you wonder why maybe it was swept under the carpet a bit quick beer gate, one reason i think more to come out, Starmer endorsed her but Nadine Dorries as been asking questions as she should. " Time to move on fella, more important things going on, don’t you know there is a war on | |||
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"Labour's Joy Allen ran for election as Durham's police and crime commissioner, makes you wonder why maybe it was swept under the carpet a bit quick beer gate, one reason i think more to come out, Starmer endorsed her but Nadine Dorries as been asking questions as she should. Time to move on fella, more important things going on, don’t you know there is a war on " Am i touching a nerve with some facts, Richard Holden MP has written to Jo Farrell ref freedom of information act that he has published, its on his twitter page on HOC paper, time to move on is not yet, we a talking about a man that wants to be PM that to me makes it serious. | |||
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"Labour's Joy Allen ran for election as Durham's police and crime commissioner, makes you wonder why maybe it was swept under the carpet a bit quick beer gate, one reason i think more to come out, Starmer endorsed her but Nadine Dorries as been asking questions as she should. Time to move on fella, more important things going on, don’t you know there is a war on Am i touching a nerve with some facts, Richard Holden MP has written to Jo Farrell ref freedom of information act that he has published, its on his twitter page on HOC paper, time to move on is not yet, we a talking about a man that wants to be PM that to me makes it serious. " It’s done fella, only the DM and there stupid and confused readers are interested, more important things to worry about, don’t you know there is a war on? | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ? "That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing! And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid! | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!"So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it. | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard!" your really selling them | |||
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"The majority of local elections today, are in traditional Labour areas. So there will be false hope for positive change, and then back to the same shit at the GE. I often wonder how much corruption, nepotism, sleaze, lies, self serving behaviour etc it would take to make Conservative voters think twice. " o a lot something Labour will never understand | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it."it's the same with Boris. Did he have cake? Or a line of ? | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.it's the same with Boris. Did he have cake? Or a line of ? " | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it."You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken. Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid. That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing? | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.
You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken.
Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid.
That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing?"Over £200 of curry received on the night in Durham, nothing to do with Dorries claims | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.
You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken.
Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid.
That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing?
Over £200 of curry received on the night in Durham, nothing to do with Dorries claims"And...? How many people working in that constituency office? Maybe some had curry but others had pizza? What is your point? Durham Police were satisfied no rules broken or is eating curry more rule breaking than pizza? | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.
You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken.
Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid.
That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing?
Over £200 of curry received on the night in Durham, nothing to do with Dorries claims
And...? How many people working in that constituency office? Maybe some had curry but others had pizza? What is your point? Durham Police were satisfied no rules broken or is eating curry more rule breaking than pizza?"You really are not up to speed on this story are you "Pressure rises for Durham police to probe Sir Keir's curry night after Labour leader CHANGES his story to describe a buffet feast with colleagues... despite them being BANNED at the time" | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.
You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken.
Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid.
That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing?
Over £200 of curry received on the night in Durham, nothing to do with Dorries claims
And...? How many people working in that constituency office? Maybe some had curry but others had pizza? What is your point? Durham Police were satisfied no rules broken or is eating curry more rule breaking than pizza?
You really are not up to speed on this story are you
"Pressure rises for Durham police to probe Sir Keir's curry night after Labour leader CHANGES his story to describe a buffet feast with colleagues... despite them being BANNED at the time""It’s over fella, time to move on | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.
You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken.
Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid.
That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing?
Over £200 of curry received on the night in Durham, nothing to do with Dorries claims
And...? How many people working in that constituency office? Maybe some had curry but others had pizza? What is your point? Durham Police were satisfied no rules broken or is eating curry more rule breaking than pizza?
You really are not up to speed on this story are you
"Pressure rises for Durham police to probe Sir Keir's curry night after Labour leader CHANGES his story to describe a buffet feast with colleagues... despite them being BANNED at the time""fun game. What is the earliest news reference to pizza. Having looked at some Jan reports it mentions beers and takeaways. I will admit I took pizza as being a fact. Now I'm not sure. That said, it does sound like it may have been "help yourself" which is naughty. | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.
You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken.
Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid.
That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing?
Over £200 of curry received on the night in Durham, nothing to do with Dorries claims
And...? How many people working in that constituency office? Maybe some had curry but others had pizza? What is your point? Durham Police were satisfied no rules broken or is eating curry more rule breaking than pizza?
You really are not up to speed on this story are you
"Pressure rises for Durham police to probe Sir Keir's curry night after Labour leader CHANGES his story to describe a buffet feast with colleagues... despite them being BANNED at the time"fun game. What is the earliest news reference to pizza. Having looked at some Jan reports it mentions beers and takeaways.
I will admit I took pizza as being a fact. Now I'm not sure.
That said, it does sound like it may have been "help yourself" which is naughty. "After reading this very long thread, I think I could put up a reasonable argument for Starmer, not sure why he can't do that himself? Using only the numbers provided here, 30 people and £200 spent on Indian food. He could argue that there was enough food for individual choice and not a buffet, after all 30 people are not going to all like the same thing. Double dipping was expressly forbidden as was sharing. He needed to feed the workforce during a long day, he washed it down with beer from the restaurant. We all know a bottle of beer goes with curry like coffee and cream, salt & pepper, gin & tonic. Would this be enough for people to drop it? He does need to get a back bone... | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.
You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken.
Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid.
That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing?
Over £200 of curry received on the night in Durham, nothing to do with Dorries claims
And...? How many people working in that constituency office? Maybe some had curry but others had pizza? What is your point? Durham Police were satisfied no rules broken or is eating curry more rule breaking than pizza?
You really are not up to speed on this story are you
"Pressure rises for Durham police to probe Sir Keir's curry night after Labour leader CHANGES his story to describe a buffet feast with colleagues... despite them being BANNED at the time"fun game. What is the earliest news reference to pizza. Having looked at some Jan reports it mentions beers and takeaways.
I will admit I took pizza as being a fact. Now I'm not sure.
That said, it does sound like it may have been "help yourself" which is naughty.
After reading this very long thread, I think I could put up a reasonable argument for Starmer, not sure why he can't do that himself?
Using only the numbers provided here, 30 people and £200 spent on Indian food. He could argue that there was enough food for individual choice and not a buffet, after all 30 people are not going to all like the same thing.
Double dipping was expressly forbidden as was sharing. He needed to feed the workforce during a long day, he washed it down with beer from the restaurant. We all know a bottle of beer goes with curry like coffee and cream, salt & pepper, gin & tonic.
Would this be enough for people to drop it? He does need to get a back bone... "NO the old saying "if you can give it but cant take it don't do it" | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.
You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken.
Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid.
That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing?
Over £200 of curry received on the night in Durham, nothing to do with Dorries claims
And...? How many people working in that constituency office? Maybe some had curry but others had pizza? What is your point? Durham Police were satisfied no rules broken or is eating curry more rule breaking than pizza?
You really are not up to speed on this story are you
"Pressure rises for Durham police to probe Sir Keir's curry night after Labour leader CHANGES his story to describe a buffet feast with colleagues... despite them being BANNED at the time"fun game. What is the earliest news reference to pizza. Having looked at some Jan reports it mentions beers and takeaways.
I will admit I took pizza as being a fact. Now I'm not sure.
That said, it does sound like it may have been "help yourself" which is naughty.
After reading this very long thread, I think I could put up a reasonable argument for Starmer, not sure why he can't do that himself?
Using only the numbers provided here, 30 people and £200 spent on Indian food. He could argue that there was enough food for individual choice and not a buffet, after all 30 people are not going to all like the same thing.
Double dipping was expressly forbidden as was sharing. He needed to feed the workforce during a long day, he washed it down with beer from the restaurant. We all know a bottle of beer goes with curry like coffee and cream, salt & pepper, gin & tonic.
Would this be enough for people to drop it? He does need to get a back bone...
NO the old saying "if you can give it but cant take it don't do it" "Get over it, he didn’t break the law | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.
You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken.
Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid.
That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing?
Over £200 of curry received on the night in Durham, nothing to do with Dorries claims
And...? How many people working in that constituency office? Maybe some had curry but others had pizza? What is your point? Durham Police were satisfied no rules broken or is eating curry more rule breaking than pizza?
You really are not up to speed on this story are you
"Pressure rises for Durham police to probe Sir Keir's curry night after Labour leader CHANGES his story to describe a buffet feast with colleagues... despite them being BANNED at the time"fun game. What is the earliest news reference to pizza. Having looked at some Jan reports it mentions beers and takeaways.
I will admit I took pizza as being a fact. Now I'm not sure.
That said, it does sound like it may have been "help yourself" which is naughty.
After reading this very long thread, I think I could put up a reasonable argument for Starmer, not sure why he can't do that himself?
Using only the numbers provided here, 30 people and £200 spent on Indian food. He could argue that there was enough food for individual choice and not a buffet, after all 30 people are not going to all like the same thing.
Double dipping was expressly forbidden as was sharing. He needed to feed the workforce during a long day, he washed it down with beer from the restaurant. We all know a bottle of beer goes with curry like coffee and cream, salt & pepper, gin & tonic.
Would this be enough for people to drop it? He does need to get a back bone...
NO the old saying "if you can give it but cant take it don't do it"
Get over it, he didn’t break the law "You know this because you was there was you? | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.
You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken.
Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid.
That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing?
Over £200 of curry received on the night in Durham, nothing to do with Dorries claims
And...? How many people working in that constituency office? Maybe some had curry but others had pizza? What is your point? Durham Police were satisfied no rules broken or is eating curry more rule breaking than pizza?
You really are not up to speed on this story are you
"Pressure rises for Durham police to probe Sir Keir's curry night after Labour leader CHANGES his story to describe a buffet feast with colleagues... despite them being BANNED at the time"fun game. What is the earliest news reference to pizza. Having looked at some Jan reports it mentions beers and takeaways.
I will admit I took pizza as being a fact. Now I'm not sure.
That said, it does sound like it may have been "help yourself" which is naughty.
After reading this very long thread, I think I could put up a reasonable argument for Starmer, not sure why he can't do that himself?
Using only the numbers provided here, 30 people and £200 spent on Indian food. He could argue that there was enough food for individual choice and not a buffet, after all 30 people are not going to all like the same thing.
Double dipping was expressly forbidden as was sharing. He needed to feed the workforce during a long day, he washed it down with beer from the restaurant. We all know a bottle of beer goes with curry like coffee and cream, salt & pepper, gin & tonic.
Would this be enough for people to drop it? He does need to get a back bone...
NO the old saying "if you can give it but cant take it don't do it"
Get over it, he didn’t break the law
You know this because you was there was you?"innocent until proven guilty. Plus the police looked into it. You don't know he's guilty. What do you know that the police didn't ? | |||
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"Yeah but just remember that Labour is led by someone who bought a field so his Mum could open a donkey sanctuary - the bastard! Oh and he had beer and pizza after work at his desk and despite Durham Police finding nothing wrong in that, he still did it - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit posh (despite growing up in a semi), so even though he is not as posh as the other fella, he isn’t like us (irony) - the bastard! Oh and he is a bit dull - the bastard! If that is Sir Kier's CV i don't see any thing that qualifies him as a PM, Also sounds like Elsie not so needy as described also a Labour activist, And Rayner ignoring questions on beer gate this morning. Beer gate not over by a long way yet. Beer gate is finished, move on , don’t you know there is a war on Want to bet on that if im wrong ill pay your gold site support if i win you pay mine
Is beergate as serious as partygate? Are they directly comparable and proportionate?
Right is right wrong is wrong what ever the name tag, lets see the out come.
So you didn’t answer my question?
Let’s be honest here (regardless of tribalist loyalties) having beer and pizza at your desk after a day’s work may possibly have broken the rules (Durham Police say no), but that is not remotely in the same league as repeated, proper parties in No10 with flowing booze (suitcase full), DJ decks, broken child’s swing etc etc.
In law repeatedly offending attracts progressively harsher penalties.
To put a bit of balance in.
The PM has (so far) received ONE fpn for being in the cabinet room just before a meeting when other people came in the wish him happy birthday.
He was actually at his place of work and also lives in part of the building.
SKS was in someone else's office with up to 30 people drinking beer and self serving a curry. Self serving was against the covid rules at that time and socialising with people outside of you bubble or household was against the rule as well.
To put a bit of balance in...
We only know about the one FPN because the Met have decided not to release any more information (in part due to local election purdah).
SKS was eating a pizza not a curry? Unless you are referencing the picture Nadine Dorries shared of SKS eating a curry, with Frank Dobson who died before Covid?
Pizza from an Indian take away unlikely so in that case then must have had a pizza delivery as well then, that what you saying ?
That people need to get their facts straight before posting. It is just embarrassing!
And what are YOU on about? The curry picture was before covid!
So did they have curry or pizza ???? see nothing adds up does it.
You’ve lost me! Last thing I read was that SKS and gang had beer and pizza at desk at work in constituency office. Durham Police investigated and found no rules had been broken.
Now it is possible that one or more of the team ordered a curry. I don’t know. But the additional confusion here is that Dorries retweeted a doctored pic of SKS eating a curry claiming this was during lockdown. It wasn’t. The undoctored pic had Frank Dobson in it. He died before Covid.
That’s what I am referencing. What are you referencing?
Over £200 of curry received on the night in Durham, nothing to do with Dorries claims
And...? How many people working in that constituency office? Maybe some had curry but others had pizza? What is your point? Durham Police were satisfied no rules broken or is eating curry more rule breaking than pizza?
You really are not up to speed on this story are you
"Pressure rises for Durham police to probe Sir Keir's curry night after Labour leader CHANGES his story to describe a buffet feast with colleagues... despite them being BANNED at the time"fun game. What is the earliest news reference to pizza. Having looked at some Jan reports it mentions beers and takeaways.
I will admit I took pizza as being a fact. Now I'm not sure.
That said, it does sound like it may have been "help yourself" which is naughty.
After reading this very long thread, I think I could put up a reasonable argument for Starmer, not sure why he can't do that himself?
Using only the numbers provided here, 30 people and £200 spent on Indian food. He could argue that there was enough food for individual choice and not a buffet, after all 30 people are not going to all like the same thing.
Double dipping was expressly forbidden as was sharing. He needed to feed the workforce during a long day, he washed it down with beer from the restaurant. We all know a bottle of beer goes with curry like coffee and cream, salt & pepper, gin & tonic.
Would this be enough for people to drop it? He does need to get a back bone... "course it isn't enough. This is about the act itself but distracting from HMG. Does it matter if it was curry or pizza ? No. Does it matter if his second in command was there? No. The tabloids will still go hunting. Any angle for any headline. Anything to make you think "they are all as bad as each other". | |||
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"I'm voting for the local lady who has actually knocked at our door and introduced herself well before any election. She also sorted out a new street light and cut back some trees. She does her job as a local councillor, what flavour she is, we find somewhat unimportant, she does what she said she would do, represent our ward and sort out local problems and doesn't slag off other parties, her work speaks for itself. Good on her. "Well said I could not agree more with you attitude towards local elections, so much better than all the other tribal bullshit being spouted in this thread. | |||
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"Desperation. At worst SKS is found to have broken the rules once. And I suspect the level to which they were broken will be marginal from what has been said on here. It doesn’t compare to multiple infringements of a more obvious nature. It really is that simple. Kier had a beer, Boris partied (more than once)." Boris also was in charge of 10 downing st where multiple breaches of the rules occurred | |||
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"Desperation. At worst SKS is found to have broken the rules once. And I suspect the level to which they were broken will be marginal from what has been said on here. It doesn’t compare to multiple infringements of a more obvious nature. It really is that simple. Kier had a beer, Boris partied (more than once). Boris also was in charge of 10 downing st where multiple breaches of the rules occurred " and was PM when the rules were created. So, really, he broke his own rules. | |||
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"Desperation. At worst SKS is found to have broken the rules once. And I suspect the level to which they were broken will be marginal from what has been said on here. It doesn’t compare to multiple infringements of a more obvious nature. It really is that simple. Kier had a beer, Boris partied (more than once)." Do local councils usually keep beer in their offices?  | |||
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"Desperation. At worst SKS is found to have broken the rules once. And I suspect the level to which they were broken will be marginal from what has been said on here. It doesn’t compare to multiple infringements of a more obvious nature. It really is that simple. Kier had a beer, Boris partied (more than once).Do local councils usually keep beer in their offices? "No but you can order a beer with a takeaway and have it delivered to a place of work. What is your point? | |||
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"Desperation. At worst SKS is found to have broken the rules once. And I suspect the level to which they were broken will be marginal from what has been said on here. It doesn’t compare to multiple infringements of a more obvious nature. It really is that simple. Kier had a beer, Boris partied (more than once).Do local councils usually keep beer in their offices?
No but you can order a beer with a takeaway and have it delivered to a place of work. What is your point?"I just wondered, so they actually ordered beer in hmmmm. | |||
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"I'm voting for the local lady who has actually knocked at our door and introduced herself well before any election. She also sorted out a new street light and cut back some trees. She does her job as a local councillor, what flavour she is, we find somewhat unimportant, she does what she said she would do, represent our ward and sort out local problems and doesn't slag off other parties, her work speaks for itself. Good on her.
Well said I could not agree more with you attitude towards local elections, so much better than all the other tribal bullshit being spouted in this thread. "Thanks. I've tried to read the other lengthy threads but I'm nowhere near as intellectual or knowledgeable on politics, covid and all other subjects, apart from, obviously, meeting swingers. I get halfway down the thread and get that funny tingling feeling in my feet. I've been told it's my life slipping out my boots. As long as they are happy at least it keeps them off the streets like the rest of the naughty boys. | |||
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"i see his supporters are as hypocritical as he is, it all makes sense now. "Johnson's supporters you mean? Yes they are hypocritical. Also deluded. | |||
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"Desperation. At worst SKS is found to have broken the rules once. And I suspect the level to which they were broken will be marginal from what has been said on here. It doesn’t compare to multiple infringements of a more obvious nature. It really is that simple. Kier had a beer, Boris partied (more than once).Do local councils usually keep beer in their offices?
No but you can order a beer with a takeaway and have it delivered to a place of work. What is your point?I just wondered, so they actually ordered beer in hmmmm."Hmmmm what? Are you really trying to compare a pizza (or curry) and bottle of beer to full blown parties, DJ decks and a suitcase full of beer? Desperate! | |||
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"Desperation. At worst SKS is found to have broken the rules once. And I suspect the level to which they were broken will be marginal from what has been said on here. It doesn’t compare to multiple infringements of a more obvious nature. It really is that simple. Kier had a beer, Boris partied (more than once).Do local councils usually keep beer in their offices?
No but you can order a beer with a takeaway and have it delivered to a place of work. What is your point?I just wondered, so they actually ordered beer in hmmmm.
Hmmmm what? Are you really trying to compare a pizza (or curry) and bottle of beer to full blown parties, DJ decks and a suitcase full of beer? Desperate!"That's exactly the game the Tories have been playing in the media for a while. Anything to try and distract and confuse the gullible. | |||
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"Desperation. At worst SKS is found to have broken the rules once. And I suspect the level to which they were broken will be marginal from what has been said on here. It doesn’t compare to multiple infringements of a more obvious nature. It really is that simple. Kier had a beer, Boris partied (more than once).Do local councils usually keep beer in their offices?
No but you can order a beer with a takeaway and have it delivered to a place of work. What is your point?I just wondered, so they actually ordered beer in hmmmm.
Hmmmm what? Are you really trying to compare a pizza (or curry) and bottle of beer to full blown parties, DJ decks and a suitcase full of beer? Desperate!
That's exactly the game the Tories have been playing in the media for a while. Anything to try and distract and confuse the gullible."Maybe they should ask the met police bodyguards as it seems they were at the bash too. | |||
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"Desperation. At worst SKS is found to have broken the rules once. And I suspect the level to which they were broken will be marginal from what has been said on here. It doesn’t compare to multiple infringements of a more obvious nature. It really is that simple. Kier had a beer, Boris partied (more than once).Do local councils usually keep beer in their offices?
No but you can order a beer with a takeaway and have it delivered to a place of work. What is your point?I just wondered, so they actually ordered beer in hmmmm.
Hmmmm what? Are you really trying to compare a pizza (or curry) and bottle of beer to full blown parties, DJ decks and a suitcase full of beer? Desperate!
That's exactly the game the Tories have been playing in the media for a while. Anything to try and distract and confuse the gullible.Maybe they should ask the met police bodyguards as it seems they were at the bash too."The met? You mean the group who refused to investigate Partygate until they were literally being sued by the Goodlawproject over ignoring the issue? | |||
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"Desperation. At worst SKS is found to have broken the rules once. And I suspect the level to which they were broken will be marginal from what has been said on here. It doesn’t compare to multiple infringements of a more obvious nature. It really is that simple. Kier had a beer, Boris partied (more than once).Do local councils usually keep beer in their offices?
No but you can order a beer with a takeaway and have it delivered to a place of work. What is your point?I just wondered, so they actually ordered beer in hmmmm.
Hmmmm what? Are you really trying to compare a pizza (or curry) and bottle of beer to full blown parties, DJ decks and a suitcase full of beer? Desperate!
That's exactly the game the Tories have been playing in the media for a while. Anything to try and distract and confuse the gullible.Maybe they should ask the met police bodyguards as it seems they were at the bash too.
The met? You mean the group who refused to investigate Partygate until they were literally being sued by the Goodlawproject over ignoring the issue?"yes the very same now surely Durham police interviewed them. | |||
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"(Or maybe the met were just threatened with being sued over doing fuck all about Partygate. Either way, the met have shown themselves to be thoroughly in be with the government. They proved it again when they recently said they wouln't announce any more Johnson fines ahead of these elections.)" Do you not think in light of the revelations about how much was delivered (enough for around 30 people) that it should be given the same attention as the birthday party? Im waiting for the booze delivery to come out as it will eventually. | |||
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"(Or maybe the met were just threatened with being sued over doing fuck all about Partygate. Either way, the met have shown themselves to be thoroughly in be with the government. They proved it again when they recently said they wouln't announce any more Johnson fines ahead of these elections.)Do you not think in light of the revelations about how much was delivered (enough for around 30 people) that it should be given the same attention as the birthday party? Im waiting for the booze delivery to come out as it will eventually." Well Durham police don’t as they have confirmed no case to answer but of course perhaps you know more…. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then..." So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny? | |||
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"(Or maybe the met were just threatened with being sued over doing fuck all about Partygate. Either way, the met have shown themselves to be thoroughly in be with the government. They proved it again when they recently said they wouln't announce any more Johnson fines ahead of these elections.)Do you not think in light of the revelations about how much was delivered (enough for around 30 people) that it should be given the same attention as the birthday party? Im waiting for the booze delivery to come out as it will eventually." now I know the north is cheap, but we are told it was £200 worth of food. So less than £7 a head. Or maybe it wasn't 30 people. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?"You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous. There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. | |||
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"So here it is. Our time to shine, and it’s our choice. You can vote for a morally corrupt Conservative party and Leader, who have lied, cheated, and have utilised every underhanded and deceitful method to rob us, the British people of our dignity, our rights, our money, and our lives. Who have one rule for us and another rule for them. Or you can vote for another path, to bring back competence, prosperity and save our nation now. Are we brave enough to vote against the tyranny of the tories? and save our future? It’s up to you. " This kind of means I will probably seek out an independent candidate as I can't vote conservative for the reasons you list and can't vote either Labour or lib dems as they are currently in coalition in my area and not doing a very good job. So the 3 main parties are ruled out in my opinion. | |||
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"(Or maybe the met were just threatened with being sued over doing fuck all about Partygate. Either way, the met have shown themselves to be thoroughly in be with the government. They proved it again when they recently said they wouln't announce any more Johnson fines ahead of these elections.)Do you not think in light of the revelations about how much was delivered (enough for around 30 people) that it should be given the same attention as the birthday party? Im waiting for the booze delivery to come out as it will eventually.now I know the north is cheap, but we are told it was £200 worth of food. So less than £7 a head. Or maybe it wasn't 30 people. " Exactly why i said about. Thats besides the point should it undergo the same scrutiny or not? now if it was me and i had not done anything wrong i would want it re investigated just to prove im not a hypocrite like being made out to be. | |||
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"(Or maybe the met were just threatened with being sued over doing fuck all about Partygate. Either way, the met have shown themselves to be thoroughly in be with the government. They proved it again when they recently said they wouln't announce any more Johnson fines ahead of these elections.)Do you not think in light of the revelations about how much was delivered (enough for around 30 people) that it should be given the same attention as the birthday party? Im waiting for the booze delivery to come out as it will eventually." Plenty more will come out as i have said in previse post Joy Allen ran for election as Durham's police and crime commissioner and was endorsed by Starmer. Not looking good for Captain hindsight. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. "As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do. | |||
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"This dead cat has been flogged to oblivion. Looking forward to the tory scum getting a good shoeing "Exactly the kind of language parliament is trying to discourage.  are you Rayner in disguise? | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do."He already was investigated over this ages ago. the cops said he did nothing wrong. I did say that earlier. Can you really not see this whole beergate story is a desperate attempt by Johnson to distract from his own wrongdoing, lying and lawbreaking? At exactly the time when Johnson wants people talking about beergate rather than partygate. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
He already was investigated over this ages ago. the cops said he did nothing wrong. I did say that earlier.
Can you really not see this whole beergate story is a desperate attempt by Johnson to distract from his own wrongdoing, lying and lawbreaking? At exactly the time when Johnson wants people talking about beergate rather than partygate."Apparently not with the same scrutiny the people who video,d it were not even interviewed i doubt the curry house was as its only come to light lately and as rayner was not there but really was i doubt if they spoke to her.So again do you believe they should both have the same scrutiny yes or no? | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
He already was investigated over this ages ago. the cops said he did nothing wrong. I did say that earlier.
Can you really not see this whole beergate story is a desperate attempt by Johnson to distract from his own wrongdoing, lying and lawbreaking? At exactly the time when Johnson wants people talking about beergate rather than partygate.Apparently not with the same scrutiny the people who video,d it were not even interviewed i doubt the curry house was as its only come to light lately and as rayner was not there but really was i doubt if they spoke to her.So again do you believe they should both have the same scrutiny yes or no?"Sure thing. That means the cops will say they can't investigate Starmer as there isn't enough evidence. Then they'll say they can't investigate something that happened in the past. Then Starmer will get to pick a civil servant who works for him to investigate the situation. That'd literally be the same as what went on with Johnson. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do."Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations? | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out "What do you think will happen with the elections? | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?"Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
He already was investigated over this ages ago. the cops said he did nothing wrong. I did say that earlier.
Can you really not see this whole beergate story is a desperate attempt by Johnson to distract from his own wrongdoing, lying and lawbreaking? At exactly the time when Johnson wants people talking about beergate rather than partygate.Apparently not with the same scrutiny the people who video,d it were not even interviewed i doubt the curry house was as its only come to light lately and as rayner was not there but really was i doubt if they spoke to her.So again do you believe they should both have the same scrutiny yes or no?
Sure thing. That means the cops will say they can't investigate Starmer as there isn't enough evidence. Then they'll say they can't investigate something that happened in the past. Then Starmer will get to pick a civil servant who works for him to investigate the situation. That'd literally be the same as what went on with Johnson."Im glad we both agree and he should have nothing to worry about if he is as squeaky clean as he says he is. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred."Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there? | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?"Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before."I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before."So SKS didn't break the law (yet), and has more morals than Boris. And that's a bad thing. Amazing. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool."No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record. | |||
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" I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record."After crowing to the government about the increase of NI, and it's effect on lower incomes, he refused 7 times on TV to say if he would reverse it !!! The Labour Party deserve better. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record."As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you... | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record.
As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you..."No one has convinced me i make my own mind up on all matters in my life. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record.
As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you...No one has convinced me i make my own mind up on all matters in my life."If you choose to smile over the deaths and last moments of so many being taken so lightly, that's even worse. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record.
As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you...No one has convinced me i make my own mind up on all matters in my life.
If you choose to smile over the deaths and last moments of so many being taken so lightly, that's even worse."Do me a favour mate you are scr&ping the bottom of the barrel now. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record.
As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you...No one has convinced me i make my own mind up on all matters in my life.
If you choose to smile over the deaths and last moments of so many being taken so lightly, that's even worse.Do me a favour mate you are scr&ping the bottom of the barrel now. "1 of my closest friends died with Covid. I had to do his funeral via zoom. I couldn't be there to hug his widow. Strangely enough, I'm not laughing about all this... | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record.
As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you...No one has convinced me i make my own mind up on all matters in my life.
If you choose to smile over the deaths and last moments of so many being taken so lightly, that's even worse.Do me a favour mate you are scr&ping the bottom of the barrel now.
1 of my closest friends died with Covid. I had to do his funeral via zoom. I couldn't be there to hug his widow. Strangely enough, I'm not laughing about all this..."yet you accuse me of laughing | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record.
As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you...No one has convinced me i make my own mind up on all matters in my life.
If you choose to smile over the deaths and last moments of so many being taken so lightly, that's even worse.Do me a favour mate you are scr&ping the bottom of the barrel now.
1 of my closest friends died with Covid. I had to do his funeral via zoom. I couldn't be there to hug his widow. Strangely enough, I'm not laughing about all this...yet you accuse me of laughing "You really do love ignoring reality. Just look above at all the laughing emojis you posted | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record.
As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you...No one has convinced me i make my own mind up on all matters in my life.
If you choose to smile over the deaths and last moments of so many being taken so lightly, that's even worse.Do me a favour mate you are scr&ping the bottom of the barrel now.
1 of my closest friends died with Covid. I had to do his funeral via zoom. I couldn't be there to hug his widow. Strangely enough, I'm not laughing about all this...yet you accuse me of laughing
You really do love ignoring reality. Just look above at all the laughing emojis you posted"you really dont understand im laughing at YOU and the same old rhetoric that starmer has been churning out and you accuse me of being taken in. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record.
As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you...No one has convinced me i make my own mind up on all matters in my life.
If you choose to smile over the deaths and last moments of so many being taken so lightly, that's even worse.Do me a favour mate you are scr&ping the bottom of the barrel now.
1 of my closest friends died with Covid. I had to do his funeral via zoom. I couldn't be there to hug his widow. Strangely enough, I'm not laughing about all this...yet you accuse me of laughing
You really do love ignoring reality. Just look above at all the laughing emojis you postedyou really dont understand im laughing at YOU and the same old rhetoric that starmer has been churning out and you accuse me of being taken in. "At this moment, you sicken me. We're done here. | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record.
As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you...No one has convinced me i make my own mind up on all matters in my life.
If you choose to smile over the deaths and last moments of so many being taken so lightly, that's even worse.Do me a favour mate you are scr&ping the bottom of the barrel now.
1 of my closest friends died with Covid. I had to do his funeral via zoom. I couldn't be there to hug his widow. Strangely enough, I'm not laughing about all this...yet you accuse me of laughing
You really do love ignoring reality. Just look above at all the laughing emojis you postedyou really dont understand im laughing at YOU and the same old rhetoric that starmer has been churning out and you accuse me of being taken in.
At this moment, you sicken me. We're done here."Have a nice evening.  | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record.
As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you...No one has convinced me i make my own mind up on all matters in my life.
If you choose to smile over the deaths and last moments of so many being taken so lightly, that's even worse.Do me a favour mate you are scr&ping the bottom of the barrel now.
1 of my closest friends died with Covid. I had to do his funeral via zoom. I couldn't be there to hug his widow. Strangely enough, I'm not laughing about all this...yet you accuse me of laughing
You really do love ignoring reality. Just look above at all the laughing emojis you postedyou really dont understand im laughing at YOU and the same old rhetoric that starmer has been churning out and you accuse me of being taken in.
At this moment, you sicken me. We're done here.Have a nice evening."Oh Costa….another proud moment….well done mate  | |||
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"Lemme get this straight. Starmer had a beer. Cops investigated at the time + said there wasa no problem. On the other side, Johnson presided over party central for months. He then lied about it all for months. The met refused to look into it for ages because there wasn't enough evidence. And because the met don't look into things that happened in the past. When the met were getting sued ( or about to be sued) they finally looked into Partygate. (Just in time to bury the Sue Grey report that was apparently gonna be damning.) They finally said Johnson broke the law. + a bunch of others at No 10 + D street. And more fines + accounts of lawbreaking will be incoming. (But only after th election because we can't have voters having the facts before voting.) + the Sue grey report will maybe possibly someday be released. And that's all equivalent to Starmer's beer? Right you are then...So you keep saying but as of today boris has been fined along with rishi (who just happened to turn up for the meeting early) a song a birthday cake neither which i would think was instigated by boris( even he is not that vain).Yet SKS is video,d drinking beer with which turns out about 30 others then you have rayner who wasnt there and is now there ( only guessing but maybe the hoky coky was going on ) and you dont think they both warrent the same scrutiny?
You're either incredibly naive or you're being disingenuous.
There were many, many, many parties under Johnson. Many, many lies. The Tories are desperately trying to convince the gullible that Starmer having a beer on an occasion that was already investigated is the same thing. Because the Tories fully expect to get a kicking in the local elections over Partygate. As i said as of now just one, answer my question should starmer undergo the same scrutiny or is he above that in your view? its not hard yes or no will do.
Your desperation is palpable! Are you saying Durham Police are no good? That Durham Police didn’t do a proper job? Are you saying the Met did or didn’t do a proper job? It’s all so confusing. Which police force did a better job of scrutiny? Why is that the case in your opinion? Do you have first hand experience of police investigations?Not confusing at all unless you want it to be people who were not there but now were have not been interviewed obviously and so a proper investigation has not occurred.
Let's play this out. Say there is another investigation that says Starmer had a beer wrongly + he gets a fine. Set that against shitloads of parties + fines at Downing Street, presided over by the guy (Johnson) who introduced the Covid laws + said we all had to follow them. Do you really not see there is a vast difference of scale + hypocrisy there?Well yes actually, after SKS holier than thou speech about honesty ,integrity and a man of honour would resign in that pathetic voice he put on i would expect him to resign if he is true to his word.We already know boris doesnt think its a resigning offence as he is still there.SKS painted himself into a corner with that speech even though Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks before.
I actually pity you. You've been so indoctrinated that you can't see Johnson is taking you for a fool.No mate not at all and i dont need your pity. Personally i lost all interest in partygate a few days after it was reported and would have whomever it was about.I actually feel a bit sorry for you buying the line its mud slinging because of the elections when thats exactly what SKS has been doing for the last few months instead of concentrating on the things that really matter. He has shown himself to have no answer for anything and his only way of getting anywhere is to drip feed partygate as i said before even Lisa Nandy told him to drop it weeks ago as he was sounding like a broken record.
As I said, I pity you. Our lying, lawbreaking leader has convinced you it's no big deal he lied, broke the law and treated us all with contempt while we couldn't even say farewell to loved ones when they died. You're even smiling over this. Look at what Johnson has done to you...No one has convinced me i make my own mind up on all matters in my life.
If you choose to smile over the deaths and last moments of so many being taken so lightly, that's even worse.Do me a favour mate you are scr&ping the bottom of the barrel now.
1 of my closest friends died with Covid. I had to do his funeral via zoom. I couldn't be there to hug his widow. Strangely enough, I'm not laughing about all this...yet you accuse me of laughing
You really do love ignoring reality. Just look above at all the laughing emojis you postedyou really dont understand im laughing at YOU and the same old rhetoric that starmer has been churning out and you accuse me of being taken in.
At this moment, you sicken me. We're done here.Have a nice evening.
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" These Boris fanboys are losing it,
So. Let me get this straight? You mean the Seven key coordinating conjunctions, in English = Fanboys.
I think that you will find that once you understand them, and then connect them, you are actually 'getting it', not 'losing it'. Lmao.
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" These Boris fanboys are losing it,
So. Let me get this straight? You mean the Seven key coordinating conjunctions, in English = Fanboys.
I think that you will find that once you understand them, and then connect them, you are actually 'getting it', not 'losing it'. Lmao.
You have proved my point, "That you don't understand what you are writing? hahahah | |||
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" These Boris fanboys are losing it,
So. Let me get this straight? You mean the Seven key coordinating conjunctions, in English = Fanboys.
I think that you will find that once you understand them, and then connect them, you are actually 'getting it', not 'losing it'. Lmao.
You have proved my point,
That you don't understand what you are writing? hahahah"Again, your proving my point, | |||
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"What in all this I find sad is you believe what social media tells you,what ever way you vote non do the homework,its modern day proper gander,Boris and Keir was bang out of order,but the proper gander machine kicked it in and you all fell for it,fighting amongst your selves just what they want,takes the heat of them both,I know I've been laying bait but you all took it in they just want votes I'm sure some MPs are genuine but the machine takes over rant over ." What’s good for the goose is good for the gander | |||
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"What in all this I find sad is you believe what social media tells you,what ever way you vote non do the homework,its modern day proper gander,Boris and Keir was bang out of order,but the proper gander machine kicked it in and you all fell for it,fighting amongst your selves just what they want,takes the heat of them both,I know I've been laying bait but you all took it in they just want votes I'm sure some MPs are genuine but the machine takes over rant over . What’s good for the goose is good for the gander " "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself" Joseph Goebbels | |||
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"Well not exactly a tidal wave.
To have been expected. Displeasure has been felt.
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"What in all this I find sad is you believe what social media tells you,what ever way you vote non do the homework,its modern day proper gander,Boris and Keir was bang out of order,but the proper gander machine kicked it in and you all fell for it,fighting amongst your selves just what they want,takes the heat of them both,I know I've been laying bait but you all took it in they just want votes I'm sure some MPs are genuine but the machine takes over rant over ." For the love of God can you please use punctuation and sentences/paragraphs! I can totally forgive typos (I make loads due to this tiny iphone keyboard) but actually mis-spelling shouldn’t happen with spell checkers! Yeah yeah grammar police | |||
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"Well not exactly a tidal wave.
To have been expected. Displeasure has been felt.
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"What in all this I find sad is you believe what social media tells you,what ever way you vote non do the homework,its modern day proper gander,Boris and Keir was bang out of order,but the proper gander machine kicked it in and you all fell for it,fighting amongst your selves just what they want,takes the heat of them both,I know I've been laying bait but you all took it in they just want votes I'm sure some MPs are genuine but the machine takes over rant over . What’s good for the goose is good for the gander "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself" Joseph Goebbels" I was told it slightly different many years ago. When you believe your own bullshit, you are in trouble. How true. Spout it but never believe it. | |||
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"What in all this I find sad is you believe what social media tells you,what ever way you vote non do the homework,its modern day proper gander,Boris and Keir was bang out of order,but the proper gander machine kicked it in and you all fell for it,fighting amongst your selves just what they want,takes the heat of them both,I know I've been laying bait but you all took it in they just want votes I'm sure some MPs are genuine but the machine takes over rant over . For the love of God can you please use punctuation and sentences/paragraphs! I can totally forgive typos (I make loads due to this tiny iphone keyboard) but actually mis-spelling shouldn’t happen with spell checkers! Yeah yeah grammar police "Ill take it as a complement as all you can pick up on is grammar at least the message got across | |||
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"What in all this I find sad is you believe what social media tells you,what ever way you vote non do the homework,its modern day proper gander,Boris and Keir was bang out of order,but the proper gander machine kicked it in and you all fell for it,fighting amongst your selves just what they want,takes the heat of them both,I know I've been laying bait but you all took it in they just want votes I'm sure some MPs are genuine but the machine takes over rant over . For the love of God can you please use punctuation and sentences/paragraphs! I can totally forgive typos (I make loads due to this tiny iphone keyboard) but actually mis-spelling shouldn’t happen with spell checkers! Yeah yeah grammar police
Ill take it as a complement as all you can pick up on is grammar at least the message got across "You can take that as a compliment if you want. I wouldn’t. Your message was confused at best! | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out "Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
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Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn "Wow. This will be interesting. I'm uncomfortable that this decision has been made. But there you go. I also wonder if the police should look at the Holden curry. Or is investigations of one off events only for leaders ? This will naan. | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
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Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
If he gets a fine he has to resign, and he will "the get out will be he hasn't misled the house. It's not the fine that's a resigning matter, but saying no rules were broken. Minesterial code and all that. | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
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Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn "Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion. I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind. I don't care about partygate or beergate. Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
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Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
If he gets a fine he has to resign, and he will the get out will be he hasn't misled the house. It's not the fine that's a resigning matter, but saying no rules were broken. Minesterial code and all that. "Maybe, I still think he will have to go, and Rayner if she is fined, if they don’t I won’t be voting Labour (although I did vote Lib Dems in 2019 and last night) in | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
If he gets a fine he has to resign, and he will the get out will be he hasn't misled the house. It's not the fine that's a resigning matter, but saying no rules were broken. Minesterial code and all that.
Maybe, I still think he will have to go, and Rayner if she is fined, if they don’t I won’t be voting Labour (although I did vote Lib Dems in 2019 and last night) in "I'm genuinely surprised you feel that strongly. | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
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Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
If he gets a fine he has to resign, and he will the get out will be he hasn't misled the house. It's not the fine that's a resigning matter, but saying no rules were broken. Minesterial code and all that.
Maybe, I still think he will have to go, and Rayner if she is fined, if they don’t I won’t be voting Labour (although I did vote Lib Dems in 2019 and last night) in
I'm genuinely surprised you feel that strongly."I do, you can’t berate the Tories for weeks then get caught doing the same, you lose all credibility. I like to think SKS is a decent honourable man so I expect him to resign if he is fined | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice "tbh it's not the one off rule break that frustrated me. It was the seemingly culture of breaking the rules. And then denying it. If I break the speed limit, I'm a dick. If I campaign to have a speed limit, preach to ppl how important it is to obey the speed limit, and then consistently speed myself because I feel the speed limit is dumb or doesn't apply to me, I'm a bigger dick. I want my law setters to set good laws. I want people in positions of authority to be trustworthy. It's more than hypocrisy. In the same way, I'm okay with a shopkeeper having a pint at lunchtime, I'd not want a surgeon to. What "all the people" are doing isn't what's important. | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
If he gets a fine he has to resign, and he will the get out will be he hasn't misled the house. It's not the fine that's a resigning matter, but saying no rules were broken. Minesterial code and all that.
Maybe, I still think he will have to go, and Rayner if she is fined, if they don’t I won’t be voting Labour (although I did vote Lib Dems in 2019 and last night) in
I'm genuinely surprised you feel that strongly.
I do, you can’t berate the Tories for weeks then get caught doing the same, you lose all credibility. I like to think SKS is a decent honourable man so I expect him to resign if he is fined "I'm not a Labour voter, but I can see SKS is probably the best fit to lead the party. I honestly believe the media have created a frenzy that seems to be fuelled by, in my opinion, pure emotion and nothing of significance. | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice "Its very healthy i don't get sucked in by social media opinion, i make my own mind up, im not trying to be popular but like the truth. | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
If he gets a fine he has to resign, and he will the get out will be he hasn't misled the house. It's not the fine that's a resigning matter, but saying no rules were broken. Minesterial code and all that.
Maybe, I still think he will have to go, and Rayner if she is fined, if they don’t I won’t be voting Labour (although I did vote Lib Dems in 2019 and last night) in
I'm genuinely surprised you feel that strongly.
I do, you can’t berate the Tories for weeks then get caught doing the same, you lose all credibility. I like to think SKS is a decent honourable man so I expect him to resign if he is fined
I'm not a Labour voter, but I can see SKS is probably the best fit to lead the party. I honestly believe the media have created a frenzy that seems to be fuelled by, in my opinion, pure emotion and nothing of significance. "Hopefully that is the case, the Tories are on the ropes but I just can’t see how he will have any credibility if he gets fined, for the good of the party I think he will go | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice tbh it's not the one off rule break that frustrated me. It was the seemingly culture of breaking the rules. And then denying it.
If I break the speed limit, I'm a dick. If I campaign to have a speed limit, preach to ppl how important it is to obey the speed limit, and then consistently speed myself because I feel the speed limit is dumb or doesn't apply to me, I'm a bigger dick.
I want my law setters to set good laws. I want people in positions of authority to be trustworthy. It's more than hypocrisy.
In the same way, I'm okay with a shopkeeper having a pint at lunchtime, I'd not want a surgeon to. What "all the people" are doing isn't what's important. "You make some great points! The point about the shopkeeper and the surgeon is a good example of what I'm thinking too. The curry and a beer was late into the evening, nothing more to be done, why should that shake the world? | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
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Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice tbh it's not the one off rule break that frustrated me. It was the seemingly culture of breaking the rules. And then denying it.
If I break the speed limit, I'm a dick. If I campaign to have a speed limit, preach to ppl how important it is to obey the speed limit, and then consistently speed myself because I feel the speed limit is dumb or doesn't apply to me, I'm a bigger dick.
I want my law setters to set good laws. I want people in positions of authority to be trustworthy. It's more than hypocrisy.
In the same way, I'm okay with a shopkeeper having a pint at lunchtime, I'd not want a surgeon to. What "all the people" are doing isn't what's important.
You make some great points! The point about the shopkeeper and the surgeon is a good example of what I'm thinking too.
The curry and a beer was late into the evening, nothing more to be done, why should that shake the world? "Have you actually followed this or just what you read here? | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
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Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice tbh it's not the one off rule break that frustrated me. It was the seemingly culture of breaking the rules. And then denying it.
If I break the speed limit, I'm a dick. If I campaign to have a speed limit, preach to ppl how important it is to obey the speed limit, and then consistently speed myself because I feel the speed limit is dumb or doesn't apply to me, I'm a bigger dick.
I want my law setters to set good laws. I want people in positions of authority to be trustworthy. It's more than hypocrisy.
In the same way, I'm okay with a shopkeeper having a pint at lunchtime, I'd not want a surgeon to. What "all the people" are doing isn't what's important.
You make some great points! The point about the shopkeeper and the surgeon is a good example of what I'm thinking too.
The curry and a beer was late into the evening, nothing more to be done, why should that shake the world?
Have you actually followed this or just what you read here? "A little of both, I just don't see how it is worth my attention. Explain to me why I should be concerned. | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
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Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice tbh it's not the one off rule break that frustrated me. It was the seemingly culture of breaking the rules. And then denying it.
If I break the speed limit, I'm a dick. If I campaign to have a speed limit, preach to ppl how important it is to obey the speed limit, and then consistently speed myself because I feel the speed limit is dumb or doesn't apply to me, I'm a bigger dick.
I want my law setters to set good laws. I want people in positions of authority to be trustworthy. It's more than hypocrisy.
In the same way, I'm okay with a shopkeeper having a pint at lunchtime, I'd not want a surgeon to. What "all the people" are doing isn't what's important.
You make some great points! The point about the shopkeeper and the surgeon is a good example of what I'm thinking too.
The curry and a beer was late into the evening, nothing more to be done, why should that shake the world? "for me, that shouldnt. The culture in Number 10, and the statements after, should. That said, if KSK were found to have misled the police, that's a different matter. It will be interesting to see if they change their decision and why ... | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice tbh it's not the one off rule break that frustrated me. It was the seemingly culture of breaking the rules. And then denying it.
If I break the speed limit, I'm a dick. If I campaign to have a speed limit, preach to ppl how important it is to obey the speed limit, and then consistently speed myself because I feel the speed limit is dumb or doesn't apply to me, I'm a bigger dick.
I want my law setters to set good laws. I want people in positions of authority to be trustworthy. It's more than hypocrisy.
In the same way, I'm okay with a shopkeeper having a pint at lunchtime, I'd not want a surgeon to. What "all the people" are doing isn't what's important.
You make some great points! The point about the shopkeeper and the surgeon is a good example of what I'm thinking too.
The curry and a beer was late into the evening, nothing more to be done, why should that shake the world? for me, that shouldnt. The culture in Number 10, and the statements after, should.
That said, if KSK were found to have misled the police, that's a different matter. It will be interesting to see if they change their decision and why ..." | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice tbh it's not the one off rule break that frustrated me. It was the seemingly culture of breaking the rules. And then denying it.
If I break the speed limit, I'm a dick. If I campaign to have a speed limit, preach to ppl how important it is to obey the speed limit, and then consistently speed myself because I feel the speed limit is dumb or doesn't apply to me, I'm a bigger dick.
I want my law setters to set good laws. I want people in positions of authority to be trustworthy. It's more than hypocrisy.
In the same way, I'm okay with a shopkeeper having a pint at lunchtime, I'd not want a surgeon to. What "all the people" are doing isn't what's important.
You make some great points! The point about the shopkeeper and the surgeon is a good example of what I'm thinking too.
The curry and a beer was late into the evening, nothing more to be done, why should that shake the world?
Have you actually followed this or just what you read here?
A little of both, I just don't see how it is worth my attention. Explain to me why I should be concerned."Because he claimed they carried on working after the curry dumb or what. | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice tbh it's not the one off rule break that frustrated me. It was the seemingly culture of breaking the rules. And then denying it.
If I break the speed limit, I'm a dick. If I campaign to have a speed limit, preach to ppl how important it is to obey the speed limit, and then consistently speed myself because I feel the speed limit is dumb or doesn't apply to me, I'm a bigger dick.
I want my law setters to set good laws. I want people in positions of authority to be trustworthy. It's more than hypocrisy.
In the same way, I'm okay with a shopkeeper having a pint at lunchtime, I'd not want a surgeon to. What "all the people" are doing isn't what's important.
You make some great points! The point about the shopkeeper and the surgeon is a good example of what I'm thinking too.
The curry and a beer was late into the evening, nothing more to be done, why should that shake the world?
Have you actually followed this or just what you read here?
A little of both, I just don't see how it is worth my attention. Explain to me why I should be concerned.
Because he claimed they carried on working after the curry dumb or what."It is consuming a bottle of beer, then working that is the main point of concern? | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice tbh it's not the one off rule break that frustrated me. It was the seemingly culture of breaking the rules. And then denying it.
If I break the speed limit, I'm a dick. If I campaign to have a speed limit, preach to ppl how important it is to obey the speed limit, and then consistently speed myself because I feel the speed limit is dumb or doesn't apply to me, I'm a bigger dick.
I want my law setters to set good laws. I want people in positions of authority to be trustworthy. It's more than hypocrisy.
In the same way, I'm okay with a shopkeeper having a pint at lunchtime, I'd not want a surgeon to. What "all the people" are doing isn't what's important.
You make some great points! The point about the shopkeeper and the surgeon is a good example of what I'm thinking too.
The curry and a beer was late into the evening, nothing more to be done, why should that shake the world?
Have you actually followed this or just what you read here?
A little of both, I just don't see how it is worth my attention. Explain to me why I should be concerned.
Because he claimed they carried on working after the curry dumb or what.
It is consuming a bottle of beer, then working that is the main point of concern?"the claim is that the curry was legit as he worked after. If no work was done, then it more clearly fell outside the rules. Now whether it was a big deal is a different question. But step one is show he broke the rules. (The hidden implication of those saying he didn't work because tej curry was at 10 is that they wouldnt have worked after the curry. Now that is probably true for the man in the street. It's a slightly odd position from thsie saying they were working all hours through a once in a life time crisis) | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice tbh it's not the one off rule break that frustrated me. It was the seemingly culture of breaking the rules. And then denying it.
If I break the speed limit, I'm a dick. If I campaign to have a speed limit, preach to ppl how important it is to obey the speed limit, and then consistently speed myself because I feel the speed limit is dumb or doesn't apply to me, I'm a bigger dick.
I want my law setters to set good laws. I want people in positions of authority to be trustworthy. It's more than hypocrisy.
In the same way, I'm okay with a shopkeeper having a pint at lunchtime, I'd not want a surgeon to. What "all the people" are doing isn't what's important.
You make some great points! The point about the shopkeeper and the surgeon is a good example of what I'm thinking too.
The curry and a beer was late into the evening, nothing more to be done, why should that shake the world?
Have you actually followed this or just what you read here?
A little of both, I just don't see how it is worth my attention. Explain to me why I should be concerned.
Because he claimed they carried on working after the curry dumb or what.
It is consuming a bottle of beer, then working that is the main point of concern?the claim is that the curry was legit as he worked after.
If no work was done, then it more clearly fell outside the rules.
Now whether it was a big deal is a different question. But step one is show he broke the rules.
(The hidden implication of those saying he didn't work because tej curry was at 10 is that they wouldnt have worked after the curry. Now that is probably true for the man in the street. It's a slightly odd position from thsie saying they were working all hours through a once in a life time crisis)"You've summed it up how I expected it to be, and this is why I am struggling to see why the circus is in town. | |||
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"Just sit back people and see what comes next cant keep judging on a forum, but me personally have plenty of popcorn and beer ready for the fall out
Keir Starmer WILL face investigation into 'beergate' in major police U-turn
Not sure i have enough beer & pop corn
Reading your posts, I'm not sure what your driving force is, but it isn't healthy in my opinion.
I'm going to say something that I think will blow your mind.
I don't care about partygate or beergate.
Thousands of people across the UK did exactly the same, and many not even in a work environment. Those thousands of people are exactly the same as these politicians, yet they hide behind statements such as, "they should know better", "but they are running the country", They made the rules and broke them and they are all hypocrite's. Guess what so are all the people who met in gardens, in work, on beaches, in the country side and so on. Everyone of them is exactly the same. You can decide to get over it and stop letting the media dictate your frustrations, or you can continue getting excited about work colleagues having something to eat and drink after work. Good luck with your choice tbh it's not the one off rule break that frustrated me. It was the seemingly culture of breaking the rules. And then denying it.
If I break the speed limit, I'm a dick. If I campaign to have a speed limit, preach to ppl how important it is to obey the speed limit, and then consistently speed myself because I feel the speed limit is dumb or doesn't apply to me, I'm a bigger dick.
I want my law setters to set good laws. I want people in positions of authority to be trustworthy. It's more than hypocrisy.
In the same way, I'm okay with a shopkeeper having a pint at lunchtime, I'd not want a surgeon to. What "all the people" are doing isn't what's important.
You make some great points! The point about the shopkeeper and the surgeon is a good example of what I'm thinking too.
The curry and a beer was late into the evening, nothing more to be done, why should that shake the world?
Have you actually followed this or just what you read here?
A little of both, I just don't see how it is worth my attention. Explain to me why I should be concerned.
Because he claimed they carried on working after the curry dumb or what.
It is consuming a bottle of beer, then working that is the main point of concern?the claim is that the curry was legit as he worked after.
If no work was done, then it more clearly fell outside the rules.
Now whether it was a big deal is a different question. But step one is show he broke the rules.
(The hidden implication of those saying he didn't work because tej curry was at 10 is that they wouldnt have worked after the curry. Now that is probably true for the man in the street. It's a slightly odd position from thsie saying they were working all hours through a once in a life time crisis)
You've summed it up how I expected it to be, and this is why I am struggling to see why the circus is in town.
"that's easy. Thso circus distracts from the number 10 circus. Or at least allows ppl to say they are all clowns so i can vote for a Tory clown and not feel bad. Imo the Tories know ppl will vote for them if you give them a reason to not feel as bad. It's like someone who wants to sleep with you convincing you yr OH is cheating. You wont be cheating... Honest! | |||
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"If SKS broke the rules he should be fined like everyone else. If he lied about it, he should resign. It still doesn’t in any way excuse what Johnson and staff at No10 did repeatedly for months. There simply is no comparison in quantity or severity of the law/rule breaking AND being an opposition leader is not the same as being THE prime minister, ie the ultimate power in the land who the buck is supposed to stop with. He ultimately makes the laws/rules and he more than anyone in the country should understand and abide by them. It is simply inarguable. Johnson should resign. He won’t. SKS...well let’s see! If he is fined and if be doesn’t them resign, he is a hypocrite. Personally prefer Yvette Cooper anyway lol" All politicians are hypocrite's, they must be or they couldn't be a politician, let alone to be human. Probably for another post | |||
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"Just a thought… this is the same Durham constabulary that said Dominic Cummings trip around Durham and Barnard castle *ahem* testing his eyesight was okay… so what do we know Anyway apparently the Durham plod had already looked at it.. said nothing wrong, but are now being leaned on by local Tory mps to “have another look!” So if SKS gets one… does it even up with bojo getting 3 or 4???? Is that what we are reaching for now???" … nothing to do with receiving significant new information??? | |||
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"Seeing Cpt Hindsight gloating is just to much , absolute c@#k "Only on the camera, in reality they haven't gained that much for a mid term election.I doubt if they will make a pact with the lib/dems again after their gains.Ooops sorry there was no pact. | |||
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"Seeing Cpt Hindsight gloating is just to much , absolute c@#k Only on the camera, in reality they haven't gained that much for a mid term election.I doubt if they will make a pact with the lib/dems again after their gains.Ooops sorry there was no pact. "Let’s see what the outcome is on the Labour Party front ( during lockdown), he was baying for Boris to stand down , so is he going to stand down himself? | |||
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"Seeing Cpt Hindsight gloating is just to much , absolute c@#k Only on the camera, in reality they haven't gained that much for a mid term election.I doubt if they will make a pact with the lib/dems again after their gains.Ooops sorry there was no pact.
Let’s see what the outcome is on the Labour Party front ( during lockdown), he was baying for Boris to stand down , so is he going to stand down himself? "If he gets fined, definitely and rightly so, | |||
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"Seeing Cpt Hindsight gloating is just to much , absolute c@#k Only on the camera, in reality they haven't gained that much for a mid term election.I doubt if they will make a pact with the lib/dems again after their gains.Ooops sorry there was no pact. "The tories have lost over 450 councillors, | |||
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"Seeing Cpt Hindsight gloating is just to much , absolute c@#k Only on the camera, in reality they haven't gained that much for a mid term election.I doubt if they will make a pact with the lib/dems again after their gains.Ooops sorry there was no pact.
The tories have lost over 450 councillors, "Just a small blip, nothing to worry about this moment in time | |||
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"This is the power of voting, this is democracy, Tories know what they have to do now, I don't think how much gloss they put on this, it was pretty damning. Boris is a political liability, because if they go into the Next GE with him at the helm, its going to cost them their majority and then some. His ship is sinking and he is taking his party with him. " It is democracy at work
People showing their displeasure mid term, nothing new there but when it comes to the countries real issues they revert back to those they trust the most. | |||
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"This is the power of voting, this is democracy, Tories know what they have to do now, I don't think how much gloss they put on this, it was pretty damning. Boris is a political liability, because if they go into the Next GE with him at the helm, its going to cost them their majority and then some. His ship is sinking and he is taking his party with him. It is democracy at work
People showing their displeasure mid term, nothing new there but when it comes to the countries real issues they revert back to those they trust the most."That is exactly the point. The electorate will vote for who they trust. The Conservative party have frequently been out of power and many times when they were far more competent than now... | |||
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"This is the power of voting, this is democracy, Tories know what they have to do now, I don't think how much gloss they put on this, it was pretty damning. Boris is a political liability, because if they go into the Next GE with him at the helm, its going to cost them their majority and then some. His ship is sinking and he is taking his party with him. It is democracy at work
People showing their displeasure mid term, nothing new there but when it comes to the countries real issues they revert back to those they distrust the least."FTFY. Agree with the sentiments tho. | |||
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"This is the power of voting, this is democracy, Tories know what they have to do now, I don't think how much gloss they put on this, it was pretty damning. Boris is a political liability, because if they go into the Next GE with him at the helm, its going to cost them their majority and then some. His ship is sinking and he is taking his party with him. It is democracy at work
People showing their displeasure mid term, nothing new there but when it comes to the countries real issues they revert back to those they trust the most."100% The Tory propaganda machine is all powerful, there's no way they will allow people to vote them out of power. | |||
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"It would appear that the Conservative party is getting seriously slapped. Johnson will not leave in the hope of something happening between now and the election. Tory MPs will not do anything because there is no credible alternative as Johnson's crew have targeted Rishi Sunak. They will be answerable to their electorate for that. So, for those who are not supporters of the Tory party or Johnson he needs to stay in power, but what damage to the country in the meantime?" No alternative there is one i predict, and its a female that already made Rayner look very silly in the HOC "Penny Mordaunt tore her claims of cronyism to shreds. In a four-minute-long response, Mordaunt addressed each of Rayner’s allegations, concluding with a damning fact" Don't take your eye of the ball things change fast. | |||
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