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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton

So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton

Mods - just realised there is a similar thread already here:

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1295750#message_31420086

So maybe lock this one?

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving."

The knee bones connected to the... Thigh bone...

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By *I TwoCouple  over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving."

Maybe we can buy it through India with out new trade deal

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By *appyPandaMan  over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun

What gets to me is that people react so passionately about these small things that are happening now that are only the beginning of the breakdown of global supply chains we'll see in the coming years and not see the big picture.

Don't want to be an "The End is nigh" poster, but things are going to start getting worse, more unpredictable but very very interesting to say the least.

We always read about civilisations collapsing throughout history, but rarely ever consider we could be there to witness it.

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton


"What gets to me is that people react so passionately about these small things that are happening now that are only the beginning of the breakdown of global supply chains we'll see in the coming years and not see the big picture.

Don't want to be an "The End is nigh" poster, but things are going to start getting worse, more unpredictable but very very interesting to say the least.

We always read about civilisations collapsing throughout history, but rarely ever consider we could be there to witness it."

Bet you’re fun at parties

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What gets to me is that people react so passionately about these small things that are happening now that are only the beginning of the breakdown of global supply chains we'll see in the coming years and not see the big picture.

Don't want to be an "The End is nigh" poster, but things are going to start getting worse, more unpredictable but very very interesting to say the least.

We always read about civilisations collapsing throughout history, but rarely ever consider we could be there to witness it."

Sadly true

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By *appyPandaMan  over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"What gets to me is that people react so passionately about these small things that are happening now that are only the beginning of the breakdown of global supply chains we'll see in the coming years and not see the big picture.

Don't want to be an "The End is nigh" poster, but things are going to start getting worse, more unpredictable but very very interesting to say the least.

We always read about civilisations collapsing throughout history, but rarely ever consider we could be there to witness it.

Sadly true "

Sure we've been on this planet at a level capable of civilization for only 0.0000022% of it's lifespan, yet we go around convincing ourselves that our current imaginary wealth is important and the planet is there for us.

It'll go on long after we're gone, and no matter what happens, life will flourish once again. Gives me hope to wonder what sort of complex ecosystems will thrive in our long abandoned and deteriorated cities.

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By *appyPandaMan  over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"What gets to me is that people react so passionately about these small things that are happening now that are only the beginning of the breakdown of global supply chains we'll see in the coming years and not see the big picture.

Don't want to be an "The End is nigh" poster, but things are going to start getting worse, more unpredictable but very very interesting to say the least.

We always read about civilisations collapsing throughout history, but rarely ever consider we could be there to witness it.

Bet you’re fun at parties "

You wouldn't know it, but I actually am great craic. Just don't get me started on humanity as a species lost in overshoot unless you love a great discussion.

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton


"What gets to me is that people react so passionately about these small things that are happening now that are only the beginning of the breakdown of global supply chains we'll see in the coming years and not see the big picture.

Don't want to be an "The End is nigh" poster, but things are going to start getting worse, more unpredictable but very very interesting to say the least.

We always read about civilisations collapsing throughout history, but rarely ever consider we could be there to witness it.

Bet you’re fun at parties

You wouldn't know it, but I actually am great craic. Just don't get me started on humanity as a species lost in overshoot unless you love a great discussion. "

Yeah but humanity isn’t ALL bad. I mean we created Guinness!

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By *appyPandaMan  over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"What gets to me is that people react so passionately about these small things that are happening now that are only the beginning of the breakdown of global supply chains we'll see in the coming years and not see the big picture.

Don't want to be an "The End is nigh" poster, but things are going to start getting worse, more unpredictable but very very interesting to say the least.

We always read about civilisations collapsing throughout history, but rarely ever consider we could be there to witness it.

Bet you’re fun at parties

You wouldn't know it, but I actually am great craic. Just don't get me started on humanity as a species lost in overshoot unless you love a great discussion.

Yeah but humanity isn’t ALL bad. I mean we created Guinness!"

Agreed. I'm not saying we are bad, just easily mislead and have an inability to see the sheer absurdity around us that we completely accept as reality, even if we're old enough to have seen how much the norm has changed and how so much of what we treat as absolute is really fragile.

We're capable of great kindness and brilliance, but we advanced too quickly while still beset with tendencies and instincts that were adaptations to a much different world that was harsher in many ways, but much simpler in other ways. It wasn't just a collection of ideals or social constructs that held everything together.

When people talk about reality, they're mainly talking about this artificial world around humanity we've created and completely encapsulated ourselves in.

They're not talking about how we wonderfully curious (if silly and still very tribalistic) apes are just specks on this planet as it hurtles around the sun at 30km/s, going even faster than that around the galaxy in a universe so huge we can't even fathom, and our whole existence has been the most brief blink of an eye in the grand scheme.

And the sad truth is that this silly species while so fascinating and capable of greatness, is hurtling into a very possible extinction due to this fake world around us convincing us that the imaginary monetary gain we don't see the ecological costs of is all important.

I'm a doomer, but not a gloomer. Just really recognise the beauty around you for what it is, and the sheer absurdity that so many people constantly complain about without considering how incredible it is that us sentient creatures of this crazy universe even got to this point, or can even marvel at the beauty of bird song in the background while you type long rambling posts no one will likely read fully.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What gets to me is that people react so passionately about these small things that are happening now that are only the beginning of the breakdown of global supply chains we'll see in the coming years and not see the big picture.

Don't want to be an "The End is nigh" poster, but things are going to start getting worse, more unpredictable but very very interesting to say the least.

We always read about civilisations collapsing throughout history, but rarely ever consider we could be there to witness it.

Bet you’re fun at parties

You wouldn't know it, but I actually am great craic. Just don't get me started on humanity as a species lost in overshoot unless you love a great discussion.

Yeah but humanity isn’t ALL bad. I mean we created Guinness!

Agreed. I'm not saying we are bad, just easily mislead and have an inability to see the sheer absurdity around us that we completely accept as reality, even if we're old enough to have seen how much the norm has changed and how so much of what we treat as absolute is really fragile.

We're capable of great kindness and brilliance, but we advanced too quickly while still beset with tendencies and instincts that were adaptations to a much different world that was harsher in many ways, but much simpler in other ways. It wasn't just a collection of ideals or social constructs that held everything together.

When people talk about reality, they're mainly talking about this artificial world around humanity we've created and completely encapsulated ourselves in.

They're not talking about how we wonderfully curious (if silly and still very tribalistic) apes are just specks on this planet as it hurtles around the sun at 30km/s, going even faster than that around the galaxy in a universe so huge we can't even fathom, and our whole existence has been the most brief blink of an eye in the grand scheme.

And the sad truth is that this silly species while so fascinating and capable of greatness, is hurtling into a very possible extinction due to this fake world around us convincing us that the imaginary monetary gain we don't see the ecological costs of is all important.

I'm a doomer, but not a gloomer. Just really recognise the beauty around you for what it is, and the sheer absurdity that so many people constantly complain about without considering how incredible it is that us sentient creatures of this crazy universe even got to this point, or can even marvel at the beauty of bird song in the background while you type long rambling posts no one will likely read fully."

Just to say i read your posts fully and applaud

them,i admire your sincerity.

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By *appyPandaMan  over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"What gets to me is that people react so passionately about these small things that are happening now that are only the beginning of the breakdown of global supply chains we'll see in the coming years and not see the big picture.

Don't want to be an "The End is nigh" poster, but things are going to start getting worse, more unpredictable but very very interesting to say the least.

We always read about civilisations collapsing throughout history, but rarely ever consider we could be there to witness it.

Bet you’re fun at parties

You wouldn't know it, but I actually am great craic. Just don't get me started on humanity as a species lost in overshoot unless you love a great discussion.

Yeah but humanity isn’t ALL bad. I mean we created Guinness!

Agreed. I'm not saying we are bad, just easily mislead and have an inability to see the sheer absurdity around us that we completely accept as reality, even if we're old enough to have seen how much the norm has changed and how so much of what we treat as absolute is really fragile.

We're capable of great kindness and brilliance, but we advanced too quickly while still beset with tendencies and instincts that were adaptations to a much different world that was harsher in many ways, but much simpler in other ways. It wasn't just a collection of ideals or social constructs that held everything together.

When people talk about reality, they're mainly talking about this artificial world around humanity we've created and completely encapsulated ourselves in.

They're not talking about how we wonderfully curious (if silly and still very tribalistic) apes are just specks on this planet as it hurtles around the sun at 30km/s, going even faster than that around the galaxy in a universe so huge we can't even fathom, and our whole existence has been the most brief blink of an eye in the grand scheme.

And the sad truth is that this silly species while so fascinating and capable of greatness, is hurtling into a very possible extinction due to this fake world around us convincing us that the imaginary monetary gain we don't see the ecological costs of is all important.

I'm a doomer, but not a gloomer. Just really recognise the beauty around you for what it is, and the sheer absurdity that so many people constantly complain about without considering how incredible it is that us sentient creatures of this crazy universe even got to this point, or can even marvel at the beauty of bird song in the background while you type long rambling posts no one will likely read fully.

Just to say i read your posts fully and applaud

them,i admire your sincerity.

"

We're all in this together, even if our inherent tribalism and need for "us Vs them" narratives has us quarreling among each other too often.

When things seem depressing (as you seem to be the sort of person who really actually sees what's happening while everyone else is distracted by unimportant nonsense) just marvel at how crazy it is that you're here on this tiny speck of dust traveling through space, with trillions of cells just working away inside ya all just to keep you working away without even noticing it. You are the universe seeing itself.

That, or listen to The Galaxy Song my Monty Python.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What gets to me is that people react so passionately about these small things that are happening now that are only the beginning of the breakdown of global supply chains we'll see in the coming years and not see the big picture.

Don't want to be an "The End is nigh" poster, but things are going to start getting worse, more unpredictable but very very interesting to say the least.

We always read about civilisations collapsing throughout history, but rarely ever consider we could be there to witness it.

Bet you’re fun at parties "

I’ve bought a fiddle. Can’t play for toffee. But there’s no evidence Nero was a virtuoso either

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By *mateur100Man  over a year ago

nr faversham


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving."

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along "

They are not alone in doing this. It's reported around further 10 companies are looking at doing the same thing. As well as Germany it looks like Italy and Austria will be doing the same thing amongst others. Spain have been told by Algeria that they risk cuts to their supply if they use the gas to send to other countries. Something to do with a link to a dispute with Morocco

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along

They are not alone in doing this. It's reported around further 10 companies are looking at doing the same thing. As well as Germany it looks like Italy and Austria will be doing the same thing amongst others. Spain have been told by Algeria that they risk cuts to their supply if they use the gas to send to other countries. Something to do with a link to a dispute with Morocco"

So the EU really putting the squeeze on Russian roubles then. I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles.

Makes you wonder how many of the sanctions announced by the "West has never been so aligned" are actually effectively implemented...or arvthey just a thin ineffective veneer so we can sit on the outside feeling noble.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along

They are not alone in doing this. It's reported around further 10 companies are looking at doing the same thing. As well as Germany it looks like Italy and Austria will be doing the same thing amongst others. Spain have been told by Algeria that they risk cuts to their supply if they use the gas to send to other countries. Something to do with a link to a dispute with Morocco

So the EU really putting the squeeze on Russian roubles then. I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles.

Makes you wonder how many of the sanctions announced by the "West has never been so aligned" are actually effectively implemented...or arvthey just a thin ineffective veneer so we can sit on the outside feeling noble. "

All in it together until it effects them but thats always been the case with the eu all smoke and mirrors.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

" I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles."

Is that true?

How much gas does France import?

France is pretty self reliant with electricity and nuclear - in fact it exports to the UK.

Can you name your source please?

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By *I TwoCouple  over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along "

Wasn't Boris in India doing a trade deal ? The same India that has increased it's use of Russian oil ? Is that ok ?

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along

They are not alone in doing this. It's reported around further 10 companies are looking at doing the same thing. As well as Germany it looks like Italy and Austria will be doing the same thing amongst others. Spain have been told by Algeria that they risk cuts to their supply if they use the gas to send to other countries. Something to do with a link to a dispute with Morocco

So the EU really putting the squeeze on Russian roubles then. I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles.

Makes you wonder how many of the sanctions announced by the "West has never been so aligned" are actually effectively implemented...or arvthey just a thin ineffective veneer so we can sit on the outside feeling noble. All in it together until it effects them but thats always been the case with the eu all smoke and mirrors."

You mean they had sovereignty all along

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along

They are not alone in doing this. It's reported around further 10 companies are looking at doing the same thing. As well as Germany it looks like Italy and Austria will be doing the same thing amongst others. Spain have been told by Algeria that they risk cuts to their supply if they use the gas to send to other countries. Something to do with a link to a dispute with Morocco

So the EU really putting the squeeze on Russian roubles then. I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles.

Makes you wonder how many of the sanctions announced by the "West has never been so aligned" are actually effectively implemented...or arvthey just a thin ineffective veneer so we can sit on the outside feeling noble. All in it together until it effects them but thats always been the case with the eu all smoke and mirrors.

You mean they had sovereignty all along "

who,s doubting that? but eu regulations prevail over national law so not on everything.

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"" I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles."

Is that true?

How much gas does France import?

France is pretty self reliant with electricity and nuclear - in fact it exports to the UK.

Can you name your source please?"

I'll have a quick look, pretty sure it was the BBC or perhaps independent.... In the same story as the mechanism most are now using to pay Russia in roubles... Ie euro to a bank owned by Gazprom who convert it to roubles. If I find the link I'll post it.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"" I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles."

Is that true?

How much gas does France import?

France is pretty self reliant with electricity and nuclear - in fact it exports to the UK.

Can you name your source please?

I'll have a quick look, pretty sure it was the BBC or perhaps independent.... In the same story as the mechanism most are now using to pay Russia in roubles... Ie euro to a bank owned by Gazprom who convert it to roubles. If I find the link I'll post it. "

Dont knock the French mate unless you have solid links some on here take the hump.

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"" I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles."

Is that true?

How much gas does France import?

France is pretty self reliant with electricity and nuclear - in fact it exports to the UK.

Can you name your source please?

I'll have a quick look, pretty sure it was the BBC or perhaps independent.... In the same story as the mechanism most are now using to pay Russia in roubles... Ie euro to a bank owned by Gazprom who convert it to roubles. If I find the link I'll post it. Dont knock the French mate unless you have solid links some on here take the hump. "

I have no problem with that. Best to debate and discuss facts. There's always someone who knows more.

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along

They are not alone in doing this. It's reported around further 10 companies are looking at doing the same thing. As well as Germany it looks like Italy and Austria will be doing the same thing amongst others. Spain have been told by Algeria that they risk cuts to their supply if they use the gas to send to other countries. Something to do with a link to a dispute with Morocco

So the EU really putting the squeeze on Russian roubles then. I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles.

Makes you wonder how many of the sanctions announced by the "West has never been so aligned" are actually effectively implemented...or arvthey just a thin ineffective veneer so we can sit on the outside feeling noble. "

The EU and the individual countries/companies seem to have different ideas to if this work around actually breaks the sanction rules. There is the possibility that the EU will take legal action against the respective players for not following orders. I hope it does not come to that. France get around 24% of it's gas from Russia

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By *irldn OP   Couple  over a year ago

Brighton


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along

They are not alone in doing this. It's reported around further 10 companies are looking at doing the same thing. As well as Germany it looks like Italy and Austria will be doing the same thing amongst others. Spain have been told by Algeria that they risk cuts to their supply if they use the gas to send to other countries. Something to do with a link to a dispute with Morocco

So the EU really putting the squeeze on Russian roubles then. I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles.

Makes you wonder how many of the sanctions announced by the "West has never been so aligned" are actually effectively implemented...or arvthey just a thin ineffective veneer so we can sit on the outside feeling noble. All in it together until it effects them but thats always been the case with the eu all smoke and mirrors.

You mean they had sovereignty all along who,s doubting that? but eu regulations prevail over national law so not on everything."

YOU may well have understood but clearly millions didn’t with all that sovereignty bollox they spouted.

While a tiny minority have no doubt done very well out of Brexit, I am yet to find any “normal person” who can articulate a genuine benefit or improvement to their life.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along

They are not alone in doing this. It's reported around further 10 companies are looking at doing the same thing. As well as Germany it looks like Italy and Austria will be doing the same thing amongst others. Spain have been told by Algeria that they risk cuts to their supply if they use the gas to send to other countries. Something to do with a link to a dispute with Morocco

So the EU really putting the squeeze on Russian roubles then. I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles.

Makes you wonder how many of the sanctions announced by the "West has never been so aligned" are actually effectively implemented...or arvthey just a thin ineffective veneer so we can sit on the outside feeling noble. All in it together until it effects them but thats always been the case with the eu all smoke and mirrors.

You mean they had sovereignty all along who,s doubting that? but eu regulations prevail over national law so not on everything.

YOU may well have understood but clearly millions didn’t with all that sovereignty bollox they spouted.

While a tiny minority have no doubt done very well out of Brexit, I am yet to find any “normal person” who can articulate a genuine benefit or improvement to their life."

What’s a “normal person”?

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By *rFunBoyMan  over a year ago

Longridge

I'm a normal person. Mostly.

But frigging annoying anything I now source and buy in from Europe is subject to 'duty' that a few years ago, would have been the price you see, is the price you pay.

£2400 purchase from Italy is costing an extra £120 when it lands at Manchester next week.

That's just one example..

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By *mateur100Man  over a year ago

nr faversham


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along

They are not alone in doing this. It's reported around further 10 companies are looking at doing the same thing. As well as Germany it looks like Italy and Austria will be doing the same thing amongst others. Spain have been told by Algeria that they risk cuts to their supply if they use the gas to send to other countries. Something to do with a link to a dispute with Morocco

So the EU really putting the squeeze on Russian roubles then. I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles.

Makes you wonder how many of the sanctions announced by the "West has never been so aligned" are actually effectively implemented...or arvthey just a thin ineffective veneer so we can sit on the outside feeling noble. All in it together until it effects them but thats always been the case with the eu all smoke and mirrors.

You mean they had sovereignty all along who,s doubting that? but eu regulations prevail over national law so not on everything.

YOU may well have understood but clearly millions didn’t with all that sovereignty bollox they spouted.

While a tiny minority have no doubt done very well out of Brexit, I am yet to find any “normal person” who can articulate a genuine benefit or improvement to their life.

What’s a “normal person”? "

Clearly not anyone who disagrees

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By *mateur100Man  over a year ago

nr faversham


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along

They are not alone in doing this. It's reported around further 10 companies are looking at doing the same thing. As well as Germany it looks like Italy and Austria will be doing the same thing amongst others. Spain have been told by Algeria that they risk cuts to their supply if they use the gas to send to other countries. Something to do with a link to a dispute with Morocco

So the EU really putting the squeeze on Russian roubles then. I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles.

Makes you wonder how many of the sanctions announced by the "West has never been so aligned" are actually effectively implemented...or arvthey just a thin ineffective veneer so we can sit on the outside feeling noble. All in it together until it effects them but thats always been the case with the eu all smoke and mirrors.

You mean they had sovereignty all along who,s doubting that? but eu regulations prevail over national law so not on everything.

YOU may well have understood but clearly millions didn’t with all that sovereignty bollox they spouted.

While a tiny minority have no doubt done very well out of Brexit, I am yet to find any “normal person” who can articulate a genuine benefit or improvement to their life."

There doesn't have to be a benefit or improvement. A simple as you were does the job

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By *rFunBoyMan  over a year ago

Longridge

But, getting back to the original comment..

Our government's are doing little to prepare us, so, it's either prep yourself or go without.

There is legislation coming live in July over car charging times set by default in car chargers as they've probably just realised that due to exponential sales in EVs. There should also legislation over output power of boilers at the factory - set to 20% output with instructions how to increase if absolutely necessary.

Grid demand is exploding, simply putting more pressure on Gas supply as we won't accept black-outs.

The electricity those shiny new cars consume is still based on 45-65% Gas generated input. You might be on Green Only electricity tariffs but the cables running into house are on the same supply networks as Gas Turbines and thus, creating demand.

If you want to get your head around how reliant this country is on gas. Search "UK Live energy mix", then on top of that, there is Industries and our humble boilers consuming it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas.

Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership.

That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

Except German companies are now circumnavigating the rules and financing the war to avoid hardship. EU? Making up as they go along

They are not alone in doing this. It's reported around further 10 companies are looking at doing the same thing. As well as Germany it looks like Italy and Austria will be doing the same thing amongst others. Spain have been told by Algeria that they risk cuts to their supply if they use the gas to send to other countries. Something to do with a link to a dispute with Morocco

So the EU really putting the squeeze on Russian roubles then. I think France are in the gang now paying in roubles.

Makes you wonder how many of the sanctions announced by the "West has never been so aligned" are actually effectively implemented...or arvthey just a thin ineffective veneer so we can sit on the outside feeling noble. All in it together until it effects them but thats always been the case with the eu all smoke and mirrors.

You mean they had sovereignty all along who,s doubting that? but eu regulations prevail over national law so not on everything.

YOU may well have understood but clearly millions didn’t with all that sovereignty bollox they spouted.

While a tiny minority have no doubt done very well out of Brexit, I am yet to find any “normal person” who can articulate a genuine benefit or improvement to their life.

There doesn't have to be a benefit or improvement. A simple as you were does the job"

It is far from ‘as you were ‘

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By *irtyold manMan  over a year ago

barnsley

We have rivers that flood every year why dont we dam them and make hydro electricity

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